| In other words, what are some of our shared 9s to 10s ratings? So far the only agreeable Anime that many elitist share are Ghost in the Shell Monster Rurouni Kenshin: Tsuiokuhen Cowboy Bebop Seirei no Moribito Rose of Versailles Because we know everything other anime on this site is garbage. |
ddw1aMay 28, 2012 10:54 PM
| Baccano? FMA: Brotherhood? Tatami Galaxy? Nana? Master Keaton? Kino no Tabi? Nodame Cantabile? Welcome to the NHK? Princess Mononoke? Anyone strongly disagrees with those suggestions? |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Higashi_no_Kaze said: Baccano? No FMA: Brotherhood? Uhh no... Tatami Galaxy? Maybe Nana? No Master Keaton? I don't know Kino no Tabi? Maybe, but I don't know. It got into CnC, so I am sure it has some merit Nodame Cantabile? Urgh can't say Welcome to the NHK? Perhaps Princess Mononoke? I think so. Anyone strongly disagrees with those suggestions? |
Higashi_no_Kaze said: Baccano Kino no Tabi? Princess Mononoke? Those would be my picks from the list. Havent seen nana, master keaton, cantabile. BTW kaiserpingvin doesnt like bebop :P hell, I think you'll have a really hard time coming up with a list that everyone agrees with. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
koreye said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: Baccano Kino no Tabi? Princess Mononoke? Those would be my picks from the list. Havent seen nana, master keaton, cantabile. BTW kaiserpingvin doesnt like bebop :P hell, I think you'll have a really hard time coming up with a list that everyone agrees with. Not everyone, MANY For Manga, i am just going to say Berserk, Monster, and 20th Century Boys |
Confucius said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: Baccano? No FMA: Brotherhood? Uhh no... Tatami Galaxy? Maybe Nana? No Master Keaton? I don't know Kino no Tabi? Maybe, but I don't know. It got into CnC, so I am sure it has some merit Nodame Cantabile? Urgh can't say Welcome to the NHK? Perhaps Princess Mononoke? I think so. Anyone strongly disagrees with those suggestions? If you're gonna be that strict than I have to disregard Seirei no Moribito, Aria and Kenshin from your list too. I wanted to be tolerant, but an eye for an eye :P. So I don't agree with Aria and Moribito because even though I find them good, they're not as super awesome elitist. And Kenshin I'll deny just to annoy you :P. And are you serious when you name the CnC Club as an argument? ^^ For Manga clearly Gantz must(!) be involved, and Berserk, Liar Game and Eden: It's an endless World. And Bebop must be on the list. From my favorite animes I believe Bebop and LOGH to be the only ones that are ultimately and objectively great. All other series are a matter of taste and if I give them a 8,9 or 10 is mostly preference, but those two series really ARE 10's :P. /fanboymode |
AlcoholicideMay 23, 2011 1:19 PM
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Fine I will let Baccano to be on the list even though i hate it. I will take your word with Kino For CnC...unfortunately yes |
| Oh, and Mobile Suit Gundam. Whether we like it or not, at least any elitist worth his salt respect it for being so iconic and influential. Plus everyone loves Char (I can't hear you, CCA never happened LALALA) and ACGUY. |
| I'll give you the influence part, but besides that I wasn't impressed with Mobile Suit Gundam. Char was okay though, as were some of the episodes. But for someone like me who doesn't like mecha, and especially mecha fights, it wasn't too enjoyable. But we could include it, I won't object. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Higashi_no_Kaze said: Baccano? FMA: Brotherhood? Tatami Galaxy? Nana? Master Keaton? Kino no Tabi? Nodame Cantabile? Welcome to the NHK? Princess Mononoke? Anyone strongly disagrees with those suggestions? I'm just glad someone pointed out Master Keaton, highly underrated title. |
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| Especially Underwatched too! |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| It's a shame that no one has mentioned Utena yet :\ |
burntlettuce said: It's a shame that no one has mentioned Utena yet : It's because I haven't seen it yet |
burntlettuce said: Let's just save us all the embarrassment and pretend I did.It's a shame that no one has mentioned Utena yet : |
koreye said: BTW kaiserpingvin doesnt like bebop :P hell, I think you'll have a really hard time coming up with a list that everyone agrees with. Well I loathe it, but it's competently made in everything but story. Sato Dai is weird, I don't get how he can write shite like Ergo Proxy and Bebop and then, suddenly, SAC. I guess with good material to adapt he has the sense to avoid injecting any of his own tripe ideas. Confucius said: Berserk, ..., 20th Century Boys Berserk is the Rocky Horror Picture Show of manga. It's fun because it's cheesy and crazy. It's not actually good except a few volumes between Golden Arc and now, and the art. 20th Century Boys is a string of cool ideas which sadly do not have any connexions. It does not have the coherency of Monster or the same fun issues to ponder. All it has is GUUUTALALA SUUDALALA and frustrating fucking around with the audience. (I don't care who Friend is, for no matter who he'd turn out to be, it'd be uninteresting and not change anything. That turned out to be the point, but if it was, why not show us instead of those forty fucking pointless cliffhangers which did not actually leave you at the cliff hanging, but pointed at the cliff and said, "if we'd be closer we could be hanging off that now!") I still watched the movies like thrice, I have no idea why. I submit Hiroki Endo's short stories, The World Is Mine and Witches as actual elitist manga. |
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| Anything by Naoki Urasawa basically. The 20th Century Boys movies were a strange experience for me. I bought them all, the first one twice and adored them. Hell, I even have a movie poster above my monitor. But at the same time I think they're terrible. My normalfag friends love them though. They started reading the manga and everything, though they won't try anything else. Paprika, Jin Roh, Grave of the Fireflies, Haibane Renmei, Serial Experiments Lain and Planetes are pretty high rated too. Some newer stuff that I enjoyed were Sora No Woto, Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 and Eden of the East but I don't think they're as universally regarded as great. |
| @Kaiserpingvin: Bebop wasn't supposed to have a storyline, it's the same as criticizing Mushishi for no coherent story ^^. I definitely agree on Hiroki Endo's short stories. Great literature. @alicedragon: Eden of the East was pretty nice, but the movies completely ruined it and as the movies were planned from the beginning I can't help but see the show in a different, worse light than before :/ Most of the others I find to be good, but not that exceptional (except Planetes), but I wouldnt mind adding them. Though I think from Satoshi Kons movies Paprika is not the best. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| @alicedragon I disagree, I am still trying to finish Pluto... |
| how about we make a list, maybe set up some rules and vote on it? Sounds a bit gay but its going to be fun...? |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
Higashi_no_Kaze said: From what I remember him saying about it before, his main gripe was that the episodic stories were so painfully cliché. Which I can't deny.@Kaiserpingvin: Bebop wasn't supposed to have a storyline, it's the same as criticizing Mushishi for no coherent story ^^. I definitely agree with 20CB though. It's really great at building up a mystery and pushing cliffhangers left and right, but there's just too much of it, and the ending isn't anywhere near good enough to wrap it all up convincingly. It's sort of like getting pumped up for a Christmas present and having a item from your wish list crossed off one by one until only the top wish remains, only to find out it's a pair of socks. Monster did pretty much the same recipe but managed to turn out a far better result in the end. koreye said: I dunno, voting on lists sounds a bit conformist and plebeian, don't you think? how about we make a list, maybe set up some rules and vote on it? Sounds a bit gay but its going to be fun...? besides, much of the point of being snotty elitists is to worship one's own taste as the one objective and infallible truth, so making a collective lists with the parleying that entails would sort of defeat the purpose of this brand of elitism. |
Baman said: koreye said: I dunno, voting on lists sounds a bit conformist and plebeian, don't you think? how about we make a list, maybe set up some rules and vote on it? Sounds a bit gay but its going to be fun...? besides, much of the point of being snotty elitists is to worship one's own taste as the one objective and infallible truth, so making a collective lists with the parleying that entails would sort of defeat the purpose of this brand of elitism. Ah...that explains why I felt guilty saying that. Probably my inner elitist screaming in disgust. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| So we could just give a certain number of series that each person can add (like 5 or so) and no one is allowed to question those series, not even other members of the club. And I haven't seen/read 20CB, but I doubt the ending can be more disappointing than the ending of Monster :/ And I agree on the cliché stories (partly) in Bebop, but that's just another thing I loved about it. It took clichéd story ideas and executed them so amazingly that I'd call it reinventing them. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| bebop, near perfection in all depts (especially direction), except for inconsistent quality of story in episodes (a few were even mediocre, i dare say), and also the fact that it did not even utilize half of its potential. But I mean that in a good way. It has one of the absolute best concepts in anime and could have done much more with it. I wouldn't exactly call the stories "cliched" because i think that was a conscious quality of the series. I think it was more of a result of how it brought in all these conventions from certain parts of different pop-cultures and pulp-fiction. And I agree with HIgashi, that was executed well. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| Personally I believe the likes of Utena and Rose of Versailles should be added and accepted They are shoujo for the elites such as ourselves. |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: So we could just give a certain number of series that each person can add (like 5 or so) and no one is allowed to question those series, not even other members of the club. My suggestion still stands. The number of series one can choose can increase with rank and the amount of time spent in the club or so :P |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| I should've probably mentioned that I am planning to make this list as a club entry requirement. |
| 1. Ghost in the shell. I mean all the anime. 2. Cowboy bebop. 3. Kino no tabi - this is it. Forget all the superficail "deep" anime people seem to call "classic masterpieces" (not taking any names), this is the real deal. This is how philosophical ideas should be conveyed. 4. Pom Poko. If there is an elitist Ghibli movie, it would be either this or Only yesterday. 5. Monster. Maybe rurouni kenshin OVA. I'd also support master keaton although i've only seen 4 eps and some bits and pieces from when my brother was watching it. Its the kind of intelligent show none of the mainstream noobs will ever appreciate. |
eyerokJun 13, 2011 3:18 AM
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
koreye said: 1. Ghost in the shell. I mean all the anime. 2. Cowboy bebop. 3. Kino no tabi - this is it. Forget all the superficail "deep" anime people seem to call "classic masterpieces" (not taking any names), this is the real deal. This is how philosophical ideas should be conveyed. 4. Pom Poko. If there is an elitist Ghibli movie, it would be either this or Only yesterday. 5. Monster. Maybe rurouni kenshin. I'd also support master keaton although i've only seen 4 eps and some bits and pieces from when my brother was watching it. Its the kind of intelligent show none of the mainstream noobs will ever appreciate. I would sign this list anytime. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| 1. Monster 2. FLCL 3. Tatami Galaxy 4. Revolutionary Girl Utena 5. Baccano! Impossible to refute. |
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| I think we should just make a list of the quality and deep series, easier to reach a consensus |
Kaiserpingvin said: 1. Monster 2. FLCL 3. Tatami Galaxy 4. Revolutionary Girl Utena 5. Baccano! Impossible to refute. Rofl, FLCL. Sorry but I hate the show, gave it a generous 4. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Im-possible. That im, it is important to note, I see how it can be confusing if you miss it. |
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| How about we do a nomination thread thing like in CnC? |
| No No no no no no. No. No. |
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| Why must people oppose all of my suggestions? |
| 1. Vinland Saga 2. Berserk 3. Mushishi 4. Sanctuary 5. Seirei No Moribito |
| As long as I don't see Zeta Gundam or sth on that list... Anyway how about: -Master Keaton -Haibane Renmei -Planetes -Area 88 -Welcome to the NHK -Chi's sweet home. :P |
| I'll add in Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam in the suggestion box for consideration, I found it to be superior than the original. |
kanon-chanOct 1, 2011 4:51 AM
Alas86 said: As long as I don't see Zeta Gundam or sth on that list... Anyway how about: -Master Keaton -Haibane Renmei -Planetes -Area 88 -Welcome to the NHK -Chi's sweet home. :P Great stuff. I hope you mean the OVA of Area 88 :P Oh, and I want Gallery Fake on that list. If you haven't seen it, watch it :P |
AlcoholicideOct 1, 2011 6:54 AM
| I probably regret this post by now. |
kanon-chan said: Zeta Gundam sucked... like really...I'll add in Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam in the suggestion box for consideration, I found it to be superior than the original. Higashi_no_Kaze said: Yes obviously the OVA.Great stuff. I hope you mean the OVA of Area 88 :P PS And I'll keep the Gallery Fake rec in mind, thanks. |
Alas86 said: kanon-chan said: Zeta Gundam sucked... like really...I'll add in Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam in the suggestion box for consideration, I found it to be superior than the original. Not a Gundam fan I see, would you accept something like Super Dimensional Fortress Macross then, I saw you rated it quite highly on your list. |
kanon-chan said: No, not really, well not unless that Gundam is called "War in the Pocket", plus I liked the original Gundam more than Zeta anyway... and no I didn't rate Macross highly, I rated DYRL? highly, I was rather disappointed with the original Macross actually. :-\Not a Gundam fan I see, would you accept something like Super Dimensional Fortress Macross then, I saw you rated it quite highly on your list. |
| Added Kino and Master Keaton |
| I was about to say that I completely support master keaton as elitist, despite the fact that I wont give it more than an 8 overall. It has all the makings of an elitist anime, despite all its outside simplicity. just two eps left. |
eyerokOct 14, 2011 11:22 PM
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| I definitely support the new additions! |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| And noone said VOTOMS?.... :o VOTOMS is like a grandfather to all realistic mecha anime. It would've been perfect without "omg! supabeeeemz destroyin' da fleeetz" near the end though. And music could've been better. Srsly VOTOMS needs a place on "Elitist accepted" animu - hell it's even better than Battletech anime! Like 15000 times better! :D |
| Battletech? what the hell is that? |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| @koreye Universum where humans build mechs (not mecha - mechs: 20-100 ton, 2-4 legs, tons of armor and guns [BIG guns], their speed varies from like ~20 - over 100 km/h), have ftl ships and live in several "great houses" Steiner, Davion, Kurita, Marik, Liao (each of them is a fkn EMPIRE), there's our Terra... And there's neverending conflict. And treachery is used just as many times as military. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battletech BTW - Mechwarrior 4: Mercenaries - game based on BT universe - can be downloaded FOR FREE from MekTek - http://www.mektek.net/ And this is not a piracy! MekTek got blessing from Microsof/FASA to release it! :D ...oh - and there's incoming Mechwarrior Online game. The word is - it'll be F2P! Huzzah! Too bad BT anime was CRAP :| |
orzel286Nov 7, 2011 12:18 PM
| ohk. Not much of a mecha fan. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
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