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Do you like a further increase in dark psychological topics and drama this season?

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Yesterday, 11:42 AM
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I think most viewers liked MyGO and most fans of the franchise were somehow used to the fact that the show became much more psychological and dramatic than the standard BanG Dream story. But what about the Ave Mujika? What do you personally think about even more dark and psychological themes in this season? Do you think they are still working well and in line with the creators' desire to write a realistic psychological story about young experiences, or is it already crossing the lines and too cheesy and/or melodramatic to take it seriously?

I’m not trying to attack the show or defend it. I’m just curious about how people are looking at this, especially after most of the episodes have been released so far and the director’s open admission that they’ve deliberately raised a whole spectrum of dark psychological themes like:

RobertBobertYesterday, 11:52 AM
Yesterday, 12:32 PM
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My vote goes to liking it, yes.

Considering the background/history on how the band was formed and all the members' past, I think it was kind of a "Must" to go this dark/deep in terms of psichological and dramatic plot.

After all, while not common, it's also a representation of some real scenarios in life. And in the world of music, I would think this is more common than we think about. Bands breaking up due to members "swinging in different directions", frictions between them, personal dramas affecting the groups... All these may actually be the daily problems of most real world bands.

So yes, escaping the "happy life" and the "overcoming issues so easily" routes feels somewhat refreshing.
Yesterday, 12:34 PM
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MyGo and Ave are my first bang dream shows so I can’t speak on the change of tone as a franchise but in terms of in general for the genre, I love it, I like a lot of the other music shows that are mostly sol/cgdct with a little drama but nothing too heavy but definitely prefer the direction and tone of MyGo/Ave (and girls band cry) to stuff like love live etc, I don’t think they’ve gone too far and i actually think they’ve handled these themes surprisingly well without it being cringe or feeling forced like a lot of anime might do
Yesterday, 12:35 PM
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My vote goes to liking it, yes.

Considering the background/history on how the band was formed and all the members' past, I think it was kind of a "Must" to go this dark/deep in terms of psichological and dramatic plot.

After all, while not common, it's also a representation of some real scenarios in life. And in the world of music, I would think this is more common than we think about. Bands breaking up due to members "swinging in different directions", frictions between them, personal dramas affecting the groups... All these may actually be the daily problems of most real world bands.

So yes, escaping the "happy life" and the "overcoming issues so easily" routes feels somewhat refreshing.
@Naudri I could say that the group’s background is also part of this tonal shift, but as I said in the 10th episode discussion, it can logically be explained as a "dark mirror" of a healthier MyGo.
Yesterday, 3:34 PM
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I have no pre-MyGO experience with BanG Dream and the fact that it’s dark, toxic, and psychological was the main sales pitch to me, so I’d say yeah. I also find that the increase in melodrama is precisely why I like it so much
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Yesterday, 9:45 PM
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I liked MyGo because inherently the bandmates are aware they are flawed and genuinely want to work at improving themselves through the band. Despite the drama in MyGO, they felt relatable in the sense I can relate to having stupid flaws, and I'll attempt to address them in a flawed but open way to those I care about. It also helps that the show started off as another "band-show" and eased into the drama.

Ave Mujica starts off with strong baggage and gets more dramatic due to Sakiko being too evasive of a person (the nicest way I can describe her) and Nyamu's inferiority complex just being hilariously unrealistic (to me). Mitsumi is a good actor but her breakdowns are not acting so Nyamu is simply written off for me. No amount of episode 10 will salvage that. To me it crosses to cheesy because I can't see how a rational human being even factoring the flaws Sakiko and Nyamu have, would make the decision they would make.

I still enjoy the show, but not because I take seriously, but because I take it humorously and I simply want to see where the wild train ride ends. I do however like it less than MyGo.
Yesterday, 10:08 PM
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I've never had any interest in idol type shows, but the themes discussed here certainly intrigue me, and two seasons with 8+ scores is no joke.

Oh... that's right, it's CGI... so that's probably why I haven't bothered. lol
LostSpectreYesterday, 10:11 PM
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Yesterday, 10:25 PM
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It kinda just seems goofy to me, these girls freaking out so badly over their first world problems. The alcoholic dad is the only one that seems to actually warrant the screwed up behavior to me.
Yesterday, 11:29 PM
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I've never had any interest in idol type shows, but the themes discussed here certainly intrigue me, and two seasons with 8+ scores is no joke.

Oh... that's right, it's CGI... so that's probably why I haven't bothered. lol
@LostSpectre I think that you can easily call CGI in the show of this studio the best CGI in the industry. They really spend a lot of efforts and money on it. In terms of rating, it’s the biggest plot-driven title in the franchise. Plus, you know how young people love emotional drama and teenage themes.
Yesterday, 11:48 PM

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@LostSpectre I think that you can easily call CGI in the show of this studio the best CGI in the industry. They really spend a lot of efforts and money on it. In terms of rating, it’s the biggest plot-driven title in the franchise. Plus, you know how young people love emotional drama and teenage themes.
@RobertBobert The art itself looks really good, but I just can't with pure CGI, it's really off-putting. I only watched Land of the Lustrous because of the praise it got, but I thought it was just alright. There's a fair amount of CGI in this seasons Medalist but that looks pretty damn good to me for the most part, but it's all constant motion more or less, so I think that factors in.
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Yesterday, 11:53 PM

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@RobertBobert The art itself looks really good, but I just can't with pure CGI, it's really off-putting. I only watched Land of the Lustrous because of the praise it got, but I thought it was just alright. There's a fair amount of CGI in this seasons Medalist but that looks pretty damn good to me for the most part, but it's all constant motion more or less, so I think that factors in.
@LostSpectre These are different studios and different genres, but I think that Ave Mujika retains no less quality. But this is already a matter of tastes, I do not want to impose my subjective opinion to you.
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@LostSpectre These are different studios and different genres, but I think that Ave Mujika retains no less quality. But this is already a matter of tastes, I do not want to impose my subjective opinion to you.
@RobertBobert Yeah, I don't think it's a question of quality or anything, CGI just literally messes with my senses. lol
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a psychological drama with dark touches has to provoke the viewer's uneasiness, sadness, fear and most importantly be credible... and with that empathize with the characters, but it can never become "a meme factory" and there are many of these and some with delirious black humor, which shows that people are not taking it seriously. concluded, there are only two characters (waiting for uika) who really have serious problems and for whom we could feel identified and afflicted, one is sakiko with her loss of her maternal reference, an alcoholic father and a grandfather with no human traits and the other mutsumi / mortis with serious psychological problems with a mother who does not seem to care, but in both cases it is not deepened enough for us to immerse ourselves in them. After 10 chapters we haven't seen any "growth in the characters" we just see them fall into the same mistakes of the past and as a viewer it looks corny and like simple "edgy fanservice". There are three chapters left but I don't think there is a solution. Personal opinion
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If we look at it from both sides, I think the negative side of this show will take up the majority.
The personalities of the characters in AvM tend to be more fake complex than real complex. From our perspective, as viewers, we will see more solutions instead of complicating things, but this will be a subjective opinion, when emotions conflict with reason, it creates an illogical thing that is difficult to recognize and goes against all our perspectives.
It can be a double-edged sword that brings us curiosity, excitement and also makes us feel kinda cringe or creepy at the same time.

Maybe the age speaks of an immature perception or maybe it is the emotion that is exaggerated in a negative way about both the responsibility that a student has to bear and the consequences if they choose the wrong direction.
It is the above things that have formed a series of imperfect character personalities, although we do not demand perfection, but it seems like the psychological level at their age that they have to endure may be a bit heavy, and this is also common in the way manga authors describe character psychology.
Although the character development is not consistent because there are also one or two characters who are favored more in the duration of the episodes, and I think it's not a success yet it does not make me too disappointed because after all, after 10 episodes, it has shown that the characters in this story have to fight to return to what they want, so when we do not take the drama of the story too seriously, we can still enjoy the relationships that the characters create.

This is also part of the reason because for me, I have seen worst things and many more terrible things, so this is still just a form of excessive emotion and not something too bad.
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