Wistoria's Wand and Sword
| ye the main character should show the public how strong he is physically that physical strength can fight against magic but nope he rather try to be low key pathetic and suffer constant bullying from not using magic |
deg said: ye the main character should show the public how strong he is physically that physical strength can fight against magic but nope he rather try to be low key pathetic and suffer constant bullying from not using magic Lets have the same discussion after 3-4 more episodes |
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deg said:
ye the main character should show the public how strong he is physically that physical strength can fight against magic but nope he rather try to be low key pathetic and suffer constant bullying from not using magic
ye the main character should show the public how strong he is physically that physical strength can fight against magic but nope he rather try to be low key pathetic and suffer constant bullying from not using magic
Lets have the same discussion after 3-4 more episodes
| @V1P3R0P i already drop it since will is too passive for me i do not think he will change for the better because his nature is to be a pacifist like character |
Chits_99 said: They literally explain the credit system in details? How did you miss that and is now asking how does it work bruh? There's three catergory in which they earn credit. Magic, academics and then hunting monsters. Each have a cap of 5000 iirc and they need 12000 credit to pass. Will has reached max on academic 5000 and has a few hundred from the dungeon and is around 5600 ish iirc. The bigger badder monsters give credits in single digit so it's really hard to obtain credits from there. He wasn't just sitting idly for 3 years he was hunting and made a few hundred credits from there. But as he is unable to get any magic credential he'll never reach the requirement to pass. He did get some magic credits from the piece of shit proffessor after getting a hit on him though.Don't u think the way plot is st*pid?? First let me clear one thing, i absolutely don't hate this anime at all. It is literally one of the best anime of this season. Good animation, good action, avarage story (not new only that's why). But plot kind of don't make sense. Like we all know will have super natural physical strength. He may be strongest in class. And still he couldn't earn anything till now. Like what the hell he was doing past 3 years(idk remember how many year his school or college has).like he is smart, i mean in study. he work pretty hard for exams so he does good in written exams. So only question is about magic, and the kind school he is in, im pretty sure that showing flashy magics couldn't be only way to earn credits, like there no way that show magic and earn points is only way. I m preety sure that there would be task based exams, or defeat certain monsters, finished something or like that. Like im sure that he could do just fine using his raw strength and skills. Like he was able to land one hit on the person who is called, close to magia vander. So still if noone knows about him than I think entire blame fall on him. Like u should have countless opportunity where he could make people acknowledge him and shine. Like he made 2 teacher and even principal to do that. So what was he doing all this past years.Like he made promise to become magia vander, and he still care about people's opinion and all. We are talking about becoming of king elites standing on the peak of world. There is no way u can do that with that kind of attitude. I mean story is way to close to mashle, but in mashle mash is ready go against anyone to achieve his dreams.thats the only way u have.buy as for will what he did all this past years and why still he has this kind of attitude. I mean he himself said u earn credit based on skills u display. So why he still have this mentality? I mean u can't become top with this kind of mentality, like one of most important events coming and he is thinking about what people will think about him.like what is he expecting, organised totally different tornament for people who don't have magic power or something? Again absolutely no hate for anime. But it just feel weird to have mc with kind of mentality and attitude for story like this. As for his mentality, he's been oppressed since birth for not having magic. Heck he even was used so that his love interest would come to the academy and that was the only reason they let him admit there in the first place. He'll grow as the anime progresses just like how we see him get angry in the latest episode. |
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ye the main character should show the public how strong he is physically that physical strength can fight against magic but nope he rather try to be low key pathetic and suffer constant bullying from not using magic
deg said: Not every character is your edgy oh I'm op gotta kick everyone's ass/kill mentality and it's also just the start so he'll improve. Also you make it sound as if it's very easy to stand up to the entire academy alone lol.ye the main character should show the public how strong he is physically that physical strength can fight against magic but nope he rather try to be low key pathetic and suffer constant bullying from not using magic |
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deg said:
ye the main character should show the public how strong he is physically that physical strength can fight against magic but nope he rather try to be low key pathetic and suffer constant bullying from not using magic
Not every character is your edgy oh I'm op gotta kick everyone's ass/kill mentality and it's also just the start so he'll improve. Also you make it sound as if it's very easy to stand up to the entire academy alone lol.ye the main character should show the public how strong he is physically that physical strength can fight against magic but nope he rather try to be low key pathetic and suffer constant bullying from not using magic
| @MegamiRem not stand up to the academy but he should at least show up how strong he is physically since he is being bullied a lot basically some fight back from him would be nice and nope this passive character is a trope at this point |
| you gotta understand that japan does not promote individuality. so mc will grow through his achievements and gaining friends who believe in him thus being recognized through his perseverance. possible plot twist is usually power awakening or gaining something miraculous to turn the tide. |
| not as weird as censoring the word "stupid". I mean, fuck... how did it even cross your mind to censor that |
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@deg What good would that do. It would probably paint even more of a target on his back and maybe even get him locked up. Sorry things aren't as simple as they are in your head buddy lmfao
| @Dukino the head of the school and some teachers already know his strength heck even the higher up magicians know his power |
| Will’s character is a given at this point. The personal irritation I have in particular is why literally every superior mage has to act like a jerk towards him. For what? Are they really that confident or are they actually just very insecure about possibly losing to a deviant? Whenever that happens, it’s just really annoying and tiresome to watch, especially knowing the complicated circumstances. |
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Chits_99 said: @V1P3R0P no one i mean he not even taking seriously, like his current not even enough to go upper level education and he wasn't even gonna participate in tornament, just what exactly he was planning?? Society is not all rainbows and butterflies. He does the bare minimum to pass his classes and he thinks, thats enough for him and his goals. So I dont see a reason here why he needs to hit a gong and tell the world that he's strong. The bullying doesnt bother him much and if it bothers him or if he is confronted, he fights back. |
Chits_99 said: Don't u think the way plot is st*pid?? First let me clear one thing, i absolutely don't hate this anime at all. It is literally one of the best anime of this season. Good animation, good action, avarage story (not new only that's why). But plot kind of don't make sense. Like we all know will have super natural physical strength. He may be strongest in class. And still he couldn't earn anything till now. Like what the hell he was doing past 3 years(idk remember how many year his school or college has).like he is smart, i mean in study. he work pretty hard for exams so he does good in written exams. So only question is about magic, and the kind school he is in, im pretty sure that showing flashy magics couldn't be only way to earn credits, like there no way that show magic and earn points is only way. I m preety sure that there would be task based exams, or defeat certain monsters, finished something or like that. Like im sure that he could do just fine using his raw strength and skills. Like he was able to land one hit on the person who is called, close to magia vander. So still if noone knows about him than I think entire blame fall on him. Like u should have countless opportunity where he could make people acknowledge him and shine. Like he made 2 teacher and even principal to do that. So what was he doing all this past years.Like he made promise to become magia vander, and he still care about people's opinion and all. We are talking about becoming of king elites standing on the peak of world. There is no way u can do that with that kind of attitude. I mean story is way to close to mashle, but in mashle mash is ready go against anyone to achieve his dreams.thats the only way u have.buy as for will what he did all this past years and why still he has this kind of attitude. I mean he himself said u earn credit based on skills u display. So why he still have this mentality? I mean u can't become top with this kind of mentality, like one of most important events coming and he is thinking about what people will think about him.like what is he expecting, organised totally different tornament for people who don't have magic power or something? Again absolutely no hate for anime. But it just feel weird to have mc with kind of mentality and attitude for story like this. Some suggestions, (a) try not to write a huge block of text that doesn’t follow language / grammar rules, (b) try to organize your separate thoughts / points into paragraphs, (c) introduce each new thought / point clearly so the audience can follow along. Have you watched all the current episodes? A lot of the things you are asking were answered already. And in all honesty, this is not one of the best anime’s this season, it is maybe top 20 at best. |
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.  |
| @V1P3R0P no idea the higher ups should disclose to the public that info too to stop the bullying against him at least |
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deg said:
@MegamiRem not stand up to the academy but he should at least show up how strong he is physically since he is being bullied a lot basically some fight back from him would be nice
and nope this passive character is a trope at this point
@MegamiRem not stand up to the academy but he should at least show up how strong he is physically since he is being bullied a lot basically some fight back from him would be nice
and nope this passive character is a trope at this point
I'm pretty sure they just implied in this newest episode that he did that at a previous magic festival and he was ridiculed for it and ostracized by the whole crowd and academy. that led him to further fade into the background instead of trying to stand out
| @giftedxhands the higher ups of the magic circle already know how strong he is like i said the higher ups should disclose to the public that info about him to at least stop the bullying on him |
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@MegamiRem look i nowhere asked about credit system. I may don't know about it in detail but i had gist of it like u earn it from academic exams, other way is dungeon but since he only got 4 points after defeating that moster, i knew it was slow process but the point was magic.Like i said this field don't necessarily mean,earn more points if have more magic or u can only earn points if u can display your spells . it is not Pokemon, basically what I'm saying that there would be numbers opportunities to earn points in magic. Like defeating others people in tornament or taking part in other magic compitition , or anything like task which need magic to be completed. Author literally don't give f*ck about explaining that or any of the past years. Also will is not even trying. Like he himself said in tornament u earn points based on the skills u display. So he need breaks so many stereotypes to achieve something. not just sitting around and waiting to miracles to happen. Man u are aiming to become top class of the world.
| @Chits_99 As someone else pointed out your text is bloated and hard to get your point across and some of the things you asked has already been answered in the anime. As for whatever else you are asking maybe wait for more episodes to get the full picture. |
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Chits_99 said:
Don't u think the way plot is st*pid?? First let me clear one thing, i absolutely don't hate this anime at all. It is literally one of the best anime of this season. Good animation, good action, avarage story (not new only that's why). But plot kind of don't make sense. Like we all know will have super natural physical strength. He may be strongest in class. And still he couldn't earn anything till now. Like what the hell he was doing past 3 years(idk remember how many year his school or college has).like he is smart, i mean in study. he work pretty hard for exams so he does good in written exams. So only question is about magic, and the kind school he is in, im pretty sure that showing flashy magics couldn't be only way to earn credits, like there no way that show magic and earn points is only way. I m preety sure that there would be task based exams, or defeat certain monsters, finished something or like that. Like im sure that he could do just fine using his raw strength and skills. Like he was able to land one hit on the person who is called, close to magia vander. So still if noone knows about him than I think entire blame fall on him. Like u should have countless opportunity where he could make people acknowledge him and shine. Like he made 2 teacher and even principal to do that. So what was he doing all this past years.Like he made promise to become magia vander, and he still care about people's opinion and all. We are talking about becoming of king elites standing on the peak of world. There is no way u can do that with that kind of attitude. I mean story is way to close to mashle, but in mashle mash is ready go against anyone to achieve his dreams.thats the only way u have.buy as for will what he did all this past years and why still he has this kind of attitude. I mean he himself said u earn credit based on skills u display. So why he still have this mentality? I mean u can't become top with this kind of mentality, like one of most important events coming and he is thinking about what people will think about him.like what is he expecting, organised totally different tornament for people who don't have magic power or something? Again absolutely no hate for anime. But it just feel weird to have mc with kind of mentality and attitude for story like this.
Don't u think the way plot is st*pid?? First let me clear one thing, i absolutely don't hate this anime at all. It is literally one of the best anime of this season. Good animation, good action, avarage story (not new only that's why). But plot kind of don't make sense. Like we all know will have super natural physical strength. He may be strongest in class. And still he couldn't earn anything till now. Like what the hell he was doing past 3 years(idk remember how many year his school or college has).like he is smart, i mean in study. he work pretty hard for exams so he does good in written exams. So only question is about magic, and the kind school he is in, im pretty sure that showing flashy magics couldn't be only way to earn credits, like there no way that show magic and earn points is only way. I m preety sure that there would be task based exams, or defeat certain monsters, finished something or like that. Like im sure that he could do just fine using his raw strength and skills. Like he was able to land one hit on the person who is called, close to magia vander. So still if noone knows about him than I think entire blame fall on him. Like u should have countless opportunity where he could make people acknowledge him and shine. Like he made 2 teacher and even principal to do that. So what was he doing all this past years.Like he made promise to become magia vander, and he still care about people's opinion and all. We are talking about becoming of king elites standing on the peak of world. There is no way u can do that with that kind of attitude. I mean story is way to close to mashle, but in mashle mash is ready go against anyone to achieve his dreams.thats the only way u have.buy as for will what he did all this past years and why still he has this kind of attitude. I mean he himself said u earn credit based on skills u display. So why he still have this mentality? I mean u can't become top with this kind of mentality, like one of most important events coming and he is thinking about what people will think about him.like what is he expecting, organised totally different tornament for people who don't have magic power or something? Again absolutely no hate for anime. But it just feel weird to have mc with kind of mentality and attitude for story like this.
Some suggestions, (a) try not to write a huge block of text that doesn’t follow language / grammar rules, (b) try to organize your separate thoughts / points into paragraphs, (c) introduce each new thought / point clearly so the audience can follow along.
Have you watched all the current episodes? A lot of the things you are asking were answered already.
And in all honesty, this is not one of the best anime’s this season, it is maybe top 20 at best.
ejleon said: I'd like to know the other 19 anime ahead of it.And in all honesty, this is not one of the best anime’s this season, it is maybe top 20 at best. |
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| @V1P3R0P you are free to give spoilers to me since i already drop it anyway the mc will is like bell from danmachi but much worse so far so i might just stick to watching danmachi instead since its the same author anyway |
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@giftedxhands the higher ups of the magic circle already know how strong he is like i said the higher ups should disclose to the public that info about him to at least stop the bullying on him
deg said: Teachers in regular school irl or anime don't even get involved to stop bullying lol. Why do you think that will happen in a magic academy where someone who cant even use magic is admitted to. There will be one or two people who care like in this anime too and most don't care/ignore and some will dislike them instead.@giftedxhands the higher ups of the magic circle already know how strong he is like i said the higher ups should disclose to the public that info about him to at least stop the bullying on him |
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deg said:
@giftedxhands the higher ups of the magic circle already know how strong he is like i said the higher ups should disclose to the public that info about him to at least stop the bullying on him
Teachers in regular school irl or anime don't even get involved to stop bullying lol. Why do you think that will happen in a magic academy where someone who cant even use magic is admitted to. There will be one or two people who care like in this anime too and most don't care/ignore and some will dislike them instead.@giftedxhands the higher ups of the magic circle already know how strong he is like i said the higher ups should disclose to the public that info about him to at least stop the bullying on him
| @MegamiRem that is no excuse for the teachers to be passive when they know that bullying exist on a specific student |
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@MegamiRem not stand up to the academy but he should at least show up how strong he is physically since he is being bullied a lot basically some fight back from him would be nice
and nope this passive character is a trope at this point
and nope this passive character is a trope at this point
deg said: What makes you think he didn't try before?@MegamiRem not stand up to the academy but he should at least show up how strong he is physically since he is being bullied a lot basically some fight back from him would be nice and nope this passive character is a trope at this point Well ofc it's a trope, everything is a trope at this point. If it's not your cup of tea move on and watch something u enjoy. |
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deg said:
@giftedxhands the higher ups of the magic circle already know how strong he is like i said the higher ups should disclose to the public that info about him to at least stop the bullying on him
@giftedxhands the higher ups of the magic circle already know how strong he is like i said the higher ups should disclose to the public that info about him to at least stop the bullying on him
just thinking about real life, even when highers talk to people it doesn't guarantee bullying will stop. just a thought though
| @giftedxhands but at least they tried and im sure it will lessen |
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@MegamiRem that is no excuse for the teachers to be passive when they know that bullying exist on a specific student
deg said: Thats not an excuse, that's just how life works. Go at some irl school and do research you'll see that's the case. They don't care untill it becomes very dire and they gotta save school image which won't be the case here.@MegamiRem that is no excuse for the teachers to be passive when they know that bullying exist on a specific student |
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deg said:
@MegamiRem not stand up to the academy but he should at least show up how strong he is physically since he is being bullied a lot basically some fight back from him would be nice
and nope this passive character is a trope at this point
What makes you think he didn't try before?@MegamiRem not stand up to the academy but he should at least show up how strong he is physically since he is being bullied a lot basically some fight back from him would be nice
and nope this passive character is a trope at this point
Well ofc it's a trope, everything is a trope at this point. If it's not your cup of tea move on and watch something u enjoy.
| @MegamiRem thats the thing i already drop it like i said but people keep on replying to me |
deg said: @V1P3R0P no idea the higher ups should disclose to the public that info too to stop the bullying against him at least Edit: I just read the previous conversation, I didn’t mean to bother you or be disrespectful, just thought I give my perspective. If you don’t want to answer, please know I understand. They have no reason to stop their behavior. The school is founded on magic study and excellence in magic, they all look down on those without or with little magical talent, and those without or little look up to those with magical talent, the entire society is based on having magic. The only reason the male MC was allowed in, was to bait the talented magical genius female love interest. The reason his enrollment was now being questioned, is because she moved up higher, so they felt no reason to continue being silent. Everyone in the entire academy, except a few, have the same exact question, “Why is this person, without magic, even here?”, so teachers / students telling him to leave, mocking him, pressuring him, is in character. Telling them the reason he was allowed to get in or the reason they allowed him to stay, would only cause more hate and problems. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
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@MegamiRem thats the thing i already drop it like i said but people keep on replying to me
| @deg Well you are the one who replied here in the first place so ofc people will too lol, anyway. |
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deg said:
@MegamiRem that is no excuse for the teachers to be passive when they know that bullying exist on a specific student
Thats not an excuse, that's just how life works. Go at some irl school and do research you'll see that's the case. They don't care untill it becomes very dire and they gotta save school image which won't be the case here.@MegamiRem that is no excuse for the teachers to be passive when they know that bullying exist on a specific student
| @MegamiRem just because its normal does not mean it should always be the case what is reform and improvements even about then? |
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deg said:
@V1P3R0P no idea the higher ups should disclose to the public that info too to stop the bullying against him at least
@V1P3R0P no idea the higher ups should disclose to the public that info too to stop the bullying against him at least
Edit: I just read the previous conversation, I didn’t mean to bother you or be disrespectful, just thought I give my perspective. If you don’t want to answer, please know I understand.
They have no reason to stop their behavior.
The school is founded on magic study and excellence in magic, they all look down on those without or with little magical talent, and those without or little look up to those with magical talent, the entire society is based on having magic.
The only reason the male MC was allowed in, was to bait the talented magical genius female love interest.
The reason his enrollment was now being questioned, is because she moved up higher, so they felt no reason to continue being silent.
Everyone in the entire academy, except a few, have the same exact question, “Why is this person, without magic, even here?”, so teachers / students telling him to leave, mocking him, pressuring him, is in character.
Telling them the reason he was allowed to get in or the reason they allowed him to stay, would only cause more hate and problems.
| @ejleon not if the higher ups back him up strongly like what happen with kafka in kaiju 8 he was supported by the highest general himself |
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@deg Well you are the one who replied here in the first place so ofc people will too lol, anyway.
| @MegamiRem you can also check my profile i dropped it there anyway |
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@MegamiRem just because its normal does not mean it should always be the case what is reform and improvements even about then?
deg said: I'm not saying what's right/wrong should always happen/or not happen and only answering ur initial question of why it's happening. Anyway since u dropped it, no reason to argue more. Enjoy something else. What r u watching this season? You mostly watch original/complete adaptation/potential complete adaptation ones right?@MegamiRem just because its normal does not mean it should always be the case what is reform and improvements even about then? |
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deg said:
@MegamiRem just because its normal does not mean it should always be the case what is reform and improvements even about then?
I'm not saying what's right/wrong should always happen/or not happen and only answering ur initial question of why it's happening. Anyway since u dropped it, no reason to argue more. Enjoy something else. What r u watching this season? You mostly watch original/complete adaptation/potential complete adaptation ones right?@MegamiRem just because its normal does not mean it should always be the case what is reform and improvements even about then?
| @MegamiRem ye and sakuga fest anime so there is elusive samurai on my watching list too |
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@MegamiRem ye and sakuga fest anime so there is elusive samurai on my watching list too
| @deg Yeah it's been great but last two episode had heavy cg usage not that it was bad but hopefully there won't be more unless they want to do all the horse movements cg cause it's easier/less time consuming as horse movements are hard to animate. |
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