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The AT-X page does not indicate any age restrictions so it seems like the anime will be censored unfortunately.

Feb 29, 2024 9:25 AM

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oh nice there's a release date, tbh i completely forgot it was coming this year lol

Feb 29, 2024 3:54 PM

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The AT-X page does not indicate any age restrictions so it seems like the anime will be censored unfortunately.

@DarkDooM2 Considering Kadokawa is the main producer and was outspoken in supporting censorship in the last few years I'm not that surprised, and Blu-Rays aren't even a cope at this point with how many series remain censored in BD releases nowadays.
Just whack honestly, why even put this on a paid subscription channel like AT-X if it doesn't offer anything? I can't really imagine it's cheaper airtime either, advertisements are one thing IIRC that are (usually) cheaper for cable, but 20-30 minutes is another story altogether.

Welp, guess I'll just be looking to see when the first round of BDs release and then wait until then without any expectations.

Mar 9, 2024 9:42 PM

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The AT-X page does not indicate any age restrictions so it seems like the anime will be censored unfortunately.

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We will know immediately in the first episode since in the very first manga chapter there are full bare boobs.
If that single scene is out, then it's over. If it is at least censored with steam, then we will see later in the BDs.

Mar 9, 2024 9:47 PM

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@DarkDooM2 Considering Kadokawa is the main producer and was outspoken in supporting censorship in the last few years I'm not that surprised, and Blu-Rays aren't even a cope at this point with how many series remain censored in BD releases nowadays.
Just whack honestly, why even put this on a paid subscription channel like AT-X if it doesn't offer anything? I can't really imagine it's cheaper airtime either, advertisements are one thing IIRC that are (usually) cheaper for cable, but 20-30 minutes is another story altogether.

Welp, guess I'll just be looking to see when the first round of BDs release and then wait until then without any expectations.

@RKGS
But Kadokawa has released some bangers regarding fanservice. Like Megami-ryou, Isekai Meikyuu and the latest hit Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete.
No idea how involved they have been with each one of these but those shows are there. Let's hope for the best.

Mar 10, 2024 4:18 AM

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But Kadokawa has released some bangers regarding fanservice. Like Megami-ryou, Isekai Meikyuu and the latest hit Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete.
No idea how involved they have been with each one of these but those shows are there. Let's hope for the best.

@Fate_warrior95 Kadokawa had much less sway in all of those series, especially MahoAko and Isekai Meikyuu. Also most of Megami-ryou's work was done before Kadokawa's President went and preached and praised censorship in the same year.

This series on the other hand they basically had full control, the only other producers are music which obviously has no input on what the studio does. Let's also not forget how the Megumin spinoff aggressively censored one of the main characters too.

Oh, and I can say with near 100% certainty that the worst came to pass. There was an early airing stream on Kadokawa's channel today (region locked to Japan unfortunately) for the first few episodes and I was informed by a friend in the country that it is censored, badly. Apparently not even light beams or what have you covering stuff, just completely different angles and parts kept out of the point of view. That's basically a guarantee that even blurays are useless, in case anyone was going to mistakenly believe in them as a last resort, since there's no way they're going to completely redraw several entire frames from new POVs for blurays.

I'd just like if Kadokawa stopped adapting ecchi series altogether considering all this.

Mar 10, 2024 5:38 AM

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Oh, and I can say with near 100% certainty that the worst came to pass. There was an early airing stream on Kadokawa's channel today (region locked to Japan unfortunately) for the first few episodes and I was informed by a friend in the country that it is censored, badly. Apparently not even light beams or what have you covering stuff, just completely different angles and parts kept out of the point of view. That's basically a guarantee that even blurays are useless, in case anyone was going to mistakenly believe in them as a last resort, since there's no way they're going to completely redraw several entire frames from new POVs for blurays.

Damn, I missed the stream. Luckily I got some screenshots from japanese boards and damn you're right. The shower scene was shown from a different angle so chances of an uncensored version later on are pretty much nonexistent. It seems like naked butts in later scenes were also censored. An underwear scene of Oto made it in however.
Unsurprisingly the japanese are also furious about this. The eroticism made up a good amount of the fun I had with this manga...

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Mar 10, 2024 1:19 PM

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Oh, and I can say with near 100% certainty that the worst came to pass. There was an early airing stream on Kadokawa's channel today (region locked to Japan unfortunately) for the first few episodes and I was informed by a friend in the country that it is censored, badly. Apparently not even light beams or what have you covering stuff, just completely different angles and parts kept out of the point of view. That's basically a guarantee that even blurays are useless, in case anyone was going to mistakenly believe in them as a last resort, since there's no way they're going to completely redraw several entire frames from new POVs for blurays.

Damn, I missed the stream. Luckily I got some screenshots from japanese boards and damn you're right. The shower scene was shown from a different angle so chances of an uncensored version later on are pretty much nonexistent. It seems like naked butts in later scenes were also censored. An underwear scene of Oto made it in however.
Unsurprisingly the japanese are also furious about this. The eroticism made up a good amount of the fun I had with this manga...

@DarkDooM2 I mean yeah, literally part of the description of the series even in Japanese is talking about "sexuality" and now that aspect is pretty much completely gone.

I just really don't get the mindset behind adapting ecchi series and then censoring the snot out of them. Could you imagine if battle series anime adaptations censored all the punches or kicks that connected with other characters with convenient angles or foreground objects blocking view? It's just bizarre.

Also, do you have any proof about this "Unsurprisingly the japanese are also furious about this." part? Usually I see basically no complaints from the Japanese when stuff like this happens, my friend said the comments on the stream didn't mention it at all.

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Mar 10, 2024 2:43 PM

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RKGS said:
Also, do you have any proof about this "Unsurprisingly the japanese are also furious about this." part? Usually I see basically no complaints from the Japanese when stuff like this happens, my friend said the comments on the stream didn't mention it at all.

Well yeah, the japanese do not often openly criticize something, especially not something "dirty" like nudity and ecchi. You'll have to go to anonymous boards to see some unfiltered opinions on the matter.
http://tsumanne.net/si/data/2024/03/10/9223541/
http://tsumanne.net/si/data/2024/03/10/9223507/

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I mean yeah, literally part of the description of the series even in Japanese is talking about "sexuality" and now that aspect is pretty much completely gone.

Funny you say that, I've actually seen at least one japanese making the exact same comment. "Without nudity this is just Kaii to Kamikakushi without the Otome part", or something like that.

Mar 10, 2024 9:04 PM

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Also, do you have any proof about this "Unsurprisingly the japanese are also furious about this." part? Usually I see basically no complaints from the Japanese when stuff like this happens, my friend said the comments on the stream didn't mention it at all.

Well yeah, the japanese do not often openly criticize something, especially not something "dirty" like nudity and ecchi. You'll have to go to anonymous boards to see some unfiltered opinions on the matter.
http://tsumanne.net/si/data/2024/03/10/9223541/
http://tsumanne.net/si/data/2024/03/10/9223507/

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I mean yeah, literally part of the description of the series even in Japanese is talking about "sexuality" and now that aspect is pretty much completely gone.

Funny you say that, I've actually seen at least one japanese making the exact same comment. "Without nudity this is just Kaii to Kamikakushi without the Otome part", or something like that.

@DarkDooM2 Guess that makes sense considering their culture, bit of a shame though. If they were just even a little more bold and vocal in their discontent to their media companies maybe some of this would change? IDK, it's just been an absolute slog watching so many series with nudity just get sterilized over the last several years. Even non-ecchi like Hell's Paradise/Jigokuraku cut it out.

Mar 11, 2024 6:41 AM

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Even non-ecchi like Hell's Paradise/Jigokuraku cut it out

Instead of stating that even non-ecchi shows are subject to censorship, I would say that it is precisely non-ecchi shows that face a higher likelihood of censorship. When it comes to overtly ecchi shows, there's often little room for maneuvering; they can either adapt as is or not adapt at all.

For show producers, maximizing sales takes priority. If incorporating a few nude scenes, pantyshots, or bare asses would elevate the rating and subsequently hinder the show's marketability to certain television stations, streaming platforms, or international licensors, the logical response would often come down to editing or toning down those scenes to conform to lower PG ratings.

Consider titles like Jigokuraku, Summertime Render, or Tengoku Daimakyou, which feature minimal nudity. By slightly altering certain scenes, such as drawing breasts without nipples or adjusting perspectives, a significant number of potential issues can be sidestepped without causing too much "damage". This also holds true for the various isekai stories saturating the market, like Saikyou Tank this season, which is censoring all the pantyshots in the anime while paradoxically showcasing just that in the promotional material.

It's the sad reality of an increasingly globalized anime industry.

Mar 11, 2024 12:40 PM

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Damn, are you serious? Taking out one of the draws of the manga that make it appealing? If it's actually censored I ain't watching this.

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Mar 11, 2024 3:35 PM

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RKGS said:
Even non-ecchi like Hell's Paradise/Jigokuraku cut it out

Instead of stating that even non-ecchi shows are subject to censorship, I would say that it is precisely non-ecchi shows that face a higher likelihood of censorship. When it comes to overtly ecchi shows, there's often little room for maneuvering; they can either adapt as is or not adapt at all.

For show producers, maximizing sales takes priority. If incorporating a few nude scenes, pantyshots, or bare asses would elevate the rating and subsequently hinder the show's marketability to certain television stations, streaming platforms, or international licensors, the logical response would often come down to editing or toning down those scenes to conform to lower PG ratings.

Consider titles like Jigokuraku, Summertime Render, or Tengoku Daimakyou, which feature minimal nudity. By slightly altering certain scenes, such as drawing breasts without nipples or adjusting perspectives, a significant number of potential issues can be sidestepped without causing too much "damage". This also holds true for the various isekai stories saturating the market, like Saikyou Tank this season, which is censoring all the pantyshots in the anime while paradoxically showcasing just that in the promotional material.

It's the sad reality of an increasingly globalized anime industry.

@DarkDooM2 That's just a typical apologist angle and doesn't even deserve a long response, just know that age ratings and marketability are just "boy cried wolf" tier fearmongering. People do it all the time when video games get censored too and there is still zero proof that any game receiving a higher age rating would affect its sales, especially considering mature rated games are often the best sellers, like GTA.
Japanese TV stations like AT-X have separate SFW/NSFW airings for other series currently airing that show nudity too, so it's just dishonest to even bring this up.

Mar 11, 2024 4:08 PM

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@RKGS I don't agree with it myself, but I'm quite convinced that this mindset is a large part of the reason why nudity is being done away with so often. AT-X is a private Pay-TV channel, dunno how this factors in your argument.

Mar 11, 2024 4:13 PM

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@RKGS I don't agree with it myself, but I'm quite convinced that this mindset is a large part of the reason why nudity is being done away with so often. AT-X is a private Pay-TV channel, dunno how this factors in your argument.

@DarkDooM2 I explicitly stated why. They have all ages and restricted age versions of shows they air at different times.
The fact that it's a private paid channel means they can get away with more airing it on there, but the studio still chose not to do it, most likely at Kadokawa's request. Again though, there's no hope for BDs anyway since they completely redrew the scenes from different angles.

Mar 11, 2024 4:25 PM

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I explicitly stated why. They have all ages and restricted age versions of shows they air at different times.
The fact that it's a private paid channel means they can get away with more airing it on there, but the studio still chose not to do it, most likely at Kadokawa's request. Again though, there's no hope for BDs anyway since they completely redrew the scenes from different angles.

Indeed, but that's seemingly not enough reason for whoever's making the decisions to request two separate versions, censored and uncensored, to be made. I doubt we'd have had much luck with steam censorship either to be honest. Shows like Megami no Café Terrace have shown that they often just don't care.

Mar 25, 2024 7:02 PM

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Knew they were gonna fucking censor it.

Mar 25, 2024 8:22 PM

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Knew they were gonna fucking censor it.

@sonictoryuiai Yep, what's even the point of adapting something like this if you don't even include one of the appeals of it? It even had "and sexuality" in the description. It's like they don't want this anime to do well.

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Mar 25, 2024 9:27 PM

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@sonictoryuiai Yep, what's even the point of adapting something like this if you don't even include one of the appeals of it? It even had "and sexuality" in the description. It's like they don't want this anime to do well.

@Tropisch Turns out some ReZero girls are having their outfits censored in the upcoming season, and the character designer stated on twitter recently that ol' "for global audiences" nonsense being the reason.
I'm guessing that's probably not too far off for what's happening here, otherwise I don't see the point of butchering a late night ecchi (supposed to, isn't now) anime.

Mar 26, 2024 8:56 AM

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@Tropisch Turns out some ReZero girls are having their outfits censored in the upcoming season, and the character designer stated on twitter recently that ol' "for global audiences" nonsense being the reason.
I'm guessing that's probably not too far off for what's happening here, otherwise I don't see the point of butchering a late night ecchi (supposed to, isn't now) anime.

@RKGS I'm so sick of this crap, guess I'm expecting too much for new ecchi to be honest with all this "global audience" crap. Yeah, let's make a show neutered for people who were never going to watch it to begin with.

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Mar 26, 2024 9:01 AM

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@RKGS I'm so sick of this crap, guess I'm expecting too much for new ecchi to be honest with all this "global audience" crap. Yeah, let's make a show neutered for people who were never going to watch it to begin with.

@Tropisch

Exactly. These are regulations that only cater to people who aren't watching Anime, anyways. Someone beeing outraged somewhere actually MATTERS now, for some inane reason...

This world is finished xD

Mar 28, 2024 1:01 AM

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I explicitly stated why. They have all ages and restricted age versions of shows they air at different times.
The fact that it's a private paid channel means they can get away with more airing it on there, but the studio still chose not to do it, most likely at Kadokawa's request. Again though, there's no hope for BDs anyway since they completely redrew the scenes from different angles.

Indeed, but that's seemingly not enough reason for whoever's making the decisions to request two separate versions, censored and uncensored, to be made. I doubt we'd have had much luck with steam censorship either to be honest. Shows like Megami no Café Terrace have shown that they often just don't care.

@DarkDooM2 I'll never understand why Goddess Cafe Terrace was so afraid to show bare butts in the anime. I can at least understand it with nipples, but now even asses are too much to show? And it was an ecchi anime too ffs.

Censorship and puritanism have invaded anime so much that even ecchi shows aren't safe from censorship anymore. And what sucks about Kaii to Otome getting censored is that with this we now have lost every bit of hope for ecchi this upcoming spring season. There's not a single anime airing next season, just like how Fall 2023 was.

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@sonictoryuiai Yep, what's even the point of adapting something like this if you don't even include one of the appeals of it? It even had "and sexuality" in the description. It's like they don't want this anime to do well.

@Tropisch next season already doesn't have a single ecchi anime airing to begin with. This anime was the only one in which I saw some potential, but of course, they just had to ruin this with censorship too.

Mar 28, 2024 4:39 AM

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I'll never understand why Goddess Cafe Terrace was so afraid to show bare butts in the anime. I can at least understand it with nipples, but now even asses are too much to show? And it was an ecchi anime too ffs.

Yeah, honestly I don't quite understand it either. What exactly are the rules on uncensored buttocks? There are some shows that are not even fanservice oriented that still show them in all their glory, and then there are shows like this and Megami no Café Terrace that should be focused on fanservice yet censor them. Pretty much everything seems to be allowed for Kaii to Otome to Kamikakushi, besides nipples and naked butts. It feels like there was a sudden shift in acceptance of naked butts a few years ago.

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I'll never understand why Goddess Cafe Terrace was so afraid to show bare butts in the anime. I can at least understand it with nipples, but now even asses are too much to show? And it was an ecchi anime too ffs.

Yeah, honestly I don't quite understand it either. What exactly are the rules on uncensored buttocks? There are some shows that are not even fanservice oriented that still show them in all their glory, and then there are shows like this and Megami no Café Terrace that should be focused on fanservice yet censor them. Pretty much everything seems to be allowed for Kaii to Otome to Kamikakushi, besides nipples and naked butts. It feels like there was a sudden shift in acceptance of naked butts a few years ago.

@DarkDooM2 I remember somebody saying how excited they were to buy the BDs of Goddess Cafe Terrace and had his money ready, but when he found out that they kept all the annoying steam and light beams intact, he immediately changed his mind. It's so weird because that anime has the same studio and director as Kanojo mo Kanojo, which did remove most of its steam and light beams in the BDs. And that show wasn't even an ecchi. So I don't understand why a show like Cafe Terrace couldn't get the same treatment from them. I still can't believe they kept the bathhouse scene like that.

Mar 28, 2024 7:25 PM

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@Tropisch next season already doesn't have a single ecchi anime airing to begin with. This anime was the only one in which I saw some potential, but of course, they just had to ruin this with censorship too.

@Nucleus69 Might as well just go and watch older ecchi now to be honest, because this looks like the trend going forward unfortunately with new ecchi.

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Mar 30, 2024 3:00 AM

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Does anyone know where this will be streaming at or will i have to find a place on the internet to watch it?

Mar 31, 2024 12:30 PM

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Well fuck another anime bite to dust

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@Nucleus69 Might as well just go and watch older ecchi now to be honest, because this looks like the trend going forward unfortunately with new ecchi.

@Tropisch @DarkDooM2

let's make a detailed post about these ecchi anime and censorship at the end of this year. That will determine if ecchi anime is worth anymore or not.

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I'll never understand why Goddess Cafe Terrace was so afraid to show bare butts in the anime. I can at least understand it with nipples, but now even asses are too much to show? And it was an ecchi anime too ffs.

Yeah, honestly I don't quite understand it either. What exactly are the rules on uncensored buttocks? There are some shows that are not even fanservice oriented that still show them in all their glory, and then there are shows like this and Megami no Café Terrace that should be focused on fanservice yet censor them. Pretty much everything seems to be allowed for Kaii to Otome to Kamikakushi, besides nipples and naked butts. It feels like there was a sudden shift in acceptance of naked butts a few years ago.

@DarkDooM2 @Tropisch this is from ron komohashi aired in Oct 02, 2023 to Dec 25, 2023. adokawa was one of the producers funny thing is aside from this scene. This anime doesn't have a single fan service element at all oreven ecchi but this scene got passed idk who the fuck is in the incharge of kaii to otome.

Edit - tales of wedding right too which just finished airing.

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Well there goes my reason for watching.

@kratos960203 Winter 2024 Ecchis:
Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete - Good
Kekkon Yubiwa Monogatari - Uncensored and even added nipples to scenes where the manga didn't have them
Mato Seihei no Slave - Allegedly uncensored, adaptation was butchered to hell and back
Isekai Onsen Paradise - Uncensored, but aired on an obscure streaming service leading to most people accidentally picking up the censored TV version

As for this season, looks like the most we're getting is this and the one with the angel.
Feast and famine.

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