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| The whole motorcycle riding stuff doesn't click with me. The demoniac fusing with a motorcycle reminds me of that futuristic PS2 racing game, wish I can remember the name. The demoniac look pretty sweet although I also don't like the term, demoniac. Oh yeah! I remember the name of the game now, it's Kinetica. Yeah, Kinetica.. I also don't like Gerd. Overall, I think it was a nice first episode. |
| This is really bad, worse than Dragonaut and i didn't think that was possible. I'm dropping it and i never usually drop anime, epecially not after one episode. |
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| Eh. I didn't think it was THAT bad but: -Gerd -demoniac term -CG was weird (although that might be because it was on cr and everything sucks there) +Shizuka Itou +sci-fi in general +no gigantic boobs in sight |
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| Yeah, the girl was hot. Plus the mysterious dude dressed in black was pretty cool too. If anything, I'll probably watch this just for her. |
| I've seen worse. With youtube I can't curse on the CG so much. This actually picked my interest more than Druaga did, and that's saying something, because I was all hyped towards the other one. This method GONZO is using isn't so bad, though I'd like more HQ sources. Glad they decided to translate the ending song this time. Will keep watching for the time being. |
AnimusNathan said: Also where was Joseph?! I thought he was supposed to be the hero. We only see him twice, and both times he's doing nothing. Too busy being mysterious. |
AnimusNathan said: SamuraiTom said: AnimusNathan said: Also where was Joseph?! I thought he was supposed to be the hero. We only see him twice, and both times he's doing nothing. Too busy being mysterious. GONZO. I actually like Gonzo. |
SamuraiTom said: Yeah, the girl was hot. Plus the mysterious dude dressed in black was pretty cool too. If anything, I'll probably watch this just for her. I can't believe you'd watch this, just for that reason. What a waste of time. |
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Fayli said: SamuraiTom said: Yeah, the girl was hot. Plus the mysterious dude dressed in black was pretty cool too. If anything, I'll probably watch this just for her. I can't believe you'd watch this, just for that reason. What a waste of time. Seconded. There are so many other titles to check out. |
| I'll watch all the other shows and this too. AngelLily said: Fayli said: SamuraiTom said: Yeah, the girl was hot. Plus the mysterious dude dressed in black was pretty cool too. If anything, I'll probably watch this just for her. I can't believe you'd watch this, just for that reason. What a waste of time. Seconded. There are so many other titles to check out. I'll watch all the other shows and Blassreiter too. |
| Like I said somewhere else, I don't care too much about which studio's making what. A show isn't bad until I see it become bad. |
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| So much terrible, terrible CG...it's really mind-boggling. I honestly can't beleive that Druaga is the better of Gonzo's two shows. I'll keep up with this for at least one more episode, but it looks like it might be a total waste of time. It's really too bad the shows Gonzo is showcasing with their subtitles are so terrible. I think this might get a negative response solely for that reason, while the subs themselves are actually decent. |
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Crenshinibon said: So much terrible, terrible CG...it's really mind-boggling. I honestly can't beleive that Druaga is the better of Gonzo's two shows. I'll keep up with this for at least one more episode, but it looks like it might be a total waste of time. It's really too bad the shows Gonzo is showcasing with their subtitles are so terrible. I think this might get a negative response solely for that reason, while the subs themselves are actually decent. So far most feedback from Druaga has been positive. On another note i'm not into all this 'LOLZ GONZO' crap, because like any studio they have their hits and misses. This sounded so much like Dragonaut though, that i wasn't expecting much. |
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SamuraiTom said: I do too, when they don't fall flat on their faces, in which this is the case. Seriously, this is about as bad, if not worse, then Dragonaut's first episode, and Dragonaut was pretty crappy. I disagree with Crenshinibon though, since Druaga IMO is a very good show, at least so far, and has a lot more potential then Blassreiter, if only cause of the staff and the FMP author lending a hand. AnimusNathan said: SamuraiTom said: AnimusNathan said: Also where was Joseph?! I thought he was supposed to be the hero. We only see him twice, and both times he's doing nothing. Too busy being mysterious. GONZO. I actually like Gonzo. |
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AnimusNathan said: Gankutsuou had a great ending. Just cause it's different from the novel doesn't mean it's utter shit. R x V was actually pretty ok, but I wouldn't watch it agian. I agree with the rest of what you put up though. Also don't treat someone like an idiot because they don't hang out on 4chan :p.Fayli said: So far most feedback from Druaga has been positive. On another note i'm not into all this 'LOLZ GONZO' crap, because like any studio they have their hits and misses. This sounded so much like Dragonaut though, that i wasn't expecting much. It's just a thing from /a/ and it's not LOLZ GONZO its LOL GONZO. It's based off LOL GAINAX. And no, most of GONZOs work is total shit. They have a very few good ones, but most are either crap from the start or fall apart at the end. R+V Dragonaut Romeo x Juliet Afro Samurai Witchblade Speed Grapher Gankutsuou(the ending was horrible, don't deny it) Saikano Final Fantasy Unlimited Vandread and these are just the ones I've seen. Most have good beginnings and then start to suck, or just suck from the beginning. |
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| Okay, well I'm not about to go hating a show just because its first episode wasn't too hot. I'd have missed out on tons of shows then if that were the case. |
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| I found Speed Grapher and Saikano to be highly enjoyable. I'm running through Witchblade and am enjoying it. |
rah-rah said: Also don't treat someone like an idiot because they don't hang out on 4chan :p. Or state your opinion as if it were common belief/everyone agrees with you. I personally think GONZO has failed, but is not the only studio to have so. |
AnimusNathan said: Fayli said: So far most feedback from Druaga has been positive. On another note i'm not into all this 'LOLZ GONZO' crap, because like any studio they have their hits and misses. This sounded so much like Dragonaut though, that i wasn't expecting much. It's just a thing from /a/ and it's not LOLZ GONZO its LOL GONZO. It's based off LOL GAINAX. And no, most of GONZOs work is total shit. They have a very few good ones, but most are either crap from the start or fall apart at the end. R+V Dragonaut Romeo x Juliet Afro Samurai Witchblade Speed Grapher Gankutsuou(the ending was horrible, don't deny it) Saikano Final Fantasy Unlimited Vandread and these are just the ones I've seen. Most have good beginnings and then start to suck, or just suck from the beginning. It's subjective if a series is bad or not. This is just a stupid mindset that people have, and half of the time then i think people are just saying it to fit in. |
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| Can't we all just watch this as it comes out every week and be happy little campers? Granted, not all of us are going to be happy but let's not ruin it for everyone else, shall we? |
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AnimusNathan said: Fayli said: It's subjective if a series is bad or not. This is just a stupid mindset that people have, and half of the time then i think people are just saying it to fit in. I think it's a stupid mindset that people have to ignore the truth by saying everything is subjective. And only say nice things and never assume the worst about anything, just to fit in. It's stupid either way that people feel like they have to compromise their own opinion. That said, if somebody has such a big problem with Gonzo they should stop watching their shows. |
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| If you hate Gonzo, move the hell along and go watch something else. I watched the first episode and it has a lot of promise. It's pretty cheesy, but that's why I enjoyed it. Ignoring the ugly CGI it was interesting and I liked the demoniacs. The fights were pretty good as well. I'll keep watching. |
telethaApr 5, 2008 2:08 PM
I mean, most anime is garbage in general No, most of anime is average, that's why there's a word "average", most of anime will inevitably fall into what is average for anime (I'm not sure if I'm making much sense here, but I hope you understand what I meant). It more or less goes: very bad - bad - average - good - very good and NOT: very bad - very good Don't judge things in black and white, it's not healthy. @ topic: Usually I'm apathetic towards CG and GONZO made one of my most favourite series ever (Full Metal Panic, I'm a sucker for military and romance), but this... after few minutes I just gave up, I couldn't stand animation that makes it feel like I'm watching a cut scene from a video game. |
fantyApr 5, 2008 2:25 PM
yFANTgirl said: @ topic: Usually I'm apathetic towards CG and GONZO made one of my most favourite series ever (Full Metal Panic, I'm a sucker for military and romance), but this... after few minutes I just gave up, I couldn't stand animation that makes it feel like I'm watching a cut scene from a video game. That, and it was just so dull. |
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Iriya said: Okay, well I'm not about to go hating a show just because its first episode wasn't too hot. I'd have missed out on tons of shows then if that were the case. I agree. I think you guys are all overreacting a bit. This was only the first episode. How much do you expect from the first episode? Give it a chance. I thought it was pretty good, and the only thing I really can complain about is the CG, but really is just because I do not like CG at all, no matter who's producing it (whether it's Gonzo or not, I don't really like it.) But I'm not gonna drop a series just solely for that. Also, I would like to see Joseph get into the picture more, since he's supposed to be the main character, but I believe that'll happen soon with the coming episodes, so that I won't complain about. I think it was a good start and introduction for the show. Nothing spectacular, but by no means bad. |
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AnimusNathan said: Rainulf said: eh? I think it was pretty good. I'm not going to criticize, since the story's still developing, so we'll see. Animation's really good, and so is the CG. Anyway, I think it was an awesome episode. I look forward for more. What are you talking about? The CGI is horrible and guessing by how the shading is on the characters they're CGI too. It's horrible. Why do people always say this about everything? "looks really good" etc. when it looks like total shit. Do you have no standards whatsoever? Sorry it's just that when people praise something like this(especially the worst aspect) it allows studios like LOL GONZO to continue making crap. SamuraiTom said: The whole motorcycle riding stuff doesn't click with me. The demoniac fusing with a motorcycle reminds me of that futuristic PS2 racing game, wish I can remember the name. The demoniac look pretty sweet although I also don't like the term, demoniac. Oh yeah! I remember the name of the game now, it's Kinetica. Yeah, Kinetica.. I also don't like Gerd. Overall, I think it was a nice first episode. Yea I feel like I'm watching a kids show(and yes I realize most anime is aimed at kids, but I mean this feels like its aimed at 5 year olds) where a kid would say "COOL BIKES!" and "COOL CARS!" and crap. I get the same feeling when there are too many damn dragons in an anime(lol dragonauts, aliens look like dragons.) The only thing I liked about this was the Pink haired girl because she was hot. Thats not good. Blood and Nudity is not for 5 year olds, so you may want to take back that statement. As for the episode itself, I was dissapointed. Hopefully a plot will develop. |
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| I thought it was ok enough to continue watching the series, although watching it on those streaming sites that GONZO is using to distribute it makes the quality shit... |
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| First episode was decent, the CGI didn't bother me too much (If you think that stuff is bad you should have another look at Dragonaut) as I was watching it from youtube(Bad quality ftl) , but the animation seemed fine, some parts were corny as hell but I'll have to wait to see how the rest turns out as it has promise. Never been a fan of CGI in anime it just always seems out of place but that doesn't hold me back from enjoying an anime, it just depends if the rest of the show makes up for it and that the CGI doesn't get in the way. This discussion on the other hand.. kind of a pain to read with the constant trolling. Seriously, we get it. You don't like Gonzo, you think they are crap, you think their shows are crap. That's fine but don't put other members down for likeing it. |
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| You people bitch far too much and it's people like you that makes me hate anime fans. It's one episode. You're far too early to be making your mind up. |
| I really can't see what would be so horribly bad about this. I admit it doesn't seem like a masterpiece but I thought it was still quite decent. I'm willing to give it a few more episodes to see if it gets intresting. |
| It'll never be one of my faves, I know that, but its too early to say if I'll drop it or not. @AnimusNathan: Stop stating your opinions as if they are absolute fact. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean that everybody else has to hate it too. |
JeliseApr 5, 2008 4:27 PM
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| I don't quite agree with those who say that "it's only the first episode" : if a show has anything to do well, it's the first episode. It's the very first contact with the viewer, it's the first impression, and it counts THAT much. I'm with those who hate Gonzo. Simply because they screwed too many potentially good shows (sometimes, I ask myself : "what would Speed Grapher look like if it was done by Madhouse ?"... and I drool). This first episode was nothing good, nothing bad, it was just your average Gonzo first episode. I'm not particularily hyped with it, though I don't have many reasons to condemn it. I still predict the "LOL GONZO" for this one, referring to the typical Gonzo animes that start quite good and become more and more boring, uninteresting, uninspired, dull and flat after 5-6 episodes. 95% of Gonzo animes I watched followed this same pattern (yes, including NHK ni Youkoso!). I don't really like the CG (it feels way too "unnatural", I like to have the sensation that these 24 drawings my eyes are analyzing per second were hand-drawn with love and passion) and the story seems kind of kitsch. I think I'll stick with it until the "LOL GONZO" factor starts appearing. If it does, I'll lol at those who followed it to the end just as I lol'd to those who followed Dragonaut until the end. If it doesn't, it would have been a good show to follow and I'm not against it. Either way, I'll be enjoying myself. :D |
WindspiritApr 5, 2008 6:25 PM
They are neither plants nor animals. They differ from other forms of life such as the micro-organisms and the fungi. Instead they resemble the primeval body of life and are generally known as Mushi. Their existence and appearance are unknown to many and only a limited number of humans are aware of them. |
| Definitely disappointing, though I didn't expect much from it to begin with. Personal, one Gonzo is enough for me in a season. The CG effects were lame and seemed very unnatural. The story itself was just boring and left me feeling somewhat confused. I can already guess that I'll probably just drop this series by the end of the next episode, which I will watch just to see if there's a small chance it gets better. The enemy thing looks reasonably cool. |
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| Even if it's Youtube or Crunchyroll, I thought the quality was quite good. I can at least tell that the 2D animation is amazing and the CGI is horrible. Just look at the magnificent hand-drawn fire and the generic CG smoke. The difference is obvious. |
They are neither plants nor animals. They differ from other forms of life such as the micro-organisms and the fungi. Instead they resemble the primeval body of life and are generally known as Mushi. Their existence and appearance are unknown to many and only a limited number of humans are aware of them. |
| CG was definitely better than whatever Dragonauts had but still not good enough. The first episode seems to go by a little too quick. |
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