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The entire anime was predictable and boring.

I honestly had high hopes after watching the first episode, but quickly realized this anime lied to me, after watching more.

It was faking being different from the beginning.

Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Sep 30, 2024 5:19 AM

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ejleon said:
The entire anime was predictable and boring.

I honestly had high hopes after watching the first episode, but quickly realized this anime lied to me, after watching more.

It was faking being different from the beginning.

Okay then.Tell me one more Anime on that style. With that deep and real take on such a situation. With that directing style. Without comic relief or action packed cuts.

Sep 30, 2024 12:21 PM

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ejleon said:
The entire anime was predictable and boring.

I honestly had high hopes after watching the first episode, but quickly realized this anime lied to me, after watching more.

It was faking being different from the beginning.

Okay then.Tell me one more Anime on that style. With that deep and real take on such a situation. With that directing style. Without comic relief or action packed cuts.

@Densema I never said it was a "certain style", I said it was predictable and boring. There are a lot of anime that have the same serious tone, but that isn't even the issue here. They didn't even approach the situation with realistic or honest conviction.

Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Sep 30, 2024 12:36 PM

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何それ？意味分かんない

Sep 30, 2024 3:16 PM

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ejleon said:
@Densema I never said it was a "certain style", I said it was predictable and boring. There are a lot of anime that have the same serious tone, but that isn't even the issue here. They didn't even approach the situation with realistic or honest conviction.

Okay, predictable? Only so far as it was indeed a romance, so it was clear that they would confess to each other. But that's the reason why someone would wach a romance anime to begin with. But other than that I don't see where it would be predictable, at least not in the same way as the one quadrillion other romance animes out there following the same scematics. I would not have predicted the end result in ep 12, I thought it would not even happen at all, thats how unsure I got because of stuff happening or not happening the way it typically does in anime. Boring? I mean, if it isn't your cup of tea, sure, that's fine, but that is what I meant with "the style". It wasn't meant to be flashy and action-packed and catchy and comical. It was not made to hook you in with jump cuts and overtuned characters. It was made calm and serene, relaxing, sometimes it got into darker tones. If this isn't for you, that's totally okay, but saying it IS boring instead of "I found it boring" or "it didn't catch me with it's tone" is just not helpful as a critic, it more or less just feels lazy. You did not even say why you found it that way or how/where it was predictable. Just simply bashing it for the sake of it and I really don't get why o.o

Sep 30, 2024 3:22 PM

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ejleon said:
@Densema I never said it was a "certain style", I said it was predictable and boring. There are a lot of anime that have the same serious tone, but that isn't even the issue here. They didn't even approach the situation with realistic or honest conviction.

Okay, predictable? Only so far as it was indeed a romance, so it was clear that they would confess to each other. But that's the reason why someone would wach a romance anime to begin with. But other than that I don't see where it would be predictable, at least not in the same way as the one quadrillion other romance animes out there following the same scematics. I would not have predicted the end result in ep 12, I thought it would not even happen at all, thats how unsure I got because of stuff happening or not happening the way it typically does in anime. Boring? I mean, if it isn't your cup of tea, sure, that's fine, but that is what I meant with "the style". It wasn't meant to be flashy and action-packed and catchy and comical. It was not made to hook you in with jump cuts and overtuned characters. It was made calm and serene, relaxing, sometimes it got into darker tones. If this isn't for you, that's totally okay, but saying it IS boring instead of "I found it boring" or "it didn't catch me with it's tone" is just not helpful as a critic, it more or less just feels lazy. You did not even say why you found it that way or how/where it was predictable. Just simply bashing it for the sake of it and I really don't get why o.o

You really make a lot of assumptions, not good at all.

I have no problem watching slow, methodical, patient, dialogue driven, artistic shows, and I definitely don’t need constant action, adventure, and over the top characters.

I don’t just “bash a show for the sake of it”, and you should not just defend a show because you personally like it. You are the one acting like a fan and not an open minded observer.

“Not your cup of tea”, I impartially watch any anime all the way through, then I base my opinion of it after I watch all the episodes. I watch any and all genres. There are good anime and bad anime, this was the latter.

Can you stop using straw man attacks, they only make you look bad.

Predictable … they have this “will they or won’t they” through out the entire anime, the teasing is really annoying. They had her make a serious move way too early on in the story, then back off to become his “sister”. He resists at first and then eventful says he loves her. It was what I’ve seen in books and media for a long time now, it is nothing unique.

Boring … the two main male and female characters are so similar they already seemed like siblings, it was creepy that they had no youthful spark in their eyes, like they both already gave up on life. The parents, the library’s friend, and the people at school were were more interesting than them. The two main characters are uninteresting and joyless.

ejleonSep 30, 2024 3:34 PM

Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Sep 30, 2024 3:50 PM

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Densema said:

Okay, predictable? Only so far as it was indeed a romance, so it was clear that they would confess to each other. But that's the reason why someone would wach a romance anime to begin with. But other than that I don't see where it would be predictable, at least not in the same way as the one quadrillion other romance animes out there following the same scematics. I would not have predicted the end result in ep 12, I thought it would not even happen at all, thats how unsure I got because of stuff happening or not happening the way it typically does in anime. Boring? I mean, if it isn't your cup of tea, sure, that's fine, but that is what I meant with "the style". It wasn't meant to be flashy and action-packed and catchy and comical. It was not made to hook you in with jump cuts and overtuned characters. It was made calm and serene, relaxing, sometimes it got into darker tones. If this isn't for you, that's totally okay, but saying it IS boring instead of "I found it boring" or "it didn't catch me with it's tone" is just not helpful as a critic, it more or less just feels lazy. You did not even say why you found it that way or how/where it was predictable. Just simply bashing it for the sake of it and I really don't get why o.o

You really make a lot of assumptions, not good at all.

I have no problem watching slow, methodical, patient, dialogue driven, artistic shows, and I definitely don’t need constant action, adventure, and over the top characters.

I don’t just “bash a show for the sake of it”, and you should not just defend a show because you personally like it. You are the one acting like a fan and not an open minded observer.

“Not your cup of tea”, I impartially watch any anime all the way through, then I base my opinion of it after I watch all the episodes. I watch any and all genres. There are good anime and bad anime, this was the latter.

Can you stop using straw man attacks, they only make you look bad.

Predictable … they have this “will they or won’t they” through out the entire anime, the teasing is really annoying. They had her make a serious move way too early on in the story, then back off to become his “sister”. He resists at first and then eventful says he loves her. It was what I’ve seen in books and media for a long time now, it is nothing unique.

Boring … the two main male and female characters are so similar they already seemed like siblings, it was creepy that they had no youthful spark in their eyes, like they both already gave up on life. The parents, the library’s friend, and the people at school were were more interesting than them. The two main characters are uninteresting and joyless.

Again, you say it as your opinion is the general truth, there are good and bad romance and this one is the latter. It is your wording that I personally found wrong. And this is what I meant with bashing or not my cup of tea. Not that you don't watch similar shows, I was never assuming you did not, I was saying that the style of this show seemed like not your cuppa.

There is a difference between telling your own opinion and really telling that it is your opinion, or telling your opinion as 'facts' and objectively true. You can have a good and helpful and really quite welcome discussion about opinions, talk about similar or different views with another and be fine with each other not agreeing in every single point.

You can even state facts when for example you critique the animation for an anime because the eyes were halfway out of the face, I would agree that this is a fact if it's not clearly a stylistic choice. And I would not defend an anime against another ones opinion, because I really don't feel entitled enough to think that my opinion is more right than any other ones, everyone sees things differently, feels differently, has different interests. But if you state it as a fact that this anime IS boring, then I, as someone who did not find it boring in any way, wilö stand against that, because that is not how I felt about it, so it cannot be generally true.

I find it good tho that you later told more of your reasoning behind your feelings for the anime, there is something to work with and constructively argue about ^^ and for that I'll say something to your points in the next post as I can't exactly recall them right now ^^'

Sep 30, 2024 4:03 PM

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You say they made her make a really serious move way too early in the story. Why would you say too early? That was exactly one of the things I meant with not as predictable as others. and I do not quite get why you criticize exactly the seemingly unpredictable thing while also criticizing predictability to be honest. Maybe I'm missing something there :x
I also do not think it was too early. And I also don't think that it was meant as a move towards him as a love interest, as in my opinion even in herself this manifested just way later down the road. It simply felt more like a awkward and clumsy move in that situation, and also it was helpful for her to deepen the connection, to gain trust in him as he did not just simply did it like how I guess many would think many younglings would. And there are so many real life situations where there is back and forth between to people loving each other but not being able to handle their feelings even if it is completely clear for observers that there are feelings from both sides, so moving back after making a move is completely normal, especially at their age and with the caveat of their sibling situation in mind

Sep 30, 2024 4:24 PM

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Densema said:

Okay, predictable? Only so far as it was indeed a romance, so it was clear that they would confess to each other. But that's the reason why someone would wach a romance anime to begin with. But other than that I don't see where it would be predictable, at least not in the same way as the one quadrillion other romance animes out there following the same scematics. I would not have predicted the end result in ep 12, I thought it would not even happen at all, thats how unsure I got because of stuff happening or not happening the way it typically does in anime. Boring? I mean, if it isn't your cup of tea, sure, that's fine, but that is what I meant with "the style". It wasn't meant to be flashy and action-packed and catchy and comical. It was not made to hook you in with jump cuts and overtuned characters. It was made calm and serene, relaxing, sometimes it got into darker tones. If this isn't for you, that's totally okay, but saying it IS boring instead of "I found it boring" or "it didn't catch me with it's tone" is just not helpful as a critic, it more or less just feels lazy. You did not even say why you found it that way or how/where it was predictable. Just simply bashing it for the sake of it and I really don't get why o.o

You really make a lot of assumptions, not good at all.

I have no problem watching slow, methodical, patient, dialogue driven, artistic shows, and I definitely don’t need constant action, adventure, and over the top characters.

I don’t just “bash a show for the sake of it”, and you should not just defend a show because you personally like it. You are the one acting like a fan and not an open minded observer.

“Not your cup of tea”, I impartially watch any anime all the way through, then I base my opinion of it after I watch all the episodes. I watch any and all genres. There are good anime and bad anime, this was the latter.

Can you stop using straw man attacks, they only make you look bad.

Predictable … they have this “will they or won’t they” through out the entire anime, the teasing is really annoying. They had her make a serious move way too early on in the story, then back off to become his “sister”. He resists at first and then eventful says he loves her. It was what I’ve seen in books and media for a long time now, it is nothing unique.

Boring … the two main male and female characters are so similar they already seemed like siblings, it was creepy that they had no youthful spark in their eyes, like they both already gave up on life. The parents, the library’s friend, and the people at school were were more interesting than them. The two main characters are uninteresting and joyless.

Again, you say it as your opinion is the general truth, there are good and bad romance and this one is the latter. It is your wording that I personally found wrong. And this is what I meant with bashing or not my cup of tea. Not that you don't watch similar shows, I was never assuming you did not, I was saying that the style of this show seemed like not your cuppa.

There is a difference between telling your own opinion and really telling that it is your opinion, or telling your opinion as 'facts' and objectively true. You can have a good and helpful and really quite welcome discussion about opinions, talk about similar or different views with another and be fine with each other not agreeing in every single point.

You can even state facts when for example you critique the animation for an anime because the eyes were halfway out of the face, I would agree that this is a fact if it's not clearly a stylistic choice. And I would not defend an anime against another ones opinion, because I really don't feel entitled enough to think that my opinion is more right than any other ones, everyone sees things differently, feels differently, has different interests. But if you state it as a fact that this anime IS boring, then I, as someone who did not find it boring in any way, wilö stand against that, because that is not how I felt about it, so it cannot be generally true.

I find it good tho that you later told more of your reasoning behind your feelings for the anime, there is something to work with and constructively argue about ^^ and for that I'll say something to your points in the next post as I can't exactly recall them right now ^^'

@Densema I told you that I had no problem with the style of anime, this is one of many assumptions you made about me from the very beginning.

I never said my opinion was “THE TRUTH”, and for good measure, nor did I claim my opinion was “more right” than another person’s.

This has absolutely nothing to do with “my feelings” or “your feelings”, that’s how unintelligent people argue and it gets absolutely nowhere. This is not a personal attack on you, it is just what happens in every day life.

That you did not find the anime boring is not “THE TRUTH” either. If you enjoyed it, that’s completely fine and I am glad you had a good time, but I don’t need to agree with your personal opinion of the anime’s story.

I am obviously giving my own personally opinion about the anime, which I’m free to do, and you are free to disagree with me.

I don’t need to write a 50 page essay explaining all the points I don’t like about the anime, I can say that the anime is “boring”, I can even say “I hate the anime”, there is nothing wrong with that, and most people would not take it as me claiming to have “THE TRUTH”, but that I personally found it boring. Others would might just ignore my comment all altogether.

But it really seems like you are attacking me, just because you personally like the anime and I don’t, so maybe change your approach when disagreeing with people.

Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Sep 30, 2024 4:39 PM

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@Densema I told you that I had no problem with the style of anime, this is one of many assumptions you made about me from the very beginning.

I never said my opinion was “THE TRUTH”, and for good measure, nor did I claim my opinion was “more right” than another person’s.

This has absolutely nothing to do with “my feelings” or “your feelings”, that’s how unintelligent people argue and it gets absolutely nowhere. This is not a personal attack on you, it is just what happens in every day life.

That you did not find the anime boring is not “THE TRUTH” either. If you enjoyed it, that’s completely fine and I am glad you had a good time, but I don’t need to agree with your personal opinion of the anime’s story.

I am obviously giving my own personally opinion about the anime, which I’m free to do, and you are free to disagree with me.

I don’t need to write a 50 page essay explaining all the points I don’t like about the anime, I can say that the anime is “boring”, I can even say “I hate the anime”, there is nothing wrong with that, and most people would not take it as me claiming to have “THE TRUTH”, but that I personally found it boring. Others would might just ignore my comment all altogether.

But it really seems like you are attacking me, just because you personally like the anime and I don’t, so maybe change your approach when disagreeing with people.

Nope, now you are assuming that I am attacking you ^^ but as it seems quite normal on the internet I get why you'd assume it

saying you hate it is completely fine, it is how you feel about it, that is your thing. Saying it IS boring instead is not the same as saying you found it that way. There is no need to defend yourself, I am not attacking you, I don't know you, and why even should I? Just stated that I don't find it predictable or boring and that I did not find your comment helpful in that there was nothing to discuss in a forum where you usually discuss things. And I also never said you could not express your opinion, indeed I am encouraging you to express it, so that there is something to discuss about. But in my opinion telling something is bad and not tell more about the things that made it bad for you is kind of bashy for me, you see? Why even join the discussion and tell it's bad if you then don't really semm to want to discuss it

Sep 30, 2024 5:01 PM

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You say they made her make a really serious move way too early in the story. Why would you say too early? That was exactly one of the things I meant with not as predictable as others. and I do not quite get why you criticize exactly the seemingly unpredictable thing while also criticizing predictability to be honest. Maybe I'm missing something there :x
I also do not think it was too early. And I also don't think that it was meant as a move towards him as a love interest, as in my opinion even in herself this manifested just way later down the road. It simply felt more like a awkward and clumsy move in that situation, and also it was helpful for her to deepen the connection, to gain trust in him as he did not just simply did it like how I guess many would think many younglings would. And there are so many real life situations where there is back and forth between to people loving each other but not being able to handle their feelings even if it is completely clear for observers that there are feelings from both sides, so moving back after making a move is completely normal, especially at their age and with the caveat of their sibling situation in mind

@Densema I will say right off, I don’t have any problems with “step-siblings” having a relationship. They are not blood related, so it is fine in my mind for them to love each other and be together. So I don’t share that same stigma, the anime is assuming people have. And all this “should they or shouldn’t they” is not as impactful as someone with that stigma.

A story being predictable is not enjoyable. Knowing who the killer is from the beginning of the movie because of something said or clue given, ruins the entire movie.

In the same way, this anime told the audience that the main characters were not only going to develop feelings for each, but side characters literally gave hints, before anything really happened. It really ruined the rest of the story for me as I watched the anime, making the “are they or aren’t they”, when I could already could tell they were, kind of pointless, and the hesitation and indecisiveness all the more frustrating.

I already knew in the episode that she was going to make a move on him, before she did it, not because I know the written material, but because that’s what the anime’s story, hinting comments from side characters, and the character interaction and dialogue of the main characters led up to at that point. I think I even said, “Oh now she is going to make a move on him”, before I actually saw the scene. I was surprised that it was such a strong move on him, basically her throwing herself at him, and not just trying to kiss him, but point being, I knew she was going to do something.

There are lots of ways to gain and develop trust, this is not the usual way people take. This was a very extreme move, if it was just to see if she could trust him. It put him in a completely awkward position, almost a total stranger, a female tempting him in this way. It would be wrong to blame him for giving in, with her doing that much already, and if he did, it doesn’t mean that he is not a trustworthy guy. Him resisting in that situation does not mean he is a trustworthy guy either, he can still be a bad guy, but just protecting himself because he doesn’t want to ruin his own situation.

It sadly made her character seem unconfident, possessive, and desperate, before they are even together she wants to hold on to him. I thought it was bad writing and not how to make the audience feel sorry for the female lead.

ejleonSep 30, 2024 5:16 PM

Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Sep 30, 2024 5:14 PM

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ejleon said:
@Densema I will say right off, I don’t have any problems with “step-siblings” having a relationship. They are not blood related, so it is fine in my mind for them to love each other and be together. So I don’t share that same stigma, the anime is assuming people have. And all this “should they or shouldn’t they” is not as impactful as someone with that stigma.

A story being predictable is not enjoyable. Knowing who the killer is from the beginning of the movie because of something said or clue given, ruins the entire movie.

In the same way, this anime told the audience that the main characters were not only going to develop feelings for each, but side characters literally gave hints, before anything really happened. It really ruined the rest of the story for me as I watched the anime, making the “are they or aren’t they”, when I could already could tell they were, kind of pointless, and the hesitation and indecisiveness all the more frustrating.

I already knew in the episode that she was going to make a move on him, before she did it, not because I know the written material, but because that’s what the anime’s story, hinting comments from side characters, and the character interaction and dialogue of the main characters led up to at that point. I think I even said, “Oh now she is going to make a move on him”, before I actually saw the scene. I think I was surprised that it was such a strong move on him, basically her throwing herself at him, and not just trying go kiss him, but point being, I knew she was going to do something.

There are lots of ways to gain and develop trust, this is not the usual way people take. This was a very extreme move, if it was just to see if she could trust him. It put him in a completely awkward position, almost a completely stranger, a female tempting him in this way. It would be wrong to blame him for giving in, with her doing that much already, and if he did, it doesn’t mean that he is not a trustworthy guy. Him resisting in that situation does not mean he is a trustworthy guy either, he can still be a bad guy, but just protecting himself because he doesn’t want to ruin his own situation.

It sadly made her character seem unconfident, possessive, and desperate, before they are even together she wants to hold on to him. I thought it was bad writing and not how to make the audience feel sorry for the female lead.

Thank you so much :) I really get your points now and even have to say that I mostly see them quite similar, maybe it's just that this does not weight that much for me I guess

Hmmm, I for myself am looking more into the cultural context given than into my own opinion while watching such things. I could not care less who loves who, as long as it is not harmful ^^ But knowing the context where the characters are living helps me to dive in deeper into the emotional problems of said chars

Sep 30, 2024 5:52 PM

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ejleon said:
@Densema I will say right off, I don’t have any problems with “step-siblings” having a relationship. They are not blood related, so it is fine in my mind for them to love each other and be together. So I don’t share that same stigma, the anime is assuming people have. And all this “should they or shouldn’t they” is not as impactful as someone with that stigma.

A story being predictable is not enjoyable. Knowing who the killer is from the beginning of the movie because of something said or clue given, ruins the entire movie.

In the same way, this anime told the audience that the main characters were not only going to develop feelings for each, but side characters literally gave hints, before anything really happened. It really ruined the rest of the story for me as I watched the anime, making the “are they or aren’t they”, when I could already could tell they were, kind of pointless, and the hesitation and indecisiveness all the more frustrating.

I already knew in the episode that she was going to make a move on him, before she did it, not because I know the written material, but because that’s what the anime’s story, hinting comments from side characters, and the character interaction and dialogue of the main characters led up to at that point. I think I even said, “Oh now she is going to make a move on him”, before I actually saw the scene. I think I was surprised that it was such a strong move on him, basically her throwing herself at him, and not just trying go kiss him, but point being, I knew she was going to do something.

There are lots of ways to gain and develop trust, this is not the usual way people take. This was a very extreme move, if it was just to see if she could trust him. It put him in a completely awkward position, almost a completely stranger, a female tempting him in this way. It would be wrong to blame him for giving in, with her doing that much already, and if he did, it doesn’t mean that he is not a trustworthy guy. Him resisting in that situation does not mean he is a trustworthy guy either, he can still be a bad guy, but just protecting himself because he doesn’t want to ruin his own situation.

It sadly made her character seem unconfident, possessive, and desperate, before they are even together she wants to hold on to him. I thought it was bad writing and not how to make the audience feel sorry for the female lead.

Thank you so much :) I really get your points now and even have to say that I mostly see them quite similar, maybe it's just that this does not weight that much for me I guess

Hmmm, I for myself am looking more into the cultural context given than into my own opinion while watching such things. I could not care less who loves who, as long as it is not harmful ^^ But knowing the context where the characters are living helps me to dive in deeper into the emotional problems of said chars

Yes, it is true, I had to try to place myself in that mindset of “they are in Japan, this could be a stigma Japanese people have” to watch the rest of the anime with the correct perspective.

Then again, Japanese are writing this story, so maybe not all share such a stigma, but it could still be seen as controversial to some.

Thank you for taking the time and explaining your comments.

My thinking now, I appreciate you questioning me, and I am happy you made me explain my thoughts, it forced me to clarify what I really meant by “boring” & “predictable”.

Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Sep 30, 2024 7:05 PM

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I can respect ejleon's dislike for this anime because it is predictable. That's his deal breaker and it's subjective.

The synopsis of the light novels are even telling us that they this will lead to romance.

Let me say that it really depends. Sometimes I enjoy something predictable, but sometimes I don't. It's not the only criterion I use in judging a piece of art, so ultimately let's edleon enjoy what ejleon fancy, and I'll enjoy mine according to my standards.

I love the atmosphere created by this anime, the sound design, the visual story telling that I don't mind the predictability that they will have a relationship.

What probably differentiated this anime from the other stepsibling romances is that there is a genuine attempt at repressing these feelings. It's an interesting execution as far as I'm concerned.

Anyway, Director Ueno had to cram 4 volumes' worth of material in 12 episodes, so there has to be some changes.

Sep 30, 2024 8:03 PM

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Nirabu said:
SPOILER AHEAD FOR ANIME

Yeah there are changes from the Light novel last scene that took place in the school rather than saki's room and it was a very short scene but an emotional one.
But Anime made it a little more dramatic and more emotional which was a good decision from the direction point of view. And the last scene is fully Anime original.
Still I will say Light novel had a good scene where they accepted their love for others. But Anime did it better. There is not much difference and it's not ending with ambiguity. Both Asamura and Ayase accepted their feelings told each other even if it's a taboo or cause trouble for their parents. And Light novel continue from their how their develops.
Still it's sad that since it got a changed ending there will probably be no scope for season 2.

This right here is why I hate anime sometimes.

You make a 8 to 9/10 adaptation out of a 5 to 6/10 source material, and then just dip? If I had a nickel for every time a good show with some original elements ended at the first season I’d have enough to pay rent.

Sep 30, 2024 10:04 PM

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ejleon said:
@Densema I never said it was a "certain style", I said it was predictable and boring. There are a lot of anime that have the same serious tone, but that isn't even the issue here. They didn't even approach the situation with realistic or honest conviction.

They said that they'll protect what they have and figure things out together. What more honest and realistic conviction could you possibly want?

Oct 1, 2024 12:29 AM

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ejleon said:
@Densema I never said it was a "certain style", I said it was predictable and boring. There are a lot of anime that have the same serious tone, but that isn't even the issue here. They didn't even approach the situation with realistic or honest conviction.

They said that they'll protect what they have and figure things out together. What more honest and realistic conviction could you possibly want?

@ArashikageX You pick out a single thing that happened and then you ask why I don't like that

That is misrepresenting my point.

That part of the show was fine, but that does not mean other parts were fine.

ejleonOct 1, 2024 12:40 AM

Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Oct 1, 2024 1:29 AM

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ejleon said:
@ArashikageX You pick out a single thing that happened and then you ask why I don't like that

That is misrepresenting my point.

That part of the show was fine, but that does not mean other parts were fine.

okay , now I see you , but let me make some points clear to you not to change your opinion
but to make it clear , saki has issues in communication, so what she made in episode 3
was just clear that she would make it , and she wasn't normal , but from now on, she will be a normal girl. The second point hints that you hate it . For me, I love it , it helped me a lot to get on the story faster and not to get the wrong idea
and in some points, the hints helped the characters to get closer to each other, like maya on episode 5 and episode 11, and professor on episode 11 and senpai on the all show
sometimes hints help us to get to the next step when you can't make any progress or decisions in your life
so I respect you, man , and your opinion is very good , but sorry, it's not right . For me,
the storytelling and the storyline and the story, overall romantic and drama in it, and the atmosphere and the pace and the characters and the music op Ed and ost are all wonderful and amazing
and last thing , give it another chance to see it one more time or read LN , just one more chance
respect you again, and have a nice day 😊

Oct 1, 2024 2:22 AM

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Ahmedpower said:

ejleon said:
@ArashikageX You pick out a single thing that happened and then you ask why I don't like that

That is misrepresenting my point.

That part of the show was fine, but that does not mean other parts were fine.

okay , now I see you , but let me make some points clear to you not to change your opinion
but to make it clear , saki has issues in communication, so what she made in episode 3
was just clear that she would make it , and she wasn't normal , but from now on, she will be a normal girl. The second point hints that you hate it . For me, I love it , it helped me a lot to get on the story faster and not to get the wrong idea
and in some points, the hints helped the characters to get closer to each other, like maya on episode 5 and episode 11, and professor on episode 11 and senpai on the all show
sometimes hints help us to get to the next step when you can't make any progress or decisions in your life
so I respect you, man , and your opinion is very good , but sorry, it's not right . For me,
the storytelling and the storyline and the story, overall romantic and drama in it, and the atmosphere and the pace and the characters and the music op Ed and ost are all wonderful and amazing
and last thing , give it another chance to see it one more time or read LN , just one more chance
respect you again, and have a nice day 😊

I didn’t hate it, I said earlier that I thought it was boring and predictable, then after that someone asked me what I meant, and I explained above.

When I said “hint”, I’m not talking about hints to the main characters from side characters to help them in the story, I’m saying they made mention to anime/hentai that had step-siblings involved physically, which is more telling the audience what is going to happen before it happens, which I didn’t like. I want to watch it unfold in the story, not be told beforehand what is going to happen.

Also, you are picking out parts that are not of what I’m talking about, like the person above, again, I’m not literally talking about every part, there were some good things about the anime, but that is beside the point.

Maybe if they made a dub I’d watch it again, but it was just not interesting to me after things were ruined.

Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Oct 1, 2024 2:37 AM

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ejleon said:

Ahmedpower said:

okay , now I see you , but let me make some points clear to you not to change your opinion
but to make it clear , saki has issues in communication, so what she made in episode 3
was just clear that she would make it , and she wasn't normal , but from now on, she will be a normal girl. The second point hints that you hate it . For me, I love it , it helped me a lot to get on the story faster and not to get the wrong idea
and in some points, the hints helped the characters to get closer to each other, like maya on episode 5 and episode 11, and professor on episode 11 and senpai on the all show
sometimes hints help us to get to the next step when you can't make any progress or decisions in your life
so I respect you, man , and your opinion is very good , but sorry, it's not right . For me,
the storytelling and the storyline and the story, overall romantic and drama in it, and the atmosphere and the pace and the characters and the music op Ed and ost are all wonderful and amazing
and last thing , give it another chance to see it one more time or read LN , just one more chance
respect you again, and have a nice day 😊

I didn’t hate it, I said earlier that I thought it was boring and predictable, then after that someone asked me what I meant, and I explained above.

When I said “hint”, I’m not talking about hints to the main characters from side characters to help them in the story, I’m saying they made mention to anime/hentai that had step-siblings involved physically, which is more telling the audience what is going to happen before it happens, which I didn’t like. I want to watch it unfold in the story, not be told beforehand what is going to happen.

Also, you are picking out parts that are not of what I’m talking about, like the person above, again, I’m not literally talking about every part, there were some good things about the anime, but that is beside the point.

Maybe if they made a dub I’d watch it again, but it was just not interesting to me after things were ruined.

I respect your opinion that they burn to you the events before it happens, you want to be surprised, but for me it was great , but that's your opinion and I respect it

Oct 1, 2024 2:39 AM

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Ahmedpower said:

ejleon said:

I didn’t hate it, I said earlier that I thought it was boring and predictable, then after that someone asked me what I meant, and I explained above.

When I said “hint”, I’m not talking about hints to the main characters from side characters to help them in the story, I’m saying they made mention to anime/hentai that had step-siblings involved physically, which is more telling the audience what is going to happen before it happens, which I didn’t like. I want to watch it unfold in the story, not be told beforehand what is going to happen.

Also, you are picking out parts that are not of what I’m talking about, like the person above, again, I’m not literally talking about every part, there were some good things about the anime, but that is beside the point.

Maybe if they made a dub I’d watch it again, but it was just not interesting to me after things were ruined.

I respect your opinion that they burn to you the events before it happens, you want to be surprised, but for me it was great , but that's your opinion and I respect it

I see, so you want to be told what happens later at the beginning?

Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Oct 1, 2024 9:06 AM

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ejleon said:
@ArashikageX You pick out a single thing that happened and then you ask why I don't like that

That is misrepresenting my point.

That part of the show was fine, but that does not mean other parts were fine.

Yeah sure I'd love to know what parts of the show felt bad to you considering the overall setting and dynamic of the characters

Oct 1, 2024 1:58 PM

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ejleon said:

Ahmedpower said:

ejleon said:

Ahmedpower said:

ejleon said:
@ArashikageX You pick out a single thing that happened and then you ask why I don't like that

That is misrepresenting my point.

That part of the show was fine, but that does not mean other parts were fine.

okay , now I see you , but let me make some points clear to you not to change your opinion
but to make it clear , saki has issues in communication, so what she made in episode 3
was just clear that she would make it , and she wasn't normal , but from now on, she will be a normal girl. The second point hints that you hate it . For me, I love it , it helped me a lot to get on the story faster and not to get the wrong idea
and in some points, the hints helped the characters to get closer to each other, like maya on episode 5 and episode 11, and professor on episode 11 and senpai on the all show
sometimes hints help us to get to the next step when you can't make any progress or decisions in your life
so I respect you, man , and your opinion is very good , but sorry, it's not right . For me,
the storytelling and the storyline and the story, overall romantic and drama in it, and the atmosphere and the pace and the characters and the music op Ed and ost are all wonderful and amazing
and last thing , give it another chance to see it one more time or read LN , just one more chance
respect you again, and have a nice day 😊

I didn’t hate it, I said earlier that I thought it was boring and predictable, then after that someone asked me what I meant, and I explained above.

When I said “hint”, I’m not talking about hints to the main characters from side characters to help them in the story, I’m saying they made mention to anime/hentai that had step-siblings involved physically, which is more telling the audience what is going to happen before it happens, which I didn’t like. I want to watch it unfold in the story, not be told beforehand what is going to happen.

Also, you are picking out parts that are not of what I’m talking about, like the person above, again, I’m not literally talking about every part, there were some good things about the anime, but that is beside the point.

Maybe if they made a dub I’d watch it again, but it was just not interesting to me after things were ruined.

I respect your opinion that they burn to you the events before it happens, you want to be surprised, but for me it was great , but that's your opinion and I respect it

I see, so you want to be told what happens later at the beginning?

for me yeah , it will be good sometimes to know what is going on , surprise isn't good in every time

Oct 1, 2024 2:33 PM

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Ahmedpower said:

ejleon said:

Ahmedpower said:

ejleon said:

Ahmedpower said:

ejleon said:
@ArashikageX You pick out a single thing that happened and then you ask why I don't like that

That is misrepresenting my point.

That part of the show was fine, but that does not mean other parts were fine.

okay , now I see you , but let me make some points clear to you not to change your opinion
but to make it clear , saki has issues in communication, so what she made in episode 3
was just clear that she would make it , and she wasn't normal , but from now on, she will be a normal girl. The second point hints that you hate it . For me, I love it , it helped me a lot to get on the story faster and not to get the wrong idea
and in some points, the hints helped the characters to get closer to each other, like maya on episode 5 and episode 11, and professor on episode 11 and senpai on the all show
sometimes hints help us to get to the next step when you can't make any progress or decisions in your life
so I respect you, man , and your opinion is very good , but sorry, it's not right . For me,
the storytelling and the storyline and the story, overall romantic and drama in it, and the atmosphere and the pace and the characters and the music op Ed and ost are all wonderful and amazing
and last thing , give it another chance to see it one more time or read LN , just one more chance
respect you again, and have a nice day 😊

I didn’t hate it, I said earlier that I thought it was boring and predictable, then after that someone asked me what I meant, and I explained above.

When I said “hint”, I’m not talking about hints to the main characters from side characters to help them in the story, I’m saying they made mention to anime/hentai that had step-siblings involved physically, which is more telling the audience what is going to happen before it happens, which I didn’t like. I want to watch it unfold in the story, not be told beforehand what is going to happen.

Also, you are picking out parts that are not of what I’m talking about, like the person above, again, I’m not literally talking about every part, there were some good things about the anime, but that is beside the point.

Maybe if they made a dub I’d watch it again, but it was just not interesting to me after things were ruined.

I respect your opinion that they burn to you the events before it happens, you want to be surprised, but for me it was great , but that's your opinion and I respect it

I see, so you want to be told what happens later at the beginning?

for me yeah , it will be good sometimes to know what is going on , surprise isn't good in every time

I can understand your point.

Maybe, how they told the audience, is what I don’t like?

I don’t know, something really bothered me about how they chose to hint at things to come.

Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Oct 1, 2024 4:03 PM

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