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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Fear vs. Chloe, and class rep is helping out with the argument. She thinks that Chloe's lying about the crime's not clear yet. Eating hair is not related to crime, but as a living of a doll. That woman was there...She attacked the guy and Chloe helped him. She got the guy and class rep as hostages, especially the guy. With making Chloe unable to move. She wants Fear to be part of "family"? and fully accepting dolls? The common points are those who were dying soon and have cross like her? When Konoha said no, class rep. was back with hurt condition. The reason being her escaping from Class rep.'s partner (the guy controlling her) only saving her, and knew about that "family" woman because their job wasn't to involve in this matter. Fear has guilt for doubting Chloe and wanted Konoha to hit her, instead she pulled her faces. They decide to save them. The woman vs. Fear to save the guy or Fear joining the family. |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| Kuroe made some uber cute faces this episode. |
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| Is Kuroe series?! = =| "Please save me. As for the return, if it's only touching, do as you wish." (Pardon my poor translation) |
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| Oh my god.. I can't believe this anime is ending next week.. |
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edmond321 said: Oh my god.. I can't believe this anime is ending next week.. yeah i know. I'm just hoping this show, and Boku Ha Tomodachi, both do well with BD sales to hopefully justify a new season. It's pretty bad that I'm actually rooting for Hadena Subs to finish their translation because i know UTW won't finish theirs til mid week, after Funi/nico's is out. |
Amazing episode! I knew Alice’s past and how it screwed her up thanks to a buddy of miens from the LN but there is no bliss then to see the following, That is Alice being 100% insane in the brain not to mention that is well shown right there In the spoiler However when the shit went down in the spoiler About the fan service, the high mentions in the list
About Kirika, essentially it was nice they made a part with her that she comes home and has blood all over her only to flashback to the beginning to show what happened exactly before that. A rather nice directing way. It clearly shows that Kirika is locked inside a container with Yachi and that she looks really angry with a light source of only being a lantern. Typical hostage situation. While the best parts of Kirika were he blushing faces in the spoiler  she finally proves more than anything in the spoiler About Himura, Kirika's partner is a total bad ass with that mask in the spoiler Some other elements,
BTW end art in the spoiler Image Stitches are done in the spoiler |
Yumekichi11Dec 11, 2011 12:26 AM
| Another amazing episode. I second the sadness of this show ending! I kind of hoped it would maybe be longer Considering they changed the op for 4 episodes? Doesn't really make much sense. Oh well, lets hope for a sequel! |
| I'll reconstruct the pieces of chaos so that you may know the truth. |
| Good episode. Again the art superb the part when Alice is talking with the clock was nice(even i am not that sure what i mean).Alice craziness is awesome at difference of Lady "Bitch" she has something that makes her awesome and i looks like she has a crazy past....even better! So the people were going to die anyway and they had the cross or at least for what Hadena and my rusty japanese made me understand if i am wrong i will love a better explanation. Kirika "partner" looks interesting and i like his VA,i dont think he its dead but i don't expect him to be back at least not for this season(if there is a second season...hopefully.) Kuroe is super Moe his faces and lines make her compete with Fear but Fear is still one step ahead :3 Next episode Fear vs Alice looks like its going to get interesting,2 more episodes to go! Btw Kuroe fanservice,shake it shake it! |
raxius1230Dec 11, 2011 1:49 AM
| Great episode. I liked how they remained calm in the hostage situation. xD This reaction made my day. xD |
| Good episode, I wanna see Haruaki and the class rep kiss in the last episode. (^__^) |
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| it was awesome. Period. :D |
Golden_DarknezzDec 11, 2011 2:27 AM
| "Ogon’ po gotovnosti!" |
buckeymackfun said: Guess it got changed. Last it was not known how many episodes and I saw somewhere 13. Damn that sucks.Yumekichi11 said: edmond321 said: Euh nope, it says 13 episodes does it not? Then it ends in 2 weeks. :DOh my god.. I can't believe this anime is ending next week.. MAL says its only 12 episodes :x. Good Episode!! |
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| I wish they went more in depth with Konoha's curse. I wonder if her curse is somewhat the same as Sovereignty, how they can change personalities or bodies. I don't know which one it is. |
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| Wow, couldn't really bother watching this ep. But eventually did it anyway, guess it was ok.. still nothing awesome. Since it's so close to the ending (last ep. next week?) I guess I'll finish it. |
| The joke's on you wolf, the pigs are cannibals..~ |
I thought it was a pretty fantastic episode. Kuroe is quite nice. |
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(from my previous post)Noname00 said: (This part was happened in very early part of story and it was omitted too) She is currently staying on some empty warehouse on some dock. She was looking outside while drinking hot milk (her favorite) The outside view was mostly blocked by 2 large doors and sunset was partially visible. It reminded her childhood. A chapel in the valley. Honey sweetened hot milk. Yes, it was magnificent feast. I remember... The first home, nameless welfare facility. They didn't even give this hot milk. The second home, the current home, a nameless chapel or private daycare center. I learned this drink for the first time there. Occasionally serving hot milk was the most magnificent feast. Aha, fine house. Lovely old chapel. I was granted everything in that house. I met pastor and got name instead of numbers... Alice... I learned working, there was new meeting. There were sad moments. There were good moments. I learned how beautiful the sunset in the sea between valley... I made a family. "how wonderful if I could watch that sunset and drink sweet milk with her..." It will be great if she understands. Later, Alice sleeps in the warehouse and remembers more of her past. Which was what really happened in the past. a nightmare. Most of Alice's past got omitted in the anime. here are some of missing parts from light novel. (little bit more detail) While spike person was talking about Alice in the container, Alice was sleeping outside. she was dreaming about her "home" she had 3 homes. first one was her current home, big old chapel. second one was old walfare facility where kids were called by the numbers. and third one was another chapel, not the same as current home. the old chapel from the past. the place where she was dragged from walfare facility by a pastor. the worst house in her life. she was dreaming about that house... it was a nightmare... (completly 180 turn from her good memories) small and old chapel. pastor said "this is your new home" to new recruitted children he got from welfare facility. he lied that, he would run it like a daycare center. Alice. she was called first and named instantly. he said name would be needed. then you are A, Alice. you are B, Bianca. C,... he named children in Alphabetical order. children were happy not knowing that it was no different from number from welfare facility. Children did laundry and housework and had lessons in etiquette for seniors. When children made mistake, he didn't give spanking like welfare facility. The poor 'G' child, Galatea lost whole fingernails from her right hand in just one day. (he was a crazy psycho) dry bread and little soup were foods. (2 times a day) sometimes, there was hot milk with honey. it was a feast. Alice found leftover milk from kitchen and drank it and she was caught by pastor. he beat Alice like mad man and said he lost his temper. he said he was sorry. then "If you want it that badly, drink what's left"...pointig milk on floor "lick the floor clean with your tongue" About 2 months later, visitors started to come to chapel. visitors were mostly nice looking gentelmen. visitor was talking with pastor and looked at children with kind eyes. Alice wondered why she was disgusted by the pure and honest stare of the visitor. Elena, the girl-E, a friend who often looked at Alice's pictures and trimmed her hair... one day, she was disappeared. that day, What Alice saw through the window was... Elena was dragged by visitor into a car. and pastor greeted them with smile. for a while, food became luxurious. replacing Elena, other kid was transferred in. Alice realized this was not a chapel. it was a farm. only little female piglets were waiting for the shipment. In one night, Alice found pastor crying in the chapel looking at the big dirty cross. he was confessing his sin. Alice was surprised. does he have a remorse? there is no such thing as pure evil... he found Alice was watching, he said he didn't sell her because she was precious to him. he said he loved her long hair. (since Elena was gone, Alice did't get her hair cut) it reminded him of his mother. he said he would never let her go. he hugged Alice and starting to smell the 12 years old girl's hair. Alice was asking to the god looking at the cross high above. Lord, what is this punishment? Lord, why won't you save me? Lord, can I curse you? When Alice was in certain(?) moment in the battle, she remembered the rest of her past. in order to saved by salvation, ordeal was needed. for a salvation, ordeal MUST be needed. Alice (and Families) worships cursed objects. She accepts every aspect of them completly and their curses too. They will do every wish the cursed objects desire. Families will even gladly die for cursed objects if cursed objects need to kill people. people from families decided to die for Fear's ordeal and gladly died (and turned into cube shape) The customers who came to Kuroe's store weren't killed. Family members who wanted to be killed, went to Kuroe's store as customers. Also, Alice revealed Cannibal Cooker's curse.(Kirika mentioned corpses had missing parts). she gladly accepted its curse. (owner needs to eat human flesh) Alice said she ate them. (yuck!) (she said it wasn't very tasty in light novel) Family is such group of people. They want to live with cursed objects. They accept cursed objects as superior being. Family wants to support every wish of cursed objects. Alice wanted Fear to understand how wonderful the Families is. ----------------------------------- Here are more information of cursed tools used in this episode. Cannibal Cooker. about curse : owner need to eat human flesh. around 1900's Amreica, it was found in the house of crazy serial killer. police couldn't find the weapon at that time. it seems the killer was using it to cook his human victims. after that, it was in hand of neet in Wisconsin, drunken bum in Milwaukee... weapon absorbed hatred and curses and became cursed object that has special skill. like a macro(computer), it can re-enact motions from cooking, but it does several times at once. it can slashes/dices/pounds many times so fast, it looks the blade is vibrating and leaving after images. There are 4 known methods used by Alice. Cooking preparation with kitchen knife. Let's hack to pieces. Cannibal cleaver re-enactment [ crude and bold way of cutting food ] Let's cut in thin strips. Re-enactment [ making of very delicate long shape ] Let's do fine chopping. Re-enactment [ engrave on broken piece like a monomaniac ] Cooking preparation with hammer. Let's pound many times. Re-enactment [ handling of mincemeat ] Alice ate some part of victims. she said it wasn't tasty. --- 'the man' of bastille (バスティーユの彼). also known as "Il est dans bastille" in light novel (yes, it is THE iron mask) about curse : if owner keeps using the mask, his/her existance will be erased. in 1703, someone's hatred last moment started the curse of object. he didn't have name and wore the mask until he died. he cursed the mask which made him "he exists yet he doesn't exist" mask was passed to king's secret child that should not exist, to an illegitimate child between noble and commonner, to a baby from brother and sister... when owner wears mask, his/her existance gets weaken. people around the masked person will never notice him/her because they can't detect anything. even if they see the person, they will think there is nothing there. No, It doesn't make a person invisible. |
Noname00 said: OK I don't exactly understand this. You are telling they willing to get themselves killed if the cursed objects desires so? Was that part of Amanda too? Alice (and Families) worships cursed objects. She accepts every aspect of them completely and their curses too. They will do every wish the cursed objects desire. Families will even gladly die for cursed objects if cursed objects need to kill people. people from families decided to die for Fear's ordeal and gladly died (and turned into cube shape) The customers who came to Kuroe's store weren't killed. Family members who wanted to be killed, went to Kuroe's store as customers. So you are saying Fear does have an association with them with her past and in fact had people gladly give themselves up to be killed by her. WTF turning people into cubes with all their flesh and organs scrunched up into a cube bleeding out their liquids just makes me puke at thinking of the gore of that. Imagination of this series is just sick to do IMO. I don't get how Kuroe killed those members if they came to her store to be killed. Noname00 said: I don't understand what that cursed object is that exactly? Is that hammer thing or something else?Also, Alice revealed Cannibal Cooker's curse.(Kirika mentioned corpses had missing parts). she gladly accepted its curse. (owner needs to eat human flesh) Alice said she ate them. (yuck!) (she said it wasn't very tasty in light novel) Family is such group of people. They want to live with cursed objects. They accept cursed objects as superior being. Family wants to support every wish of cursed objects. Who would like the taste of human flesh let alone meat that is not cooked or prepared. Yuck indeed! I don't understand why would support something that kills you or your members. Makes no sense less they think all the objects are reincarnations of Gods or God itself. Noname00 said: Once again I don't understand how the modes reflect the attack she uses other than some of your mentions vaguely. Can you clear that up moreHere are more information of cursed tools used in this episode. Cannibal Cooker. about curse : owner need to eat human flesh. around 1900's America, it was found in the house of crazy serial killer. police couldn't find the weapon at that time. it seems the killer was using it to cook his human victims. after that, it was in hand of neet in Wisconsin, drunken bum in Milwaukee... weapon absorbed hatred and curses and became cursed object that has special skill. like a macro(computer), it can re-enact motions from cooking, but it does several times at once. it can slashes/dices/pounds many times so fast, it looks the blade is vibrating and leaving after images. There are 4 known methods used by Alice. Cooking preparation with kitchen knife. Let's hack to pieces. Cannibal cleaver re-enactment [ crude and bold way of cutting food ] Let's cut in thin strips. Re-enactment [ making of very delicate long shape ] Let's do fine chopping. Re-enactment [ engrave on broken piece like a monomaniac ] Cooking preparation with hammer. Let's pound many times. Re-enactment [ handling of mincemeat ] Noname00 said: TBH that is still gross to do.Alice ate some part of victims. she said it wasn't tasty. Noname00 said: OK now I get it THANK YOU! So if you are too invisible too long you will be gone or your existence is. That means it will even kill of your soul totally or absorb it. Pretty nuts, got to be careful how long you water it and it's amazing that even erases presence signatures. So that means magic or presence detection will not work?--- 'the man' of Bastille (バスティーユの彼). also known as "Il est dans bastille" in light novel (yes, it is THE iron mask) about curse : if owner keeps using the mask, his/her existence will be erased. in 1703, someone's hatred last moment started the curse of object. he didn't have name and wore the mask until he died. he cursed the mask which made him "he exists yet he doesn't exist" mask was passed to king's secret child that should not exist, to an illegitimate child between noble and commoner, to a baby from brother and sister... when owner wears mask, his/her existence gets weaken. people around the masked person will never notice him/her because they can't detect anything. even if they see the person, they will think there is nothing there. No, It doesn't make a person invisible. |
Yumekichi11 said: Amanda is from knights gathering. not related with the Families.OK I don't exactly understand this. You are telling they willing to get themselves killed if the cursed objects desires so? Was that part of Amanda too? the crazy bitch thought Amanda had doublecrossed her, and simply used the axe on Amanda to activated it. (she could've just gone out and slashed random people instead of Amanda) Yumekichi11 said: Fear never met any of Family members until Alice came in the beginning. (no associations whatsoever)So you are saying Fear does have an association with them with her past and in fact had people gladly give themselves up to be killed by her. WTF turning people into cubes with all their flesh and organs scrunched up into a cube bleeding out their liquids just makes me puke at thinking of the gore of that. Imagination of this series is just sick to do IMO. most family members had near-death experience and saved by cursed objects (salvation!) They devote the cursed objects with all their hearts. They would be dead if there were no curse objects. They worship cursed objects. They will even die for the curse objects. Fear's ordeal was 'solving murder mystery and realize how dedicate the family is', not the murdering people by Fear. Few family members have agreed to be a part of the Fear's ordeal and visited Kuroe's shop in random order. those people were gladly killed by alice one by one, and Alice made their body into cube shape. She also took some parts because her weapon wanted the owner to eat human flesh. in the end, Fear couldn't solve the mystery(the ordeal), so Alice told the truth (about Family and its wonderful dedication) with video. Alice still wanted Fear to be part of Families even though Fear couldn't overcome the ordeal. Yumekichi11 said: Kuroe didn't kill anyone. She just received hairs in the bag.I don't get how Kuroe killed those members if they came to her store to be killed. She realized it was from dead person, so she absorbed them with her hand as expression of condolence. Yumekichi11 said: Cannnibal Cooker is a giant meat tenderizing hammer with knives at its end.I don't understand what that cursed object is that exactly? Is that hammer thing or something else? Who would like the taste of human flesh let alone meat that is not cooked or prepared. Yuck indeed! I don't understand why would support something that kills you or your members. Makes no sense less they think all the objects are reincarnations of Gods or God itself. the weapon remembers cooking preparation methods from previous owners. however, the owner need to eat human flesh. that's the curse which affects owner. since Alice accepts every asects of cursed object. she gladly did what the cursed object wanted. eating a human flesh. Yumekichi11 said: about Cannibal cooker's attack methods. basically, each method was just used once in novel (except, 4th one was used in episode 10 too)Once again I don't understand how the modes reflect the attack she uses other than some of your mentions vaguely. Can you clear that up more Here is super quick rough description of beginning of battle in next episode. Yumekichi11 said: people around won't notice at all. OK now I get it THANK YOU! So if you are too invisible too long you will be gone or your existence is. That means it will even kill of your soul totally or absorb it. Pretty nuts, got to be careful how long you water it and it's amazing that even erases presence signatures. So that means magic or presence detection will not work? for example, you can be dancing naked in front of people and they will THINK there is no one. about the mask's curse effect. Lab's Founder Yamimagari Pakuaki warned Himura that if he uses the mask too much, his existance would be vanished. It seems Himura abused the mask for a long time. (maybe he used that mask to peep Kirika?) Himura has already 'thin existance' in the school. there are few rumors about him in schools. he is creepy. he doesn't stand much. he is quite handsome if looked at closly..etc maybe the lab's founder Yamamagari Pakuaki wanted to see what would happen if Himura abused the mask too much. after all, all the lab members want is an interesting result. |
| Thanks God it is going to end next week it has already lost its charm. |
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ahmed_great2005 said: Thanks God it is going to end next week it has already lost its charm. My thought exactly. First episode showed promise but the show ha since then more or less been on a steady decline :/ Also looks like that guy was driving an American car since it immediately exploded and started to burn as soon as it crashed^^ |
| I love how they can change the art work! This anime has probably been the most art work changing anime in 2011. Little bit of Kirika-sama fan service :D and little ol' Kuroe service xD |
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| "We just want to have tea with you.", WTF. First we had that Peavy Barroy (Bitchin') woman from the Knights of Gathering organisation who hunts down Waas and now we have this Alice bitch and it's the other way round; they fully accept Waas. So the common trait between all the victims was their cross (they were members of the Families). Good thing Kirika got away from that guy (for now) by crashing the car. I was a little confused when she appeared on the doorstep even though the scene in the container was still going though. On to the last episode and saving Yachi and Kuroe. |
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| Lmfao, this show is wtf now. I mean that car crash.... seriously? Spins once (or twice), hit's the side and explodes. Lolwut? Then she's all bloody when she comes out of it. Lmfao. Guess the car must be cursed too. Deals the amount of pain you probably wouldn't get from the crash. Oh and it looks like Alice doesn't really care about using Yachi at all. I mean, what the hell was the point of kidnapping him? Fear would have gone and fought her even if she didn't capture him, it's not like she's using him as a shield.... Lulz and Kuroe. "Help us and I'll let you touch me." |
Novynn said: God those clocks were annoying. |
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Karura_Jiinsaru said: Yeah at some point they where.Novynn said: God those clocks were annoying. Ending next week, don't expecting much about it. |
| So much fan service for me. 3/5 |
Paul said: No they made it stupid. It was supposed to have had its gas tank ignited due to impact but it was really badly shown. I got it easily. Kirika most likely did something suddenly to the gas tank. Anyway I see no other explanation other than the gas tank suddenly under impact explodes.I mean that car crash.... seriously? Spins once (or twice), hit's the side and explodes. Lolwut? Then she's all bloody when she comes out of it. Lmfao. Guess the car must be cursed too. Deals the amount of pain you probably wouldn't get from the crash. |
| about car crash scene. In light novel, the car crashed straight into utility pole at 60 Km/h(about 37 MPH) It only took half second. (no time to hit the brake) she checked the car, and found a little fuel leak. she thought, the car probably wouldn't catch a fire. front seat area was slightly crushed. Himura was unconscious on the airbag. he was bleeding, but had no serious visible injuries. perhaps, his internal organ could've gone wrong... but, Kirika stopped Sympathizing him. she was in more serious shape. She hit her head on windshield. many bones were broken. she felt warm blood flowing with unpleasant feeling. she had hard time balancing (maybe her head is smashed?) she didn't feel her arm (maybe cut off?) but she started walking. |
| Awesome episode though I am sad that it is ending next week. I want to know more about the mysterious accomplice of Kirikas and also I want more character development and lots more Fear. Fear makes the show awesome, not Kuroe :p |
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Noname00 said: about car crash scene. In light novel, the car crashed straight into utility pole at 60 Km/h(about 37 MPH) It only took half second. (no time to hit the brake) she checked the car, and found a little fuel leak. she thought, the car probably wouldn't catch a fire. front seat area was slightly crushed. Himura was unconscious on the airbag. he was bleeding, but had no serious visible injuries. perhaps, his internal organ could've gone wrong... but, Kirika stopped Sympathizing him. she was in more serious shape. She hit her head on windshield. many bones were broken. she felt warm blood flowing with unpleasant feeling. she had hard time balancing (maybe her head is smashed?) she didn't feel her arm (maybe cut off?) but she started walking. Pretty disappointed they didn't show that. |
| Am I only one feel bad that Himura died like that. I like him more than Haruaki...well I don't hate this main cahracter infact I like him more thanmany main male character in many anime now a day it just I like Himura more He only focus to what he care for so I don't think he deserve this end...did some one know why he being hate so much... |
| last boss appear one more episode |
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| The setup for the last fight was pretty awesome, can't wait though I really don't want it to end. Rofl at Kuroe's offer to let him touch her, damn she's too cute. She and Fear are a fearsome combo of moe. Good to see Kirika stand up to that ass and hopefully was able to leave that Laboratory group for real this time. |
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| I feel like i'd enjoy this anime so much more if i understood what was happening. Hadena subs make no sense at all. Guess i better rewatch this whole series in the future and hopefully better subs will be out. |
| Kirika and Haruaki ending up together is something I'm surprisingly fine with. Even though chances are very, very low. 4/5. The villains in this show are just... |
Mogami-kun said: Kirika and Haruaki ending up together is something I'm surprisingly fine with. Even though chances are very, very low. Agreed. A Kirika and Haruaki ending is what I'd like to see, but not one that I'll be able to, at the rate things are going. At the very least Kirika has secured her freedom (even if temporarily) from her organization, but I don't think I'll see her be free of her cursed items in the end. Another season for this show doesn't seem like such a bad idea now. |
I got c3 Blu-ray vol.4 Limited Edition on Apr/2 by FedEx.  I use PS3 as BD player  C3 Blu-ray collection so far  Blu-ray main menu (I can watch 1080p on TV, but 480i is the best resolution my cheap capture card can get) here are differences from Blu-ray version. click images for bigger size. |
| Blue Ray looks pretty nice. A lot of people didn't like this series, but I'm happy I stayed with it. One more episode to go, but it always seems to fail on YT Funimation. |
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| Well the episode was good. However I can't believe next episode is the last. Pretty much nothing is explained, not to mention a bunch of organizations are introduced and we barely know anything about them. |
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