Weebs solve Gang Violence and Drug Addiction

TheBellman said:
"I don't understand David's motivations, why would he dive into a life of crime and get chromed up when he's seen what it's done to everyone around him"

Yea bro it's simple as that just put down the augs bro walk away just stop being an cyberpunk

Do you think your average crackhead had never seen a crackhead before trying crack? Do you think all those unfortunate boys the world over who join gangs didn't grow up seeing parents and older brothers die in the street?

That's just life, for whatever reason, people keep on doing objectively dumbass things. Maybe it's because they don't know anything else, maybe it's because they have an ego, think they're going to be different. Sometimes they actually have the charisma to draw other people in to support them and follow the same dream (to their demise)

That's kindof what this entire show is about. This isn't a light novel adaptation about hyper rational 300 IQ high schoolers.

3looming said:


anyways, you had a point right up until the 'objectively dumbass' part. because it isn't objectively dumbass to join a gang or whatever: to some people it's practically the only option, the only family they have, and how could your only choice be a dumbass one?

what's dumbass is judging from the outside as you manoeuvre your own existence of choices which have largely been already made for you.

totherpage95 said:
lmao well said but personally it just makes me sad to think about drug abuse the thing i actually don't like is how David's situation wasn't even that desperate his life could have been "normal" in the beginning or theoretically after he saw his leader die

CHT13 said:

Once he got caught up in everything it seemed pretty inevitable. Part of the tragedy was he eventually had Lucy by his side and a lot of money living in a beautiful apartment. Unfortunately he was passed the point of no return. All of that was never going to be enough.

Kaostanza-AoD said:


*bear in mind I never played the game*

This is the part that slightly annoyed me. I had no issues with the plot until David became the gang leader; Maine's cyberpsychosis was inevitable. The time-skip wasn't really necessary and just made David and Lucy seem even more distant than they were. From here though, I feel like there was really no good reason for Lucy to not talk to David about what she saw in the deep-dive, and being secretive about dealing with it just made David even more lost at this point. David had nothing meaningful in the meantime except become stronger with more implants and build his reputation by taking contracts, literally killing people, which obviously will build up the strain on his conscience, therefore lead him closer to cyberpsychosis.

At this point I don't really know what drove David to continue using the harmful implants, at least to the extent at which he did. I was so surprised when I saw David double his normal size, next to Lucy. It felt so wrong knowing how much he mattered to Lucy and how dangerous these cyber augments were. He was experiencing the symptoms the Doctor warned about and shrugged them off...

Why? He was on track to fulfil Lucy's dream WITH him, even saying "only 250K" for a trip to the moon, so he definitely wasn't in a financially desperate situation at all. So then, what fuelled his drive to keep going on, unless he was already too deep in or enjoyed the mercenary life? I personally believe it was largely because of Lucy's absence and evasiveness after the deep-dive gig. Lucy being secretive and on multiple occasions telling David she needs "a little more time" instead of telling him the truth kept him walking on the self destructive path. He needed someone to snap him out of it especially after his uncle/father-figure slowly spiralled into madness and died in front of him. He needed someone to escape with. .. and I think Lucy, the most important person left in his hectic life, let him down here. She had good intentions but instead of opening her arms to him she kept the truth behind the deep-dive gig to herself, and this lack of connection and trust eventually led to her own rash mistake, falling for Faraday's trap due to her stress/emotional state.

CHT13 said:
was it mentioned or was I misinterpreting Lucy’s absence from the gang because I thought once she found out what their true intentions were she was secretly diving to keep Arasaka from finding David.

Kaos-AoD said:


In their argument just before Lucy gets captured, he said something like "After Maine's death, didn't expect you to leave us too." It is heavily implied she's not involved with the gang's activities anymore, thought she is not absent from his life cause well, you do see her laying in their bed a few times and getting up cause David is watching TV.

She was indeed diving in secret (idk where the bath tub was tbh) to protect the data she corrupted that was once about David, but I just don't see a reason she would hide this from him, especially when a lot of the gang's burden are now on his shoulders...

Piromysl said:
Reminds me of this thing:

Piromysl said:
Reminds me of this thing: