Myne's family

Feb 17, 2023 12:27 AM

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She can interact with them with strict restrictions. She is not allowed to address them as their family like calling them "mom" and "dad" and overall acknowledge them as their actual family, because she is officially a noble now and truth must be kept secret.

PiromyslFeb 17, 2023 5:52 AM

Feb 17, 2023 12:35 AM

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Piromysl said:
She can interact with them. She is not allowed to address them as their family like calling them "mom" and "dad", because she is officially a noble now.

Not sure how I feel about that. Literally cutting the bonds you made with your born-in family, even though I guess Myne isn't "really" attached to them.

Feb 17, 2023 1:08 AM

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Omnime said:

Piromysl said:
She can interact with them. She is not allowed to address them as their family like calling them "mom" and "dad", because she is officially a noble now.

Not sure how I feel about that. Literally cutting the bonds you made with your born-in family, even though I guess Myne isn't "really" attached to them.

That's for her own safety, because due to her abundant mana she will be hunted by those who actually want to use her as a tool and nobody would dare to kidnap a noble, while nobody would care about commoner besides her family. Also, there is a huge risk, that her biological family might be taken hostage in order to reach her. So her past has to be concealed and Sylvester adopted her as his daughter.
But

Obviously, she cares about her biological family and loves them very much, so she accepted this offer with heavy heart.

PiromyslFeb 17, 2023 5:53 AM

Feb 17, 2023 2:58 AM

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Omnime said:
Is it just me or only her born-into family truly cares for her? And then

and everyone else including Ferdinand treats her as if she's an object to be of use. Not in the sexual way that you usually say that word, but as something that can help the kingdom and for people to "use" her. Not sure if it was on purpose but I really disliked this about the anime.

It is not because of her love for books, it is because of her incredible magical power, and it was for her own protection, necessity rather than her personal desire, she hated the fact that she had to leave her family, but everyone saw the need for it and agreed.

Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Feb 17, 2023 5:18 AM

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Exactly as said up.

She regret the fact that she is not anymore allowed to call her “born in family” Family again. She agreed to become a Noble for the shake of protect them too.

And she is allow to see and speak with them for a while that equals,

>Quotes from AoB <

There is again! The ultimate technique: "It's all his fault, not mine!"
Goddess, High Bishop, you sure are popular!

まんがきけん　　　　　むがく -> Manga wa kikenjyanai, kedo mugaku desu.
漫画は危険じゃない、けど無学です。 -> Manga isn't dangerous, but ignorance it is.

Benno frowned as I finished listing off all the reasons why I didn't want to give the books leather covers.

Feb 21, 2023 3:35 PM

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I have to say I can't believe she can't call her family, her family anymore. Is a big minus point of this series.

Feb 26, 2023 7:43 PM

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Man, she is a Hidden/Silent Room expert at this point, and hidden like that she can do whatever she wants to show affect to her family.

But of course she was absurdly careless in the second/third season and it was a miracle that her family was not killed nor kidnaped in order to control/harm her.

Now she should not be free as she was.

Anyway, the most important is that the author, the God of the story, do not want the "family plot" anymore. For me it kills a lot of my interest in this series.

Season 3 could be the last season without problems to me.

Jul 14, 2023 3:10 AM

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Omnime said:

Piromysl said:
She can interact with them. She is not allowed to address them as their family like calling them "mom" and "dad", because she is officially a noble now.

Not sure how I feel about that. Literally cutting the bonds you made with your born-in family, even though I guess Myne isn't "really" attached to them.

She is very attached to them. She didn't cut off the bonds, she still tries to stay in contact as much as the situation allows, though of course, this includes indirect methods, because of, well, the situation.

While the focus is on different things in further arcs, the "commoner" family isn't forgotten by the story.

You all need to watch Nami.

Oct 5, 2023 7:20 PM

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Well, you can say that things start going wrong after she wanted to join the church just because of the books. It seems like she just shot her own foot.

But it was explained that Book market is in noble territory. They let her to sell harmless children books. But other than that that Noble would hunt her down for threatening their monopoly in book production, especially because she is a commoner.
If she become high ranking noble, no one would object her.

Oct 5, 2023 7:30 PM

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I have to say I can't believe she can't call her family, her family anymore. Is a big minus point of this series.

@mswirjadi It's called a gap in social class. This show portray it realistically.

Also Sylvester is a Lord. By adopting Myne he's already looks like he's playing favourite in the eyes of his subject.

If he pamper Myne any further, He would lose his subject's respect. And if there's another royal family member,they would hate Myne for getting special treatment from Sylvester.

It all politics

Oct 6, 2023 7:44 AM

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@mswirjadi It's called a gap in social class. This show portray it realistically.

Also Sylvester is a Lord. By adopting Myne he's already looks like he's playing favourite in the eyes of his subject.

If he pamper Myne any further, He would lose his subject's respect. And if there's another royal family member,they would hate Myne for getting special treatment from Sylvester.

It all politics

@Flanery Hmmm, Im not familiar with politics part. Thanks!!

Oct 9, 2023 1:39 PM

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It's getting increasingly frustrating to watch. The fact that they as commoners can't do shit. Ferdinand and Sylvester seem to realise it's fucked up (at least I hope they do, as it's what caused everything), but don't seem to care to change it. It fits their purposes as well. They aren't any different from the high priest and that count. They're after exactly the same thing. In fact, maybe even worse, as Sylvester even said to have considered offing her entire family, but only didn't because she would go berserk. This entire thing seems have happened on purpose as well. Ferdinand hid himself, knowing full well what would happen. Sylvester wasn't any different, giving her a supposed protective charm, when it was actually a way to force her into adoption.

If they would show them being actually frustrated by the way things are and trying to change it, I wouldn't mind it as much, but they're not. They ain't doing shit.

I don't blame Main. She doesn't have a choice. It's fucked up, because Sylvester does have a choice (and the authority) and he chooses to do nothing and use it to his advantage. Now they have a huge mana resource and Main's business for the nobles.
Commoners can get fucked and lose their kids and societal improvements caused by commoners. It all belongs to the nobles if they so wish.
Real nice of Sylvester and Ferdinand.

Sorry, just finished watching so had to rant a bit.

Oct 12, 2023 8:12 PM

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It's getting increasingly frustrating to watch. The fact that they as commoners can't do shit. Ferdinand and Sylvester seem to realise it's fucked up (at least I hope they do, as it's what caused everything), but don't seem to care to change it. It fits their purposes as well. They aren't any different from the high priest and that count. They're after exactly the same thing. In fact, maybe even worse, as Sylvester even said to have considered offing her entire family, but only didn't because she would go berserk. This entire thing seems have happened on purpose as well. Ferdinand hid himself, knowing full well what would happen. Sylvester wasn't any different, giving her a supposed protective charm, when it was actually a way to force her into adoption.

If they would show them being actually frustrated by the way things are and trying to change it, I wouldn't mind it as much, but they're not. They ain't doing shit.

I don't blame Main. She doesn't have a choice. It's fucked up, because Sylvester does have a choice (and the authority) and he chooses to do nothing and use it to his advantage. Now they have a huge mana resource and Main's business for the nobles.
Commoners can get fucked and lose their kids and societal improvements caused by commoners. It all belongs to the nobles if they so wish.
Real nice of Sylvester and Ferdinand.

Sorry, just finished watching so had to rant a bit.

@JakkoFourEyes sadly that's how politics work, that part is portrayed very true to real world.
What really offs me is kinda cartoon-ey tone of the rest of the series, like the fact that Myne supposedly has mind of a very educated adult while behaving like a true 10yo for at least last two seasons. Put aside that she is in brat-mode for like 50% of her screen time, all the books she'd read in her previous life clearly came to waste since she can't put 2+2 together and determine that she'd crossed way to many paths of really dangerous people while being a tremendously valuable asset for whoever can get their hands on her, having knowledge of how such things usually played out in our reality. Her complete lack of any sense of self-preservation and constant giving out that she's actually isekai'd makes her character much less believable in my eyes.

I tend to believe that what the protagonist in oshi no ko said about isekai'd/tensei'd people is actually accurately represents how the authors themselves see their characters: as time passes in their "new body", mind adjusts to closer resemble such of their "new age". But with current mainstream understanding that it's not the case and you carry over your knowledge, experiences and personality into the new world, Myne's character makes very little sense.

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