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Sep 7, 2009 11:54 PM
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so this chapter for the most part had little word, it almost felt like i was reading a raw lol,

but what i got out of it was,

Sakura's and Syaoran's were about to come out of that capsule thingy; along with the feathers going back to the Sakura's: Fei and Kurogane were i think winning against FWR now, since Kurogane sliced him with Fei's help, but then FWR still pissed so he pulls the we are the same trick on Syaran's and make them sin, which in the leaves them trapped in Darkness.

Kinda what happened to Watanuki in xxxholic, remember that. and on that topic Where is my xxxHOLiC Chapter.
Sep 8, 2009 1:48 AM
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So this chapter basically confirms that FWR is either Watanuki or Syaoran.
Sep 8, 2009 2:27 AM
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I'm completely lost anymore when it comes to this Manga.
Sep 8, 2009 2:45 AM
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I totally feel like dropping this ¬¬

Anyway, FWR said he existed to resurrect Yuuko, does that really mean he's Watanuki or Syaoran? I'm going more for Clow's magic working wrong.
And the sin. I suppose it's about wanting to resurrect someone, that's FWR's and Syaoran's sin, that's the mistake they must pay for..

For me, it's starting to make sense... but I still feel like dropping. I want my Yuuko back ¬¬
Sep 8, 2009 2:51 AM
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Fai said:
So this chapter basically confirms that FWR is either Watanuki or Syaoran.


What O_O? Well that's different ... =O
Sep 8, 2009 3:49 AM
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Syaorans are being separated from Sakuras and others...

FWR's "you're the same as me" gives me wonder.
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Sep 8, 2009 5:47 AM
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I'm hoping by the same he just means they've sinned somehow, i dont really want FWR to bee any of them.
Sep 8, 2009 5:50 AM
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Fai said:
So this chapter basically confirms that FWR is either Watanuki or Syaoran.


Err...not the way I see it. All Fei Wong said was that Syaoran has the same sins as him and Mokona's statement of "it's just like Syaoran" could also be percieved as both FWR and Syaoran having the "at all costs" mentality to rescue the one they want (Yuuko and Sakura). That's is totally different from FWR = Watanuki or Syaoran. Of course, that scenario which you keep harking on could still be very likely, but I don't see it as confirmation yet anyway.

And at least the plot moved forward this chapter. The last bunch of chapters felt kinda stagnant. Looking forward to seeing exactly what will happen to the two Syaorans.
Sep 8, 2009 6:02 AM
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Well... at finall Sakuras and shaorans got away frome the misterious tube.. FWR wants to revive Yuuko... But where did shaorans go???

Waiting for chapter 231
Sep 8, 2009 6:08 AM

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grrr chapters are getting shorter & shorter.
and no, I don't think FWR is either Syaoran/Watanuki. he just meant Syaoran is as sinful as him (for killing so many ppl). and Watanuki/Syaoran would need a huge plastic surgery to be able to look like FWR now.

Sep 8, 2009 7:58 AM

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o_o ... the chapters are so short ... just reading chapters one by one isnt really exciting ... both Syaoran seems to be exiled or something


Sep 8, 2009 9:25 AM

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Is FWR a clone then? I am so confuddled...
Sep 8, 2009 10:50 AM

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This was confusing!! Did FWR mean that they're the same becaue they both wish to bring that someone back to life no matter the cost and in the process they've both hurt others? or is it that they're the same person somehow.....@_@...I don't know anymore...and since they tube was destroyed (I think it was) the are both Sayorans trapped in that black hole that appeared to restore the world?

Sep 8, 2009 11:57 AM

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Fai said:
So this chapter basically confirms that FWR is either Watanuki or Syaoran.


That or I'm going to go with the how Syaoran sin of what he did to make Watanuki came into existence. Either way I'm still confused.
Sep 8, 2009 12:24 PM

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im still confused, specially at the ast page, what`s up with the darkness?
i hope the ones that hink that wataniki is FWR are wrong, come on he has a problem, watanuki is just going to wait
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grrr chapters are getting shorter & shorter.
and Watanuki/Syaoran would need a huge plastic surgery to be able to look like FWR now.

hehe true
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Sep 8, 2009 1:40 PM

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Err...not the way I see it. All Fei Wong said was that Syaoran has the same sins as him and Mokona's statement of "it's just like Syaoran" could also be percieved as both FWR and Syaoran having the "at all costs" mentality to rescue the one they want (Yuuko and Sakura). That's is totally different from FWR = Watanuki or Syaoran. Of course, that scenario which you keep harking on could still be very likely, but I don't see it as confirmation yet anyway.


However it was spelled out exactly the same as when it was said that "Watanuki is the same as Syaoran".

And if it was not possible, let me ask you this - Why do we still DO NOT know the real names of:
Yuuko
Sakura
Syaoran
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grrr chapters are getting shorter & shorter.
and no, I don't think FWR is either Syaoran/Watanuki. he just meant Syaoran is as sinful as him (for killing so many ppl). and Watanuki/Syaoran would need a huge plastic surgery to be able to look like FWR now.


That or he needs to be a magician(which he, sort of, is) . Clampverse magicians are able to make themselves look like they want to look(ala, Clow). That or he could have just paid his appearance for some sort of wish ;]
Sep 8, 2009 2:42 PM

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FWR got slayed by Kurogane and Fai, but still manages to piss me of by taking the Syaorans to an isolated world... It feels like the ending is getting both nearer and further, since world reconstructions has been proved to be the number one plot reset in the history of manga. Let's hope that doesn't happen...
Sep 8, 2009 4:59 PM

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Fai said:
vindemon64 said:


Err...not the way I see it. All Fei Wong said was that Syaoran has the same sins as him and Mokona's statement of "it's just like Syaoran" could also be percieved as both FWR and Syaoran having the "at all costs" mentality to rescue the one they want (Yuuko and Sakura). That's is totally different from FWR = Watanuki or Syaoran. Of course, that scenario which you keep harking on could still be very likely, but I don't see it as confirmation yet anyway.


However it was spelled out exactly the same as when it was said that "Watanuki is the same as Syaoran".

And if it was not possible, let me ask you this - Why do we still DO NOT know the real names of:
Yuuko
Sakura
Syaoran
?


Those two statements are completely different! In this chapter, the subject of FWR's statement was the sins that he and Syaoran share. The statement you mentioned about Watanuki being the same as Syaoran, the subject there was the person themselves. In addition with the latter case, I want to say that the context in which it was said in also helped set in stone that they were one in the same, however, I forget what chapter that was said in and forget exactly why it's different. I'll have to find it when I have time.

Again, I'm not saying your theory is wrong (considering CLAMP and the hints left thus far, it may be likely true), but as far as this chapter confirming that idea, I don't see such a confirmation.

And I have no clue what you mean about not knowing the real names of these people. One, which Sakura/Syaoran are you referring to? And two, who's to say that "Syaoran" and "Sakura" aren't their real names? (<-- I probably missed something here which hints otherwise so feel free to point me in the right direction.)
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*goes bananas* Again the confusing, yet awesome CLAMP battle scenes! XD *monkey wants banana* Man this got wild... Okay just like you've already concluded people... Either FWR is practically saying he's Syaoran, or Syaoran has being like him... We already know Watanuki is analternate Syaoran, the replacement of R!Syao in his world... so that's not important... I feel that Mr. C!Syao will turn into FWR in the future...

So little words, yet a lot to say from us ne? IMO this will paint like a nice world next chapter and then it will grow darker darker darker to the point we start all over again... with C!Syao as FWR XD... Lol i'm just blurting out lame stuff... I'll shut ma mouth XD

And It's true... Why we dun know the real names of Yuuko, Syaoran and Sakura... Especially Sakura..... *shrugs*

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Sep 8, 2009 11:51 PM
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Arghhhh, CLAMP, you're killing me here D:
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Fai said:
So this chapter basically confirms that FWR is either Watanuki or Syaoran.


Not necessarily...when FWR said "you're the same as me", he could have been referring to "we both went back in time" or "we both want to resurrect someone who has died".
Sep 9, 2009 1:05 AM

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Faeverily said:
Fai said:
So this chapter basically confirms that FWR is either Watanuki or Syaoran.


Not necessarily...when FWR said "you're the same as me", he could have been referring to "we both went back in time" or "we both want to resurrect someone who has died".


This isn't the first time he's saying it though. He said the same thing back when Syaoran inadvertently interrupted the stagnat time in Clow Country. And Syaorans have now been thrown into a void...isn't that the same thing as paying the "time" within them as a price? Remember if Watanuki really IS FWR,it's entirely possible that Watanuki isolated himself from the rest of the world in order to bring Yuuko back. He even decided to pay HIS time as a price for his wish in chapter 185. As things are now,it's safe the place your money on the Watanuki=FWR theory,IMO.
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EvilSapphire said:
Faeverily said:
Fai said:
So this chapter basically confirms that FWR is either Watanuki or Syaoran.


Not necessarily...when FWR said "you're the same as me", he could have been referring to "we both went back in time" or "we both want to resurrect someone who has died".


This isn't the first time he's saying it though. He said the same thing back when Syaoran inadvertently interrupted the stagnat time in Clow Country. And Syaorans have now been thrown into a void...isn't that the same thing as paying the "time" within them as a price? Remember if Watanuki really IS FWR,it's entirely possible that Watanuki isolated himself from the rest of the world in order to bring Yuuko back. He even decided to pay HIS time as a price for his wish in chapter 185. As things are now,it's safe the place your money on the Watanuki=FWR theory,IMO.


Sigh...if that really is true, I can't believe Watanuki turned evil ;__;
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... Wow that chapter totally made my head spin. I'm not even gonna give it any thought of what FWR said cuz that'll just give me a headache lol.

I can't wait until the next chapter of Holic-- maybe something will be explained in that manga instead. >_<



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Sep 9, 2009 8:07 PM

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First thought when finishing the chp: wtf just happened?

Seriously. So the two Syaorans are no in a world with nothing and no ONE in there. What. !?!? Also I'm curious about FWR... but glad that Kurorin finally got his revenge :) [er, he did cut him, right? It's so hard to get what's going on with all of Clamp's effects XDD]


Sep 9, 2009 9:11 PM
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Remember in Celes, when Kuro-pon left Souhi behind, to save Fai? I just realized that he dropped Ginryuu to rescue him this time O_O

It's on Page 12.
Sep 13, 2009 2:56 PM

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It almost makes me laugh the way Fei Wong "died". It was ridicule. Kurogane flips the sword and BAM! it's done xD For someone so powerful it sure was comical... anyway, it took them a lot to get there so I give them congrats for that.

The Sayoran/FWR/Watanuki thing still confuses me, but I have faith in CLAMP. I think I still do.
Sep 13, 2009 8:13 PM

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wow, that's right!
In page 12 Kuro-pi dropping his sword to save his lover!


the best part in that episode |D

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no, srsy, clamp, what the hell are you trying to do?
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Nettachan said:
wow, that's right!
In page 12 Kuro-pi dropping his sword to save his lover!


the best part in that episode |D

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no, srsy, clamp, what the hell are you trying to do?


my thoughts exactly. THE BEST PART 8D

kuro-rin DEFINITELY dropped his sword, so I'm excited to hear about it in the next chapter. maybe we'll have just a bit more kurofai before the series ends? D: please? clamp? we need lasting memories of tsubasa. it would be a perfect ending...i don't even care if kurogane and fai die, as long as they get to say "you're my most important person" or something to like that to each other... T_T
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Faeverily said:
Nettachan said:
wow, that's right!
In page 12 Kuro-pi dropping his sword to save his lover!


the best part in that episode |D

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no, srsy, clamp, what the hell are you trying to do?


my thoughts exactly. THE BEST PART 8D

kuro-rin DEFINITELY dropped his sword, so I'm excited to hear about it in the next chapter. maybe we'll have just a bit more kurofai before the series ends? D: please? clamp? we need lasting memories of tsubasa. it would be a perfect ending...i don't even care if kurogane and fai die, as long as they get to say "you're my most important person" or something to like that to each other... T_T



I thought a long time ago that CLAMP only needs to do time-skip to Kuro-pi and Fai's Wedding and finish the manga. <_<

and NO. THEY.WON'T DIE. X_________________________X
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Nettachan said:
Faeverily said:
Nettachan said:
wow, that's right!
In page 12 Kuro-pi dropping his sword to save his lover!


the best part in that episode |D

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no, srsy, clamp, what the hell are you trying to do?


my thoughts exactly. THE BEST PART 8D

kuro-rin DEFINITELY dropped his sword, so I'm excited to hear about it in the next chapter. maybe we'll have just a bit more kurofai before the series ends? D: please? clamp? we need lasting memories of tsubasa. it would be a perfect ending...i don't even care if kurogane and fai die, as long as they get to say "you're my most important person" or something to like that to each other... T_T



I thought a long time ago that CLAMP only needs to do time-skip to Kuro-pi and Fai's Wedding and finish the manga. <_<

and NO. THEY.WON'T DIE. X_________________________X


Only 2 chapters seems like an awfully small amount for a "happy" ending <_<
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So this chapter basically confirms that FWR is either Watanuki or Syaoran.


wut where did you get that idea?
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Noooo Syaoran... thta cliffhanger though

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