The Mist Hashira Should Have Been the OLDER Brother Instead:

Wtf. Nobody would think the way you just described. People would have still found a reason to complain about it so it doesn't really matter who lives or dies. The end result is that Muichiro is alive and is the mist hashira who plays an important role as a demon slayer.
Also, let's ignore the original part because by that logic, almost every new shonen will be a copy of an older shonen the same way people call Jjk a copy of Bleach and so many other anime.

About the spoiler part, you don't know how wrong you are by saying the stakes would be higher if the hashiras had lost this season. The rest of the 3 Upper ranks and Muzan are more than enough for the Hashiras as they are right now. Upper 4 and 5 were definitely a let down as compared to how Gyutaro was shown but its better if we get rid of them early so they don't waste our time in the real showdown and we get straight to business with the rest of Upper ranks.

I don’t understand what you mean? You saying it’s boring because it’s a generic shounen. Or you being sarcastic that people don’t understand shounen ?
This show is a generic shounen no doubt. There is no greyness, no deep plot nothing. Good guys, bad guys, fight, good guys win, personal trauma for mc. Tried and tested formula. Successful. And this show optimised the formula well and animation hard carry.

Shounens like AOT, Naruto, MHA are more enjoyable as they have an excellent plot, make commentaries on many deep topics and grey morality. Character driven stories but awesome plots.

This is not to say Kimetsu no Naiba is bad. Fight shows like these have a charm of their own. Excellent starter anime.

But S3 was really boring. S2 and the movie were peak. 🙌

It's just like your opinion, I guess. To each their own. This arc is overall considered as the weakest of the series, with Muichiro being the most boring Hashira, despite being one of the most powerful. It doesn't really matter.

And I don't even know why the main criticism of Demon Slayer is that it's "generic", ESPECIALLY if we compare it to any other shounen presence or past.

Hey, at least Tanjiro doesn't have any demon/evil spirit sealed inside of him and his dream is not to become the best in his field. You should give it some slack just because of that.

You are making very wrong assumption, that being generic is a very bad thing by default, because sometimes you need to rely on overused tropes to convey your point across. It's all about execution.
Remember how Shokomori romcom tried to be original by completely omitting a fundamental aspect of every romance and it backfired spectacularly? Yeah, exactly.
On the other hand both JJK and Black Clover have Demon Sealed Inside MC, rely on Power Of Friendship, etc, yet are immensely successful and nobody hates it because of that.

And as I said, Muichiro was always underwhelming, so your idea might have worked. But I guess author wanted to base his personality on his Mist Breathing, which is why he is do lethargic.

There are some shows that follow a generic formula, and others that try to to break from the mold. Demon Slayer is one of the generic shows, and it’s made to be that way because the formula works, and isn’t broken, there’s also a lot of people that like the show because of its formula. If Demon Slayer were to try something different, it wouldn’t feel the same way. There’s another point to be made, in case you’ve forgotten, Demon Slayer is based off a manga, and if they were to change up the story, they would receive backlash from fans of the manga. Instead of hating on the generic parts of the anime that are only generic because it was told that way in the manga, how about think about what the anime is able to do to set it apart from the manga. You partially brought it up yourself, the breathing styles, the anime is able to bring the breathing styles to life with beautiful animation. Say whatever you like about the story when talking about the manga, but when talking about the anime, especially with a show as formulaic as demon slayer, all you can actually talk about is the animation.
At the end of me saying all of this, this feels like such a waste of time. I couldn’t help but rant about how dumb it is to complain about an anime being formulaic. Just appreciate the fact that it’s being animated in the first place, and if you don’t like it, save yourself some time, and stop watching it.

@Piromysl

But he is a nice kid who always does the right thing, and has always manages to be the extra element needed to give the stronger characters a victory.

That is just as, If not even more so common.

And honestly, my main problem is that I find this type of generic character way more boring than other tropes.


You mentioned the demon/evil spirit thing, which while true, does leave a lot of room for variety on it's own.

Mob's inner demon is a part of himself that he has locked up

Sakuna is one of the strongest characters in the show that is actively againts itadori, and him coming out is purely a "problem"

Naruto's is a contract kind of deal, where he takes benefits from the fox thingy but can't always use it (I haven't seen naruto, but I'm pretty sure that's about it)


Like, despite all being a "demon/spirit/evil inside thing" they all interact differently.

on the other hand the whole "being nice thing" which is also extremely common among heroes like tanjiro not just in anime but in media as a whole.... it's just what it is.

The only difference tanjiro has, is that it doesn't hold him back from killing the demons when necessary past the training part.... which I think just takes away his only character flaw and makes him more boring.

Like, it's not that tanjiro has something isntead of a evil spirit, he has nothing.


also... you still haven't commented on the actual topic yet >:(

Wait I thought I misread your idea, but that is what you were proposing? That twist accomplishes nothing and would feel like a complete ass pull.

Your list of things it accomplishes is just

1. Is different

2. Is a twist

3. Character would have changed more from backstory

Are any of these functionally better? Who cares how much a character develops from their backstory? Character development is satisfying in the present, offscreen development from a flashback to present day just has the effect of “wow they were different back then huh”.

It being a twist doesn’t make it better on its own, nor does it being different. This would be fine I guess, but it’s a weird thing to bring up in a MAL thread.

The entire backstory is framed around the meaning of the “mu” in “muichiro”. It’s kind of corny, but it’s thematically resonant and not something worth leaving on the table in the name of accomplishing this twist.

Again, this would be fine, but the arc is good as is and I’m not convinced your idea is better.

I'm not saying there would be no room for complaints, I'm saying it was a huge missed opportunity to make it way better.

It would only add to it, and take away nothing from his arc in exchange.



I meant "original" by demon slayer standards. It would make it stand out more compared to other backstories in the show itself. since a lot of them are extremely same-y.



If the only issue with my suggestion is that you think these 2 demons were better to get rid of early...


well they could have been defeated AFTER destroying the village. It would make them seem a lot stronger too.

@APolygons2 Maybe that's how you think but I don't think many people would be bothered by it at all.

Oh according to Kny standards. A lot of the backstories do feel same but I accept it because that's the most suitable reason to become a demon slayer. One of their family member or their entire family died at the hands of demons that's why the hate made them demon slayers. Also, so many people have different backstory and different reasons to become a demon slayer so it's not exactly the same for a lot of them.

Yeah this arc is generally considered as a weak arc so your point about the demons not being able to do much is valid. They were a disappointment in some regards. Only a few swordsmith died and only the village's location was obtained. Its only later on in the infinity castle arc that I realised how unimportant and forgettable those two upper ranks were. They did try though. Especially gyokko with those ugly looking fish which almost killed the chief but it was more of a happy ending with not much lost for the demon slayers.

I wasn't "bothered" either. It's just an idea that I think would make it better.



sure, but that doesn't mean it being different wouldn't be a positive change. It's not like I'm saying "it doesn't make sense".

@APolygons2 Btw I realised you wrote that the younger one died and older one rose up. I thought Muichiro was the younger one.
Anyways, I don't see it being better by it. Who knows, it might have actually been better but I like the Muichiro we have right now. His personality changed with the anger he stored within him plus the final words of his dying brother were more impactful and emotional.

That's exactly what I said, plenty of people have completely different reasons to be a demon slayer and it makes them interesting.

I'm not sure where, but I either said it wrong, or I was talking about the change I was suggesting.

God this is the most pretentious thread I’ve ever seen

ktg casually derails yet another thread. 🤣

avg mid slayer fan

I really didn’t expect such a kiddish and uneducated take on Attack on Titan. You actually saw it from the 13 year old shounen fanboy lens and missed everything about the show.
I’m just hoping it’s a troll comment seeing you have over 200 days watch time.

SnK a generic shounen? Since when dude?
I don’t think shounens are meant to have commentaries and explore implications of war, social structures, racism, weapons, history, weapons of mass destruction etc.
I am sure that’s gor mature Seinen content.

When were the titans the bad guy?
Was there any actual bad guy in the whole act?
If you say titans are the antagonists that means what marleians do its neighbours and paradis is justified? If they are the good guys then Eren is correct? There is actually no good or bad in the show come on. It’s this greyness that war embodies which has been greatly captured and shown in the show. You actually question every decision and action taken by all. No one is correct.

You are correct in stating Goku is the most generic shounen protagonist. Of course he is. DBZ is the precursor to all modern shounen.

Naruto is a shounen too no doubt. But it has elements that stand out and are way mature and deep for normal kids. The whole Pain arc is a fine example.

Tanjiro on the other hand is a normal protagonist. He has no dilemmas pr faces any grey morality decisions. It’s all simple. Bad demon kills people. Need to stop. It never explores the psyche of the other side and it never will. Tanjiro doesn’t think.
That would make the show too philosophical and too hard for kids like you.

No offence but your take on SnK is too bad omg. I can talk about SnK for hours but I really need an equally good mind on the other side that understand writing, reads between the lines, understand plot driven shows etc etc.

Hope you grow up and actually pay attention to how literature works
L.

@Piromysl He attacked the base so hard, I deleted all my comments relating to demon slayer being mid specifically to avoid another tactical nuke lol

@APolygons2 It was such a childish decision, you couldn't even protect your own take.

I still reply to some things, because it was so hilarious that I still remember them:

I can make a more detailed template about FMAB. Again, I used that one sentence as an example.
So here's a more detailed one:
- Al and Ed go to a new place where something going on. Every time you can not find a single city where you can relax.
- Al and/or Ed got personally involved. They are state employed people and cannot as an objective side like irl policeman. They got beaten up, pickpocketed, befriend the weaker side etc. It always becomes personal.
- They start to investigate and there are always some deeper things behind. Even if the sun shines, it must have because some payed for it.
- And obviously they magically solve the case.
There's also a cyclical reappearance with the government or military and this usually happens between the arcs where we always got some more information.

Your example with Superman was pretty hilarious, because it means you don't even know Superman. :DDDDD
Superman originally was perfectly fine killing 10k innocent people in process of beating up one bad guy. You can also see this in movies, because the whole Batman vs Superman is about this. And that's not Tanjiro's personality. Tanjiro prioritizes innocent people's lives.
Btw, I said MCU and you even failed to stay in the same universe that I mentioned. Which also proves how rarely used character type this is, you could even name one from the MCU. :)

Nezuko dying would end the story here and there, because Tanjiro's entire goal is to save his sister, NOT avenging his family by killing Muzan. Nezuko surviving actually makes a lot of sense, since her sacrificing herself to save other humans made sun remembrance her.
Which is the reason why Muzan's backstory was revealed at the same time. It mirrored Nezuko becoming immune to sunlight by him murdering someone who tried to help him and sun scorning him. It's symbolic.

@APolygons2 what the hell happened to this thread💀

Well leave it to garbage slayer to miss an opportunity for a compelling arc.

@APolygons2 I'm not a hater I'm a radical anti-fan get it right 😡😡

@AwokenStroken

WHY ARE THE ONLY TWO TYPES OF COMMENTS HERE EITHER FROM HARDCORE FANS OR HARDCORE HATERS,


seriously guys, this show is like the most "good" but not "amazing" thing I have seen. how is everyone so 0 or 100 on it?


and barely anyone has even commented on the actual idea!!!!