Tensei shitara Ken deshita Episode 6 Discussion

Nov 5, 2022 7:31 AM

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Oh? Glad the demon unable to steal their skill. Nendo telepult for the win and ofc the power of surprise attack really matters a lot of this final battle. Feel bad for the weird looking dungeon master. But that's how you got when messing the MC!

More loot and some 'little' explanation about their new development. Thought of this episode ended up at Fran enjoying her curry reward scene. But theres a really annoying old man that suddenly appear trying to be a new burden for my cute Fran grow up. Now now....

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Nov 5, 2022 9:03 PM

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I didn't want Fran and Shisho badly injured or killed, but I did want them to lose or get beaten to the point where she realizes she has to stop charging ahead. Shisho did her a disservice by not teaching her the importance of strategic thinking.

Nov 6, 2022 3:53 AM

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Fran basically solo ed the whole dungeon lol

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Nov 6, 2022 7:56 PM

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18 days seems like an awkward cool down, more than half a month by a little

I wish Fran hadn't 'soloed' the demon, retreat and return with more of a party would've been better for teaching. Now we can expect Fran to try and face stronger monsters on her own and possibly get seriously hurt for it

Nov 7, 2022 9:04 PM

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Bastiono said:
18 days seems like an awkward cool down, more than half a month by a little

I wish Fran hadn't 'soloed' the demon, retreat and return with more of a party would've been better for teaching. Now we can expect Fran to try and face stronger monsters on her own and possibly get seriously hurt for it

the casuality gonna be on really bad territory if she retreated and regroup, the only reason why the demon didn't just straight out murder everyone in town is because she's interested with fighting fran.
even if she regroup, most of the demon attack would insta kill them (most of them struggle and took their time killing a goblin anyway) with C rank possibly the only survivor
and now the demon gonna let the DM summon all the strong goblin and other C rank gonna get busy with them, because again the demon is only interested with 1v1 with fran

she holding on with shishou probably the best outcome

Nov 7, 2022 10:05 PM

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Gel_chan said:

Bastiono said:
18 days seems like an awkward cool down, more than half a month by a little

I wish Fran hadn't 'soloed' the demon, retreat and return with more of a party would've been better for teaching. Now we can expect Fran to try and face stronger monsters on her own and possibly get seriously hurt for it

the casuality gonna be on really bad territory if she retreated and regroup, the only reason why the demon didn't just straight out murder everyone in town is because she's interested with fighting fran.
even if she regroup, most of the demon attack would insta kill them (most of them struggle and took their time killing a goblin anyway) with C rank possibly the only survivor
and now the demon gonna let the DM summon all the strong goblin and other C rank gonna get busy with them, because again the demon is only interested with 1v1 with fran

she holding on with shishou probably the best outcome

That's literally where tactics comes in
More targets means the ones that actually matter have a better chance of getting through and getting hit by 20 blades will eventually kill
And the summoned goblins can be kited

And this is easily still within the confines of the dungeon

Nov 8, 2022 12:16 AM

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Bastiono said:

Gel_chan said:

the casuality gonna be on really bad territory if she retreated and regroup, the only reason why the demon didn't just straight out murder everyone in town is because she's interested with fighting fran.
even if she regroup, most of the demon attack would insta kill them (most of them struggle and took their time killing a goblin anyway) with C rank possibly the only survivor
and now the demon gonna let the DM summon all the strong goblin and other C rank gonna get busy with them, because again the demon is only interested with 1v1 with fran

she holding on with shishou probably the best outcome

That's literally where tactics comes in
More targets means the ones that actually matter have a better chance of getting through and getting hit by 20 blades will eventually kill
And the summoned goblins can be kited

And this is easily still within the confines of the dungeon

i mean what tactics you would suggest or could think of that have better outcome than this ? the only C ranked beside fran is the dwarf and donadrond, Fran barely can defend herself through Darkness Volteccer and none of the C rank have that big of shield so it would possibly insta-kill them.
"getting hit by 20 blades will eventually kill"
you are assuming 20 of them have capability to do damage to the demon, even Fran strongest Physical attack and poison barely scratch the demon.
"the summoned goblins can be kited"
the summoned Goblin is a D and C-ranked monster means they are only slightly weaker than dwarf and donadrond, they are struggle clearing F and E ranked goblin on enterance with a lot help from lower ranked adventurer
what chance do they have facing D and C rank by themselves when everyone else would 100% be dead by single aoe spell from the demon? that's nonesense

this is by no means the best result, making the fight more convoluted doesn't mean it'll be more hyped and interesting
the simpler way actually makes more sense because the demon doesn't know the exictence of shishou so he not realizing being on disadvantages with 2 vs 1
> Fran absorb the magicite and get the skill
> No one dies

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Nov 8, 2022 8:02 PM

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Gel_chan said:

Bastiono said:

That's literally where tactics comes in
More targets means the ones that actually matter have a better chance of getting through and getting hit by 20 blades will eventually kill
And the summoned goblins can be kited

And this is easily still within the confines of the dungeon

i mean what tactics you would suggest or could think of that have better outcome than this ? the only C ranked beside fran is the dwarf and donadrond, Fran barely can defend herself through Darkness Volteccer and none of the C rank have that big of shield so it would possibly insta-kill them.
"getting hit by 20 blades will eventually kill"
you are assuming 20 of them have capability to do damage to the demon, even Fran strongest Physical attack and poison barely scratch the demon.
"the summoned goblins can be kited"
the summoned Goblin is a D and C-ranked monster means they are only slightly weaker than dwarf and donadrond, they are struggle clearing F and E ranked goblin on enterance with a lot help from lower ranked adventurer
what chance do they have facing D and C rank by themselves when everyone else would 100% be dead by single aoe spell from the demon? that's nonesense

this is by no means the best result, making the fight more convoluted doesn't mean it'll be more hyped and interesting
the simpler way actually makes more sense because the demon doesn't know the exictence of shishou so he not realizing being on disadvantages with 2 vs 1
> Fran absorb the magicite and get the skill
> No one dies

If Fran isn't there, all the adventurers die, no question about it. Even Donadrond can't take on a B-Rank Greater Demon. (The dwarf is D-rank btw)
Then, maybe the demon tries to attack the city, probably the knights come out, and a bunch of em dies. Maybe some knights can fight a B rank, it's not said how strong their strongest are.
The guild master Klimt is level 60+, he's probably the only one in the city that could beat the demon, and he'd win fairly easily.
All the adventurers higher than C Rank are currently not in town, so that's a big problem.

Nov 8, 2022 9:21 PM

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Ragon_Qc said:

Gel_chan said:

i mean what tactics you would suggest or could think of that have better outcome than this ? the only C ranked beside fran is the dwarf and donadrond, Fran barely can defend herself through Darkness Volteccer and none of the C rank have that big of shield so it would possibly insta-kill them.
"getting hit by 20 blades will eventually kill"
you are assuming 20 of them have capability to do damage to the demon, even Fran strongest Physical attack and poison barely scratch the demon.
"the summoned goblins can be kited"
the summoned Goblin is a D and C-ranked monster means they are only slightly weaker than dwarf and donadrond, they are struggle clearing F and E ranked goblin on enterance with a lot help from lower ranked adventurer
what chance do they have facing D and C rank by themselves when everyone else would 100% be dead by single aoe spell from the demon? that's nonesense

this is by no means the best result, making the fight more convoluted doesn't mean it'll be more hyped and interesting
the simpler way actually makes more sense because the demon doesn't know the exictence of shishou so he not realizing being on disadvantages with 2 vs 1
> Fran absorb the magicite and get the skill
> No one dies

If Fran isn't there, all the adventurers die, no question about it. Even Donadrond can't take on a B-Rank Greater Demon. (The dwarf is D-rank btw)
Then, maybe the demon tries to attack the city, probably the knights come out, and a bunch of em dies. Maybe some knights can fight a B rank, it's not said how strong their strongest are.
The guild master Klimt is level 60+, he's probably the only one in the city that could beat the demon, and he'd win fairly easily.
All the adventurers higher than C Rank are currently not in town, so that's a big problem.

dwarf is D-rank? well that'll turn from 0 to negative 100 then
yeah i totally agree, this is probably the best outcome of all option fran could choose and the fact that her reason not to step back is very noble to the point actually forgot her initial reason (the promised curry) showing how much fran care about alesa and growth as a person
i doubt that the knight is any stronger than D-rank, prob the best stretch is C-ranked power level but even then it's still too weak to do any significant damage to the demon
Klimt without doubt could kill the Demon , even if he can't for some reason amanda coming the next day would finish the job in instant
but the body count would prob would be reach up to 200 atleast

Nov 9, 2022 9:59 AM

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Ah look, and a lovely target has presented itself to try Skill Taker out on.

Nov 9, 2022 10:46 AM

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Good episode with some great action. Glad that Fran and Shishou were able to win and I hope they show Fran enjoying curry in the next episode. The new guy that appeared at the end may have a lie detecting skill worth taking as a couple of other posters mentioned but hopefully Fran comes out of that interrogation without having to resort to violence.

Nov 9, 2022 3:41 PM

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Hell yeah! Fran and her sword took out the Greater demon prick! Booyah!

Fran looked so badass taking out the dungeon master. That prick deserves to die mwahaha!

That metal OST playing the background slaps so hard. I was banging my head to that shit. It's so fire.

Nov 9, 2022 3:56 PM

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It was a great fight. Didn't think they would go the "you can't steal shared skills" route because this could have turned into an advantage as well, like if Fran herself had lvl 1 sword mastery then the demon would have nerfed himself with the steal basically. lol

Nov 9, 2022 6:15 PM

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Wow that was great! Fran is way stronger now! How can something be so badass yet so adorable at the same time?! >w< Donadrond looked so worried! >-< I'm glad everything turned out ok and they both made it out alive, but I'm sure that it's only gonna get harder from there. I'm so hyped! That guy at the end looks like trouble. ono

Nov 9, 2022 7:08 PM

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i guess now we know WHO Teacher and Fran will use their maxed out Skill Taker on lol Can't wait for next week's episode.

Nov 11, 2022 6:07 AM

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i just hope they put the Skill Taker that they have recently acquired and put it into good use because as for me that would be a game changer! they can find a rare unique skill and steal it! not sure if they can steal a legendary skill from Class A or S...lolz
5/5.

Nov 11, 2022 11:50 AM

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That was such an awesome episode. Fran is so damn precious. She and Shishou managed to kill the Demon and are now off to the curry party but before that, they need to take care of that fat guy.

Nov 11, 2022 10:24 PM

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The full fight was awesome, and the finesse in some of the sword choreography.
Skill Taker sounds quite strong.

Nov 12, 2022 2:39 AM

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One of my go-to series this season.

Nov 13, 2022 1:26 PM

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FRAN KAWAAII!!!!

Nov 13, 2022 10:45 PM

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"getting hit by 20 blades will eventually kill"

you are assuming 20 of them have capability to do damage to the demon, even Fran strongest Physical attack and poison barely scratch the demon.

Literally no, 20 papercuts will kill eventually. While the demon is spending energy taking out small fry, the more capable fighters are able to save their strength for more significant attacks

What I'm suggesting is from Shiroe's playbook from Log Horizon and even he had to try several times to defeat the bosses

Nov 14, 2022 5:46 AM

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Fran and Teacher are seriously good together !! There chemistry just works !!

That Greater Demon is so tough like it has a major weakness it being a summon and that weakness is its master but he's still strong !!

Really cute and intense episode !!

Nov 16, 2022 2:55 PM

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Nov 18, 2022 2:56 AM

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Great episode, curious what the heck is supposed to happen next. Skill Taker should be fun, they did a good job making teacher look totally wrecked. Good battle and well fought, and quick thinking from Teacher as well, if you cannot defeat something so powerful... then just look for the source and destroy it! So yeah, good development for Fran and Teacher in the end.

Nov 18, 2022 3:13 AM

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Bastiono said:

"getting hit by 20 blades will eventually kill"

you are assuming 20 of them have capability to do damage to the demon, even Fran strongest Physical attack and poison barely scratch the demon.

Literally no, 20 papercuts will kill eventually. While the demon is spending energy taking out small fry, the more capable fighters are able to save their strength for more significant attacks

What I'm suggesting is from Shiroe's playbook from Log Horizon and even he had to try several times to defeat the bosses

20 papercuts will kill eventually. that's absolutely makes 0 sense logic, if the strongest attack from shishou can only did less 3% healthpool of the monster.
what this D-ranked who'll die in 1 hit gonna do to the monster? i don't get the fixation of "let's work together it'll be more interesting"
NO, if i'm working as crane operator and the only help i got is from Middle-schooler who never seen a crane before. the best option are for me to work by myself

> While the demon is spending energy taking out small fry
he would wipe everyone in 1 hit, why you acting like everyone is on same level as fran? he breaks no sweat barraging the whole cave. this adventurer would be dead from the rubble alone

>the more capable fighters are able to save their strength for more significant attacks
bruh, it's already explained that their best attack does nothing, they almost maxed their offensive attack from C-rank monster and it took less than 5% of the demon HP
this average adventurer shit themselves from 5 goblins, why do you think they suddenly have offensive attack stronger than B-rank monster? absolutely makes no sense

>What I'm suggesting is from Shiroe's playbook from Log Horizon
oh my god, surprise surprise this is not Log Horizon. it's not the kind shit where you "IF WE WORK TOGETHER, WE CAN WIN" it's really not
have you played MMO with world boss or non-level sync raid ? where the low level shitter be there or not would absolutely makes no different? i do
i've been playing FF14 for few years now, if someone want to do mount farming we just sent the newbie on minimum level sit on the back and the high level just finished the boss in few second
he touch the keyboard or not would absolutely contribute nothing

they already the advantages for the enemy not knowing the sword are intelegence and they already have the strategy in mind how to finish the boss
shishou even comment "how many casuality if fran agrees to retreat and glad she didn't take her advice"
it's almost felt like we didn't watch the same anime huh?

MyGoNov 18, 2022 5:33 AM

Nov 18, 2022 8:33 AM

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Who is that old man? I sure hope he's not a creep.

Nov 19, 2022 10:35 PM

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MyGo said:

>What I'm suggesting is from Shiroe's playbook from Log Horizon
oh my god, surprise surprise this is not Log Horizon. it's not the kind shit where you "IF WE WORK TOGETHER, WE CAN WIN" it's really not
have you played MMO with world boss or non-level sync raid ? where the low level shitter be there or not would absolutely makes no different?

That's literally why Shiroe loses, continually. They're not winning through strength, they're winning by tactics
With a small party (Fran and Teacher), you're going to lose.
With a larger tactical party you have a chance to win
Going by your 'low level shitter' that's how Fran's looked at. Since she won, she was clearly not useless

Nov 21, 2022 10:30 AM

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Bastiono said:

MyGo said:

>What I'm suggesting is from Shiroe's playbook from Log Horizon
oh my god, surprise surprise this is not Log Horizon. it's not the kind shit where you "IF WE WORK TOGETHER, WE CAN WIN" it's really not
have you played MMO with world boss or non-level sync raid ? where the low level shitter be there or not would absolutely makes no different?

That's literally why Shiroe loses, continually. They're not winning through strength, they're winning by tactics
With a small party (Fran and Teacher), you're going to lose.
With a larger tactical party you have a chance to win
Going by your 'low level shitter' that's how Fran's looked at. Since she won, she was clearly not useless

but they have strategies tho? the have the upper-hand of the demon not knowing about shishou
(With a larger tactical party you have a chance to win) ok tell me how they would done it? are you seriously can't read what i said multiple times?
a. fran strongest attack which is maxed C-rank skill can only do less than 3% for both physical and magical
b. everyone other than Dond are bunch of G-D ranked, you seriously think they would makes any difference?
c. Fran barely able to defend herself from demon attack , you think this adventurer can do it when most of them shit their pants from a normal goblin?
like how delusional you are?

(Going by your 'low level shitter' that's how Fran's looked at)
wtf do you mean? fran is so overpowered she literaly charged the whole dungeon alone. she's raised to D-rank in few days while a lot of people took several years to make it
how "low level shitter" criteria fit for fran? what are you talking about?
like you have 0 argument and now just desperate for anything, just be an adult and admit yourself "omg, sorry i'm wrong"
it's not hard

Nov 25, 2022 8:20 AM

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Dec 2, 2022 9:01 PM

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ROFL @ Donadrond holding Fran with one hand and scolding her by reciting the Adventure Rule, LOL

And then we have another Fat Pig creepo that thinks he knows everything... (every Isekai anime gotta have at least one)

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Dec 14, 2022 6:45 PM

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Yup, perfect timing! It's time use the Skill Taker on that annoying gross old man -_- ;)

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Dec 18, 2022 4:28 AM

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absolutely great episode

Dec 18, 2022 12:40 PM

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muito bom, anime padrao isekai

Dec 25, 2022 8:22 AM

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That guy really annoying when said that Fran is lying.

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Feels bad for the Greater Demon boss he's truly one of the best bosses in isekai.

Hope he returns in the future tho the manga kinda went downhill so not hoping kek

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Jan 6, 2023 11:22 PM

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Wouldn't it be funny if the demon sword suddenly talked in a later episode. The sword kept quiet the entire time because it couldn't stand the its original owner and waited for a worthy one to come along.

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Jan 15, 2023 2:33 PM

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Epic seeing Teacher giving some retribution to that demon, on the other hand the Dungeon master truly was a pathethic goblin for dying because of losing his hand.

Feb 7, 2023 8:03 PM

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Just started binging this anime today (and I'm only watching dub; otherwise I'd be commenting on the last episode instead) and I'm LOVING IT!

Firstly, it's a unique thing that the person who died was reincarnated as an OP sword rather than some prodigy (like Wise Man's Grandchild, or That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime). I wonder if we'll learn anything about Teacher's human life (other than he was run over).

The relationship between Teacher and Fran is great to see! Through his ability to share skills, Teacher is able to make Fran stronger and hopefully she'll attain her goal of being the first Black Cat to evolve.

Speaking of, it seems that she gets similar treatment to Naruto in the way that a lot of people detest her. However, it's on a much smaller scale and she doesn't have some kind of power that's trying to take control of her like Kurama once did with Naruto.

So far I think that this series has a lot to offer. As the episodes progress we learn more about the things within this world and Fran progresses both as a fighter and as a person.

As far as this episode specifically....

It seems that Fran wasn't strong enough to take out the Greater Demon by herself. They did get a new skill in Skill Taker, but the cooldown is 432 hours. That's 18 days. Since it's upgraded to Level 10 it now has a 100% success rate. I wonder if you can somehow use it to give somebody your own skill.

Lastly it seems that the weird chin guy has some kind of skill that allows him to see through Fran's lie.

I'm excited to see what happens next...

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Mar 12, 2023 3:18 PM

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This fight was a lot of fun to watch. This dungeon master fucked with the wrong black cat!

The guy at the end has one of the most hateable designs I have ever seen. At least they have a target for their new skill taker.

Mar 17, 2023 8:39 AM

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What an epic battle!

Dec 12, 2023 8:02 AM

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fran was cute and yeah the ffight scene was great and I like it TwT

Dec 15, 2023 7:46 AM

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Fran might become a hero with the sword

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i dont like the sword but fran is cute

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Jul 1, 2024 10:07 PM

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That's some nice action right there. Anyway, as I understand, usually, adventurers gather these crystals to be sold? So destroying them when someone else could see would raise suspicions huh. So absorbing them really is unique to Shisho.

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