| Think about it, they had 12 episodes for a single constructive female conversation and I'm not sure there was one. This is a brutal setback in gender relations. Thoughts? |
| "Hey grrl, wanna hang out with the gals tonight?" "Nah beyotch, I gotta lay eggs." |
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NathanielGibbs said: "Hey grrl, wanna hang out with the gals tonight?" "Nah beyotch, I gotta lay eggs." shit you're right. is this this only exception? |
| Do the bullying scenes count in episode 1 and 2? |
Anesred said: Do the bullying scenes count in episode 1 and 2? nah man they were bullying her because of a boy |
But also because of the attention she gets, but I guess that's also about boys |
| I can think of several examples off the top of my head. The chicken talking with the woman in the shop about her eggs, the girls at the start of the first episode talking about the predation incident, the squirrels in the cafeteria, etc. |
| Most of these conversations were relayed to side characters but otherwise, it is here. |
| gee i sure hope not. i refuse to watch anything that passes the bechdel test. |
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| I hope this is a troll thread. If not, holy shit you must be a miserable person lol |
| So what? Beastars has talked about so many much more important themes than simply gender relations Plus, the author is a female and if she doesn't care why should u? |
0207xander said: Think about it, they had 12 episodes for a single constructive female conversation and I'm not sure there was one. This is a brutal setback in gender relations. Thoughts? Does it pass the Bechdel Test? Kind of. Does it matter? Not really, no. The two main female characters, Haru and Juno, are interested in just love and sex for the whole show. It makes them kinda unlikable, but not anti-feminist. To some sensitive female viewers looking to be represented, they will be disappointed. I personally don’t think it matters because even Legoshi is motivated by his love for Haru too. It makes Juno seem kinda one sided, but Haru is more complicated than just liking lots of sex. The test asks “whether a work features at least two women who talk to each other about something other than a man. The requirement that the two women must be named is sometimes added.“ If there were no female characters other than unnamed extras who only talk about men, that would fail the test. Beastars doesn’t fail the test. |
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| i think that a lot of people misunderstand what the bechdel test is actually about. it's not about feminism. it's about a lack of lesbian representation. the original creator is a lesbian. the joke is that the there's so little lesbian representation that lesbians are picking at the bottom of the barrel, settling for woman who are friends just talking to each other. HOWEVER, just because a series doesn't pass the bechdel test doesn't mean it's sexist. similarly, just because a series DOES pass the bechdel test, doesn't mean it ISN'T sexist about Beastars in particular, i think that it doesn't pass the bechdel test in the first 12 episodes (background characters who you don't know the names of do not count as passing.) but that doesn't mean it's sexist, or "a brutal setback in gender relations" (still not sure if that's a joke or not honestly!) more specifically, i think Haru is a GREAT example of a strong female character. i think it's even more amazing that she's a strong character without being physically strong in any way shape or form, since some writers tend to interpret "strong female character" as being literally strong instead of just an interesting person with interesting goals and motives (which Haru has!) i think that Juno is interesting as well. so that's my take on that |
This is classic internalized misogyny. She doesn't even realize she's setting gender relations back decades |
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