Shallow Leveling

R0r5ch4ch said:
there's something called reviews

NegativeRei said:

this is too short for a review

Merve2Love said:
Thanks for the Review, selfimportant Mal-User Number 234566

nvxiis said:
if you don’t partake for the hype and action I don’t know what to tell you.

CheliosX said:
I thought Solo Leveling was peak before since it was the first ever manhwa I read (Dec 2023). I then came across the real peaks like ORV, Baskerville Bloodhound, GED, TBATE, Pick Me Up etc. That was when I realized SL was just meh in everything except fights.


As a power fantasy show, Solo Leveling is S tier. That's why battle shōnentards keep glazing it as if it's peak fiction. The fights are the only peak parts.
As for every other thing like world building, character depth and so on, it falls flat fr.
I only gave it (anime) a 9 for the fights and animation.
Story - 5.
Fights/animation - 9.

AnimeGirlGusher said:
That should be the name of the anime, except for the first two episodes with the double dungeon I forgot everything else instantly.

I think it's a waste of talent, none of the fights are memorable. The only thing I picture in my mind when I think about the fights is jin wo swinging his dagger with a blue trail then he uses some crutch isekai rpg bs to always survive.

Other series deserved an adaptation like this, only cope being the studio made the asses bigger while in the manhwa all the girls were super flat in the back.

NegativeRei said:

Yeah. If anyone just wanna turn their brain off, and enjoy fights, they'll enjoy it a lot.

Also, ORV is getting an anime. I don't read manga/manhwas but I've heard a lot of good things about it.

CheliosX said:

Yup, for fights, Solo Leveling tops it.

As for ORV, it's god tier peak in every way, man. The anime is gonna be awesome if the studio is a good pick.

NegativeRei said:

Let me add it to my list.
I'm guessing A1 will do it. After the popularity of SL, I can hardly see ORV's adaptation being bad. Let's hope for the best for now.

NegativeRei said:
I just finished the show. I'm not a big fan of action, but not gonna lie, I enjoyed this one. A-1 Pictures did a good job with the adaptation. That said, the whole game system is kinda meh. You'll find a lot of flaws if you think too much about it. I didn’t overanalyze it and just went with the flow.

The fight scenes are exceptionally well animated but the show is mostly mindless action without much buildup. Jinwoo just goes into random dungeons and fights, which means the battles mostly lack emotional impact. My favorite fight is the one against the blue anaconda, and that’s because it carries emotional weight. Before defeating the anaconda, we get Jinwoo’s monologue about why he needs to become stronger. In the double dungeon, despite being intelligent and resourceful, he was abandoned by others for being weak.

Despite this, the show is enjoyable. I think it gets more hate than it deserves because of its popularity. Not the best show, but a good one. 7/10 from me.

Before anyone comments asking about the point of this thread, I just wanted to share my opinion and know what others think. You're free to ignore it.

CheliosX said:
I thought Solo Leveling was peak before since it was the first ever manhwa I read (Dec 2023). I then came across the real peaks like ORV, Baskerville Bloodhound, GED, TBATE, Pick Me Up etc. That was when I realized SL was just meh in everything except fights.


As a power fantasy show, Solo Leveling is S tier. That's why battle shōnentards keep glazing it as if it's peak fiction. The fights are the only peak parts.
As for every other thing like world building, character depth and so on, it falls flat fr.
I only gave it (anime) a 9 for the fights and animation.
Story - 5.
Fights/animation - 9.

GTRaijin said:

Tbh, the fights aren't even that good and by that I mean it's just the same exact cycle repeated over and over again. Jinwoo enters a dungeon, encounters a boss, at first he feels like he can beat it but then the boss starts slapping him around like a doll, JW is about to die and then conveniently gets back up just to one/two hit the boss in the same spot, dungeon gets cleared.

GTRaijin said:

Tbh, the fights aren't even that good and by that I mean it's just the same exact cycle repeated over and over again. Jinwoo enters a dungeon, encounters a boss, at first he feels like he can beat it but then the boss starts slapping him around like a doll, JW is about to die and then conveniently gets back up just to one/two hit the boss in the same spot, dungeon gets cleared.

CheliosX said:
I thought Solo Leveling was peak before since it was the first ever manhwa I read (Dec 2023). I then came across the real peaks like ORV, Baskerville Bloodhound, GED, TBATE, Pick Me Up etc. That was when I realized SL was just meh in everything except fights.


As a power fantasy show, Solo Leveling is S tier. That's why battle shōnentards keep glazing it as if it's peak fiction. The fights are the only peak parts.
As for every other thing like world building, character depth and so on, it falls flat fr.
I only gave it (anime) a 9 for the fights and animation.
Story - 5.
Fights/animation - 9.

sohma_kyo said:

Yeah Solo Leveling is great but ORV is PEAK.

CheliosX said:
I thought Solo Leveling was peak before since it was the first ever manhwa I read (Dec 2023). I then came across the real peaks like ORV, Baskerville Bloodhound, GED, TBATE, Pick Me Up etc. That was when I realized SL was just meh in everything except fights.


As a power fantasy show, Solo Leveling is S tier. That's why battle shōnentards keep glazing it as if it's peak fiction. The fights are the only peak parts.
As for every other thing like world building, character depth and so on, it falls flat fr.
I only gave it (anime) a 9 for the fights and animation.
Story - 5.
Fights/animation - 9.

Piromysl said:
Why do people assume that just because something is generic and has overused formula it's immidietly bad? It's always about execution.

GRG3 said:

Shut your pretentious ass up. On about shonentards. You cannot be fr. You clearly have no idea how worldbuilding works.

Simply because SL has generic concepts integrated into its world like gates and dungeons and a game system doesnt mean that its worldbuilding is just bad and flat.

For example gates. SL literally variates between them in arcs. Red gates(Baraka), Double dungeons(Tusk arc and the Architect), Dungeon breaks(Jin-Ah and in the final war with the monarchs). Again, not a lot of other series beforehand or afterwards put this much thought into variation as to not bore the reader.

If you have read the series, which I am assuming you are cuz you quite literally said to. Then you why Sung Jin Woo is the only one who can constantly level up and why the system was given to him and why other hunters are capped at their strength. And you why Gates popped up outta nowhere and how mana came to exist on Earth.

Furthermore, there is so much thought put into hunting business. There is such a long process that comes with clearing a gate with a big guild so that they maximise profit. Dangers of joining smaller guilds. How exactly hunters make money. How exactly overpowered superhumans are kept in check with stuff like the Hunters Association being established in most global superpowers. I could go on and on You bring up something like TBATE which also had arcs of adventurers(basically hunters) and gates and you wouldnt find even a third of this much detail(manhwa only). There is so much love and thought put into making stuff like Hunters realistic and people like you just eat up whatever the next overly intellectual dumbass says and make that your opinion. You wont find anyone call TBATE generic even tho it starts of with a cliche world and plot(just like SL).

I havent even mentioned the amount of lore and worldmaking SL acc has. Makes it feel real with a world that had history. With Monarchs, Rulers, Outer Gods. Need i say more?

Of course there are flaws with SL worldbuilding. Re-awakening could have been explored more. How tf did Ashborn and the Architect manage to make Earths past into a gate. How exactly did the Rulers bring the denizens of chaos into Earth and trap them. You can critique SL' s world. But you cant just say its flat and bad because that means you cant read wtf.
I dont even know why I typed all this bro just shut up if you're not educated enough to acc critique the piece of media being discussed.

And for you saying the story is mid. You clearly enjoyed it in the past. How can you call a story that entertained you bad? However, unlike worldbuilding, perception of a story is subjective so yeah. Not even gonna argue that one. Character depth valid take ig.

And ORV is way better and acc peak fiction. But its not like ORV dont got problems too.

CheliosX said:

I didn't even bother to read all of this cause you seem to be worked up for some reason.
Now why are you so worked up? Yes, it's mainly battle shōnentards that praise SL as peak fiction and you know it. Tf is you on? Plus it's well known for being a peak power fantasy show, that much is clear. It has its own world building and character depth but they're not that well done to whatever. The fights overshadow it imo.
That's why I brought in ORV. It clears SL in the world building and character development and depth dept.
Clear enough now, bud?
I don't even hate SL. I love it. But it's not peak fiction in general. Just peak power fantasy.
The story is okay but nothing special or fantastic. Simplistic as hell but good.
If you didn't get that much from the comment you replied to, then keep shut.

GRG3 said:

Damn you didnt read something and pay attention with detail im so surprised.

And im not worked up. I really wouldnt get heated over an anime argument fr. Its just how you're portraying me in your head.

Also you're rewording. You called SL flat. Now you're sayin its simplistic but good. And again. Im also saying you clearly didnt pay attention to the actual effort put into SL world. It is not simple and it is well done goddamn. So I'm saying if your ass aint educated enough on the piece of media's worldbuilding, dont critique it. You keep sayin its not done well how bout you elaborate. Damn bro. Cant believe im arguing with a fellow ORV fan.

GRG3 said:

Damn you didnt read something and pay attention with detail im so surprised.

And im not worked up. I really wouldnt get heated over an anime argument fr. Its just how you're portraying me in your head.

Also you're rewording. You called SL flat. Now you're sayin its simplistic but good. And again. Im also saying you clearly didnt pay attention to the actual effort put into SL world. It is not simple and it is well done goddamn. So I'm saying if your ass aint educated enough on the piece of media's worldbuilding, dont critique it. You keep sayin its not done well how bout you elaborate. Damn bro. Cant believe im arguing with a fellow ORV fan. And bro dont call fans that love SL enough to call it peak fiction 'shonentards.' Thats just insulting and you're lowkey saying a slur.

NegativeRei said:

You're welcome ...

Merve2Love said:

How quick are you refreshing the site, to answer EVERYONE xD

Having a great day, full of attention and human interaction, dont you?

God bless you, boy.^^
Enjoy.

Cielord said:
“I just wanted to share my opinion and know what others think.”
Yet, you decided to have such a clickbait thread name. And as another user noted, reviews exist; you can share your thoughts by writing a review and see other multitudes of different views by reading the reviews there, but sure, have it your way.

In regard to me, I like Solo Leveling, the story/plot, world building, and characters; I thought all were well written. Of course, that's the minority opinion.

SanessyAdversary said:
I mean yeah, the characters beside Jin-Woo are unbelievably near empty or irrelevant because of how boring they are. The mc, action or animation is basically what carried this anime specifically for this season imho. The story/plot in this season is almost repetitive but not completely ofc, I won't mind it as long as it entertains me somewhat. I alr know season 2 at least will develop some characters outside of Jin-Woo finer so there's the pro in that which I'm looking forward to.

World building so far is all right. Nothing crazy but nothing shallow.

This show warrants me around 7-7.5 score from me because at the end of the day pretty sure Solo Leveling feels like a power fantasy done pretty well and I'm someone who's completely against it but not hate it by any means because it just can get quite boring or stale at a lot of times depending how consistent the plot/story is.

+ Everyone has their own taste in their own right which I respect yes obviously.

So yuh, don't worry I respect your opinion even if your take is harsh or crappy or biased but at least you're respectful or self-aware abt it.

NegativeRei said:
I just finished the show. I'm not a big fan of action, but not gonna lie, I enjoyed this one. A-1 Pictures did a good job with the adaptation. That said, the whole game system is kinda meh. You'll find a lot of flaws if you think too much about it. I didn’t overanalyze it and just went with the flow.

The fight scenes are exceptionally well animated but the show is mostly mindless action without much buildup. Jinwoo just goes into random dungeons and fights, which means the battles mostly lack emotional impact. My favorite fight is the one against the blue anaconda, and that’s because it carries emotional weight. Before defeating the anaconda, we get Jinwoo’s monologue about why he needs to become stronger. In the double dungeon, despite being intelligent and creative, he was abandoned by others for being weak.

Despite this, the show is enjoyable. I think it gets more hate than it deserves because of its popularity. Not the best show, but a good one. 7/10 from me.

Before anyone comments asking about the point of this thread, I just wanted to share my opinion and know what others think. You're free to ignore it.

oeyuu_ said:

"I'm not worked up" *types an actual wall of text cuz someone didn't like his sloppy fighting manhwa* get over it all that solo leveling Has to offer are the fights (which were somehow good only in the manhwa)

CheliosX said:

Yea, what you said was no lie. And I couldn't care less. I said FLAT in the sense that it's okay. And by "simplistic but good", I was trying to imply the same thing but it seems my wording was wrong.
The Solo Leveling plot as a story in general is okay. But as a pure power fantasy show it's intriguing and good. And my point still stands that it's mainly battle shōnentards that'll glaze it as peak fiction.
Solo Leveling is not terrible, it's not peak. That's that.

And the world building? It's not terrible. For a story like Solo Leveling, it did well with its world building. Satisfactory to me. The lore is good too.
But I won't call it peak.
The story centers around Sung Jin-Woo but it's expected since it's a Solo story and whatnot.
I wouldn't have said any of this if I wasn't well informed on the world of SL. Got that?
That's all I'm saying.

As for the battle shōnentards, I won't take that back because from the majority of people I have encountered that glaze it, they only talk about the fights and Sung Jin-Woo's drip and aura. Nothing more. The term "battle shōnentard" can be found offensive but that's the way I describe people that have that mentality. I don't mean to insult them. I am just saying the truth.
I love Solo Leveling but not because of the fights, it's more of how Sung Jin-Woo grew as a character though not magnificent but well enough to make me admire him.
I have no issue with people being entranced by SL fights and animation. You're free to do so.

SuntProstMare said:

that's what She said

NegativeRei said:

Yeah. If anyone just wanna turn their brain off, and enjoy fights, they'll enjoy it a lot.

Also, ORV is getting an anime. I don't read manga/manhwas but I've heard a lot of good things about it.

_Sanchay said:

but again if it gets a good animation studio.

NegativeRei said:

Most likely it'll get

GTRaijin said:
@GRG3 My guy, you literally sound like someone who is too worked up and obsessed about something that isn't even that deep. Whenever someone says something even remotely negative about SL, you come with your walls of text in defense ;d We get it, SL is your peak but you don't need to start writing multiple paragraphs about it.