Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai: Tensai-tachi no Renai Zunousen Chapter 155 Discussion

GoldenUmi said:


Baseless narcissism is more disgusting than any of what you said. If you really think you're better than people then you're in for a rude wake up call in your life.

xShinigami3125 said:
Also if most people really aren’t in control of themselves, me believing to be better than them wouldn’t be baseless now would it ?

InfiniteStarz said:
This is something I read on reddit and looked at the chapter a second time. It seems plausible.
If you noticed with how Ishigami confessed, Tsubame looked shocked. Then she looked away looking scared.
The theory is that Tsubame was ready and really wanted to get in a relationship with him especially cause it's Christmas, so she wanted a special memory which is her first time. But after the confession, she now realized that Ishigami loves her idealistic self and is scared of the expectations. In other words, she's scared in a similar way like the Shirogane/Kaguya relationship. She's scared that Ishigami will not love her real self. She's probably hiding something that no else knows. That explains the excuse of long distance because she doesn't know what to say.
I would like to see her POV chapter and see where this relationship goes.

Ysad_Ziwezhan said:

Sorry, but it's a fact that he's already better than "those people".

Ishigami's thought is what one can call victim-blaming in rape cases. This way of thinking is everywhere, maybe for that reason the majority don't notice how bad that is, but it's still good to emphasize (one more time) that this kind of thought are not ok.

uninstallthegame said:

GoldenUmi said:


You are just as bad as the other guy then if you think that way. Again, it is proven in psychology that human beings do indeed have uncontrollable thoughts that the general populace would view as "not okay". That doesn't make anyone better or worse than anyone else. Thinking that way is narcissistic and means YOU are the one with a flawed mindset that needs to be improved.

Having questionable thoughts is one thing, and the actions you carry out are an entirely separate matter. If you have thoughts you don't agree with, it's your responsibility to work to improve upon them. The actions you carry out, good or bad, are what need to be used judge a person's character. Anything else that enters the picture is entirely irrelevant because nothing happened, no one was hurt or affected, and it remains nothing but an empty thought.

Ysad_Ziwezhan said:
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It looks like you didn't understand.

It's ok to think about fucking a girl, even more in Ishigami's situation in this chapter. I have no problem with that.

To think "she is so defenseless, if I was someone else, they would violently force themselves on her“ is on the other hand not ok, because it's the first step toward victim-blaming and for that, the rapists will say "thank you" with a smile.


Again, I know most people (even good mangakas obviously) aren't educated in this matter but hey, just think about it again later, it needs time to sink in but if you're not completely immune to learning, you'll understand one day. Also, other people might explain you that in a better way than me.

It's not super hard, even I could understand that at one point ;)

HaXXspetten said:
I love how the scanlators pointed out that her "far away university" was like 20 minutes away by train lol

Daisuki said:


Wow, I guess even twenty minutes away is too much. Or was that an excuse?

AzorAhai said:

Respect for not being a beast and giving in to his urges and forcing themselves for her ??? What the actual fuck dude, if you think that bare minimum deserves respect, then you are insane. It’s not about he later Part when he decides not to have sex with her, I can totally understand that. It’s his weird and creepy reaction to her simply sitting there, which is weird and creepy regardless of what she wears or at what time she shows up.

GoldenUmi said:


It's ok to think about fucking a girl, even more in Ishigami's situation in this chapter. I have no problem with that.

To think "she is so defenseless, if I was someone else, they would violently force themselves on her“ is on the other hand not ok, because it's the first step toward victim-blaming and for that, the rapists will say "thank you" with a smile.


Again, I know most people (even good mangakas obviously) aren't educated in this matter but hey, just think about it again later, it needs time to sink in but if you're not completely immune to learning, you'll understand one day. Also, other people might explain you that in a better way than me.

It's not super hard, even I could understand that at one point ;)

_Mack_ said:
I really like Tsubame, I think he's really happy around her, that being said I can respect her for turning him down. She's a third year and heading to university and Ishigami still has the majority of high school left, it would be hard for them to be in a serious relationship. She's showing some maturity with making that call after he confessed to her. I do think Tsubame likes him more than a lot of people notice and her wanting to hold his hand and get intimate with him despite the alcohol shows this. I like Miko and Tsubame both with Yu, it sucks seeing the girl he's interested in currently not being able to return it to him 100%. Miko needs to be there for him in this moment, not to swoop in and steal, but just to be there as a genuine friend. Can't wait to see more!

The comments on this chapter were cringe, Tsubame is not a "thot" , this was a more complex chapter than I think people realized, it def went over some heads.