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Jul 8, 2008 11:02 PM
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Okaaaay, well after seeing 11, I just HAD to watch the raw for this episode, and I do believe I understood it all. Any way, what the HELL!? This episode moved things entirely too fast toward the end. It's only been a few episodes since Nijuu Mensou's disappearance, and he's already back as a central character? I mean, I basically knew that Akechi would be Nijuu Mensou, but I really didn't think he would reveal himself this quickly. And from the next episode preview, it seems he's going to be quite prevalent throughout 13.

I still love this show, and it's still my favorite from the Spring season, but I really do think this episode moved the story too quickly. I had expected and hoped for more searching, and more of Chizuko being thrown into situations that require her to use the skills she acquired during her stay with Nijuu Mensou's group against villains that don't have anything to do with the main plot. I know that after a couple times of that, it'd get boring, but come on, who doesn't want to see more Chiko beating the hell out of people that a girl her age shouldn't be able to handle?

Well, still ten episodes left. I pray it slows down SLIGHTLY, and lets us see more of Chiko in action, instead of Nijuu Mensou and Ken having to come to her rescue. In all honesty, I don't think she needs the help <_<.
Jul 26, 2008 10:53 AM
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Panaruwho doesn't want to see more Chiko beating the hell out of people that a girl her age shouldn't be able to handle?[/quote said:

Speaking of "Handles", Loved it when she ripped the steel control lever off the machine. Even if she was that strong, her shoulders would tear from their sockets befor the lever would break.

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Jul 26, 2008 8:59 PM
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OMG, Why did the episode have to end like that. Stupid cliffhanger with too many things happening at the end. Reminds me of Code Geass R2.

I really hope the rumor that Live-eviL will have ep 13 up tomorrow is true.

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Jul 26, 2008 9:05 PM
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So amazing. But I what that woman said is true I hate 20-faces. Chiko still doesent know that Akechi is 20-faces!
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Jul 26, 2008 9:19 PM
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i found this episode to be a bit weird, especially how it all played out near the end. But it is still quite interesting to learn more about 20 faces.
Jul 27, 2008 12:48 AM
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Panaru said:
I mean, I basically knew that Akechi would be Nijuu Mensou,


Totally still isn't. He just posed as Akechi temporarily. Akechi's boat scene, boat driver surprised to see Akechi twice (and a severe lack of our friend Akine in that scene is another clue). Check the subbed version out, 'kay?

ANYways, episode not stunning but still very good in my books. I think it's actually nice to see Chiko lose herself and lose a fight. Say what you want, but as awesome as Chiko is, it's nice to see she's not invincible in mind or body. That's what won me over in this episode.

Still, disappointed to see Twenty Faces alive and well. I was holding out for him having died. :| Sounds terrible, but it'd make for a more interesting story. 'Sides, I'm not sure where they're supposed to take it now that he's back in the mix. I really -don't- want it to revert back to the first few episodes after all this, and that's what worries me the most. Well, we'll see.
Jul 27, 2008 12:59 AM
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heyhey Ojii-san is back XD

Kinda mix feelings on this episode, sure the episode is good, but it kinda dragged a bit =.=

Jul 27, 2008 2:48 AM
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Great as ever. Good pacing and suspense.


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Jul 27, 2008 3:05 AM
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NorthHawk said:
Panaru said:
I mean, I basically knew that Akechi would be Nijuu Mensou,


Totally still isn't. He just posed as Akechi temporarily. Akechi's boat scene, boat driver surprised to see Akechi twice (and a severe lack of our friend Akine in that scene is another clue). Check the subbed version out, 'kay?


Heh yeah, noticed that too and then it all came together.

I'm glad Tome didn't get killed. Looking forward to more.

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Jul 27, 2008 3:58 AM
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Remus_Lupa said:
So amazing. But I what that woman said is true I hate 20-faces. Chiko still doesent know that Akechi is 20-faces!


Akechi isn't 20 faces, the real Akechi is the detective that took the boat after 20 faces disguised as Akechi. I don't know how many times we saw 20 faces disguised as Akechi since the beginning of the series though, but I believe this was the first time.

Good episode overall but the plot is beginning to be a bit messy I think, they should answer some questions before asking new ones ;)

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Jul 27, 2008 6:28 AM

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Cool, oji-san is back! That silver haired girl is starting to annoy me, and again i think that was awesome with oji-san telling Chiko that it was just a bad dream, and now the two are distant again. I'm looking forward to the next, more power to live-evil subs XD
Jul 27, 2008 7:27 AM

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Whoa, more random plot twists. Well I love it, and I especially loved it whan Ken threw a smoke bomb.
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Jul 27, 2008 2:05 PM

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Hmm, the first part was totally stupid. How come Chiko wanders for 3 days under the rain without eating anything? It would be more logical for her to hide somewhere, lie low for a while at least. They should have cut that part and expanded the fight, which really looked compressed.
Also, where has Koito-san gone, and why does it look like everybody forgot about her?
Jul 27, 2008 4:53 PM

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Hmm, the first part was totally stupid. How come Chiko wanders for 3 days under the rain without eating anything? It would be more logical for her to hide somewhere, lie low for a while at least. They should have cut that part and expanded the fight, which really looked compressed.
Also, where has Koito-san gone, and why does it look like everybody forgot about her?
All Japanese girls are used to going days without food, it's how they stay thin :P

This episode was rather fast though, there is a lot going on suddenly. Looking forward to seeing how all of this will turn out.
Jul 27, 2008 7:15 PM

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Meh, it was obvious Akechi was 12 faces. It was interesting though I suppose, looking forward to seeing how it will all play out.




Jul 28, 2008 2:06 AM

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lol Would be funny if the second Akechi was Ken dressed up lol. Anyway, this episode was a bit lacking. I too was a bit surprised that 20 faces would show up so soon. I was expecting another 2 or 3 episodes before his unmasking.
Jul 28, 2008 4:22 AM

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Lol, I don't know if some people in this thread are serious, or are just making a joke out of the show now.

Anyways... Okay ep i guess, Chiko's fight was cool... But what the hell was up with those completely crap and generic sound effects in the OP... Seriously...
Show continues to go downhill, darn it...
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Jul 28, 2008 1:27 PM

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It was an alright episode.
It ended with a weird cliffhanger though.
Jul 29, 2008 4:36 AM

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But what the hell was up with those completely crap and generic sound effects in the OP... Seriously...
Show continues to go downhill, darn it...


o.O So I wasn't imagining!! lmao i thought someting was odd about the OP!

The episode was pretty good, though twenty faces' return was a bit obvious
Jun 12, 2014 8:46 AM

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Are you freaking kidding me?! That bitch did what she did because she was jealous of Chiko. A kid. Next reveal would probably about her being 20 Faces's jilted ex-girlfriend or something. This is just turning stupid now. It's like they're trying so hard to make 20 Faces and his legacy so mysterious. All this robotic supernatural BS is just ruining this show. I should stop now else I'll just keep ranting.

Ahhh I really hope the next few episode will make me forget this part of the story happened.
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Oct 3, 2015 7:01 AM

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Glad Tome is okay, and if I remember correctly, this sadly marks the point where the fat detective guy (his name escapes me) starts to get more screen time then I feel he deserves.

Siing said:
Anyways... Okay ep i guess, Chiko's fight was cool... But what the hell was up with those completely crap and generic sound effects in the OP... Seriously...
Show continues to go downhill, darn it...


So the entire show is going downhill, because there are extra sound effects in the OP.

Okay.....
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Mar 11, 2016 8:06 PM

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Lol Akechi really is Oji-san? I thought he was his twin brother or something.
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