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Jan 15, 2019 12:41 PM

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ahrrhd153 said:
One of many things that this series is bothering me is, that the show is not doing any justice for saints supersonic movements... It is almost like their body movement speed automatically readjust according to whoever the opponent is
It reminds me a little of dragon ball and its power levels, when a character becomes stronger it also gets faster and when a stronger one comes it is even faster than the previous one
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Fede_5000 said:
ahrrhd153 said:
One of many things that this series is bothering me is, that the show is not doing any justice for saints supersonic movements... It is almost like their body movement speed automatically readjust according to whoever the opponent is
It reminds me a little of dragon ball and its power levels, when a character becomes stronger it also gets faster and when a stronger one comes it is even faster than the previous one


Lack of animation talent hurts, they can't draw the proper speed or how the character powers work, so it becomes confusing and vague in the anime.
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Jan 16, 2019 1:14 PM
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I am so disconnected with this show like I'm watching it but I'm not feeling anything man. Something definitely went wrong in season 3.


Agreed. What's more, I rewatched previous seasons (including Railgun besides the bullshit arc in S2) before this aired and I'm still, as you said, completely disconnected.


I did exactly the same thing and feel exactly the same way. Rewatched everything before this season and still feel completely confused. I'm so glad I am not the only one.
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Fuck me this episode was ungodly cringe.
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Jan 18, 2019 2:57 AM
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animejas said:
That was a mediocre end to a poorly handled arc from what I assume. I really need to read the LNs one day...

Well, dont bother for this arc though, it was not really one of the best neither.
Most of Touma arcs in the LN suffer a bit of pacing issues, when Accelerator and other cast, and science is brought in, things usually get real.
Dont get me wrong Touma had some nice arcs too, but the LN clearly is at its best when you have alot of different PoV going on, and you can see both magic and science going at it.
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Playcool said:
animejas said:
That was a mediocre end to a poorly handled arc from what I assume. I really need to read the LNs one day...

Well, dont bother for this arc though, it was not really one of the best neither.
Most of Touma arcs in the LN suffer a bit of pacing issues, when Accelerator and other cast, and science is brought in, things usually get real.
Dont get me wrong Touma had some nice arcs too, but the LN clearly is at its best when you have alot of different PoV going on, and you can see both magic and science going at it.


But, this literally isn't his arc though?
The one who was in the spotlight was Aqcua.
However, I do disagree. Since this arc is very important for the climax at the end of OT.
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TomHazard said:
Playcool said:

Well, dont bother for this arc though, it was not really one of the best neither.
Most of Touma arcs in the LN suffer a bit of pacing issues, when Accelerator and other cast, and science is brought in, things usually get real.
Dont get me wrong Touma had some nice arcs too, but the LN clearly is at its best when you have alot of different PoV going on, and you can see both magic and science going at it.


But, this literally isn't his arc though?
The one who was in the spotlight was Aqcua.
However, I do disagree. Since this arc is very important for the climax at the end of OT.

It is heavy focused on Touma, he is the only MC here, other 2 dont appear, yes you have Acqua going on and all, but Touma also had alot of scenes.
When Touma is involved, there is almost always magic side, and the magic side most of the times suffers from pacing issues IMO, this happens alot cuz Kazuma likes to write 2 volumes for some arcs, sweet, but some feels too dragged due to this also, shit is happening, it is just not interesting.
Worst example was festival arc around 9-10, for those arcs I m actually glad the pacing is faster on the anime, whereas clearly vol15 deserved alot more of love.

Was not saying if this arc was relevant or not for WWIII, just saying, it is far from the best arcs, it drags too much, it does it to give more development to other characters, and it pays off, but there are also times where it is just boring to read.
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lol it looks like Touma was threatened by all the main characters appearing and out of fear of becoming a side character he punched that woman's face like a boss.
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Playcool said:
TomHazard said:


But, this literally isn't his arc though?
The one who was in the spotlight was Aqcua.
However, I do disagree. Since this arc is very important for the climax at the end of OT.

It is heavy focused on Touma, he is the only MC here, other 2 dont appear, yes you have Acqua going on and all, but Touma also had alot of scenes.
When Touma is involved, there is almost always magic side, and the magic side most of the times suffers from pacing issues IMO, this happens alot cuz Kazuma likes to write 2 volumes for some arcs, sweet, but some feels too dragged due to this also, shit is happening, it is just not interesting.
Worst example was festival arc around 9-10, for those arcs I m actually glad the pacing is faster on the anime, whereas clearly vol15 deserved alot more of love.

Was not saying if this arc was relevant or not for WWIII, just saying, it is far from the best arcs, it drags too much, it does it to give more development to other characters, and it pays off, but there are also times where it is just boring to read.

Being the only MC doesn't make this volume only focusing on him. Yes, he had a lot of scenes but, that doesn't mean he's on the spotlight.
I disagree with you about the pacing. Simply put, you are not interested in myth, religious and Thelema. For you, it's boring which is why it influenced your opinion on the pacing. In addition, lacking knowledge when it comes to the Aeon system and Thelema bullshit magic which is why this series isn't for everyone. Since Kamachi isn't going to guide you while holding your hand, that's why you need to search a ton of information on your own.
To be honest with you, OT15 was totally fine and got the best fight animation this season(Minus the stupid visual effects) on the other hand Brexit got affected by the creativity of the comedic director.

And frankly, if you didn't like OT17 & OT18 the home of magic and the birthplace of greatest magician Aleister Crowley, then you will defiantly drop the New Testament at some point. Since the 2 volumes are the introduction of everything.
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TomHazard said:
Playcool said:

It is heavy focused on Touma, he is the only MC here, other 2 dont appear, yes you have Acqua going on and all, but Touma also had alot of scenes.
When Touma is involved, there is almost always magic side, and the magic side most of the times suffers from pacing issues IMO, this happens alot cuz Kazuma likes to write 2 volumes for some arcs, sweet, but some feels too dragged due to this also, shit is happening, it is just not interesting.
Worst example was festival arc around 9-10, for those arcs I m actually glad the pacing is faster on the anime, whereas clearly vol15 deserved alot more of love.

Was not saying if this arc was relevant or not for WWIII, just saying, it is far from the best arcs, it drags too much, it does it to give more development to other characters, and it pays off, but there are also times where it is just boring to read.

Being the only MC doesn't make this volume only focusing on him. Yes, he had a lot of scenes but, that doesn't mean he's on the spotlight.
I disagree with you about the pacing. Simply put, you are not interested in myth, religious and Thelema. For you, it's boring which is why it influenced your opinion on the pacing. In addition, lacking knowledge when it comes to the Aeon system and Thelema bullshit magic which is why this series isn't for everyone. Since Kamachi isn't going to guide you while holding your hand, that's why you need to search a ton of information on your own.
To be honest with you, OT15 was totally fine and got the best fight animation this season(Minus the stupid visual effects) on the other hand Brexit got affected by the creativity of the comedic director.

And frankly, if you didn't like OT17 & OT18 the home of magic and the birthplace of greatest magician Aleister Crowley, then you will defiantly drop the New Testament at some point. Since the 2 volumes are the introduction of everything.

You got that right, I m definitly not a fan of some of the magical stuff, but there are magic side arcs I adored too.

Honestly I dont feel like this is the right spot to have a discussion about the LN itself.. but finishing replying:
I know about a good amount of spoilers for NT, if I was going to drop the series, I would have done it with volumes 9 and 10, was really impatient reading those, had to read faster to keep myself sane with how much unnecessary BS was going on (whereas the anime actually adapted it quite well IMO).
Not saying British Halloween was boring to read, quite contrary, but the series really shows its flaws sometimes when the arcs are too long, and to that arc, it didnt help we were introduced to ALOT of new characters, which we had almost no information about previously, it was enjoyable to read, but far far from the best long arcs in the LN.
I finished reading OT today, I can say it without a doubt.
I know who the final boss is there, I dig it, magic side when done right is quite good.
Jan 19, 2019 6:21 PM

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I don't know what's going on. Stuff is happening on screen so quickly, with so many new characters appearing out of nowhere, but I can't feel a single thing about what's happening on screen.

Struggling to get from 1 episode to the next, it's been really difficult to sit through. Really sorry, but I can't continue watching anymore.
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Jan 20, 2019 10:50 AM

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That Touma punch. He sent her flying.

Mar 27, 2019 11:12 AM

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I can imagine this arc to way more interesting in the novel..
Even for someone that didn't read it i can tell it was rushed.. many characters are there just for the sake of being there... the whole 'giving power to the people' and making 'everyone a protagonist' was pointless since all they did was watching Touma punching the princess... Gj 'protagonists' you were an awesome audience

Mar 27, 2019 4:02 PM

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Harus said:
I can imagine this arc to way more interesting in the novel..
Even for someone that didn't read it i can tell it was rushed.. many characters are there just for the sake of being there... the whole 'giving power to the people' and making 'everyone a protagonist' was pointless since all they did was watching Touma punching the princess... Gj 'protagonists' you were an awesome audience



everything is rushed in this season . this arc was 2 volumes in the LN and they made it in 5 episodes , that's not enough at all :")
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Harus said:
I can imagine this arc to way more interesting in the novel..
Even for someone that didn't read it i can tell it was rushed.. many characters are there just for the sake of being there... the whole 'giving power to the people' and making 'everyone a protagonist' was pointless since all they did was watching Touma punching the princess... Gj 'protagonists' you were an awesome audience



everything is rushed in this season . this arc was 2 volumes in the LN and they made it in 5 episodes , that's not enough at all :")
Tragic way of truth when the director doesn't know what he is doing. At least he will understand the mistake of what he had done because action series isn't for him but with JC Staff lost the fans heart into this series that was made 9 years ego I think.
Mar 31, 2019 6:49 AM

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I've been trying to come up with some witty Brexit joke throughout the entire arc, but I can't think of one :/
Apr 1, 2019 8:51 AM

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I really liked the final episode of this arc.

*So, the entire conflict was the result of the manipulations of Fiamma of the Right on countries that are under the Roman Catholic Church's sphere influence. Also, he takes advantage of the attempted coup d'état to steal the remote control for Index's John's Pen mode.

*Carissa basically acted as a tyrant and united the country...

*Union Jack is a very useful to distribute power held by the Curtana Original to the people of the United Kingdom, weakening Carissa.

It seems that we're back to Academy City in the next episode. Can't wait for the next arc.
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Apr 6, 2019 12:33 PM

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its always satisfying seeing Touma get that punch in the face last hit
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Apr 22, 2019 8:03 AM

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Hatsuyuki said:
I am so disconnected with this show like I'm watching it but I'm not feeling anything man. Something definitely went wrong in season 3.

I thought I'm the only one feeling this. also, the show always mentioned at the end of every episode with "when science and magic cross path, the story begins" but I couldn't recall any esper fight with any magic user though. all I can remember is ESP vs ESP, magic vs magic and I'm getting bored of this looped battle formula.
May 25, 2019 11:58 AM

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Damn this episode totally blew me away! Very impressed.
Jul 14, 2019 12:10 AM

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This arc is longer than the last ones and yet somehow it's also a whole lot more boring. The magic arcs are so fucking boring istg. Go back to Academy City ffs.
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Mordred's Brexit arc ends. Somewhat better plot and more interesting factions/politics at play.
The magic fight mechanics mostly still ridiculous since Acqua, Knightman & dimensional boxes that just fly. Basically over verbose descriptions that don't translate to visuals or don't affect fights in major ways. "Reduce to zero" seems another op skill, like a long range Touma hand, but works on both magic & science/missiles, horrible un-explained Kanzaki fights. Union Jack is the only interesting magic with that democratic power theme.
Intense fights with mix of bad drawings & a few cuts got decent animation. Touma's Curtana + princess punch at least was an amazing finisher. Reveal of Carissa's fake tyrant motives is good but could've been done better.
Now the pink pajama... Fiamma's back.
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Index III has been a trainwreck to watch so far for me at least, what a mess ..i feel so disconnected from the boring shit story and don't really care at all, many flashy scenes and action but they hold no enjoyment or entertainment value whatsoever to watch.
Unsure at this point if i'l complete this, think i'l just wait for Railgun 3 to get started ..expecting it to be massively better than this shit show.
Here is the thing.

Even tho Railgun has a lot more competent staff, it is still the same studio and they still have low budget and shit deadlines. So expect it to be only slightly better than this shit.


haha yes, it ended up being just a "slightly" better.

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ssjokg said:
Here is the thing.

Even tho Railgun has a lot more competent staff, it is still the same studio and they still have low budget and shit deadlines. So expect it to be only slightly better than this shit.


haha yes, it ended up being just a "slightly" better.

predicting is not your skill



It is called lowering expectations.

And you have no idea how glad I am I was wrong.
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What a mess, I don't even know anymore why anyone is fighting anyone anymore. People just seem to switch loyalty to the MC's side randomly and help him to punch and win over and over and over and over and over again. Ugh...
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I don't understand a single fucking bit in this arc. They must be skipping a lot from the original source. Man, i'm already in love with this series, i watch with release order, so i can enjoy it more. I even watch the entire movie even though i'm so confused. Sigh, i had a positive hope before this.
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this arc is really cool! i can definitely tell they cut corners though to get all the main points in. i hope this arc specifically can be remade into a movie or something in the future. all the story beats this season have been infinitely more interesting than the 1st two seasons
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Dat blast.
Is Itsuwa ok?
Carissa.
Kanzaki and Index arrive.
Itsuwa and Orsola-tachi arrive.
carissa survives the blast.
Carissa oppai.
Rimea.
Knight leader.
Acqua.
Oh shit! 3 on 1.
Damn. Dat rock to the head.
The queen.
Raise your flag!
Everyones a hero?
lol at Touma saying with so many protagonists, Index, Kanzaki, Acqua, and him are getting overshadowed.
Dat Imagine Breaker. FUCK!!!!!!!! Dat punch to the face. Carissa got sent flying.
Fiamma.
Touma saves Carissa.
Index?
LMAO at Fiamma telling Touma to contact Index's customer service department.
Call down an Angel?
Dat ending.
Stiyl.
Touma is going to punch Fiamma.

That 3 on 1 fight was cool. That punch Touma gave Carissa was too gruesome since she's a waifu. Hoping Itsuwa returns because she was barely seen in this episode. Not a good way to end best girl.
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Welp, this arc is officially as bad as Battle Royale or even worse than that

Rushed explanations of the fights, Touma's wherabouts and why he's in various places (Lessar car chase, train with Floris etc) are just glossed over and heck Union Jack was supposed to be a hype moment but there's barely any screentime on the British folk

Only saving grace for me is how well the William vs Knight Leader fight looked and ofc the TOUMAN PUNCH
Feb 4, 2021 6:04 AM
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They rushed the anime but animation was good.
Jun 25, 2021 10:29 PM

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Villian being grumpy at Aqua is strange, to be honest.. I mean, he is strange himself.. But also he's the only one person who protected her at first..
Well, it feels that only one episode in this season was eh, it seems.. 6th one, I mean.. Other than that - adventures in France before.. Aqua's attack, introduction him as a character, and later giving even more to his character.. Revolution in England.. All nice episodes with giving more time to shine new and old characters.. I like this season so far, really.. I imagine, though, that this season isn't too greatest to watch as seasonal, though.. I don't watch seasonals myself, so it's not problem for me.. But I can imagine how looking every week could make it not enjoyable.. Some episodes are only buildup for other ones.. Or some are weaker than other ones.. But if you watch it as a whole - it's the same Index it was, it feels.. With the comedy, mystery, and other things.. But well - it's to my feel and opinion..
Nov 15, 2021 1:55 AM

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I still enjoyed Carrisa fighting everyone but this was definitely rushed.

Looks like Touma is off to Russia!
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ssjokg said:
Kamiluck said:


haha yes, it ended up being just a "slightly" better.

predicting is not your skill



It is called lowering expectations.

And you have no idea how glad I am I was wrong.


Man, I wish the people worked on Railgun T also do the same with Index. Sucks J.C.Staffs clearly loves railgun more than index.
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the plot killed itself
Nov 19, 2022 1:40 AM

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Super rushed still. Fighting and action was cool though. And it ended with a signature Touma punches them in the face but this time hard enough to team rocket them away.
Apr 10, 2023 10:26 AM
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entertaining for once..........Also, love that this is basically a certain magical Brexit
Jun 3, 2023 1:44 PM

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Ah well the mess is over.. where to start? Nah just leave it I guess, as too tired to complain at this point. This arc officially is the worst one as of yet, yeah even worse than something something battle royale.

Knew second princess would have some GOOD intentions in the end, but no I already forgot why she was even rebelling.. leaving that aside, her fight with the trio of Kanzaki, Acqua and Knight leader will work as a great powerpoint presentation, really.

The usual Touma punch for the conclusion, though atleast they told us everything was the doing of Fiamma. That man literally pulled off Brexit lol.
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10:50 If that was the case with Carissa, I love her even more! I like noble sacrifices.

As expected, Fiamma was behind all of this. Carissa was merely reacting to the political situation between UK & France and unconsciously helped him with his ultimate plan to call an angel. Interesting. I wonder which angel.

If that country-level Union Jack magic existed in real life, I'm sure the British people would've used it to veto Brexit, lol.
Also, the fight was decent in this episode.
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Ah yes, the magic/supernatural cancelling abilities of Touma is back baby!
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Shit looked like straight bullying, why would I cheer for the scuffed Avengers. With everyone ganging up on the princess and her overrated lame ass weapon, I couldn't help but root for the villain.
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