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Jun 20, 2021 11:35 AM
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lol the manga is self aware through Vegeta words



so in Perfected Ultra Instinct there are no weaknesses or weak points but then Goku get shocked for a moment that loses him that Ultra Instinct form(?) and thats how he got an open weak point and knocked out by Granolah

the action panels are awesome on this chapter its like classic Dragon Ball manga

lets see if Vegeta will use God of Destruction mode next chapter or he will feel guilty again and lose his destructive urges or power
Jun 20, 2021 12:43 PM
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Solid action chapter, seeing the gap in perfected Ultra Instinct vs. Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan's was pretty great. Granolah having split himself up in two is fine, allowing him to beat Goku through trickery more than raw power (though certainly a combination of the two).

While I don't see any chance for Granolah being finished off here, I do hope Vegeta actually pulls out the win here for once.
Jun 20, 2021 1:04 PM
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Really good stuff. Granolah is continuing to fascinate me, I hope he will continue at this pace in realizing his ultimate goal of getting rid of Frieza for good. I mean, splitting some of his power into a clone that was whooping on Goku until he enters perfected ultra instinct? Just wow. This dude is on another level. In my opinion, as awesome as Vegeta's entry into the battle appears, he stands no chance here. Hoping there is some way they can convince Granolah that they are not his enemies, although with Granolah's steady resolve, this isn't very likely. When is the last time we've seen a dragon ball villain with such desire to achieve his goal, a goal which is far from universal devastation, but simply to avenge the eradication of his people and the conquering of his home planet. Jiren had similar resolve (but he is no villain). Revenge is never the answer, but to some, Granolah's reasons can be seen as just.

Can't wait to see what's in store.
Jun 20, 2021 1:05 PM
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Goku's accuracy dropped over time, he still hasn't mastered UI after all.

But that's cool, Vegeta's fights are more fun and his savageness is back. Seems like he's trying to provoke Granolah to go at him with everything he got.

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Jun 20, 2021 1:07 PM
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FMmatron said:
Goku's accuracy dropped over time, he still hasn't mastered UI after all.

But that's cool, Vegeta's fights are more fun and his savageness is back. Seems like he's trying to provoke Granolah to go at him with everything he got.


For sure. I'm tired of explaining to people that Goku is no where near the mastered ultra instinct state. Whis stated this himself only a couple chapter ago. I mean, Whis literally lives his life in this state, when Goku can do this, he has mastered the technique.
Jun 20, 2021 2:00 PM
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Now Goku's doing unperfected blue too. Idgi, Toyotaro usually has better attention to detail than that. Doesn't really make sense for Goku to be using an inefficient version of the form at this point.
Jun 21, 2021 8:23 AM
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qwertyMrJINX said:
Now Goku's doing unperfected blue too. Idgi, Toyotaro usually has better attention to detail than that. Doesn't really make sense for Goku to be using an inefficient version of the form at this point.
toyotaro isn't writing the manga anymore, toriyama has been back from the start of this arc
Jun 23, 2021 3:18 AM
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So Granolah splited in two and now he beated Goku in one shot. I love the idea of Perfected UI but Goku still needs to train.
Sorry for my english xD!

RIP Kentaro Miura :(
RIP Akira Toriyama :(

Jun 25, 2021 9:44 PM
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Skywringer101 said:
qwertyMrJINX said:
Now Goku's doing unperfected blue too. Idgi, Toyotaro usually has better attention to detail than that. Doesn't really make sense for Goku to be using an inefficient version of the form at this point.
toyotaro isn't writing the manga anymore, toriyama has been back from the start of this arc

I don't imagine Toriyama's super specific about which form of Blue the character's use, so I'm gonna say this is probably still on Toyotaro.
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qwertyMrJINX said:
Skywringer101 said:
toyotaro isn't writing the manga anymore, toriyama has been back from the start of this arc

I don't imagine Toriyama's super specific about which form of Blue the character's use, so I'm gonna say this is probably still on Toyotaro.
um what? Toyotaro doesn't write the manga anymore, it's toriyama.
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Skywringer101 said:
qwertyMrJINX said:

I don't imagine Toriyama's super specific about which form of Blue the character's use, so I'm gonna say this is probably still on Toyotaro.
um what? Toyotaro doesn't write the manga anymore, it's toriyama.

But Toyotaro's still on the art.
Jul 5, 2021 4:59 AM

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Goku's bad habits of switching power ups 100 times a minute has caught up to him again. He really needs to train his wits rather than muscles at this point
Nov 1, 2021 7:00 AM
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Vegeta controls the manga not toyotarou or toriyama😂
Feb 15, 2022 5:35 AM
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Trash just trash.... You are telling me beings who are god likes and have toughness more than stars are getting knocked out by getting hit at vital points
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vegeta has been getting his time to shine and i'm here for it! its still ridiculous that this fight doesn't seem to really even need to happen in the first place, seeing as granolahs main issue is freeza and this is all a ploy from the heeters lol

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