My Happy Marriage (light novel)
| The end result is still the same, she's an awful person in the the story, whether it's technically her fault or not. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| like mother, like daughter. That entire household is a trash. The Saimori family and the environment around her made her grown up like this. |
何それ？意味分かんない  |
| brainwashed or not cause she had choices. Either she becomes a bully or she doesn't bully her sister at all and let her sister on her own. She is terrible in general |
Icywisy said: Sorry, but that's far too shortsighted of a viewpoint when it comes to an impressionable child being manipulated by evil parents. brainwashed or not cause she had choices. Either she becomes a bully or she doesn't bully her sister at all and let her sister on her own. She is terrible in general |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
LostSpectre said: Icywisy said: Sorry, but that's far too shortsighted of a viewpoint when it comes to an impressionable child being manipulated by evil parents. brainwashed or not cause she had choices. Either she becomes a bully or she doesn't bully her sister at all and let her sister on her own. She is terrible in general meh, I agree she was manipulated for the bullying by her mother but can't agree if she was not manipulated for the bullying, she won't bully her. Cause just how she treats kouji". Kaya and kouji's relation is not like fiance it's more like boss and worker. And she even let kouji go for another man. Ofc her mother didn't teach her that. She did that on her own. that's why I said she was a bad person in general |
| I think u guys are going way too far tbh. I don't think she's being manipulated at all, she's just like her mother and father, that's it, they're both trash and so is she. It was pretty clear from the way she truly believes she's better than Miyo and deserved a better husband. Miyo is different because she didn't grow up with people pampering her and she inherited her kindness from her mother, who was completely different from these two. What I'm trying to say is: Kaya was not brainwashed, it's just her personality. The moment she discovered that she had something her sister didn't, and saw that everyone pampered her for it, she began to feel superior. Just as her mother felt superior to Miyo's mother (because she thought that Miyo's mother failed even to pass on supernatural abilities to her own daughter). |
meghwanAug 14, 2023 9:48 PM
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LostSpectre said: Icywisy said: Sorry, but that's far too shortsighted of a viewpoint when it comes to an impressionable child being manipulated by evil parents. brainwashed or not cause she had choices. Either she becomes a bully or she doesn't bully her sister at all and let her sister on her own. She is terrible in general Not really … I have known household like this, everyone has a choice on how to treat their family |
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.  |
RealNath said: meghwan said: I think u guys are going way too far tbh. I don't think she's being manipulated at all, she's just like her mother and father, that's it, they're both trash and so is she. It was pretty clear from the way she truly believes she's better than Miyo and deserved a better husband. Miyo is different because she didn't grow up with people pampering her and she inherited her kindness from her mother, who was completely different from these two. What I'm trying to say is: Kaya was not brainwashed, it's just her personality. The moment she discovered that she had something her sister didn't, and saw that everyone pampered her for it, she began to feel superior. Just as her mother felt superior to Miyo's mother (because she thought that Miyo's mother failed even to pass on supernatural abilities to her own daughter). Didn't her mom teach her that she should be better than Miyo on everything? Her parents didn't "teach" her, they told her she was already better than Miyo. Ever since they were kids, people only cared about Kaya because she was the only one with paranormal abilities, that's where her ego came from. She felt comfortable being the pampered one and that's why she started to bully Miyo, it's just her twisted personality just like her parents. |
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| The point is that every Homo sapiens has a brain to know what is right and wrong to do. |
Help! I need somebody. Help! Not just anybody. Help! You know I need someone. Helpppppp!  |
| They say that children will often follow their parents footsteps, Kaya is not an exception. It’s greatly due to her mother and stepfather and the environment she was grown up in to end up like this to have such a sense of entitlement and a thinking that she’s superior to Miyo. TLDR: Shitty parents/parenting + terrible environment = despicable child. |
 "You fought to the end. You survived. That's why you're here now. I think that's something you should be more proud of." - Vladilena Milizé |
| I don't think so, like mother, like daughter. they don't want happiness to miyo! |
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| And Kayla’s mother was raised by her own parents and influenced by her surroundings and inevitable life experiences. There’s no end to this. It’s why we need to blame people where blame is due. Either that, or blame existence itself. |
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Icywisy said: You didn't really say anything disproving my comment. LostSpectre said: Sorry, but that's far too shortsighted of a viewpoint when it comes to an impressionable child being manipulated by evil parents. meh, I agree she was manipulated for the bullying by her mother but can't agree if she was not manipulated for the bullying, she won't bully her. Cause just how she treats kouji". Kaya and kouji's relation is not like fiance it's more like boss and worker. And she even let kouji go for another man. Ofc her mother didn't teach her that. She did that on her own. that's why I said she was a bad person in general |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| It's also the "society's fault" here. Would you still condemn Kaya's mother then? |
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| Kaya is such a wasted potential man, she could be a cute tsundere full of character development, but now she's just an irredeemable piece of shit. |
LostSpectre said: Icywisy said: You didn't really say anything disproving my comment. meh, I agree she was manipulated for the bullying by her mother but can't agree if she was not manipulated for the bullying, she won't bully her. Cause just how she treats kouji". Kaya and kouji's relation is not like fiance it's more like boss and worker. And she even let kouji go for another man. Ofc her mother didn't teach her that. She did that on her own. that's why I said she was a bad person in general and that's why it took u 3 days to reply to my comment. I came here to prove she has choices and terrible in general and proved. And if u still reply I take that u didn't understand my comment at all ^^ |
| By their father as well, they were both evil and greedy. |
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| That's not really brainwashing, but her upbringing. She was spoiled entire life and never had to work for anything. It's completely natural. |
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| We can understand where she's coming from, but unless she takes steps to rectify her past mistakes, I couldn't care less about her. She doesn't even have any redeeming qualities or entertaining aspect to balance out her hateful and comically evil personality. |
| I believe Kaya still can redeem herself. What's interesting is that in the manga during the storehouse scene, Kaya is completely passive and she doesn't lay a finger on Miyo. It's the stepmother who beats and chokes Miyo to unconsciousness. Of course, Kaya fully supports her mother's actions there, but that scene in the manga clearly demonstrates who's the leading party. I don't know if this scene plays out the same way in the novel, though. |
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