Bondrewd having more character favorites than Reg and Riko really shows what an amazing antagonist he was
| Basically a Bondrewd appreciation post. I'm a sucker for good antagonists and I just noticed that he has more character favorites than the two protagonists! Damn, with just one movie. Did you also enjoy him a lot? What did you like (or dislike) about his role in the story? |
| I don't know if i would call him a good antagonist, he is what this manga does best, a shock factor, and oh boi is he a big one. I still like him, but i think the reason why he has so many fans is because well, he's edgy. |
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eze_k22 said: Bondrewd was a good antagonist until the point at the end of the movie where he decided that he was no longer a children-murdering psychopath and became all buddy buddy with Nanachi, Reg and Riko. He was indifferent and cruel like a psychopath but he wasn't a sadist. He didn't hurt people just for the sake of it, so when he realized there was no point in killing the protagonists, he stopped. They also beat his ass so. |
cringeylazy said: there's not really any reason for what he does as far as I remember in the movie. His reason was science and he's curious about the Abyss. He employed the children as tools for this. As far as I understood he has the permission of the government(?) to do this because he guards the passage to the next level of the Abyss. |
| Bondrewd was phenomenal villain. The evil and disgusting shit he did made him irredeemable, but that's how you write a villain.  |
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Piromysl said: Bondrewd was phenomenal villain. The evil and disgusting shit he did made him irredeemable, but that's how you write a villain. lmao ------------------- |
eze_k22 said: Rojaseb said: He was indifferent and cruel like a psychopath but he wasn't a sadist. He didn't hurt people just for the sake of it, so when he realized there was no point in killing the protagonists, he stopped. They also beat his ass so. Lmao yes his ass did get beat, it just seemed like a very sudden change in intention. And I also didn't like how okay Nanachi seemed with it despite him putting her through significant emotional and physical trauma. I thought Nanaki was very hurt but she wasn't going to waste the opportunity to get the f out of there lol, which is why it seemed a bit fast. She's just a very strong person I think. |
| I don't think that Bonedrewd is some amazingly written villain, a lot of his appeal is pure aesthetics (he looks cool, he sounds cool and has a cool theme) and what he did to Prushika (because Prushika is a child that the film has already given the audience time to connect with it is more of a gut punch just like with Shou tucker and Nina) But despite all this I think he is a great villain, while he doesn't have the most depth he works as a good antagonist and still remains one of the most memorable things bout made in abyss. |
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JVFE said: Sadly, I think it shows how uninteresting the protagonists are, he is still a very good villain tho. It does and it doesn't. I took a look at the character favorites and Bondrewd is actually the most liked movie character of all time, by a large margin. Followed distantly by: Kyoujurou Rengoku - Kimetsu no Yaiba Mio Chibana - Umibe no Étranger Howl - Howl's Moving Castle Lio Fotia - Promare Nausicaä - Kaze no Tani no Nausicaä Shouko Nishimiya - A Silent Voice So even if the protagonists were great he would still be competition to them. |
Rojaseb said: Yea but tbf, MiA's protagonists are not really that developed. If Bondrewd was a 100, then Nanachi would be 70, Reg 50 and Riko 35. The fact that these characters are the order of first appearance reversed really says something JVFE said: Sadly, I think it shows how uninteresting the protagonists are, he is still a very good villain tho. It does and it doesn't. I took a look at the character favorites and Bondrewd is actually the most liked movie character of all time, by a large margin. Followed distantly by: Kyoujurou Rengoku - Kimetsu no Yaiba Mio Chibana - Umibe no Étranger Howl - Howl's Moving Castle Lio Fotia - Promare Nausicaä - Kaze no Tani no Nausicaä Shouko Nishimiya - A Silent Voice So even if the protagonists were great he would still be competition to them. |
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TheDeathstormer said: Rojaseb said: Yea but tbf, MiA's protagonists are not really that developed. If Bondrewd was a 100, then Nanachi would be 70, Reg 50 and Riko 35. The fact that these characters are the order of first appearance reversed really says something It does and it doesn't. I took a look at the character favorites and Bondrewd is actually the most liked movie character of all time, by a large margin. Followed distantly by: Kyoujurou Rengoku - Kimetsu no Yaiba Mio Chibana - Umibe no Étranger Howl - Howl's Moving Castle Lio Fotia - Promare Nausicaä - Kaze no Tani no Nausicaä Shouko Nishimiya - A Silent Voice So even if the protagonists were great he would still be competition to them. Don't do my girl Nanachi like that, she's a solid 80 compared or not to Bondrewd |
| I wasn't being exact; she's more or less around 70-80 |
| "A single 'thank you' is worth more than a million sorries." -๐ธ๐๐พ๐๐พ๐ถ |
| He's an evil and disgusting piece of shit and I don't understand any admirers. |
smoledman said: He's an evil and disgusting piece of shit and I don't understand any admirers. Liking a fictional character doesn't mean you support their ideologies or actions or morals It simply means they entertained you |
| I don't think he entertained me, as much as disgusted me. I know too much about real history of medical experimentation(c.f. Mengele & Nazis) to be 'entertained' by this particular subject. Great anime though and if there is a hell in that universe, Bondrewd is there. |
smoledman said: I don't think he entertained me, as much as disgusted me. I know too much about real history of medical experimentation(c.f. Mengele & Nazis) to be 'entertained' by this particular subject. Great anime though and if there is a hell in that universe, Bondrewd is there. There is no logical way you could have liked this movie if Bondrewd didn't entertain you |
| I mean hes really Subarashi !!! So he deserves it. |
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Saeedlfc said: fuoccid said: For me it's due to his uniqeness as a villain. Although he may seem like it to you, he's not just some moustache twirling bad guy, who's evil because he kills kids. In order to understand his character you have to understand his motivations. Remember when in the first episode Riko was finding skeletons in praying positions from 2000 years ago? I've read the entirety of the manga, and I don't think it's ever stated outright, but it's presumed that every 2000 years The Abyss releases a horrible calamity that kills many people. Now guess what year it is when the action of the anime is taking place? Approximately 1900 years since the calamity. Bondrewd discovered this, and is essentially a living tram moral dillema. He could either take action and try to stop it (even if it means doing something horrible) or doom humanity for extinction. He chose the former and sacrificed his own humanity and morals in the name of science. He doesn't enjoy inflicting pain on others, he's just taking the most efficient route to turn the wheels of progress. If that's the case, fair enough. That doesn't make me like him as a villain, but I guess it does make him more understandable. Though I gotta ask, is that mentioned in the anime and I just missed it, or is it manga stuff? It was in the anime too |
| Well, Bondrewd is the reason why I gave the movie 1 point lower than what I was going to give. But then again it not at all surprised people in mal love bondrewd |
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|Saeedlfc said: I guess I missed it then, if he is doing it to save people that makes it better I guess, but I can still never like a character that hurts children no matter the reason so yh, I'm in the minority that's not into Bondrewd ¯\_(ใ)_/¯ He's not exactly doing it for other people, it's more about the knowledge/curiosity for him. His discoveries have very important applications but he's not altruistic like that lol. He doesn't do it to be sadistic either though, which is more so the point. |
Saeedlfc said: Rojaseb said: He's not exactly doing it for other people, it's more about the knowledge/curiosity for him. His discoveries have very important applications but he's not altruistic like that lol. He doesn't do it to be sadistic either though, which is more so the point. Well that's what I thought at first until the other guy said he was doing it to save humanity, if he is doing it for humanity's sake, then he goes up a bit in my eyes, but if not, then I'm back to square one with his character. I understand a bit more why people like him though, I just don't feel the same. Yeah I think the other person was being too optimistic about his character. Saving others is a byproduct of his efforts and he knows it but he doesn't directly strive to accomplish that. He's not some martyr suffering by doing awful things to get a positive result down the line. |
| Bondrewd is just a mad scientist - a guy willing to do anything in the name of research without any moral boundaries. I don't find it all that interesting. |
| why do people get surprised bondrewd has favorites when hisoka, a literal pedo, is worshipped by some fans |
| Honestly, most people have the attention span of four-year-olds. He was a good villain that did his job, it made me absolutely hate him. It's like people forget all the awful stuff he did and how the anime didn't shy from portraying how terrible of a person he was. But he still has a lot of character favorites(I'm guessing Nanachi has the most). MAL is weird people are weird. I don't care if he was edgy or cool or whatever I absolutely hated him and no good deed will be able to change the dreadful and atrocious things he did to those children. |
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| Good antagonist, but I've already seen it on FMA |
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