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Dec 25, 2023 4:53 AM
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I am pretty sure most people dont have any issues with this but still i've seen some people voice complaints about elaina being a "self-centered bitch" for not helping everyone in need.
In the 3rd episode "bottled happiness" its is mentioned that "just because you are doing something for someone else doesnt make it right" and i think this aptly describes worldview of Elaina even though she was like "ooops i forgot, teehee" which i thought was stupid, you could argue that the idea itself was lodged into her subconsciousness.
Anyway the point is and i think it is also the biggest theme of this story, you cant predict the outcome of your actions, pretty much everytime we see the outcome of someones actions they were always unexpected sometimes good sometimes bad (i would say more often bad but that would depend on what you would consider bad) so in a way it makes sense to be a pure observer
Dec 25, 2023 5:08 AM
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It can be explained much easier. That's usually how humans are. Like how often people give homeless people some money? That's a pretty rare occasion.
Dec 25, 2023 5:10 AM
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It can be explained much easier. That's usually how humans are. Like how often people give homeless people some money? That's a pretty rare occasion.

there's a law here in the Philippines that says you can't give money to beggars
Dec 25, 2023 5:10 AM
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She isn’t a saint she a witch
Dec 25, 2023 5:15 AM
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it has been a while since I last watched this show but I agree that "you can't predict the outcome of your action" is a big part of it, it is especially implied in one of the later episodes that was pretty traumatizing, but aside from that she is just on a journey, she isn't an adventurer so it is he duty to help everyone in need
Dec 25, 2023 5:17 AM
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egosumjk said:
ktg said:
It can be explained much easier. That's usually how humans are. Like how often people give homeless people some money? That's a pretty rare occasion.

there's a law here in the Philippines that says you can't give money to beggars

There's a law in Hungary that says being homeless is illegal. That was our government's solution to the homeless problem.
I also assume that no one really cares about this law, because we don't even have enough police officers.
Dec 25, 2023 5:18 AM
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Her master did a huge mistake by graduating her after she beat her in a duel and thrown a tantrum. She completely lacks humility and with power and authority the title of witch grants, comes great responsibility.
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Dec 25, 2023 5:21 AM
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she is a witch bro, what you expect
Dec 25, 2023 5:35 AM
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I mean it’s kinda realistic in a dark way. Like I mean if you saw someone being abused who you just met the most you would do is inform the police but in her world I doubt it was so simple. Especially considering In the episode were the village chief had a servant who he wasn’t treating right it’s not like she could just report him, he’s literally the village chief, she might have got into a bad situation if she did, So I guess in that sense you could call her selfish but she was prioritising her own life over someone she just met.

To add another situation the case of the girl who was in the flower field this wasn’t actually mentioned in the anime but the girl was already beyond help, when Elaina found her the women had been absorbed by the plant and freeing her would just get her killed, so in that situation Elaina quite literally couldn’t do anything,

Idk I find Elaina’s outlook on everything to be more realistic than most mc’s, because not everyone irl is gonna act like your perfect protagonist who saves everyone, Elaina ain’t a hero she’s just a girl and I find that realism to be one of the reasons why she’s my favourite anime character.


At least that’s my take on it.
Dec 25, 2023 5:41 AM
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Well, Elaina is a witch and not a superhero. She never vowed or declared that she would be a savior of all humanity.



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Dec 25, 2023 5:55 AM
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@asalkur You don't have the ability to help everyone you see. Even if you could in a way your not helping them. If they think you'll be around when anything goes wrong they expect you to be there.
Dec 25, 2023 5:59 AM
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I mean it’s kinda realistic in a dark way. Like I mean if you saw someone being abused who you just met the most you would do is inform the police but in her world I doubt it was so simple. Especially considering In the episode were the village chief had a servant who he wasn’t treating right it’s not like she could just report him, he’s literally the village chief, she might have got into a bad situation if she did, So I guess in that sense you could call her selfish but she was prioritising her own life over someone she just met.

To add another situation the case of the girl who was in the flower field this wasn’t actually mentioned in the anime but the girl was already beyond help, when Elaina found her the women had been absorbed by the plant and freeing her would just get her killed, so in that situation Elaina quite literally couldn’t do anything,

Idk I find Elaina’s outlook on everything to be more realistic than most mc’s, because not everyone irl is gonna act like your perfect protagonist who saves everyone, Elaina ain’t a hero she’s just a girl and I find that realism to be one of the reasons why she’s my favourite anime character.


At least that’s my take on it.
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To add another situation the case of the girl who was in the flower field this wasn’t actually mentioned in the anime but the girl was already beyond help, when Elaina found her the women had been absorbed by the plant and freeing her would just get her killed, so in that situation Elaina quite literally couldn’t do anything,


that bit was quite obvious to me but the end of the story with bunch of plant zombies taking bouquets to the town didnt quite sit right with me in a "its not her job but she could have done something" kinda way personally i am more ok with how bottled happiness went than the story with the flower field i dont really blame her for being the cause or trigger or anything like that but witnessing imminent annihilation of an entire town and doing nothing about it was kinda shitty but we dont know if she actually did nothing maybe she warned other witches like the association or something i would be totally fine if something like that was shown maybe she didnt see those zombies at all... i see this bit as an oversight maybe anime is at fault and the LN didnt imply an imminent destruction of the town like the anime (if so i would like to know) since i am pretty sure the author doesnt want to paint the mc as someone heartless you can see how it didnt sit well with me looking for excuses
Dec 25, 2023 6:02 AM

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One thing i like about Elaina is the simple fact that she doesnt copy your everyday adventurer protagonist's traits...

& you cant even consider her an evil character either!!!
" Kindness can sometimes lead you to trouble. "

Dec 25, 2023 6:08 AM

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Did everyone forget the time travel episode? The one time she decided to help somebody (although while receiving compensation), it ended up causing more harm than good.

That is one element of it. Such a brief exposure to someone else's circumstances is not enough to know what you need to do to help them. Like giving money to a beggar who then buys fentanyl laced crack and dies of an overdose.

Then there's her capabilities. "If you can't see it to the end, then do nothing" (name that line). Imagine she remembers the happiness in a bottle story and warns the chief's son about it. Then what? That doesn't change the underlying issue, the boy's ignorance and the maid's fate as a slave, and involves her in a complex conflict she couldn't really resolve.

Finally, the limits of empathy. Why would she help somebody over someone else? Does she have to help everybody she comes across? Nobody? Only some of them? There'd be no end to it, so the best and most fair alternative is helping those she knows for sure she can help, and who can compensate her.

Not helping those in need out of a sense of self preservation and knowing your own limits does not mean you're bad or lack empathy.
Dec 25, 2023 6:20 AM
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Would be kinda boring if everyone was focused on helping people and doing good deeds IMO. Kinda makes it a bit more human and realistic in a way
Dec 25, 2023 7:34 AM
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I remember where this issue blow up during quarantine in 2020. good ol' day
Dec 25, 2023 8:37 AM
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I liked it overall and how it broke away from the mold. Really the only part that kind of annoyed me was the zombie flower thing. Not knowing what your actions will bring is one thing, but that whole segment seemed like pretty clear condemnation lol
Dec 25, 2023 9:29 AM
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She's a normal person. Nobody would help everyone, because it's literally impossible. There might be certain cases that would be easier to help, but she's just traveling through, not settling down to insert herself into every life she encounters. If you traveled around the world, would you honestly stop everything you're doing to dedicate your life to help every single person you met? especially in places where everyone is worse off than you? It's not practical. it's totally impossible. if you cared that much, you could spend the rest of your life helping people and never even leave your own town. Idealism is great when we're thinking about what we might be able to do in the world, but we have to temper it with reality and make choices. I liked that this show doesn't have a superpowered MC who just happens to clear up every major problem she sees in one episode.
Dec 25, 2023 10:32 AM
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Actually, it explains it in the first or second episode. Her mom said basically to run away when it gets too dangerous. Anytime something goes wrong, she just leaves. That was what she promised to her mom for her to be able to go on her journey. It’s really hard to miss that, don’t know why people don’t understand that.
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Dec 25, 2023 12:03 PM
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i dont know how you came up with this but at no point of the anime does Elaina give an impression of being scared of being in danger sure she did avoid some situations out of caution like the princess godzilla fight but even then she was ready to jump in then there is the time travel thing, fighting to destroy the truth sword, jumping into the wishing well dreamland... etc she was definitely more than happy to put herself in danger so i really dont understand where you pulled that avoiding danger bs
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Dec 25, 2023 1:12 PM
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asalkur said:
i dont know how you came up with this but at no point of the anime does Elaina give an impression of being scared of being in danger sure she did avoid some situations out of caution like the princess godzilla fight but even then she was ready to jump in then there is the time travel thing, fighting to destroy the truth sword, jumping into the wishing well dreamland... etc she was definitely more than happy to put herself in danger so i really dont understand where you pulled that avoiding danger bs

No, it wasn’t that she was scared. The promise is that she can’t get in too deep and to leave when it’s too much. Which is why she leaves the crazy lady in the Godzilla fight. It mentions it and she always abides by it.
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Dec 25, 2023 1:21 PM
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i dont know how you came up with this but at no point of the anime does Elaina give an impression of being scared of being in danger sure she did avoid some situations out of caution like the princess godzilla fight but even then she was ready to jump in then there is the time travel thing, fighting to destroy the truth sword, jumping into the wishing well dreamland... etc she was definitely more than happy to put herself in danger so i really dont understand where you pulled that avoiding danger bs

No, it wasn’t that she was scared. The promise is that she can’t get in too deep and to leave when it’s too much. Which is why she leaves the crazy lady in the Godzilla fight. It mentions it and she always abides by it.
@official_brown again what are you talking about? she says she wouldnt join the godzilla fight but she does at least she would have if the crazy princess couldnt handle it, she jumps into time travel without knowing anything like you know how she would return to present, she destroys the truth sword which is very precious to a fucking king she isnt concerned about the consequences and others she has never once been concerned about her safety in the entire anime if you look at it in an actions speak louder way but anyway whatever floats your boat i guess
Dec 25, 2023 2:36 PM
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I actually like that trait of hers a lot. Elaina is not a superhero. she's just a witch spending her days. why should she help people all day long? not many in our world do. it makes her much more realistic and down to earth character imo.
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Dec 25, 2023 2:42 PM
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I think the simplest answer is there's always consequences when it comes to helping people you don't know.
I feel like she kinda learned her lesson there after the first couple of episodes. She became hesitant, yet furthermore, she kept reliving traumatizing experiences whenever she did help someone (like the time-traveling episode).

But when there's a huge take in the end, she kinda regretted it because of how mentally messed up it was with no happy ending.
Dec 25, 2023 7:01 PM

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She doesn’t have any obligation to, she isn’t from the towns she visits and doesn’t have any connection, I actually like how its more realistic like this
Dec 25, 2023 7:40 PM
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She is a wandering witch and it’s not her job to intervene, she would probably make things worse since she is an outsider
Dec 26, 2023 10:41 AM
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eh. I know *I* wouldn't get involved in everyone's problems if I was taking in a new country. Kind of like Kino's Journey, Elaina is just travelling through and observing, but not meddling.
Dec 26, 2023 1:18 PM

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Its normal/realistic behavior. But lets be real here, just cus its normal/realistic doesnt mean it isnt unlikable.

Theres a big contrast with her attitude and the situations she runs into. Like theres no affect on her psyche. It makes her feel detached from reality, and sure she's a witch, but we gotta find something interesting/likeable about her as a protagonist other than "uwu cute anime girl." She just kinda sucks.
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Dec 27, 2023 7:19 AM
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she is realistic character and she's not superhero so in my pov she did right
Dec 27, 2023 3:16 PM
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It can be argued that it’s normal or realistic behavior and that’s perfectly valid. Like who of us here would do anything more than that? The problem I have is I just don’t find that very interesting. Like yeah I definitely wouldn’t want to help every single stranger coming to me with their problems but if I’m watching a story then I want a reason to root for the protagonist in whatever they’re doing and I’m sorry but Elaina just isn’t that for me. There were multiple episodes times where it felt like she could’ve been written out of the story and nothing would’ve changed, and when that’s the PROTAGONIST then I’m gonna have some issues. I’m sure there are people that disagree with me, and that’s great, different opinions are rad as hell, but for me while I don’t hate Elaina I really just can’t find myself rooting for her for the most part.
Dec 27, 2023 5:03 PM
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It can be argued that it’s normal or realistic behavior and that’s perfectly valid. Like who of us here would do anything more than that? The problem I have is I just don’t find that very interesting. Like yeah I definitely wouldn’t want to help every single stranger coming to me with their problems but if I’m watching a story then I want a reason to root for the protagonist in whatever they’re doing and I’m sorry but Elaina just isn’t that for me. There were multiple episodes times where it felt like she could’ve been written out of the story and nothing would’ve changed, and when that’s the PROTAGONIST then I’m gonna have some issues. I’m sure there are people that disagree with me, and that’s great, different opinions are rad as hell, but for me while I don’t hate Elaina I really just can’t find myself rooting for her for the most part.
@OneEyedMart wow you are absolutely right so i am going to make a list about where i think Elaina can be removed from the story

first two episodes she is vital

she can be removed from the 3rd episode as all she did was walk and talk removing her might even be and improvement

removing her from 4th episode would require very minor adjustments like the princess could dig the hole one day and go back to fight godzilla the next day so Elaina was definitely not needed

i dont remember much of the 5th episode but i dont think she can be removed

she can be removed from the 6th episode as only significant thing she did was telling saya and the other witch how to lie without lying although meeting saya again could be significant enough to keep her

7th episode didnt even have Elaina in the first place

for the 8th episode i think she needs to be present as it plays a role later on but it would be easy to remove her with only minor changes to the story

yep no need for Elaina in the 9th episode other witch going back in time on her own would have been just as good of a story

10th episode again Elaina isnt present

while Elaina wasnt vital in the 11th episode she still played a big role so she stays

And the last episode Elaina is the only characters so yeah

Overall she can be removed from 5.5 episodes(counting episode 6 as half) pretty amazing tbh thats like going to work and playing with your phone all day but somehow your work gets done without you lifting a finger
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well cause she is not some kind of omnipotent character who goes helping everyone, she is just a travelling witch..
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I'd say Elaina is neither a good nor a bad person. She's a neutral person.

She mainly serves her own self interest, but she doesn't do it in ways that harm others, at least not on purpose.

She doesn't go out of her way to help others, but she doesn't like people she's become acquainted to getting hurt.

She is realistic, although maybe slightly less willing to help than a normal person in real life. Although her vanity is off the charts compared to a normal person.
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I'm so extremely confused by saying how she's realistic and normal. It's so baffling. Like yeah, I get that you might not help each and every person you stumble upon. That is definitely realistic and normal. But what is NOT normal is showing a complete and utter lack of care, remorse or regret for not helping someone. Elaina is a psychopath and a narcissist, which is not normal.
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eh. I know *I* wouldn't get involved in everyone's problems if I was taking in a new country. Kind of like Kino's Journey, Elaina is just travelling through and observing, but not meddling.
@MyLittlePonfarr yeah, neither would I.
Nov 16, 2024 6:48 AM

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"you can't predict the outcome of your action" then better do nothing XD

I accept that Elaine is not a hero and doesn't do good things at.

But on the other hand it's not interesting to follow a self centered girl, that only follows her traveling map, she gives nothing and gains nothing.
This is not how such stories are being told, it's the appeal point to see deeper character interactions.
A story about a self centered girl who doesn't go out her way is boring, she is a highly regarded witch in the world but makes nothing out of it.
What's the point for her traveling when she gives a shit about people and their whereabouts.
Why go to other places when you are ignorant to everything that is happening around you.

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Following her mother's orders:
1. Run when in danger
2. Don't think of yourself as special

There are actually three commandments, but I think those are the two conditions that play a role and are the reason why Elaina doesn't help people.

1. Run when in danger
Elaina anticipated the danger that would occur. Remember the episode where Elaina was asked to deliver a bouquet of flowers but it turned out the flowers were poisonous. If Elaina hadn't been told that the flowers were poisonous, it's possible that Elaina could have driven the entire village/town crazy because of the poisonous flowers she was carrying. That's why, Elaina prefers not to help people so that she doesn't fall into danger that could arise at any time.

2. Don't think of yourself as special
Elaina doesn't consider herself special, so Elaina thinks again that if she helps people, will she be able to help them to the end? Not considering herself special here means that Elaina doesn't think she can help everyone.

Well, in my opinion, I reiterate, "in my opinion" is the reason behind Elaina not helping people.
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"you can't predict the outcome of your action" then better do nothing XD

I accept that Elaine is not a hero and doesn't do good things at.

But on the other hand it's not interesting to follow a self centered girl, that only follows her traveling map, she gives nothing and gains nothing.
This is not how such stories are being told, it's the appeal point to see deeper character interactions.
A story about a self centered girl who doesn't go out her way is boring, she is a highly regarded witch in the world but makes nothing out of it.
What's the point for her traveling when she gives a shit about people and their whereabouts.
Why go to other places when you are ignorant to everything that is happening around you.

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She likes to see new places, meet new people and gain experience from seeing the world around her. I don't understand why she would need to go around helping people to make her journey worth it. Have you ever traveled? For certain there were people in need if you pay attetion to your sorroundings. It doesn't mean you go around helping some random people. Everyone has their own problems, including yourself.

Sure, if an old woman would ask me to help with something, very fast, I would have no issue. I think the amount of effort someone is willing to put into that varies from culture to culture, and individual to individual. I don't go around helping people, but I do learn a lot from my travels.

As for the feeling as a spectator watching the anime, I can understand the frustration for her being too passive sometimes. An active character shapes the story, creates emotional situations and improve or worsens the world around them. The writer could choose more arcs in which she actually cares about what's going on, and gets involved. I, however, particularly like this kind of story in which the protagonist is an observer. The moral of the stories still exists and is told by watching the other chartacters, though it's true there could be a lot more character development.
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She likes to see new places, meet new people and gain experience from seeing the world around her. I don't understand why she would need to go around helping people to make her journey worth it. Have you ever traveled? For certain there were people in need if you pay attetion to your sorroundings. It doesn't mean you go around helping some random people. Everyone has their own problems, including yourself.

Sure, if an old woman would ask me to help with something, very fast, I would have no issue. I think the amount of effort someone is willing to put into that varies from culture to culture, and individual to individual. I don't go around helping people, but I do learn a lot from my travels.

As for the feeling as a spectator watching the anime, I can understand the frustration for her being too passive sometimes. An active character shapes the story, creates emotional situations and improve or worsens the world around them. The writer could choose more arcs in which she actually cares about what's going on, and gets involved. I, however, particularly like this kind of story in which the protagonist is an observer. The moral of the stories still exists and is told by watching the other chartacters, though it's true there could be a lot more character development.
@Phanyx7 It's difficult with this anime, the lighthearted episodes are so damn hilarious.
But when it touches topics like slavery or the episode with the killer loli it becomes so bad.
Elaine is a funny girl and not completely mean, but when she is being put into such situations she appears very unlikable.
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@asalkur You don't have the ability to help everyone you see. Even if you could in a way your not helping them. If they think you'll be around when anything goes wrong they expect you to be there.
100% agree. She's not as black and white or as calculated as people assume - she's just drifting from place to place doing the best she can, while keeping in mind that meddling, even with the best of intentions, can end up causing unforeseen harm.

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