Phantasy Star Online 2 The Animation Episode 11 Discussion

drama_menck said:

This was quite cliche ..

L-Ryoshi said:
Sorry but this show can't help but implode upon it's own logic sometimes and it really is cringe worthy.
First off, they introduce PSO2 as a game that allows the interplanetary peacekeeping task force to discover and recruit talent from different planets to fight in a real interplanetary world with so called Darkers.

Then they specifically stated that Itsuki was a special case in showing that he had what it took to materialize his battle suit in real life, and hence was invited to participate in the interplanetary war, which judging by how they were interacting in the last few episodes, was NOT something that was in the PSO2 Game itself.

Now suddenly in the penultimate episode of this fiasco, we suddenly have ALL those friends of theirs suddenly intruding on their little planetary war like they were brought into a GAME mission???? Wait, am I missing something here? Why would their friends suddenly ALL acquire the same power as Itsuki and be fighting in a Non-Game war on another planet? How did they acquire their powers? How come that organization that Ai-Ai was in not detect them as potentials before this mission? Heck, how the fucking hell did all these guys even get zapped to this Darkers planet unnoticed by those ARKs guys anyway? That must've been some serious security breach in space....

Does this show even bother to take itself seriously? Or is it just sacrificing logic just to showcase everything that's suppose to be cool in PSO2?

mickbis said:


You clearly misunderstand a lot of part to the point I think there is in need of make a lot of thing clear

1. Arks isn't the one who create PSO2 as a Game
They do not recruit talent from different Planets either
some those so called "NPC" even said the "Sudden increase in unregistered Arks member" mysteriously and is in need of investigate
( happen in anime )

"the interplanetary peacekeeping task force to discover and recruit talent from different planets"
where the hell did you get that kind of idea from?

there is more to it about "Unregistered arks", "Earth PSO2"
and it will fall into the game story part so I will not mention about it

2. Itsuki is special case but he isn't invited until he know everything
It already inevitable because of his awaken toward photon
it will be easy for Darker to noticed him
Like it or not, he need to fight for himself leave him alone without proper understand or training and he will soon got kidnapped and become a new Dark Falz host

3. Dark Falz revival is state to be able to revived eventually after defeat each time under the right host
Darker actively find a right host body from unawaken Earthling since it easy target for them unlike Arks
also It is also a reality that this happening and Itsuki himself got told that now he is 'useless" cannot do anything about this


4. His friend is still using Game Character to assisted Itsuki
it also point to "my first answer"
You just "assume by yourself" that they also awaken

Arks also issue emergency statement and prepare for war
obviously there will be a lot of operatives went on a mission to protect the "base"
As long as they're under Arks banner they have right to participate in the mission

seriously you make your own assumption without even understand it correctly
and call this bad logic? sigh**

L-Ryoshi said:
Actually your "explanation" makes it even more confusing.
They clearly stated in the previous episodes that they aren't "In a Game".

How did his friends manage to come to his aid in a place that isn't "In a Game"

Also, the explanation for "they just Awakened" is pure bullshit. If they all had the potential to do all that before this, why the hell were they not recruited before?

All this crap about Itsuki being a special case then becomes a moot point from then on as well, since apparently EVERYONE can jump into a character in game to fight in a war thats obviously NOT "In a Game".

Seriously, if this was all a game, the best way to solve the issue with Darkers is simple, just pull the friggin plug on the servers and be done with it. All this Darkers appearing in real life stuff is pure bullshit and you know it.

Explain all that before you start slating other people.
I still can't think of this as anything more than a shitty narrative to pander to fans of the game.

L-Ryoshi said:


Actually your "explanation" makes it even more confusing.
They clearly stated in the previous episodes that they aren't "In a Game".

How did his friends manage to come to his aid in a place that isn't "In a Game"

Also, the explanation for "they just Awakened" is pure bullshit. If they all had the potential to do all that before this, why the hell were they not recruited before?

All this crap about Itsuki being a special case then becomes a moot point from then on as well, since apparently EVERYONE can jump into a character in game to fight in a war thats obviously NOT "In a Game".

Seriously, if this was all a game, the best way to solve the issue with Darkers is simple, just pull the friggin plug on the servers and be done with it. All this Darkers appearing in real life stuff is pure bullshit and you know it.

Explain all that before you start slating other people.
I still can't think of this as anything more than a shitty narrative to pander to fans of the game.

mickbis said:


Obviously they are not "in the Game" yet those "real people" existed and live along with Game Character even you could understand the meaning of this right?

You just "assume in your head" that "The Game and The Reality" are two different place while it really clear that they're "the very same place"

I will clearly put on a big connection spoil then
-- Someone make a technology that allow super internet communication ( Episode 2 Rina explanation )
-- They also make PSO2 as a Game that pre-install in their ESC-A Operating System
-- The Game itself can be a portal to another Universe where Arks Located
-- People created "In game character" While they're the character
It also appear as real as human on the other side
-- They're increasing in Number recently and appear as a normal human on that side so normal people who don't know the whole truth will not be able to differentiate them from normal Arks
-- Itsuki friend and Itsuki himself pre-awakening fall in to this type of Arks
They going on exterminate Darker like normal Arks do and not become a threat to the Organization so people cannot do anything since this also benefits them
They just let the Information Division do the gathering of this mysterious
-- Itsuki Photon already awaken thus he cannot avoid using his real life body to participate in war while his friend still can
"He already become one with his in-game character"
using game Character also don't mean they're safe
Aika did warn Kohta that they could get attack IRL the game is a Portal after all
and those kidnapped case

Also quoting from your last reply
"the explanation for "they just Awakened" is pure bullshit. If they all had the potential to do all that before this, why the hell were they not recruited before?
"
I did state clearly
and you not even read my explanation
"4. His friend is still using Game Character to assisted Itsuki
it also point to "my first answer"
You just "assume by yourself" that they also awaken"

come on stop assuming without try listen to other

L-Ryoshi said:


Still it makes no sense.
First off, if the game was a portal to another universe, why would Itsuki be a "special case"? Basically you're saying that anyone with a console would be able to travel the universe in the guise of playing a game. We all know for a fact that this isn't some sort of psycho-dive and clearly every player of the game is playing with their hands controlling a console, it's not like they're sending their consciousness into the game here. they're playing an avatar, one which they can change at will so long as they use another account(As Rena showed).

ARKs being a real organization in the universe is connecting to these "Avatars" via their connection to the game is using the game to fight evil forces in the universe. Let's assume that you are correct in saying that they are recruiting people from Earth to participate in the fight by creating "Avatars" to take on Darkers in the form of a "Game". That still does not send someone's consciousness to another planet/universe when you play your game on the console. Those characters created by people playing the game are still just that, characters in a game. It's not like they're a part of a player's soul or anything now are they? We've seen it during the course of this anime when people just log out or stop playing the game mid-way to do Real Life stuff. That's already proof that players on Earth aren't actually sending their consciousness into the game, ergo it's just their avatar being "sent" to the far reaches of the universe to participate in ARKs created missions.

Now lets ask some questions: Why would ARKs even create such a portal to another universe? Why do they need specifically to recruit human gamer avatars to fight in an interplanetary war UNDER THE GUISE OF A GAME? Why would they introduce such a dangerous force such as Darkers to the people of a planet (Earth) that are unprepared to deal with such a threat and don't even have IRL technology to deal with these alien lifeforms? So is ARKs basically an organization that wants to create a portal between Darkers and Earth so that Earthlings can come into contact with these evil aliens of the universe and be destroyed?

As I said before, the entire premises makes absolutely no sense. An organization from another universe creates a portal to introduce a planet of an ill-prepared species (that being humans) to take on a very real and dangerous threat in the universe by selling this portal off as a game whereby said species creates avatars to fight a war for the organization and kill said real threats on the other side of the galaxy? All the while said organization disregards the fact that the very real alien threat (Darkers) are able to come to Earth via said Portal to kidnap/kill innocent players of the game? All the while not informing the governments of said Earth of this major threat coming from said portal?

Come up with a better explanation for all this please. Cause from the way I see it, ARKs are pretty much as evil an organization as the Darkers are if that's the full story here.

Stark700 said: