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Jun 6, 2016 9:59 AM
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I think this episode builds towards the eventual climax battle. About time Hiiro undergoes some legit training because I don't think he was ready from the start.

Although honestly, I think the episode felt dragged.
Jun 6, 2016 11:53 AM
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I honestly dont think Erin is evil. I think she just wanted a way to keep track of information so she could stop the war, but Nambuuko used that as an opportunity to get information and then just frame it on her.
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Jun 6, 2016 11:56 AM
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That Theo person surely is an eccentric person. In his way of thinking, that is. He even never forget to brag about "bringing present" problem isn't it? LOL
I knew the reason training Theo giving to Hiiro is different from Giiru. Basically it's about magic, unlike Giiru's about swordsmanship.
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Jun 6, 2016 11:59 AM
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Hiiro doin' that Yoda-esque training. All this time he's been useless because he was focusing on swordsmanship instead of magic. FINALLY Erin's revealed as a traitor. Will her big, beautiful tits save her? XD
Jun 6, 2016 12:08 PM
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Hiiro does not know that he is doing a magic training!
Jun 6, 2016 1:29 PM
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Next episode is called "Fury Road"? Maybe War Boys will appear and kill everyone? Please?
Jun 6, 2016 1:34 PM
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I laughed quite a few times, Theo is really eccentric XDD
Jun 6, 2016 4:10 PM
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Wow, useless swordsman turns out to be magically prodigy. Not predictable at all.
Jun 6, 2016 7:55 PM
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Can someone tell me why this anime is so hated?

Jun 6, 2016 8:05 PM

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At least Hiiro is good with magic though I never saw Erin as a traitor honestly...
Jun 6, 2016 8:49 PM

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Hiiro unconventional training with old master and he's a magical prodigy XD
Learning the Magic wind slash.
Cat girl got fount out.

Kirigiri50 said:
Can someone tell me why this anime is so hated?

I don't know about hated, but it's an average series for it's genre and people are tired of it I guess.
Jun 6, 2016 10:27 PM
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Kirigiri50 said:
Can someone tell me why this anime is so hated?


It doesn't have much in the way of edgy hype-factor tropes(e.g. meta-narrative twists, sudden character death) and the animation is cheap, although quality has remained at a consistent level without the unevenness of e.g. some of A-1 Pictures or Toei Animation's output. Most dialogue uses a structure of static characters emoting around each situation, instead of changing and developing through it(not always a necessary thing, but it makes a huge difference in the feel of a show). The plotting and pacing is effective but it employs a lot of conventional elements. It adds up to most of these threads saying "boring ep but I'm still watching for some reason".

Guesstimating from torrent numbers suggests that its actual viewership is an order of magnitude less than the biggest shows of the season, but comfortably above the niche stuff. So, not actually a bad result, it just won't get any credit on MAL.
Jun 6, 2016 11:50 PM

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Wow, i liked this episode ^^
Jun 7, 2016 3:14 AM
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Kirigiri50 said:
Can someone tell me why this anime is so hated?
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Jun 7, 2016 4:47 AM

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Ha! I knew Hiiro wasnt just a wimp
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Jun 7, 2016 8:59 AM
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I dropped many anime of this season, yet I kept watching this show. Maybe because it gives me the nostalgic feeling of an old jrpg, or maybe because Hiiro has some dreamy eyes.
Jun 7, 2016 9:41 AM
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So what happened? I was a little tired when I watched this first. We learn Master Theo is a powerful mage. Theo goes on to teach Hiiro some crap while saying "deep" things that don't make much sense. Looks like Sharisharuu is going to do "one last job" for Nambuuko that her henchman apparently thinks is dangerous. I'm excited to find out what that is. Hiiro seems to be a worthless swordsman and a potent magician. However, he doesn't know the latter so he continues to cling to the tangible: the impressive swords and armor.

I'm guessing he'll learn of his true magic power in the next episode.

When I first watched this, I was bored like crazy because it was like 4am, but now that I analyze it in this summary, there seems to be a lot of minor things that I missed that make a difference.

IMPORTANT NOTE: This is the first episode where all the poll voters have created a pretty linear graph, starting with the highest station being "Loved it!". And no one (who's still watching) "Hated it".
Jun 7, 2016 11:17 AM

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5 out of 5: Loved it!
11 47.83%
4 out of 5: Liked it
5 21.74%


bullshit!!!!
Jun 9, 2016 12:08 AM
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WoW I think this is the first series in a long time that I'm actually only watching because of 1 character with is of course Sarato(best girl).
It took 10 episodes to get there but finally we know why Hiiro is so useless HE IS A FUCKING MAGE, WHY THE FUCK NOW?
Anyways Erin was selling information to get information i don't think there is any hidden meaning with her actions.
Jun 9, 2016 2:00 AM

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Its like he suddenly gets OP, and since he was so weak before it so... wrong
"I lost all of what you could call feelings of love. They weren't sealed, so they can't be released. They weren't broken, so they can't be fixed. That which is lost, cannot be recovered." Shiba Tatsuya
"There are no regrets. If one can be proud of one's life, one should not wish for another chance." Saber
"No matter what happens, no matter how crazy things get, I'll always try to restore balance." Korra
"It's madness to let others take what's yours and accept it blindly." Baatar Jr
"Instinct is a lie, told by a fearful body, hoping to be wrong." Zaheer
"Partner in crime, partner in time" Chloe Price and Max Caulfield
Jun 9, 2016 6:34 PM
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triplefox said:
Kirigiri50 said:
Can someone tell me why this anime is so hated?


It doesn't have much in the way of edgy hype-factor tropes(e.g. meta-narrative twists, sudden character death) and the animation is cheap, although quality has remained at a consistent level without the unevenness of e.g. some of A-1 Pictures or Toei Animation's output. Most dialogue uses a structure of static characters emoting around each situation, instead of changing and developing through it(not always a necessary thing, but it makes a huge difference in the feel of a show). The plotting and pacing is effective but it employs a lot of conventional elements. It adds up to most of these threads saying "boring ep but I'm still watching for some reason".

Guesstimating from torrent numbers suggests that its actual viewership is an order of magnitude less than the biggest shows of the season, but comfortably above the niche stuff. So, not actually a bad result, it just won't get any credit on MAL.


This is a great analysis.
Jun 9, 2016 7:24 PM

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That bitch got exposed!

Jun 9, 2016 10:31 PM

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I actually really liked what they did with this episode for the majority. It was a cool reveal that Hiiro actually had amazing aptitude for magic and that the characters were all aware of how weak Hiiro was.
Tbh I don't think Erin is evil, I can most definitely see the gang forgiving her by next ep's conclusion of the one after.
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Jun 9, 2016 10:39 PM

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Opps! It looks like the cat is out of the bag... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) LOL


10 weeks later, MC is still a piece of trash with some potential but they don't want him to use it because it can go out of control. fk sake just teach him something useful already. I already know the last episode, some major clash will happen then he will work together with the dragon having 100% control over his power and suddenly he is a wise world savior, I don't get why I keep up with this trash.
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Jun 10, 2016 3:30 PM

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Meh episode. Guess the old man was the only fun thing in this episode to watch. Looks like our catgirl got exposed.


Jun 13, 2016 4:06 AM

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i.......i just......this episode......i can't stand it anymore!

this girl right here. that girl deserve to tbe the MC here. heck i want to see her in another show as the MC just gonna be honest, and i hope it's a drama romance show with fantasy or sci-fi in it. like this show.......just waste the potential of it's own character......

fun fact, the reason why i'm still watching this anime is just because of one character, and it's Erin. well i kinda curious about the story a little bit but after watching this episode.......

meh...episode overall.
Jun 13, 2016 1:35 PM

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Hey the main character is actually good at something lets not tell him about it though and let him keep doing what he is completely useless at.

this anime is garbage
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Jun 15, 2016 10:46 AM

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Definitely an interesting cliffhanger!!
Jun 29, 2016 1:00 AM

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What the hell is up with this "training session" and why are we having this kind of episode when we're 3 episodes away from its finish?

And yeah what the fuck is up with them not telling him what he's actually good at and instead just let him stay deluded about being a "wandering swordsman"? This show really rustles my jimmies!

Maybe the production team set out to make an anime to test a viewer's resolve and to see if they can endure watching all 13 instead of dropping out?

Rubbish.
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