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Oct 16, 2022 1:51 AM
#1
I've watched up to episode 3, and what I've seen was... mediocre, perhaps. The premise was refreshing in this age of isekais and highschool dramas, but the execution didn't quite deliver. Animation was stiff, plot progression was rushed, emotional moments didn't quite hit right, with lack of visual storytelling to make them impactful. Visuals aren't the be-all and end-all of a show, but its lack was noticeable. The artstyle was serviceable, but direction was uninspired. Perhaps the story was enchanting and fantastical in its original medium, but this felt merely fine. The music was great tho. |
Oct 16, 2022 2:36 AM
#2
Theoretically speaking I should have loved this anime. The setting, the art style and the music all have potential, but my enjoyment isn't as high as expected because the investigations are lackluster and quickly resolved. |
Oct 16, 2022 3:54 AM
#3
IbnAurum said: I've watched up to episode 3, and what I've seen was... mediocre, perhaps. The premise was refreshing in this age of isekais and highschool dramas, but the execution didn't quite deliver. Animation was stiff, plot progression was rushed, emotional moments didn't quite hit right, with lack of visual storytelling to make them impactful. Visuals aren't the be-all and end-all of a show, but its lack was noticeable. The artstyle was serviceable, but direction was uninspired. Perhaps the story was enchanting and fantastical in its original medium, but this felt merely fine. The music was great tho. pretty much this. it's watchable yes, but it's also average at best |
Oct 16, 2022 5:25 AM
#4
Untortunately it is missing something ... to keep my interested. I first had been reminded of Saiunkoku Monogatari - but there we had a straight plot and interesting political stuff. Here it seems like ti will be episodic ... with background story hints mainly related to the position of the raven consort and the female main in this position + the people with the white hair. This is usually stuff I do not like. Especially since the chars here are not tooo interesting. And the episodic stories also are nothing special. (Natsume Yuujinchou was a good anime with episodic stuff for example.) Dropping it at a 6/10 and focusing on other anime. |
Oct 16, 2022 7:23 AM
#5
That's what people think.. They don't appreciate intelligent anime with mysterious people and supernatural adventures and dreamy sceneries and want to see kids being treated like slaves in gas chamber like blue lock, with shit Grey background and a bright white screen every 4mins ... |
Oct 16, 2022 10:06 AM
#6
ryo-san said: They don't appreciate intelligent anime Well, why you had to, we spend 70% of our lives and an adult. Why force everyone to watch high-brain powers shit. Some of us just wanted to have fun. Also, i think that was not the point that people was disappointed mate, I love this anime and watch a lot off your so called "smart anime". I love this type of settings to cause i grown up watching Wuxia/Chinese martial art shows. The pacing just felt weird and rusted. Compared to similar story and settings like Apothecary diary (a good mystery manga set in dysnastic Chian too) or other light mystery anime like conan, the problem-solving part was pretty weak. Still love it and might give it an 8/10 though cause the art was good and songs was good and it reminds me of Chinese historical dramas. |
Oct 16, 2022 10:32 AM
#8
MemoreOct 16, 2022 10:44 AM
Oct 16, 2022 1:49 PM
#9
I love this anime. The big flaw is the rushed plot. They are trying to cover too much in each episode. If the writers and director could slow down and take the time necessary for a good story, the other issues would fade away. |
Oct 16, 2022 1:52 PM
#10
I think the anime is good personally. I'm more interested in them solving issues than romance personally and the raven consort isn't supposed to get along with others I don't think. |
Oct 17, 2022 9:27 AM
#11
Simple. This is Japanese "donghua." If you are looking for fun, you'll be hard-pressed to find it on "donghua," because donghua is very culturally oriented. 10/10 for this anime, as an anime fan and as a Chinese, even if Bandai Namco Pictures had to lower the animation/graphic quality to be like Donghua (because Sunrise, which is the parent of BN Pictures, prioritizes Gundam and Love Live more). |
Oct 22, 2022 1:28 PM
#12
Mhh I was sort of hoping for this to be a sleeper hit of the season, but the lacking production values weigh quiet heavenly on this show. Other than the pacing issues and lacking (art) direction the thing that bothers me the most is that it feels to "anime" for a show that is obviously inspired by chinese court dramas. The characters manerism, conduct, choice of words and overall behaviour all feel out of place for a show with this setting. I mean why choose this particular setting and then fall back on generic tropes from anime and manga? That doesen't work. It clashes too much with the court setting and breaks immersion with these type of shows in particular. I would like to point out that tropes could and should still be used, they exist for a reason after all, but using tropes from chinese dramas would fit the show much better. For the sake of (casual) enjoyment the rules of etiquette can obviously be relaxed, but they should still be present in their most rudimentary form. That would give this show more identity and make it more immersive. At least in my unqualified opinion. To be honest I'm just a little dissapointed with how the first 4 episodes turned out and would like to point out that the show is not bad by any means but if the current style continues I guess it is goint to be another generic show that willl be forgotten by the time the next season comes arround. |
Oct 23, 2022 5:15 AM
#13
OG_Otaku said: I love this anime. The big flaw is the rushed plot. They are trying to cover too much in each episode. If the writers and director could slow down and take the time necessary for a good story, the other issues would fade away. Triggerfish124 said: I think the anime is good personally. I'm more interested in them solving issues than romance personally and the raven consort isn't supposed to get along with others I don't think. teofilusSW said: Simple. This is Japanese "donghua." If you are looking for fun, you'll be hard-pressed to find it on "donghua," because donghua is very culturally oriented. 10/10 for this anime, as an anime fan and as a Chinese, even if Bandai Namco Pictures had to lower the animation/graphic quality to be like Donghua (because Sunrise, which is the parent of BN Pictures, prioritizes Gundam and Love Live more). Absolutely agree with you! We need more such mystery series and interesting heroes! SpellboundTaoist said: Mhh I was sort of hoping for this to be a sleeper hit of the season, but the lacking production values weigh quiet heavenly on this show. Other than the pacing issues and lacking (art) direction the thing that bothers me the most is that it feels to "anime" for a show that is obviously inspired by chinese court dramas. The characters manerism, conduct, choice of words and overall behaviour all feel out of place for a show with this setting. I mean why choose this particular setting and then fall back on generic tropes from anime and manga? That doesen't work. It clashes too much with the court setting and breaks immersion with these type of shows in particular. I would like to point out that tropes could and should still be used, they exist for a reason after all, but using tropes from chinese dramas would fit the show much better. For the sake of (casual) enjoyment the rules of etiquette can obviously be relaxed, but they should still be present in their most rudimentary form. That would give this show more identity and make it more immersive. At least in my unqualified opinion. To be honest I'm just a little dissapointed with how the first 4 episodes turned out and would like to point out that the show is not bad by any means but if the current style continues I guess it is goint to be another generic show that willl be forgotten by the time the next season comes arround. Obvious answer from me: if you don't like this (and any other series), simply don't watch or read it. I do so if I don't like the series or work which I decide to read if I feel like I don't like where plot goes or if I don't like heroes. |
MemoreOct 23, 2022 5:22 AM
Oct 23, 2022 8:45 AM
#14
if you think this is lack lustre then you're going to dislike the remaining like 90% animes. or you just don't understand the appeal of these kind of animes. you probably should stick to fast-paced, adrenaline rush animes. |
TsutanaiFuunOct 23, 2022 8:50 AM
Oct 23, 2022 12:00 PM
#15
Memore said: OG_Otaku said: I love this anime. The big flaw is the rushed plot. They are trying to cover too much in each episode. If the writers and director could slow down and take the time necessary for a good story, the other issues would fade away. Triggerfish124 said: I think the anime is good personally. I'm more interested in them solving issues than romance personally and the raven consort isn't supposed to get along with others I don't think. teofilusSW said: Simple. This is Japanese "donghua." If you are looking for fun, you'll be hard-pressed to find it on "donghua," because donghua is very culturally oriented. 10/10 for this anime, as an anime fan and as a Chinese, even if Bandai Namco Pictures had to lower the animation/graphic quality to be like Donghua (because Sunrise, which is the parent of BN Pictures, prioritizes Gundam and Love Live more). Absolutely agree with you! We need more such mystery series and interesting heroes! SpellboundTaoist said: Mhh I was sort of hoping for this to be a sleeper hit of the season, but the lacking production values weigh quiet heavenly on this show. Other than the pacing issues and lacking (art) direction the thing that bothers me the most is that it feels to "anime" for a show that is obviously inspired by chinese court dramas. The characters manerism, conduct, choice of words and overall behaviour all feel out of place for a show with this setting. I mean why choose this particular setting and then fall back on generic tropes from anime and manga? That doesen't work. It clashes too much with the court setting and breaks immersion with these type of shows in particular. I would like to point out that tropes could and should still be used, they exist for a reason after all, but using tropes from chinese dramas would fit the show much better. For the sake of (casual) enjoyment the rules of etiquette can obviously be relaxed, but they should still be present in their most rudimentary form. That would give this show more identity and make it more immersive. At least in my unqualified opinion. To be honest I'm just a little dissapointed with how the first 4 episodes turned out and would like to point out that the show is not bad by any means but if the current style continues I guess it is goint to be another generic show that willl be forgotten by the time the next season comes arround. Obvious answer from me: if you don't like this (and any other series), simply don't watch or read it. I do so if I don't like the series or work which I decide to read if I feel like I don't like where plot goes or if I don't like heroes. Yeah but get this: I first have to watch enough of it to know where it's going? What I don't get with replies like this is: how am I supposed to know beforehand how the show is going to turn out? Why do you think I am still sticking with the show? Obviously because there are still elements I enjoy and I want to find out where the show is headed. I am just disapointed how a relatively fresh premise (in anime at least) is seemingly going to be wasted by falling back on (anime and manga) tropes that contradict the very setting it's trying to portray. Instead of actually working with the setting and using it to the advantage of the characters and the story it feels like just another case of japanese people in a foreign setting acting mostly like japanese anime characters instead of the people it tries to emulate. Thats what bugs me, if that not a problem with you thats fine as well. For me such things break immersion and frequently pull me out of the show. And again: I still find the show enjoyable enough to continue watching. It's just that I get my hopes up every time only to get disappointed again and again with shows that could be great but instead fail to live up to their potential. (As of episode 4 at least). How will I ever find out if the show manages to get better if I don't watch it fully? That's why I rarely drop shows. If my years on myanimelist taught me anything it's that it's better to see for yourself and form your own opinion instead of blindly trusting others views. I would have missed many great shows that way. |
Oct 23, 2022 12:09 PM
#16
SpellboundTaoist said: Memore said: OG_Otaku said: I love this anime. The big flaw is the rushed plot. They are trying to cover too much in each episode. If the writers and director could slow down and take the time necessary for a good story, the other issues would fade away. Triggerfish124 said: I think the anime is good personally. I'm more interested in them solving issues than romance personally and the raven consort isn't supposed to get along with others I don't think. teofilusSW said: Simple. This is Japanese "donghua." If you are looking for fun, you'll be hard-pressed to find it on "donghua," because donghua is very culturally oriented. 10/10 for this anime, as an anime fan and as a Chinese, even if Bandai Namco Pictures had to lower the animation/graphic quality to be like Donghua (because Sunrise, which is the parent of BN Pictures, prioritizes Gundam and Love Live more). Absolutely agree with you! We need more such mystery series and interesting heroes! SpellboundTaoist said: Mhh I was sort of hoping for this to be a sleeper hit of the season, but the lacking production values weigh quiet heavenly on this show. Other than the pacing issues and lacking (art) direction the thing that bothers me the most is that it feels to "anime" for a show that is obviously inspired by chinese court dramas. The characters manerism, conduct, choice of words and overall behaviour all feel out of place for a show with this setting. I mean why choose this particular setting and then fall back on generic tropes from anime and manga? That doesen't work. It clashes too much with the court setting and breaks immersion with these type of shows in particular. I would like to point out that tropes could and should still be used, they exist for a reason after all, but using tropes from chinese dramas would fit the show much better. For the sake of (casual) enjoyment the rules of etiquette can obviously be relaxed, but they should still be present in their most rudimentary form. That would give this show more identity and make it more immersive. At least in my unqualified opinion. To be honest I'm just a little dissapointed with how the first 4 episodes turned out and would like to point out that the show is not bad by any means but if the current style continues I guess it is goint to be another generic show that willl be forgotten by the time the next season comes arround. Obvious answer from me: if you don't like this (and any other series), simply don't watch or read it. I do so if I don't like the series or work which I decide to read if I feel like I don't like where plot goes or if I don't like heroes. Yeah but get this: I first have to watch enough of it to know where it's going? What I don't get with replies like this is: how am I supposed to know beforehand how the show is going to turn out? Why do you think I am still sticking with the show? Obviously because there are still elements I enjoy and I want to find out where the show is headed. I am just disapointed how a relatively fresh premise (in anime at least) is seemingly going to be wasted by falling back on (anime and manga) tropes that contradict the very setting it's trying to portray. Instead of actually working with the setting and using it to the advantage of the characters and the story it feels like just another case of japanese people in a foreign setting acting mostly like japanese anime characters instead of the people it tries to emulate. Thats what bugs me, if that not a problem with you thats fine as well. For me such things break immersion and frequently pull me out of the show. And again: I still find the show enjoyable enough to continue watching. It's just that I get my hopes up every time only to get disappointed again and again with shows that could be great but instead fail to live up to their potential. (As of episode 4 at least). How will I ever find out if the show manages to get better if I don't watch it fully? That's why I rarely drop shows. If my years on myanimelist taught me anything it's that it's better to see for yourself and form your own opinion instead of blindly trusting others views. I would have missed many great shows that way. I understand your opinion, thanks. Maybe then you shouldn't have high expectations at the begining? That way you can enjoy of the works more. Just advice from me. Do what you like. TsutanaiFuun said: if you think this is lack lustre then you're going to dislike the remaining like 90% animes. or you just don't understand the appeal of these kind of animes. you probably should stick to fast-paced, adrenaline rush animes. Agree with your opinion too. |
Oct 23, 2022 3:33 PM
#17
Well expectations sort of form on their own, do they not? Besides reading the synopsis I came in blind as I never really wacth promotional material in order to avoid forming a premature opinion. I was just expecting the setting to have a bigger influence on the story and characters as well as their behaviour instead it just feels like a gimmick to somewhat set the show apart from similar stories. That's a shame really. A show that worked for me would be "Emma: A Victorian Romance". Although not perfect, in my opinion it used the the setting rather effectively to portray a convincing story. |
Oct 24, 2022 1:21 AM
#18
I disagree, the art is absolutely beautiful, the characters bounce off of each other so well, and not to mention the drama is great, not too overdramatic or underwhelming. I actually think the pacing is good, I haven’t felt any disimmersion at all. The only thing I’m not the biggest fan of is the opening, but that’s just my musical preferences. |
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Oct 24, 2022 11:52 AM
#19
Spicelit said: I disagree, the art is absolutely beautiful, the characters bounce off of each other so well, and not to mention the drama is great, not too overdramatic or underwhelming. I actually think the pacing is good, I haven’t felt any disimmersion at all. The only thing I’m not the biggest fan of is the opening, but that’s just my musical preferences. Oh dude, the opening was so cursed lol, like wtf. But the show is very nice indeed |
Oct 26, 2022 2:17 PM
#20
SpellboundTaoist said: Well expectations sort of form on their own, do they not? Besides reading the synopsis I came in blind as I never really wacth promotional material in order to avoid forming a premature opinion. I was just expecting the setting to have a bigger influence on the story and characters as well as their behaviour instead it just feels like a gimmick to somewhat set the show apart from similar stories. That's a shame really. A show that worked for me would be "Emma: A Victorian Romance". Although not perfect, in my opinion it used the the setting rather effectively to portray a convincing story. Yes, Emma is a great example of historic series! I like it so much! |
Oct 26, 2022 3:59 PM
#21
Besides the acceptable at beast animation quality, I this this anime is good and quite refreshing from all the isekai out there. I like this show premise, but I wish they should show more about the Emperor instead of heavily focusing on Shouxue |
Oct 27, 2022 4:36 AM
#22
There were some slight mistakes at the beginning - when people gave reasons as to why they did not like it and some others reacted salty cause there were people that did not like the stuff they liked. Then claiming they do not like "intelligent shows" when clearly the reasons where others. (I even gave two examples of shows that I liked - that were similar in some parts. But different than this one ... in parts that are important for me. Certainly not "less intelligent" the other stuff I liked/mentioned.) But good to see that some other people in the later posts ... made other points. I did not even know the term "Donghua". I could watch a japanese "Taiga Drama" (the ones from NHK, real drama series focused on a historical person ... with medieval-like japanese style of talking) - and I like it. But for the Chinese stuff I already dislike if the names are spoken chinese (some other anime) or spoken Japanese (I think here) + having a Chinese spelling in the sub (confusing if they speak different than the sub). |
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