Sound! Euphonium (light novel)
| Mostly agreed, but I'm still pretty happy with the finale, all things considered. - Year 3 wasn't as good as Year 1, but I consider the first two seasons one of the best anime stories I've seen, so I did not really think it was possible for Year 3 to hit the same highs. - The whole Mayu drama did drag. But I thought the conflict was really interesting and acted as a culmination of who Kumiko is as a person and as a musician. It was absolutely a topic worth spending time and effort on... maybe they just went too far. - The lack of practice sessions and performances was very disappointing to me as well. But we did get a good one at the finals. And I also understand that they did not want to repeat the same beats and same story structure as the previous years. For example, I was fine with them skipping Sun Fes this time, since we've already seen it twice. - I would argue that every season and movie was always about Kumiko (except for Liz and the Blue Bird, but I see that as a spin-off). Even when it was about other characters, like Mizore and Nozomi, we followed Kumiko's perspective and her own involvement in those matters. I think Season 3 was mostly the same, like with the contrabass player, for example. - I wouldn't call Shuuichi a "plot hole," just a missed opportunity. But it's no big loss. He was never a well-drawn character, and had very little importance in Kumiko's already-overcrowded life. I actually get a little confused every time people talk about him in romantic terms (or in any way at all). I probably would've got a little annoyed if Kumiko got together with Shuuichi in Year 3. - The ending was basically perfect, except for the rushed feeling. But nothing was missed or resolved in a strange way. I would've liked an extra episode, maybe. griddyweeb said: Year 3 was 13 episodes. It's like they didn't learn their lesson. What lesson? The fact that they need to do more seasons? A ton of factors go into making that decision, and it's up to Kyoto Animation if they want to (or have to) work on something else instead. I also would've liked to see 2 seasons of Year 3, yes. But I also understand that that would've created its own set of problems; the obvious one being the pace. I'm just happy they managed to conclude the story at all, in the same style and with the same quality bar. In the end, they didn't betray what Hibike! Euphonium was at its core. |
griddyweeb said: The anime being Kumiko's perspective is not an excuse for the lack of detail. Fair. I thought your complaint was that there was too much Kumiko. The lack of detail goes back to the time constraints, I think. griddyweeb said: But the whole confession and Kumiko's reply of giving back the hairpin and asking him to gift it to her again when they're less busy made it clear she has feelings too I still don't quite agree. I don't think Kumiko was interested in romance at all, whoever it is with. I think she told him that not because she had feelings for him, but because she genuinely could not see herself in a relationship. She didn't dislike him either, so she was being honest about having no idea what the future may hold. Whether that's a nice thing to say to a guy who's pining for her... is questionable. Shuuichi's known her for a long time and understood what kind of person she was, and he seems to have a chill personality, so I can see how he let things be. From a storytelling perspective, they could've fleshed things out a tiny bit, but I don't see a serious issue. Kumiko and Shuuichi gave it a try and called it off, and that's that. They're still friends. griddyweeb said: 2 season literally would've been the solution to the bad pacing and lack of detail. Yes, it would've helped with the "lack of detail" part. But going from 13 to 24+ episodes can easily cause other problems, where there's not enough detail to fill the time, or worse, adding the sloppy or "wrong" kind of detail that detracts from the story. Even within the one season we got, the Mayu conflict lasted way too long, so we've already seen what it's like when the pace drags. If this kind of thing kept happening and stretched on over 2 seasons, I would be wishing for one season instead of two. We can both daydream about 2 full seasons of amazing storylines and a satisfying, extended ending where no stones are left unturned... |
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But it wouldn't, considering how much stuff was completely cut out and how many stuff was cut short with time skips there was more than enough material for 26 episodes. The whole issue about Mayu's story too is that it was the sole focus for several episodes or almost half the season, in itself it would've been okay if it was not favored over other more important plots and if it wasn't continuously the focus. Even Year 1 had lesser subplots like Hazuki falling for Shuuichi, but it was fine because it was never really a main plot, it was only recurring from time to time and more importantly they didn't cut other plots in favor of it.
perseii said:
But going from 13 to 24+ episodes can easily cause other problems, where there's not enough detail to fill the time, or worse, adding the sloppy or "wrong" kind of detail that detracts from the story.
But going from 13 to 24+ episodes can easily cause other problems, where there's not enough detail to fill the time, or worse, adding the sloppy or "wrong" kind of detail that detracts from the story.
But it wouldn't, considering how much stuff was completely cut out and how many stuff was cut short with time skips there was more than enough material for 26 episodes. The whole issue about Mayu's story too is that it was the sole focus for several episodes or almost half the season, in itself it would've been okay if it was not favored over other more important plots and if it wasn't continuously the focus. Even Year 1 had lesser subplots like Hazuki falling for Shuuichi, but it was fine because it was never really a main plot, it was only recurring from time to time and more importantly they didn't cut other plots in favor of it.
| @griddyweeb Oh, so the light novels do have enough material to fill 2 whole seasons? I wasn't considering those at all. Taking your word for it, that's disappointing to hear... And I can see how 13 episodes would be extra disappointing for LN readers. If you've read the LNs, at least you can take comfort in the fact that you've experienced a version of the Year 3 story that is better than the anime version... |
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