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Oct 17, 2023 7:09 AM
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This series feels nice since the author is trying to create a vibe like Re:Zero and Steins:Gate but we all know especially those who had already watched Steins;Gate which one is the GOAT. In terms of MC, I can definitely agree that this guy in the series is better than Subaru but if we want to compare Shinpei with Hououin Kyouma, mannn Houioun Kyouma is the one and only MC especially time-travel series that topped both.

And when this shows started to feel illogical a bit, I can’t really say that this series can compete with Re:Zero or Steins;Gate even a little bit since it feels like survival game already Hahaha. But still, gonna watch since no more anime like Steins;Gate or Re:zero exists in nowadays era.

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Oct 17, 2023 7:22 AM
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My thoughts are steins gate didn’t do it as great as everyone says I prefer rezero and str
Oct 17, 2023 7:36 AM
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I agree with most of what you said (I speak from experience since I watched both works).
I just think it makes no sense to compare the works because they both have different proposals, just the fact of having "time travel" present in both works is what makes them similar.
But Summertime is really much inferior to the works mentioned, full of conveniences, etc. After watching, comment here so I know what you thought.
Oct 17, 2023 7:53 AM
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the MC is definitely not better than Subaru
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Summertime rendering nowhere near to Steins gate and re zero and except time loop they have hardly any similarity.

it is more similar to Higurashi:
Protagonist comes to the country side village.
time loop power has the limit
the main event is centred around the summer festival.
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My thoughts:

Steins;Gate >>> Summertime Rendering > Re:Zero
Okabe Rintaro > Ajiro Shinpei >>> Natsuki Subaru
Oct 17, 2023 7:57 AM
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Badonkers said:
My thoughts:

Steins;Gate >>> Summertime Rendering > Re:Zero
Okabe Rintaro > Ajiro Shinpei >>> Natsuki Subaru

Totally agree! Okabe aka Hououin Kyouma plays with the world line and future while the other two had smaller task
Oct 17, 2023 7:58 AM
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Subaru is a way way better than that boring Shinpei. Wtf are you on?! A Character with development, unmeasurable struggles, realism and so on and so furth is inferior to a fckg boring ass Character who does not change in the slightest from episode 1-25 in your point of view?! Wow🤦🏻‍♂️
Oct 17, 2023 8:01 AM
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Dyonata said:
I agree with most of what you said (I speak from experience since I watched both works).
I just think it makes no sense to compare the works because they both have different proposals, just the fact of having "time travel" present in both works is what makes them similar.
But Summertime is really much inferior to the works mentioned, full of conveniences, etc. After watching, comment here so I know what you thought.

I already watched bro. Until now after I watched Re:zero & STR, I still feel the deepest pain & suspense watching Steins;Gate. The chill is totally different than those two. Steins;gate is where you play with reality and physics which is most of the people are trying to do until now but in Steins;Gate, Okabe the only one managed to do it alone. And yeah, he has to keep on suffering and travelling just to get to the world line where both girls alive. And that’s why, Steins;Gate by far the best of all time time-travel series
Oct 17, 2023 8:03 AM
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AshTheChamp said:
Subaru is a way way better than that boring Shinpei. Wtf are you on?! A Character with development, unmeasurable struggles, realism and so on and so furth is inferior to a fckg boring ass Character who does not change in the slightest from episode 1-25 in your point of view?! Wow🤦🏻‍♂️

Subaru better? U must have problem here bro. Many people out there know how useless & dumb Subaru is. Aside that, helpless
Oct 17, 2023 8:08 AM
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AshTheChamp said:
Subaru is a way way better than that boring Shinpei. Wtf are you on?! A Character with development, unmeasurable struggles, realism and so on and so furth is inferior to a fckg boring ass Character who does not change in the slightest from episode 1-25 in your point of view?! Wow🤦🏻‍♂️

I see what you are saying, but anime Subaru is still below shinpei to me.
I don't know wat changes u expect from shipped but ....
first..rezero centers its plot around Subarus growth
STR doesn't...rather focuses on yhe war between the shadows nd humans with shinpei as the smart mc...
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Sledgehammer Waifu best girl of 2020.

Oct 17, 2023 8:13 AM
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Peenutz said:
My thoughts are steins gate didn’t do it as great as everyone says I prefer rezero and str

Maybe u just don’t prefer old anime. Thats all
Oct 17, 2023 8:14 AM
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Piromysl said:
Sledgehammer Waifu best girl of 2020.

Indeed. We all know where are we aiming sksk
Oct 17, 2023 8:16 AM
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Badonkers said:
My thoughts:

Steins;Gate >>> Summertime Rendering > Re:Zero
Okabe Rintaro > Ajiro Shinpei >>> Natsuki Subaru

I love Re:zero but still Subaru ruined the show 🥹
Oct 17, 2023 8:25 AM
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All they have in common is time leap. They all follow very different paths and very different plots, they’re all different.
Oct 17, 2023 8:29 AM
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Didnt copy anything, just similar the time travel. There are so many MA have time travel theme and you said them all copy?
Oct 17, 2023 8:30 AM
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Dyonata said:
I agree with most of what you said (I speak from experience since I watched both works).
I just think it makes no sense to compare the works because they both have different proposals, just the fact of having "time travel" present in both works is what makes them similar.
But Summertime is really much inferior to the works mentioned, full of conveniences, etc. After watching, comment here so I know what you thought.

I already watched bro. Until now after I watched Re:zero & STR, I still feel the deepest pain & suspense watching Steins;Gate. The chill is totally different than those two. Steins;gate is where you play with reality and physics which is most of the people are trying to do until now but in Steins;Gate, Okabe the only one managed to do it alone. And yeah, he has to keep on suffering and travelling just to get to the world line where both girls alive. And that’s why, Steins;Gate by far the best of all time time-travel series
@Ameenzaruba10 About it being the "best travel work" of all time, I agree if it's within the world of anime, now if it's outside that I believe there are films and series that portray this theme very well. Anyway, what do you think and I respect that.
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Summertime rendering nowhere near to Steins gate and re zero and except time loop they have hardly any similarity.

it is more similar to Higurashi:
Protagonist comes to the country side village.
time loop power has the limit
the main event is centred around the summer festival.
@SubArU_JeAgEr I agree it did remind me Higurashi and not Steins Gate or Re zero.
Oct 17, 2023 8:51 AM
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Ameenzaruba10 said:
AshTheChamp said:
Subaru is a way way better than that boring Shinpei. Wtf are you on?! A Character with development, unmeasurable struggles, realism and so on and so furth is inferior to a fckg boring ass Character who does not change in the slightest from episode 1-25 in your point of view?! Wow🤦🏻‍♂️

Subaru better? U must have problem here bro. Many people out there know how useless & dumb Subaru is. Aside that, helpless

it's not like Subaru is THAT dumb, but at least shinpei has a brain, and imo, shinpei even suffered more than Subaru. Subaru saw people he's only known for like months die over and over again, shinpei saw his literal family, sisters, friends (so people he's known for his entire life) die. Agreed that their power is pretty much the same, but Shinpei's has a limited usage. while Subaru can die over and over and try everything again, shinpei had to calculate everything, every moment, just so he could save everyone and not make the same mistakes again, also because he can't die as mamy times as Subaru.
That's just my opinion, I love both shows. But I definitely prefer summer time rendering
Oct 17, 2023 8:52 AM
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PyGno_ said:
the MC is definitely not better than Subaru

Fr, 100% agree. Shinpei is a more satisfying character to watch because he always takes a logical approach that we wish more people would take in horror stories, but generally Subaru’s just a more well-rounded character who makes a lot more sense as a human.
Oct 17, 2023 9:09 AM
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jennythanh said:
Didnt copy anything, just similar the time travel. There are so many MA have time travel theme and you said them all copy?

I only relate those 3 bro
Oct 17, 2023 9:11 AM
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Kawaii_swan said:
All they have in common is time leap. They all follow very different paths and very different plots, they’re all different.

Ya i know the plot is different, but still, all of them keep restarting but for story progressing, Steins;Gate is the best. At first you feel happy and it’s like watching crazy scientist, but at the end, you miss his old personality and started to wanting his old self back
Oct 17, 2023 9:39 AM
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Ameenzaruba10 said:
Kawaii_swan said:
All they have in common is time leap. They all follow very different paths and very different plots, they’re all different.

Ya i know the plot is different, but still, all of them keep restarting but for story progressing, Steins;Gate is the best. At first you feel happy and it’s like watching crazy scientist, but at the end, you miss his old personality and started to wanting his old self back

I thought the first 8 episodes or so was really cringe but the second half of the anime is soo good thats why i gave it a 9/10 for Steins gate
Oct 17, 2023 9:53 AM
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in my opinion

re zero> summertime render> stiens gate
Oct 17, 2023 10:10 AM
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Khushal_v said:
in my opinion

re zero> summertime render> stiens gate

Lol it shud be valid in reverse 👍🏻
Oct 17, 2023 10:13 AM
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lol all 3 of these are on my favorites. Ill say I think Steins;gate is the best of the 3, then re:zero and then summertime render. I think shinpei is the weakest protagonist, but thats not to say he's bad, he just gets outshines when you put him next to subaru and okabe
Oct 17, 2023 10:31 AM

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No doubt about it, this show rides on the coattails of Re:Zero and Steins Gate. But Summertime Render is also very battle shounen-y too: deaths don't matter and nothing is left to the imagination; everything is explained verbally ad nauseam. This aspect of the show seriously hampered my enjoyment and is why I gave it a 6/10
Oct 17, 2023 10:52 AM
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I prefer enjoying an anime for what it is than comparing it to who did it first. That’s irrelevant to my enjoyment.

If after finishing an anime what you care about is how it copies another one then you don’t enjoy anime no more. I’d suggest take a step back, find something you enjoy and maybe come back to watch anime like the first time you did years ago. It will do wonders for you, I bet.
Oct 17, 2023 11:00 AM
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Johnny00 said:
I prefer enjoying an anime for what it is than comparing it to who did it first. That’s irrelevant to my enjoyment.

If after finishing an anime what you care about is how it copies another one then you don’t enjoy anime no more. I’d suggest take a step back, find something you enjoy and maybe come back to watch anime like the first time you did years ago. It will do wonders for you, I bet.

give this man an Oscar.
Oct 17, 2023 11:22 AM
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Some people just want to watch the world burn.
Oct 17, 2023 11:39 AM
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Was there any need to compare Summertime Rendering with the other two? 🙂. All 3 are great in their own right. Personally for me summertime rendering was a an extremely refreshing and captivating series, since we seldom come across animes centred around plots like these nowadays (plus the fact that I don't get much time to watch anime nowadays - but that's a personal problem 🥲). The animation, the voice acting (the island's local dialect 🤌🏻), the setting, the vibes, the overall choreography, was just top notch for me. And the icing on the cake - the brilliant conclusion 🫡. Idk maybe some people couldn't enjoy this show as much if they started to compare it with others or began nitpicking, but for me Summertime Rendering was worth every penny down to the last scene.
Oct 17, 2023 11:41 AM
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Johnny00 said:
I prefer enjoying an anime for what it is than comparing it to who did it first. That’s irrelevant to my enjoyment.

If after finishing an anime what you care about is how it copies another one then you don’t enjoy anime no more. I’d suggest take a step back, find something you enjoy and maybe come back to watch anime like the first time you did years ago. It will do wonders for you, I bet.

I agree 💯. Feel like many people become more pressed on comparing a series with any other series they might've watched in the past, to which it bears some similarity or resemblance, rather than enjoying the current story for what it is.
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It becomes a huge mess the further it gets towards the end. I can't even say it was fun now, it was too confusing. They needed six more episodes to really flesh things out, I don't think covering this series in only two cours was a smart idea.

SG and RZ both have masterful pacing while Summertime is a rush job. And the ending, uh, wow. All good ideas on paper if they're properly explained though.

Even sakuga moments felt rushed. This series takes a machine gun and punches out logical consistency in the end. Barely anything left but bits and pieces of what it formerly had. I wonder if that was the intent in the manga?
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No doubt about it, this show rides on the coattails of Re:Zero and Steins Gate. But Summertime Render is also very battle shounen-y too: deaths don't matter and nothing is left to the imagination; everything is explained verbally ad nauseam. This aspect of the show seriously hampered my enjoyment and is why I gave it a 6/10

because STR is a shounen while the other two aren't.

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Oct 17, 2023 12:05 PM

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"Going back and forth in time to save the MC's friend" is the most common time travel troupe in any media. On this basis every time travel will seem like a copy of something, even though their story and theme has hardly any similarities.

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Oct 17, 2023 12:20 PM
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Steins Gate and Summertime Render are my favs Anime. Re Zero was also good but Summertime Render and Steins Gate is main for me.
Oct 17, 2023 12:34 PM

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X and Y anime share a similar theme.
The average troll: X ANIME IS A COPY OF Y ANIME!!1!!11

Every time. Every fricking time. ----

For crying out loud having a few similar themes does NOT make one anime a "copy" of the other.




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summertime render is nowhere even close to Re:Zero
it felt more like a cheap copy than anything. Re:Zero has one of the best MCs in anime, ever. Putting Shinpei above him should be a crime.
Steins Gate is just incredibly well written, probably one of the only anime out there with no plot holes to date.
The recency bias goes hard on this one.
Oct 17, 2023 1:27 PM

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Ameenzaruba10 said:
Dyonata said:
I agree with most of what you said (I speak from experience since I watched both works).
I just think it makes no sense to compare the works because they both have different proposals, just the fact of having "time travel" present in both works is what makes them similar.
But Summertime is really much inferior to the works mentioned, full of conveniences, etc. After watching, comment here so I know what you thought.

I already watched bro. Until now after I watched Re:zero & STR, I still feel the deepest pain & suspense watching Steins;Gate. The chill is totally different than those two. Steins;gate is where you play with reality and physics which is most of the people are trying to do until now but in Steins;Gate, Okabe the only one managed to do it alone. And yeah, he has to keep on suffering and travelling just to get to the world line where both girls alive. And that’s why, Steins;Gate by far the best of all time time-travel series

Literally lists the exact same things that happens in Re:Zero, except nobody can help Subaru even if they wanted to
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Badonkers said:
My thoughts:

Steins;Gate >>> Summertime Rendering > Re:Zero
Okabe Rintaro > Ajiro Shinpei >>> Natsuki Subaru

I love Re:zero but still Subaru ruined the show 🥹

Mf doesn't know what character development is
compare Subaru at the midpoint of S1 with him at the end of S2. I think you'll be surprised
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Subaru better? U must have problem here bro. Many people out there know how useless & dumb Subaru is. Aside that, helpless

it's not like Subaru is THAT dumb, but at least shinpei has a brain, and imo, shinpei even suffered more than Subaru. Subaru saw people he's only known for like months die over and over again, shinpei saw his literal family, sisters, friends (so people he's known for his entire life) die. Agreed that their power is pretty much the same, but Shinpei's has a limited usage. while Subaru can die over and over and try everything again, shinpei had to calculate everything, every moment, just so he could save everyone and not make the same mistakes again, also because he can't die as mamy times as Subaru.
That's just my opinion, I love both shows. But I definitely prefer summer time rendering

So dying again and again does nothing to your head? You're supposed to be fine and roll with it? Shinpei was smart yeah, but he had the worst representation of 'what death does to a mf'. Subaru was about as confident until his 7th or 8th death, after which shit started to go down. And are we just gonna ignore the fact that Subaru is in a completely different world with no idea how to get back home, and gets repeatedly killed 5 times the first day, and he can't tell anybody about it? (literally no one except the witches know about his ability)
Subaru undoubtedly underwent more trauma here
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There’s almost no meaningful overlap between these series, the time travel mechanics aren’t even that similar.

If we’re just comparing for fun though, all three protagonists are good, but I’d rank them like this.

Subaru > Okabe > Shinpei

Okabe and Subaru are both perfect MCs.
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If you want to compare summertime render with steins gate and re zero based on the fact that all of them are based on some sort of time travel and call it a copy will not seek justice to the show.. as this genre is not so niche anymore it is well explored.. higurashi also had kind of same plot.. moreover this plot of relieving the past again and again is used in many video games also( (like genshin's subzeruz festival act)
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Surprised how much people are gassing Rezero and Subaru, I found it practically unwatchable from cringe at multiple points despite the good things the anime does. I preferred Summertime Render characters simply because they didn't make me want to turn the anime off
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just started watching it really brings the vibe
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I loved all these shows mentioned. Comparing them is useless cos they all do their own thing differently, and do it well.

Re Zero is a character study and criticism on the otaku mentality and the escapism of the isekai genre. Subaru is a beautifully written character with human flaws and ongoing struggles. Where instead of enabling the same trope of a bland self insert protagonist gaining power and waifu that are supposed to cater to the otaku audience... the world constantly shits on Subaru's half assed attempts to be "the op harem protagonist" forcing him to make genuine attempts to change himself and become an active person in society. The world and narrative doesn't give Subaru or us any false hope either. Just because he pulls his head in and actively tries.. doesn't mean the world is gonna be any kinder. He still fails, but he learns to live with it and stand back up again. He accepts his shortcomings and gathers people to his side. He isn't gonna get any major powerups or become a super powerful person cos thats not what this story is. He's just a regular human from earth in a world of magic, witches, beasts and other creatures. In fact, him being weak makes him even more terrifying and badass. It makes the small successes he does get more satisfying.

Steins Gate is kinda more a love letter FOR the otaku audience. Considering the character tropes and setting of Akihabara, which is legit the central kingdom of otaku. Its also a more personal story about saving your loved ones and overcoming fate itself to do it. The time travel mechanics are also explored deeply in a grounded way. Its still time travel a completely fictional concept.. but the way they go about exploring the psuedo-science of the worldlines and Reading Steiner helps makes it feel more believable.

Summertime Rendering is legit a good time. Thats all. Its well crafted and an entertaining watch. The characters aren't really that complex, but they don't have to be. This is a plot focused narrative. Its a murder mystery and cat and mouse game between and a supernatural entity on this small island.

Shinpei isn't trying to be another Subaru and Okabe. He's his own person. He's more calculating, and remains as calm and rational as a human can. I did like that he gave in to the possibility of it being a time loop quicker than other protagonists. It was a breath of fresh air. His choices were all well thought out and he put up a good fight against the shadows. Both parties adapted which made it a more thrilling ride than most. It isn't gonna go into the past and complex characteristics of Shinpei or the other characters cos thats not what this is. We're only given whats necessary to know for the main plot at hand. Which is the fight against the shadows. That's it.
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I see Summertime Render as it's own thing really. It's not like groundhog day loops are rare in anime. Summertime Render starts off with more Higurashi vibes to me and then develops into an action show. I wouldn't compare it as much to Re:zero and Steins Gate. They feel more otaku orientated.
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Badonkers said:
My thoughts:

Steins;Gate >>> Summertime Rendering > Re:Zero
Okabe Rintaro > Ajiro Shinpei >>> Natsuki Subaru

terrible ranking
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Ameenzaruba10 said:
Badonkers said:
My thoughts:

Steins;Gate >>> Summertime Rendering > Re:Zero
Okabe Rintaro > Ajiro Shinpei >>> Natsuki Subaru

I love Re:zero but still Subaru ruined the show 🥹

you just dont understand the series
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