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Dec 1, 2008 2:43 AM
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Eh, Wufei still acting on his own and getting owned.

Lol, wtf is Zechs doing?
Dec 5, 2008 7:26 AM
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Wu Fei isn't a good team player... Even in Endless Waltz =X
Jan 20, 2009 9:18 AM
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I love how Heero keeps talking about how he's gonna kill people, but never does.
Also, isn't it kind of weird that Zechs joined White Fang as Milliardo Peacecraft? It seems a bit... militant... for a Peacecraft.
Aug 29, 2009 9:34 PM
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The logic of this episode escapes me. Or to be specific, the logic of Milliardo. It seems like Relena's pacifist dribble is working, so you would think things get better. But someone in this series always wants a battle. A pointless battle. For the love of... if someone else declares peace, why do you declare war?

"Judo Chop!"

About the only thing I really enjoyed was Wufei getting his ass handed to him by a space fortress. Oh & Duke Dermail gets blazed. He really was a good villain. It is somewhat surprising he leaves the show here.
Jan 30, 2010 11:06 AM
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"Relena, I'm going to kill you" :)) I wonder when it will really happen to someone :)




Feb 23, 2010 8:30 PM
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if heero wants to kill you, you are the safest person in the universe.
i wonder if he wi actuallyl kill someone by the end of the series.
this was a good episode, looking foward to the last 9 episodes
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Aug 17, 2010 4:04 AM
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so the Chinese dude got owned, and the logic in this series is once again below zero
not that the episode that wu fei fight zechs trying to make much sense, or the whole the gundam pilot in oz stuff or the colony decision to create weapons for peace
Aug 7, 2011 7:05 AM
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Dorothy kinda creeped me out when she touched her eyebrows. *shivers* And I guess Relena's pacifist idealism works when you're siding with the dudes who have some actual sovereign and military strength.

I can't think of anything to say about Zechs that hasn't been said. The typical "idiocy to create conflict" that plagues the metaseries, I guess.
Aug 12, 2011 3:47 PM
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Making Zechs join the White Fang is plain stupid~

WuFei is like the most useless Gundam pilot ever. He continues being owned by everyone xD
Jun 3, 2012 11:50 PM
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WOW. Milliardo Peacecraft became the leader of White Fang. -_-
Heero, why didn't you killed Relena?
Dec 27, 2012 10:06 AM

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sayami said:

WuFei is like the most useless Gundam pilot ever. He continues being owned by everyone xD


lol yeah and people hate women for being useless in Gundam when their are men even worse than they are. xD

If Heero says he will kill you then your pretty much safe his plot armor will protect you.

Dorothy is fucking creepy. O_o

Hope Millardo won't die he is too hot to lol and his voice is sexy. xD
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD"
Apr 11, 2013 11:49 PM
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it just gets more ridiculous with each episode...
Jan 7, 2014 2:31 AM

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Damn you Zecs! give peace a chance!
Love and Peace!!!
Jan 12, 2014 9:28 PM

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amazing episode!

Heero being badass as always!

seems the Duke underestimated the influence of Reelena. what i don't understand is how'd she get such influence? she was just a daughter of Darlian.

guess the Sanc Kingdom really did have a lot of influence in the world.

Wufei being stupid as always. seriously you should have teamed with the other Gundam pilots. i still don't know why he's acting rouge out of nowhere. and he gets owned as usual. come on now!!

wow Heero was about to shoot Relena, then a miracle happen! it seems not everyone in Romefeller shares the same view as the Duke where dominance is the goal to achieve world unification.

finally the duke get's killed just like that. i have a feeling Dorothy knew this was gonna happen. she loves Relena moreso than her own grandfather.

and wow Zechs is now siding with White Fang and is now trying to fight the earth? just as when Romefeller was going to make a major change??

such bad timing :(

looks like he was influenced by Epyon, same with Heero. i do wonder if Epyon and Wing Zero are destined to destroy each other just like the system shows?

so Treize will finally move now, but to which side? Zechs or another stance??

only 9 episodes left!! let's do this!!!
Apr 2, 2014 2:12 PM
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Man Wufei, you're such a tool :/ plus getting your ass kicked was pretty fun to watch though.

And Heero, you can stop bluffing now. Relena was willing to die by your hands yet you missed your chance, or more like, changed your mind.

I find it surprising that so many leaders clapped at and respected Relena's speech. I agree a world of peace would be great, but I don't know about a world nation or how that would really work. Well I guess it's a step towards peace. Except that ending.
May 20, 2014 7:45 PM
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This series has become much too tiresome.
Aug 26, 2014 5:36 PM

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so this is what chars counterattack would be like if there was any god damn set up

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Sep 26, 2015 12:07 AM

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Holy crap there's so much flip flopping in the show. When the show writers run out of ideas they're like "we'll have them switch sides!!!"

They definitely could have cut this down to 26 episodes.
Apr 7, 2016 12:51 AM

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See where that gets you Wu Fei? A poster boy for a propaganda.

Zechs/Milliardo went from OYW Char to CCA Char in less than a year.

Whatever happened to space accepting OZ's "security"?

Looks like Treize is back from vacation. So much for Queen Relena.
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Holy crap there's so much flip flopping in the show. When the show writers run out of ideas they're like "we'll have them switch sides!!!"

They definitely could have cut this down to 26 episodes.



I agree. I still don't know why they want war and just live in peace.

So Zechs is an enemy again eh?
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Aug 17, 2017 2:11 PM
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EPIC EPISODE! Interestingly it gone from Alliance to OZ to Romefeller to WhiteFang in at first being bad then starting to be good after trying to reform, but gets replaced by new power.
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Aug 17, 2017 2:19 PM
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To all concerned, Zechs ain't believing in peace no more when the Sanc Kingdom he was trying to protect is crushed. As the title of the episode implies, Zechs is going for NEW LEADER here and is why he fighting as an enemy. Furthermore, Earth was the source of the conflicts, starting war and bringing weapons to space, so he siding with the WhiteFangs who claim to be with the colonies, but as the Gundams see it, they really no different than the old OZ. Each new power replaces the old and are the same thing until they realized they're wrong, but by then get replaced by a newer power who are like their old selves.
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Aug 17, 2017 2:23 PM
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also Funny how the Duke gets blown to pieces in a shuttle exactly like Noventa from the Alliance XD
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Aug 29, 2017 2:21 PM
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This is it! The Final 9 episodes!
Jan 23, 2018 12:32 AM

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So when they showed Relena's conference table from above, it was definitely too big for anybody to reach the fruit sitting in the middle xD The service staff obviously did not think this through when setting the table.

I wondered when Duke Dermail was finally going to bite it; totally forgot that he was related to Dorothy until she called him ojii-san.

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Heero, why didn't you killed Relena?

My question every episode.
Apr 3, 2018 7:13 PM

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The plot was always confusing but at this point is has became so ridiculous. It's like the writers constantly saying "wouldn't it be cool if THIS happened" (like positioning brother against sister) but they don't really move the plot enough for the jump to make sense.

I still like the show because of the characters and nostalgia, but my god...
Apr 18, 2019 4:00 PM

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I'm imagining the peole who created this show hearing the DUH DUH DUUUUUUUUUHHH!!!! Sound going off in the back of their heads when they dreamed up this stupidity. Once again just having characters change sides for "drama" now of course so Relena and Zechs can oppose each other, siblings battle!

Jun 3, 2019 9:34 AM

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WTF these plotwists... ridiculous
Sep 24, 2019 12:16 PM

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I... have so many questions. What the heck is going on now.
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To much politics problems!!! kekeke
Nov 2, 2023 3:29 AM

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Watching this show tires me out, it has become ridiculous with all the change sides thing of the characters, this is now you ruin Zechs and extend the plot in a really useless way.
Heero makes me laugh, 41 episodes of "i Will kill you" and he doesn't kill anyone, same goes for Wu fai and his cringe attitude.
It seems that when the show finds a way to end the conflict, someone comes out of nowhere to declare war pointlessly.
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I have enjoyed the show, it's very watchable but the twists upon twists upon switching sides upon switching sides has really left me tired now. The only reason I can think why Zechs would do this is that he has just loss the will to fight for himself but sees nothing left in this world other than to fight. He's lost his home, his country, his sister, his meaning. So now he'll fight because that is all he knows how to do. But it's all pretty dumb. This show has had about 6 different 'sides' to what is ultimately a one vs the other conflict. Which is actually stupid at this point.

Anyway I don't want to get too down on it, it is watchable as mentioned but I really thought going in this was going to be THE Gundam show. I'm watching them in air date order and thus far the only series I've really liked is Zeta though in retrospect I think I would like OG more if I rewatched it. These shows are just too long for their own good, the writing is never good enough to justify the episode count. The franchise could've been so much better if it was 2 cour a show rather than 4 cour.

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