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Jul 9, 2023 12:19 AM
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Just finished the last EP and I felt disappointed, Feel like the story is too short and rushed. Ending is not satisfying at all. Doesn’t feel like a Gundam anime at all, been waiting for long time for a true Gundam anime. Really really disappointed with this series, had high hope when it’s announced and it ended like this. So sad 
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Jul 9, 2023 1:00 AM
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i Like mecha and this show is prety good
Jul 9, 2023 1:19 AM
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Azriel-chan said:
i Like mecha and this show is prety good
Nah feels so boring, there is so much to explore in the story, they just touch the surface of the situation on Earth, This does not feel Gundam, it should be more at stake. The end is just bad, First, the random silent zero came out and another big weapon comes out with no hint and its destroyed in 5 min. feels so rushed 
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Jul 9, 2023 1:32 AM
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Still waiting for Hathaway Flash Part 2. :(

I want more late UC content such as Crossbone~

EDIT: Regarding waiting a long time for a true Gundam anime, Build Divers Re:Rise and Hathaway Flash aired 2 years ago.

You only need to watch Build Divers before starting Build Divers Re:Rise.

You only need to watch the main UC Gundam anime until Char Counterattack to watch Hathaway Flash.

Hopes this helps~
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Jul 9, 2023 1:36 AM
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NewestPersonHere said:
Still waiting for Hathaway Flash Part 2. :(

I want more late UC content such as Crossbone~


me too, I need the real Gundam with war and people dying. And a long good story, not like this one.
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Jul 9, 2023 1:54 AM
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i loved this show, but towards the end it definitly felt rushed and the ending was definitly lackluster in comparison to other moments in the season, but overall i was very satified for my first and very likely only gundarm
Jul 9, 2023 2:30 AM
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i loved this show, but towards the end it definitly felt rushed and the ending was definitly lackluster in comparison to other moments in the season, but overall i was very satified for my first and very likely only gundarm

I feel like for people that didn’t watch any Gundam before, it is a ok show, but for people that watches Gundam, this show does not feel “gundam” at all.
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Jul 9, 2023 4:02 AM
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I agree, the hype was so huge after that epic season 1 finale. I thought we were gonna get more seasons because they kept introducing new factions and subplots only to drop most of it to rush to the ending.

Even Miorine, the second main fucking character, didn't get a proper resolution with her father.

Not to mention Elan 5's arc falling off because they didn't have time for another Pharact scene, and Guel and Lauda's conflict being so underdeveloped and forced.

It's a damn shame because I find it hard to believe this was the original vision for the ending. I was sure "happy birthday" was gonna come back one last time and Eri or Suletta were going to be reborn in some form.

Jul 9, 2023 4:49 AM
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Yeah, it was awful but Kyoukai Senki season 2 is on the horizon and I just finished GaoGaiGar so the good has definitely outweighed the bad.
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Jul 9, 2023 4:53 AM

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I agree, the hype was so huge after that epic season 1 finale. I thought we were gonna get more seasons because they kept introducing new factions and subplots only to drop most of it to rush to the ending.

Even Miorine, the second main fucking character, didn't get a proper resolution with her father.

Not to mention Elan 5's arc falling off because they didn't have time for another Pharact scene, and Guel and Lauda's conflict being so underdeveloped and forced.

It's a damn shame because I find it hard to believe this was the original vision for the ending. I was sure "happy birthday" was gonna come back one last time and Eri or Suletta were going to be reborn in some form.
Lol, even her VA was expecting this and when she speculated about their wedding scene, I was like "damn, woman, are you spoiling the ending?!". She also didn't mention Suletta by her name, only saying holder (that was a few episodes before episode 5, so there was no point in keeping us intrigued), so they probably even planned a more difficult ending than the boring "everyone is happy".
Jul 9, 2023 4:56 AM

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voltwaffle said:
Yeah, it was awful but Kyoukai Senki season 2 is on the horizon and I just finished GaoGaiGar so the good has definitely outweighed the bad.
Do they really want to continue this? I don't know how popular it is in Japan, but the west seems to be disappointed with the political part of the show.
Jul 9, 2023 5:28 AM

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RobertBobert said:
ForeverTraitor said:
I agree, the hype was so huge after that epic season 1 finale. I thought we were gonna get more seasons because they kept introducing new factions and subplots only to drop most of it to rush to the ending.

Even Miorine, the second main fucking character, didn't get a proper resolution with her father.

Not to mention Elan 5's arc falling off because they didn't have time for another Pharact scene, and Guel and Lauda's conflict being so underdeveloped and forced.

It's a damn shame because I find it hard to believe this was the original vision for the ending. I was sure "happy birthday" was gonna come back one last time and Eri or Suletta were going to be reborn in some form.
Lol, even her VA was expecting this and when she speculated about their wedding scene, I was like "damn, woman, are you spoiling the ending?!". She also didn't mention Suletta by her name, only saying holder (that was a few episodes before episode 5, so there was no point in keeping us intrigued), so they probably even planned a more difficult ending than the boring "everyone is happy".

A happy ending could have worked if it was earned, but not a single named character dies in the last couple of episodes. Even the woman who uses her body to shield Miorine from gunfire gets to live.

I thought the show was building to Prospera finally letting Eri go, but nope, she gets to live on as a fucking keyring apparently. It feels completely disjointed from the tone the prologue and season 1 were setting.

Jul 9, 2023 5:57 AM

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ForeverTraitor said:
RobertBobert said:
Lol, even her VA was expecting this and when she speculated about their wedding scene, I was like "damn, woman, are you spoiling the ending?!". She also didn't mention Suletta by her name, only saying holder (that was a few episodes before episode 5, so there was no point in keeping us intrigued), so they probably even planned a more difficult ending than the boring "everyone is happy".

A happy ending could have worked if it was earned, but not a single named character dies in the last couple of episodes. Even the woman who uses her body to shield Miorine from gunfire gets to live.

I thought the show was building to Prospera finally letting Eri go, but nope, she gets to live on as a fucking keyring apparently. It feels completely disjointed from the tone the prologue and season 1 were setting.
Doesn't match the tone of the prologue and the first season? Lol, it generally ignores all topics and messages from the first 12 episodes and the prologue. Forgiveness of any violence, people who killed both a bunch of extras and important characters (peaceful people from the Guel arc, Suletta's father and his colleagues, Elan 4) receive a complete forgiveness, Miorine, instead of a final fight with the engagement, completely accepts this and we are even told that forced the engagement is actually a very good thing (also note that they literally made Suletta win her as a trophy against a man who didn't want to marry Miorina, causing the latter to literally become a trophy wife for the holder in the end), the idea of witches only makes sense in one arc, the Gundam curse serves as a trite plot tool to kill a couple of sacrificial lambs and give Suletta a formal life threat in the finale, etc. Finally, the Guel arc ends with a brief mention in the epilogue.  In fact, nothing from the first season and the prologue, other than the very superficial relationship between the two girls, made any sense. Even episode 12 just turned out to be a cheap cliffhanger to keep people interested in the show and the second season.

They had so many subplots that they set up but ended up throwing out that it really makes me wonder who interfered with the production of the show and why. Because I just can't or don't want to believe that it was all fake Chekhov guns to sell us a cheap rip-off of Utena and Izetta the Last Witch.
Jul 9, 2023 8:56 AM
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GoshaX said:
TheCupSlammer said:
i loved this show, but towards the end it definitly felt rushed and the ending was definitly lackluster in comparison to other moments in the season, but overall i was very satified for my first and very likely only gundarm

I feel like for people that didn’t watch any Gundam before, it is a ok show, but for people that watches Gundam, this show does not feel “gundam” at all.

I feel like with this, you have all the pieces you need. There are some shows that are for the hardcore fans and there are some shows to introduce the IP to new people and hopefully grow the fan base. This just happens to be the latter. Hopefully, Gundam can gain some new fans with this without losing you and too many others before they put out something that feels "more Gundam" for you and helps the new fans they got with this grow in their Gundam journey. That's all. It was a pretty well made show, it just happened not to be designed for those with a more advanced Gundam pallet. I hope you enjoy whatever they put out next.
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let's be real, if you remove all the Yuri elements from this show it will have no legs to stand on, and would be rated way below 8/10 

like try imagining if Suletta was a dude, This show would be hated by all even if everything happened exactly the way it did 

matter of fact Suletta (if she was a dude) would be even be called a simp just for trying to get back together with Miorine after the latter dumbed her, but because she is a girl on a yuri path it's all worth an 8 out of 10 
Jul 9, 2023 2:59 PM

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RobertBobert said:
voltwaffle said:
Yeah, it was awful but Kyoukai Senki season 2 is on the horizon and I just finished GaoGaiGar so the good has definitely outweighed the bad.
Do they really want to continue this? I don't know how popular it is in Japan, but the west seems to be disappointed with the political part of the show.

Continue WfM? I have no idea and I honestly don't care. No offense to you, obviously.

Kyoukai Senki already showed a teaser trailer and some kit mockups so that's coming sooner rather than later.
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Jul 9, 2023 3:20 PM
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This show could’ve been amazing, but sadly Sunrise dropped the ball completely.
Jul 9, 2023 11:35 PM

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voltwaffle said:
RobertBobert said:
Do they really want to continue this? I don't know how popular it is in Japan, but the west seems to be disappointed with the political part of the show.

Continue WfM? I have no idea and I honestly don't care. No offense to you, obviously.

Kyoukai Senki already showed a teaser trailer and some kit mockups so that's coming sooner rather than later.
Why do you think I'm talking about a witch? I was talking specifically about KS as it felt like the show was controversially received.
Jul 9, 2023 11:39 PM

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LucenProject said:
GoshaX said:

I feel like for people that didn’t watch any Gundam before, it is a ok show, but for people that watches Gundam, this show does not feel  “gundam” at all.

I feel like with this, you have all the pieces you need. There are some shows that are for the hardcore fans and there are some shows to introduce the IP to new people and hopefully grow the fan base. This just happens to be the latter. Hopefully, Gundam can gain some new fans with this without losing you and too many others before they put out something that feels "more Gundam" for you and helps the new fans they got with this grow in their Gundam journey. That's all. It was a pretty well made show, it just happened not to be designed for those with a more advanced Gundam pallet. I hope you enjoy whatever they put out next.
You can't attract new fans to a brand with a show that ignores that brand's ideas and aesthetics, not only creating a false impression of it, but also attracting people who won't consume that franchise outside of that show. I doubt there will be any interest in continuing a franchise that is literally built around heroic male characters for the show's emphasis on male characters and not turning it into a bishoujo bait I doubt people who were literally pissed off. As a token yuri and token female show, G-Witch's audience was mostly either people who were only interested in that type of show, or who watched it out of curiosity to see how it would end up as an unusual show for the franchise.
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RobertBobert said:
voltwaffle said:

Continue WfM? I have no idea and I honestly don't care. No offense to you, obviously.

Kyoukai Senki already showed a teaser trailer and some kit mockups so that's coming sooner rather than later.
Why do you think I'm talking about a witch? I was talking specifically about KS as it felt like the show was controversially received.

Well, you just said 'this' and we're in a Witch from Mercury thread 🤷‍♂️

And as long as the kits sell, I don't think Bandai cares if some of the aspects of the show weren't well received
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Jul 9, 2023 11:53 PM

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voltwaffle said:
RobertBobert said:
Why do you think I'm talking about a witch? I was talking specifically about KS as it felt like the show was controversially received.

Well, you just said 'this' and we're in a Witch from Mercury thread 🤷‍♂️

And as long as the kits sell, I don't think Bandai cares if some of the aspects of the show weren't well received
In response to your mention of a second season for another show that did have political controversy unlike G-Witch. But other than that, yeah, I've heard Bandai in the past consider shows to be successes or failures regardless of the quality, but only because of kits sales. Ironic for a franchise that was created in an attempt to show that mecha is not just an anime to sell toys.
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let's be real, if you remove all the Yuri elements from this show it will have no legs to stand on, and would be rated way below 8/10 

like try imagining if Suletta was a dude, This show would be hated by all even if everything happened exactly the way it did 

matter of fact Suletta (if she was a dude) would be even be called a simp just for trying to get back together with Miorine after the latter dumbed her, but because she is a girl on a yuri path it's all worth an 8 out of 10 
if this show had a guy as an MC and love interest watch this show fall into the 6s. The show for the part is blasphemy to the gundam franchise yeah managed to get an 8 rating because mods won't dare criticize a show with a yuri couple.

voltwaffle said:
RobertBobert said:
Why do you think I'm talking about a witch? I was talking specifically about KS as it felt like the show was controversially received.

Well, you just said 'this' and we're in a Witch from Mercury thread 🤷‍♂️

And as long as the kits sell, I don't think Bandai cares if some of the aspects of the show weren't well received
The kits other than the aerials didn't sell. I see so many on shelves for new kits. Also the blu ray sales weren't that high vs the past series and probably bought by the same lonely men that purchased lycoris, bocchi, magi revolution, (insert yuri show here)
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DEMSpirit said:
Raptors0verlord said:
let's be real, if you remove all the Yuri elements from this show it will have no legs to stand on, and would be rated way below 8/10 

like try imagining if Suletta was a dude, This show would be hated by all even if everything happened exactly the way it did 

matter of fact Suletta (if she was a dude) would be even be called a simp just for trying to get back together with Miorine after the latter dumbed her, but because she is a girl on a yuri path it's all worth an 8 out of 10 
if this show had a guy as an MC and love interest watch this show fall into the 6s. The show for the part is blasphemy to the gundam franchise yeah managed to get an 8 rating because mods won't dare criticize a show with a yuri couple.

voltwaffle said:

Well, you just said 'this' and we're in a Witch from Mercury thread 🤷‍♂️

And as long as the kits sell, I don't think Bandai cares if some of the aspects of the show weren't well received
The kits other than the aerials didn't sell. I see so many on shelves for new kits. Also the blu ray sales weren't that high vs the past series and probably bought by the same lonely men that purchased lycoris, bocchi, magi revolution, (insert yuri show here)

We were talking about Kyoukai Senki, not Witch From Mercury.
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DEMSpirit said:
Raptors0verlord said:
let's be real, if you remove all the Yuri elements from this show it will have no legs to stand on, and would be rated way below 8/10 

like try imagining if Suletta was a dude, This show would be hated by all even if everything happened exactly the way it did 

matter of fact Suletta (if she was a dude) would be even be called a simp just for trying to get back together with Miorine after the latter dumbed her, but because she is a girl on a yuri path it's all worth an 8 out of 10 
if this show had a guy as an MC and love interest watch this show fall into the 6s. The show for the part is blasphemy to the gundam franchise yeah managed to get an 8 rating because mods won't dare criticize a show with a yuri couple.

voltwaffle said:

Well, you just said 'this' and we're in a Witch from Mercury thread 🤷‍♂️

And as long as the kits sell, I don't think Bandai cares if some of the aspects of the show weren't well received
The kits other than the aerials didn't sell. I see so many on shelves for new kits. Also the blu ray sales weren't that high vs the past series and probably bought by the same lonely men that purchased lycoris, bocchi, magi revolution, (insert yuri show here)
Speaking of discs sales, what were they like? I am embarrassed that now the ratings of the show on MAL are even lower than those of IBO. As for the male character, I agree, Suletta goes much further in such things than any Jesus Yamato.
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RobertBobert said:
DEMSpirit said:
if this show had a guy as an MC and love interest watch this show fall into the 6s. The show for the part is blasphemy to the gundam franchise yeah managed to get an 8 rating because mods won't dare criticize a show with a yuri couple.

The kits other than the aerials didn't sell. I see so many on shelves for new kits. Also the blu ray sales weren't that high vs the past series and probably bought by the same lonely men that purchased lycoris, bocchi, magi revolution, (insert yuri show here)
Speaking of discs sales, what were they like? I am embarrassed that now the ratings of the show on MAL are even lower than those of IBO. As for the male character, I agree, Suletta goes much further in such things than any Jesus Yamato.
I think sales were kind of middling. Not an absolute disaster like Chainsaw Man, but the buzz was taken away by Bocchi during S1 and Oshi no Ko during S2. That said, despite the comment above, my impression is that during S1 all the kits (beyond Aerial) sold very well in Japan. All the stores I stopped by during those first 2-3 months showed most of the Mercury models out of stock. There was also a Witch of Mercury event in Shibuya that I wanted to go to but couldn't be bothered after seeing just how crowded and hard it was to get into.

I do feel after S1 the show lost momentum hard, hype died down, and the buzz for S2 just wasn't there. The big problem was the show didn't know if it wanted to appeal to mainstream audiences or hardcore Gundam fans. Mainstream audiences were turned off by all the complicated political stuff, dark tone, and lack of character relationship buildup especially with regards to the Suletta x Miorine yuri ship, while traditional Gundam fans were turned off by the yuri bait, random school setting, and happily-ever-after ending. So it ended up pleasing no one, which became apparent in S2.
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Jul 13, 2023 9:47 AM

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TCTriangle said:
RobertBobert said:
Speaking of discs sales, what were they like? I am embarrassed that now the ratings of the show on MAL are even lower than those of IBO. As for the male character, I agree, Suletta goes much further in such things than any Jesus Yamato.
I think sales were kind of middling. Not an absolute disaster like Chainsaw Man, but the buzz was taken away by Bocchi during S1 and Oshi no Ko during S2. That said, despite the comment above, my impression is that during S1 all the kits (beyond Aerial) sold very well in Japan. All the stores I stopped by during those first 2-3 months showed most of the Mercury models out of stock. There was also a Witch of Mercury event in Shibuya that I wanted to go to but couldn't be bothered after seeing just how crowded and hard it was to get into.

I do feel after S1 the show lost momentum hard, hype died down, and the buzz for S2 just wasn't there. The big problem was the show didn't know if it wanted to appeal to mainstream audiences or hardcore Gundam fans. Mainstream audiences were turned off by all the complicated political stuff, dark tone, and lack of character relationship buildup especially with regards to the Suletta x Miorine yuri ship, while traditional Gundam fans were turned off by the yuri bait, random school setting, and happily-ever-after ending. So it ended up pleasing no one, which became apparent in S2.
So, are you implying or suggesting that the second season showed a sharp decline in interest and confusion of the viewers, so Bandai turned off the switch at some point? I won't say that I didn't have questions for the first season, but the second seems to deliberately cut off any of my attempts to get involved in it and take care of the characters. Well, you know, like you get a subjectively good movie and love it despite the cons, but then the sequel just kills your hype.
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Yep. Show definitely carried by yuri. Just like all the other yuri shows that have scores over 8.00 on this site...
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This show had a promising premise but the slice of life stuff isn’t even good slice of life stuff and the gundam fights/everything else is just as lackluster. really disappointing
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RobertBobert said:
TCTriangle said:
I think sales were kind of middling. Not an absolute disaster like Chainsaw Man, but the buzz was taken away by Bocchi during S1 and Oshi no Ko during S2. That said, despite the comment above, my impression is that during S1 all the kits (beyond Aerial) sold very well in Japan. All the stores I stopped by during those first 2-3 months showed most of the Mercury models out of stock. There was also a Witch of Mercury event in Shibuya that I wanted to go to but couldn't be bothered after seeing just how crowded and hard it was to get into.

I do feel after S1 the show lost momentum hard, hype died down, and the buzz for S2 just wasn't there. The big problem was the show didn't know if it wanted to appeal to mainstream audiences or hardcore Gundam fans. Mainstream audiences were turned off by all the complicated political stuff, dark tone, and lack of character relationship buildup especially with regards to the Suletta x Miorine yuri ship, while traditional Gundam fans were turned off by the yuri bait, random school setting, and happily-ever-after ending. So it ended up pleasing no one, which became apparent in S2.
So, are you implying or suggesting that the second season showed a sharp decline in interest and confusion of the viewers, so Bandai turned off the switch at some point? I won't say that I didn't have questions for the first season, but the second seems to deliberately cut off any of my attempts to get involved in it and take care of the characters. Well, you know, like you get a subjectively good movie and love it despite the cons, but then the sequel just kills your hype.
Not exactly, I meant that most of S1 buildup was good enough to drive hype, which in turn sold the kits. But in S2 it became quickly apparent that the show didn't know what it wanted to be or who it wanted to appeal to, which killed a lot of the hype. I think S2 would have been rushed regardless of the fan response, because for some reason they only greenlit for 2 cours. I do think the pacing should have been more balanced through the 2 cours though - I personally would have cut some of the stuff in S1 and stopped it at the twist about Suletta/Ericht/Aerial as opposed to the attack on the president. Then spent more time in S2 building up Miorine's and Suletta's respective conflicts and relationship with each other.
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So, are you implying or suggesting that the second season showed a sharp decline in interest and confusion of the viewers, so Bandai turned off the switch at some point? I won't say that I didn't have questions for the first season, but the second seems to deliberately cut off any of my attempts to get involved in it and take care of the characters. Well, you know, like you get a subjectively good movie and love it despite the cons, but then the sequel just kills your hype.
Not exactly, I meant that most of S1 buildup was good enough to drive hype, which in turn sold the kits. But in S2 it became quickly apparent that the show didn't know what it wanted to be or who it wanted to appeal to, which killed a lot of the hype. I think S2 would have been rushed regardless of the fan response, because for some reason they only greenlit for 2 cours. I do think the pacing should have been more balanced through the 2 cours though - I personally would have cut some of the stuff in S1 and stopped it at the twist about Suletta/Ericht/Aerial as opposed to the attack on the president. Then spent more time in S2 building up Miorine's and Suletta's respective conflicts and relationship with each other.
Well, purely taste issues aside, my two main gripes are the unreasonably thin writing of yuri, despite the premise that quite allowed for a full-blown lesbian romance and a host of frustrating conflict resolutions for the show. Many of which have been completely forgotten. They really seemed to be trying to please everyone, but in the end they fell off a cliff, not liking anyone (especially after the English gundam info actively provoked conflicts to create twitter "hype" and thereby intimidated people even more). Well, except for the shippers who still seem to love the show just for the yuri.
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I enjoyed most Gundam series I watched quite a lot, with IBO being one of my favourite animes of all times, but this... this was just sad (as in bad). Super disappointing plot and shallow characters, trying to be fun and failing miserably, I guess my expectations were too high after the genius Orphans we got previously. Sad 6/10 is all I can give, mostly for the interesting setting and location design (also pretty limited).
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I've always been interested in gundam, but this was the show that drew me in. I do agree the whole thing feels kinda shallow/rushed and I too want more out of it. I'm just sad that it took a show like this to get me interested in something I previously didn't get into even if I was interested because it felt like being a girl stepping into a crusty boys club nerd store. The other reason I watched the show is that I was just fresh out of re-watching an old favourite (Mai-HiME) that was also made by Sunrise, which was also kind of rushed and shallow, I'll admit that. Maybe Sunrise just sucks at writing women? I dunno. 🤷‍♂️
The school setting was kinda weird tbh and possibly should have been a military academy, but that's probably since Gundam strikes me as more of a Military and political intrigue show (which is still interesting ffs I love GiTS) but I tend to be more interested in people and ideas and less about power creep.
This show was a good try. I hope Sunrise doesn't get discouraged from trying this again in the future. There were still good messages in this series to hear.
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if half of gundam's own fanbase it shitting on this show and the sales sold bad, it goes to show which people we need to kick out of the gundam fandom. I noticed the only people giving this show good reviews just mass review bomb shows like Mushoku Tensei, Shield Hero, Tokyo revengers, every ecchi harem in.

This show ruined north american gunpla stores and now they are stuck with tons of witch from mercury sets that will not move. Every gunpla store is now struggling to offload wfm kits at a loss, cuz the show was a massive failure

WFM RUINED GUNDAM. It is driving local gunpla stores to bankruptcy. They had their chance with guel but just blew it.

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The most disappointing thing about this anime is that they throw away the initial idea revolving around political marriage and turned it into genuine romance.
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Raptors0verlord said:
let's be real, if you remove all the Yuri elements from this show it will have no legs to stand on, and would be rated way below 8/10 

like try imagining if Suletta was a dude, This show would be hated by all even if everything happened exactly the way it did 

matter of fact Suletta (if she was a dude) would be even be called a simp just for trying to get back together with Miorine after the latter dumbed her, but because she is a girl on a yuri path it's all worth an 8 out of 10 


I don't think that's true, it does have a story and development aside from the romance.

Suletta in general is a very dependent and clinging person, who panics if she isn't told what to do most times, and although I can understand why she is like that, I didn't like her that much over the majority part of the anime. Later she got some more will of her own tho.

Also don't forget these are kids. Even she was a guy, I wouldn't call her a simp really, because again, they are kids.
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let's be real, if you remove all the Yuri elements from this show it will have no legs to stand on, and would be rated way below 8/10 

like try imagining if Suletta was a dude, This show would be hated by all even if everything happened exactly the way it did 

matter of fact Suletta (if she was a dude) would be even be called a simp just for trying to get back together with Miorine after the latter dumbed her, but because she is a girl on a yuri path it's all worth an 8 out of 10 


I don't think that's true, it does have a story and development aside from the romance.

Suletta in general is a very dependent person, who panics if she isn't told what to do most times, and although I can understand why she is like that, I didn't like her that much over the majority part of the anime. Later she got some backbone of her own tho.

Also don't forget these are kids. Even she was a guy, I wouldn't call her a simp really, because again, they are kids.

so because you didn't see it as "Simping" you would think everyone would have thought the same, I mean look at Tower of God  where the MC was called a simp simply for caring too much for his "Sister figure" 

I even had the displeaser of talking to supposed fans outside of MAL with the idea that they wouldn't like the anime or care about it if the story was about a boy who was going to marry a girl in the end 

and they couldn't deny it at all, they flat out told me they wouldn't like it or care about it if it was the case 
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I don't think that's true, it does have a story and development aside from the romance.

Suletta in general is a very dependent person, who panics if she isn't told what to do most times, and although I can understand why she is like that, I didn't like her that much over the majority part of the anime. Later she got some backbone of her own tho.

Also don't forget these are kids. Even she was a guy, I wouldn't call her a simp really, because again, they are kids.

so because you didn't see it as "Simping" you would think everyone would have thought the same, I mean look at Tower of God  where the MC was called a simp simply for caring too much for his "Sister figure" 

I even had the displeaser of talking to supposed fans outside of MAL with the idea that they wouldn't like the anime or care about it if the story was about a boy who was going to marry a girl in the end 

and they couldn't deny it at all, they flat out told me they wouldn't like it or care about it if it was the case 


I don't think everyone else would thought the same, but tbh I often don't care about the opinion of the majority and don't see a good reason to bring it up. So I don't see a reason to start with "if she was a dude people would hate it", yeah anime fans are often unreasonable and don't look deep enough, what else is new lol.
I mean I can understand your reasoning, but that people are calling a kid a simp is dumb per se.
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I don't think that's true, it does have a story and development aside from the romance.

Suletta in general is a very dependent person, who panics if she isn't told what to do most times, and although I can understand why she is like that, I didn't like her that much over the majority part of the anime. Later she got some backbone of her own tho.

Also don't forget these are kids. Even she was a guy, I wouldn't call her a simp really, because again, they are kids.

so because you didn't see it as "Simping" you would think everyone would have thought the same, I mean look at Tower of God  where the MC was called a simp simply for caring too much for his "Sister figure" 

I even had the displeaser of talking to supposed fans outside of MAL with the idea that they wouldn't like the anime or care about it if the story was about a boy who was going to marry a girl in the end 

and they couldn't deny it at all, they flat out told me they wouldn't like it or care about it if it was the case 
Thank god this show flopped, and most of the gundam fandom boycotted the kits. Anitube, ANN, reddit can shill this as much as they want. Sunrise has premanently ended this universe. It is finished. It is dead.

This show tells us everything wrong with anime community. ANN, reddit, Anitube have been caught red handed trying to manipulated polls, hide shows that are considered harems, ecchis, male cast. No matter how much they bitch on the misogyny, toxic masculinity, these shows are always going to come out and be successful
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premanently ended this universe

Small reminder that Vanadis Heart Is still a thing
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Small reminder that Vanadis Heart Is still a thing


Read the first 3 chapters today. It was pretty enjoyable, really good art. Lot of it was recap from the anime but I’ll stick with it and see where it goes.

I have only read the first one. and yeah, it was mostly a Recap. I should read the rest lmao
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So, are you implying or suggesting that the second season showed a sharp decline in interest and confusion of the viewers, so Bandai turned off the switch at some point? I won't say that I didn't have questions for the first season, but the second seems to deliberately cut off any of my attempts to get involved in it and take care of the characters. Well, you know, like you get a subjectively good movie and love it despite the cons, but then the sequel just kills your hype.
Not exactly, I meant that most of S1 buildup was good enough to drive hype, which in turn sold the kits. But in S2 it became quickly apparent that the show didn't know what it wanted to be or who it wanted to appeal to, which killed a lot of the hype. I think S2 would have been rushed regardless of the fan response, because for some reason they only greenlit for 2 cours. I do think the pacing should have been more balanced through the 2 cours though - I personally would have cut some of the stuff in S1 and stopped it at the twist about Suletta/Ericht/Aerial as opposed to the attack on the president. Then spent more time in S2 building up Miorine's and Suletta's respective conflicts and relationship with each other.
Well, purely taste issues aside, my two main gripes are the unreasonably thin writing of yuri, despite the premise that quite allowed for a full-blown lesbian romance and a host of frustrating conflict resolutions for the show. Many of which have been completely forgotten. They really seemed to be trying to please everyone, but in the end they fell off a cliff, not liking anyone (especially after the English gundam info actively provoked conflicts to create twitter "hype" and thereby intimidated people even more). Well, except for the shippers who still seem to love the show just for the yuri.
@RobertBobert this was bound to crash and burn no matter no matter how many people they banned on the gundam forums.

Gundam is legit the smash bros of the anime community. Almost completely male dominated. The toys are cheap getting a lot of young boys in it. Basically the crowd thar swears non stop playing call of duty. It is old enough to have a lot of universal century purists that attack anyone that dares compare anything with tomino's work. Evangelion and 86 have been regularly attacked by gundam fanboys. Au bashing has been going on for decades. It was so toxic they celebrated morosawa to burn in hell.

Newcomers were truly blind into the cancer they were getting into called gundam fandom. They expected to be welcome in with open arms only into go into a nest bed of narcissism.
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@RobertBobert this was bound to crash and burn no matter no matter how many people they banned on the gundam forums.

Gundam is legit the smash bros of the anime community. Almost completely male dominated. The toys are cheap getting a lot of young boys in it. Basically the crowd thar swears non stop playing call of duty. It is old enough to have a lot of universal century purists that attack anyone that dares compare anything with tomino's work. Evangelion and 86 have been regularly attacked by gundam fanboys. Au bashing has been going on for decades. It was so toxic they celebrated morosawa to burn in hell.

Newcomers were truly blind into the cancer they were getting into called gundam fandom. They expected to be welcome in with open arms only into go into a nest bed of narcissism.
@SpiderMiles3523 I don't know, man. Judging by recent games, manga and now anime, Bamko is very keen to fill this with female protagonists. They seem to think that this is somehow supporting their female audience, but they don't realize that female audiences are attracted to this franchise precisely because of the male characters. It's like if you tried to make a male protagonist in Pretty Cure, expecting it to strengthen your male fanbase.
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@SpiderMiles3523 I don't know, man. Judging by recent games, manga and now anime, Bamko is very keen to fill this with female protagonists. They seem to think that this is somehow supporting their female audience, but they don't realize that female audiences are attracted to this franchise precisely because of the male characters. It's like if you tried to make a male protagonist in Pretty Cure, expecting it to strengthen your male fanbase.
@RobertBobert their slate is clean. That is besides the point. The gundam fandom would be a lot better if ibo fans left and stop coping on their flop. Sunrise isn't going to kill seed for ibo. Yet ibo fans police gundam forums and bash seed out of spite
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@RobertBobert their slate is clean. That is besides the point. The gundam fandom would be a lot better if ibo fans left and stop coping on their flop. Sunrise isn't going to kill seed for ibo. Yet ibo fans police gundam forums and bash seed out of spite
@SpiderMiles3523 But what do Orphan and Seed fans have to do with assessing the quality of G-Witch?
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@SpiderMiles3523 But what do Orphan and Seed fans have to do with assessing the quality of G-Witch?
@RobertBobert I am going to be blunt. I recommend you get off the gundam groups completely. Personally I am checking out of this franchise after seed freedom.
Tired of daily spite posts from toxic ibo fans.

Ibo has been dead for like 6 years but the fans still won't shut about it being better than all aus. Doesn't matter how many people get banned on gundam forums. Plastic crack will get people addicted to the franchise. So wfm fans were entering a world of hate. Since they r oblivious au bashing has been going on for decades.
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@RobertBobert I am going to be blunt. I recommend you get off the gundam groups completely. Personally I am checking out of this franchise after seed freedom.
Tired of daily spite posts from toxic ibo fans.

Ibo has been dead for like 6 years but the fans still won't shut about it being better than all aus. Doesn't matter how many people get banned on gundam forums. Plastic crack will get people addicted to the franchise. So wfm fans were entering a world of hate. Since they r oblivious au bashing has been going on for decades.
@SpiderMiles3523 Well, I really like UC and don't like G-Witch, but I don't have a problem with AU. I even wanted to watch G Gundam soon because of the anniversary.
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let's be real, if you remove all the Yuri elements from this show it will have no legs to stand on, and would be rated way below 8/10 

like try imagining if Suletta was a dude, This show would be hated by all even if everything happened exactly the way it did 

matter of fact Suletta (if she was a dude) would be even be called a simp just for trying to get back together with Miorine after the latter dumbed her, but because she is a girl on a yuri path it's all worth an 8 out of 10 
@Raptors0verlord tragic state of the anime community. Just do what wfm did and the journalists and anitube won't come after you and push you to be the best. The whole gundam fandom lynched the show but they all got banned to the depths of 4chan. Reminder to keep your day job cuz wfm is the future of anime community.
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Season 1 raised the bar very high for me.
Season 2 took off the bar and bashed me over the head with it.

"Wasted potential", are the only words that come to mind.

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