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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Hmm another episode focusing more on buildup but with more about the aerial knights this time.. In particular, I like the characterization and focus on Keith's past. The first time he meets Roid is unusual but I think they have a chemistry back then as they do now. And oh boy, Hayate getting the lecture from Mikage. Same with Frejya. They needed that morale boost though imo. Looks like Kaname is going to find Mikumo... |
Stark700Aug 17, 2016 5:38 AM
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| Liked how Mirage got spotlight :D and Freyja in gloomy mood, the color costume and her hair accessories became black. |
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| Found this episode to be somewhat lacking. The bits with Windermere are boring as usual and things only began improving at the end of episode with the entry into the hospital ship to find Mikumo. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| It's episode 20 of 24 planned episodes.... no matter how much development Mirage would get...... it still wouldn't be enough to make the MiraHaya ending believable.... |
Hallowghoul said: The subbbers aren't even trying anymore the next episode will air by the time we get some subs for this episode. That's a bit extravagant to say since subs are coming tomorrow. If you'd check the website you'd know that. If it's that upsetting, you could also, y'know, pay for it and you'd see it on time. As for Mirage stepping in, that was really nice and unexpected to see. Mirage's feelings for Hayate have been such a detriment to her character so I'm glad to see her personality building finally. From the beginning Winderemere has the clear upper hand in terms of battle. I thought things would change when Hayate said he'd fly Messer's share but we haven't really seen the Immelmann dance since which is a huge bummer. Delta platoon really needs to get their shit together. Mirage and Hayate need to learn from each other skill wise, while Freyja and Hayate need to work together instead of one over boosting the other. |
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notanicywarmth said: It's episode 20 of 24 planned episodes.... no matter how much development Mirage would get...... it still wouldn't be enough to make the MiraHaya ending believable.... RIiight. New to Macross?  MC is oblivious to any sort of romance. Both girls had about same level of build up but it means nothing till and IF he actually realizes romance is real. |
AhenshihaelAug 17, 2016 1:22 AM
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| the bit at the end with kaname infiltrating the hospital was pretty good, everything else wasn't that special imo. but hayate and freyja should get back on track soon so things should get more interesting again~ |
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| heh...Windemere again, i feel like they even have more developement than Mirage. meanwhile Mikumo remains mysterious ..personally i think Mikumo would fit better than Mirage in the love triangle, just sayin |
NobodyKnow said: notanicywarmth said: It's episode 20 of 24 planned episodes.... no matter how much development Mirage would get...... it still wouldn't be enough to make the MiraHaya ending believable.... 20 of 26 or 27 planned episodes actually. still not much.... Don't get me wrong... even though I'm shipping Freyja with Hayate, I really feel bad for Mirage that she's been underdeveloped for 20 episodes even though she's supposed to be a main character. I don't dislike her or anything... but this kind of bad treatment to the character kind of points out it's the other girl with the spotlight on.... |
| Come for the show, got bored by the extensive kumo-kumo and loled about young couple problem between Hayate and Freyja. Mirage is too kind much like Kamelin from M7. The ending song was good but the more I listen, the more I ponder if some keytone have change in there, it would be much better? Like sometime JUNNA tone is a little bit too low for the intended effect. That's just my opinion. 7 episode to go. Let's see how they'll use it. |
discardia said: yeah and 6 or 7 more episodes is actually VERY little time to get through everything. there are way too many plot holes and conspiracies that macross delta needs to address before getting to the romance. so yes, there isn't really enough time to cement a meaningful mirage x hayate ending (whats up with mikumo? whose lady m? roid's intentions? hayate's father? winderemereans having second thoughts? etc) considering how little they address per episode. also they should be working on her development before even attempting that (like her jenius lineage). otherwise it would further stress the point that she does not exist outside of the hayatebowl. Well, they gonna do Macross Frontier style. Cram it all into the last 3-4 episode and call it well done. |
| im still cheering for Mirage to win the love triangle next episode is gonna be hype since it looks like the secret about Mikumo will be revealed |
| Another buildup episode. Quite boring. |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
| Nothing really happened this episode except Mirage saying "I love you" to both Freyja & Hayate. 4/5. |
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Fai said: notanicywarmth said: It's episode 20 of 24 planned episodes.... no matter how much development Mirage would get...... it still wouldn't be enough to make the MiraHaya ending believable.... RIiight. New to Macross? MC is oblivious to any sort of romance. Both girls had about same level of build up but it means nothing till and IF he actually realizes romance is real. I'M SAYING THE FOLLOWING THINGS NOT AS A FREYJA/HAYATE SHIPPER, BUT AS A FAN WHO FEELS REALLY BAD FOR MIRAGE AND THE BAD TREATMENT SHE HAD GOT - a under-developed main character 1. Hayate is not oblivious that there's something he has for Freyja. Nor was Alto for 2 thirds of the Frontier (in ep 10, he had his first kiss with both girls. in ep 15, he got serenated by both and acknowledged that the two weren't just rivals in the music industry, but for him as well) 2. Don't throw this explanation at me! If you watched the entire SDF you'll see that Minmay and Misa, BOTH, had good character development... enough to raise up a serious question about who's going to be end game. You must have watched Frontier, both Sheryl and Ranka had good personal development and good development of relationship with Alto. That isn't the case in Delta. Freyja may not have the greatest character development of all time, but it's a lot more than Mirage got. 3.Misa, Minmay, Ranka, Sheryl, they have fought to the end for the guy. Mirage seemed so resigned... ever since the episode with Freyja's birthday. The I Love You she said in this episode was weak and I know people who were left with the impression that it was not necessarily meant for Hayate, but for Hayate and Freyja at the same time... like she loves them both.... I didn't become a FreHaya shipper until episode 15 or so... and it wasn't because I thought Freyja was the best character in the world... GOD NO! It was because I really thought the two had better potential.... So I'm giving you facts as objectively as I can. Everybody ships who they want. All I know is that I won't mind if Mirage somehow wins. It isn't going to make me the happiest if Freyja wins. I'm not that much of a fan of Hayate so that I'd only care for him to be happy. I only want a good ending... one that isn't going to screw up the entire series due to a rushed or not-so-believable ending.... |
notanicywarmthAug 18, 2016 2:17 PM
Virtual_sk said: This hacking plot device is the only thing that baffles me. You see I want to know more about these characters like Reina but there is so little time now with the show entering its final phase. Maybe they’ll make some specials with backstories like Macross 7 had or I’ll just think eating live jellyfish will make you the best hacker in the galaxy. six episodes left. plenty of time to hint at their backstories. |
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notanicywarmth said: Fai said: RIiight. New to Macross? MC is oblivious to any sort of romance. Both girls had about same level of build up but it means nothing till and IF he actually realizes romance is real. I'M SAYING THE FOLLOWING THINGS NOT AS A FREYJA/HAYATE SHIPPER, BUT AS A FAN WHO FEELS REALLY BAD FOR MIRAGE AND THE BAD TREATMENT SHE HAD GOT - a under-developed main character 1. Hayate is not oblivious that there's something he has for Freyja. Nor was Alto for 2 thirds of the Frontier (in ep 10, he had his first kiss with both girls. in ep 15, he got serenated by both and acknowledged that the two weren't just rivals in the music industry, but for him as well) 2. Don't throw this explanation at me! If you watched the entire SDF you'll see that Minmay and Misa, BOTH, had good character development... enough to raise up a serious question about who's going to be end game. You must have watched Frontier, both Sheryl and Ranka had good personal development and good development of relationship with Alto. That isn't the case in Delta. Freyja may not have the greatest character development of all time, but it's a lot more than Mirage got. 3.Misa, Minmay, Ranka, Sheryl, they have fought to the end for the guy. Mirage seemed so resigned... ever since the episode with Freyja's birthday. The I Love You she said in this episode was weak and I know people who were left with the impression that it was not necessarily meant for Hayate, but for Hayate and Freyja at the same time... like she loves them both.... I didn't become a FreHaya shipper until episode 15 or so... and it wasn't because I thought Freyja was the best character in the world... GOD NO! It was because I really thought the two had better potential.... So I'm giving you facts as objectively as I can. Everybody ships who they want. All I know is that I won't mind if Mirage somehow wins. It isn't going to make me the happiest if Freyja wins. I'm not that much of a fan of Hayate so that I'd only care for him to be happy. I only want a good ending... one that isn't going to screw up the entire series due to a rushed or not-so-believable ending.... I applaud you for this awesomely detailed response to Fai. I wasn't expecting this, you won my heart. Congratulation. :) |
YK97 said: notanicywarmth said: I'M SAYING THE FOLLOWING THINGS NOT AS A FREYJA/HAYATE SHIPPER, BUT AS A FAN WHO FEELS REALLY BAD FOR MIRAGE AND THE BAD TREATMENT SHE HAD GOT - a under-developed main character 1. Hayate is not oblivious that there's something he has for Freyja. Nor was Alto for 2 thirds of the Frontier (in ep 10, he had his first kiss with both girls. in ep 15, he got serenated by both and acknowledged that the two weren't just rivals in the music industry, but for him as well) 2. Don't throw this explanation at me! If you watched the entire SDF you'll see that Minmay and Misa, BOTH, had good character development... enough to raise up a serious question about who's going to be end game. You must have watched Frontier, both Sheryl and Ranka had good personal development and good development of relationship with Alto. That isn't the case in Delta. Freyja may not have the greatest character development of all time, but it's a lot more than Mirage got. 3.Misa, Minmay, Ranka, Sheryl, they have fought to the end for the guy. Mirage seemed so resigned... ever since the episode with Freyja's birthday. The I Love You she said in this episode was weak and I know people who were left with the impression that it was not necessarily meant for Hayate, but for Hayate and Freyja at the same time... like she loves them both.... I didn't become a FreHaya shipper until episode 15 or so... and it wasn't because I thought Freyja was the best character in the world... GOD NO! It was because I really thought the two had better potential.... So I'm giving you facts as objectively as I can. Everybody ships who they want. All I know is that I won't mind if Mirage somehow wins. It isn't going to make me the happiest if Freyja wins. I'm not that much of a fan of Hayate so that I'd only care for him to be happy. I only want a good ending... one that isn't going to screw up the entire series due to a rushed or not-so-believable ending.... I applaud you for this awesomely detailed response to Fai. I wasn't expecting this, you won my heart. Congratulation. :) THANK YOU!!! :)) :)) |
| This is the second time Freyja was cut short of his confession (first time unintentionally cut off by the old couple and this time she herself put the breaks on) I’m wonder if that is going to cost her love life? Mirage is she finally throwing the towel? is her role in all of this… is to become a supporter to Hayate and Freyja relationship? What is Roid agenda? He and White Knight are drifting apart... Next episode Mikumo big secret revealed?! So many question 6 episodes left.... VF31Siegfried said: +1As for Mirage stepping in, that was really nice and unexpected to see. Mirage's feelings for Hayate have been such a detriment to her character so I'm glad to see her personality building finally. From the beginning Winderemere has the clear upper hand in terms of battle. I thought things would change when Hayate said he'd fly Messer's share but we haven't really seen the Immelmann dance since which is a huge bummer. Delta platoon really needs to get their shit together. Mirage and Hayate need to learn from each other skill wise, while Freyja and Hayate need to work together instead of one over boosting the other. Virtual_sk said: I concur!For me a Macross series should go over 26 episodes anyway :) |
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I_LUV_NALU said: I want to know more of Freyja's backstory like what really happened in her past, but damn Kaname with the running and singing without losing her breath. Mirage yelling at Hayate and Freyja is like she's telling Freyja to back off and telling Hayate to stop being so dense. Hayate and Freyja Forever even if Mirage wins All choreographies and the dances while onstage had something to say. That builts one hell of a stamina... Or I'm just making up reasons because I like Kaname... .......If Delta was about the triangle Kaname, Messer, Arad, OHHH GAWDDD!!!!........ |
| Okay buildup and episode, the songs are still good... Just who is Mikumo? OwO I have high expectations for the ending right now. 4/5 |
| Big improvement over the last episode! I legit got a bit teary eyed near the end. |
| Great, now the girls are gonna be in jail. Breakout/rescue next episode? |
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