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Mar 26, 2021 8:28 AM
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Meh, it's still the same shit you see every week in terms of mech battles and story development. They tried to make it dramatic but it's not very different from what you usually see.

I will say this though..Ren Sin had a lot of screen time and a mission on her mind. She's just the type to not give up any fight that she gets herself in.
Mar 26, 2021 9:27 AM
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Stark700 said:
Meh, it's still the same shit you see every week in terms of mech battles and story development. They tried to make it dramatic but it's not very different from what you usually see.


That sounds like an inflexible and narrow-minded way of thinking. Compared to previous episodes of this series, we are seeing new developments this week in terms of both the cast of characters and the mecha.

That's a good thing and, honestly, normal for a mecha anime. Complaining about that would be like getting mad about One Piece being full of shonen-style developments that aren't "very different from what you usually see" in its own genre. Based on that sort of logic, you're setting a bar that is almost impossible to clear, if we take your statement literally.

Then again, I also realize traditional mecha anime are no longer popular these days...which is a shame. Unless you're tied to an already existing property, of course, but that's to be expected.
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Mar 26, 2021 9:49 AM
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A Kai x Ren fusion? Why not, especially that they seem to be definitely stronger like that since Back Arrow was in a pretty bad situation at the end but I'm sure he'll beat them anyway.
Mar 26, 2021 9:56 AM
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ahh we're finally at least halfway there... this anime is so scuffed lmao. feels like a bootleg of code geass or something, if you like this anime please just go watch that instead, its 100% better than this
Mar 26, 2021 10:22 AM
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spaesu said:
ahh we're finally at least halfway there... this anime is so scuffed lmao. feels like a bootleg of code geass or something, if you like this anime please just go watch that instead, its 100% better than this


Ooooor. We’ll just watch this because Geass is mid and overhyped by meatheads.
Mar 26, 2021 10:22 AM
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Marinate1016 said:
spaesu said:
ahh we're finally at least halfway there... this anime is so scuffed lmao. feels like a bootleg of code geass or something, if you like this anime please just go watch that instead, its 100% better than this


Ooooor. We’ll just watch this because Geass is mid and overhyped by meatheads.
i mean at least code geass is interesting and enjoyable
Mar 26, 2021 10:24 AM
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Fun and over the top episode as usual, I like how this show feels like a return to what mecha shows used to be back in the day. Yes, it’s repetitive at times because that’s how the mecha genre was meant to be. Lots of monster of the week types of encounters for the cast and ridiculous action.

I do hope in the second half we begin to get a little faster plot development. We are like 12 episodes in now and it’s gonna become crunch time soon.
Mar 26, 2021 10:25 AM
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spaesu said:
Marinate1016 said:


Ooooor. We’ll just watch this because Geass is mid and overhyped by meatheads.
i mean at least code geass is interesting and enjoyable


It’s not. But if you don’t like this show, just don’t watch it it’s pretty simple.
Mar 26, 2021 10:27 AM
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It seems like the Princess is still hiding something again, anyway I couldn't careless about female characters.

Talking about woman, I'm glad that Kai made a politically uncorrect speech about borrowing woman's power, I love unrefined man and Kai is one of the best of my collection. In fact, he wins my heart based on his physical appearance alone!

And it seems like Shu already calculated the whole situation again, he's not just an intellectual counterpart of Kai, he's in his own league, and there's no one besides him in that league yet. I expect the real enemy is beyond the wall. Everyone must work together to break the wall.
Mar 26, 2021 10:28 AM

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Seriously? Classic vs. Modern anime? Shut up and grow up your mentality dweebs.

That said, the war is still unsettling the commonfolk and some pep talk must be given to sweeten the "promise", as is with some downtime since Emperor Zetsu called for it. But if there one thing, don't try to challenge his "Conviction", the same way that Ren Sin is paying for her training of revenge against Shu Bi.

Don't ever try stupid things, Bit. Glad that Shu Bi is keeping him on watch like a useful dog.

In the cases of Kai and Ren Sin, their emotions got the better of them so much that their Convictions don't matter a lot, much less their pride and ego. Ren Sin opting for teamwork with Kai vs. Kai going individually, the former pep talk helped bring up the latter, and of course, they combined to become one for comrades in unity to take down not only Back Arrow, but Shu Bi as well.

The 1st Cour is done, and so far, the best it has been is averagely so-so.
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Marinate1016 said:
spaesu said:
i mean at least code geass is interesting and enjoyable


It’s not. But if you don’t like this show, just don’t watch it it’s pretty simple.
really getting tired of people telling me not to watch something just because i dislike it, does it really bother you that much? :/
Mar 26, 2021 10:40 AM
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It really does seem like conviction is strengthened by adversity or rather overcoming it, after Ren’s arduous ordeal she gains the ability to fly and since Emperor Zetsu spurred on this development that would imply he seems to know a lot about how conviction works. There’s also him naming Gigan which, according to Shu helps strengthen Briheights by personifying them. So he’s not only a powerful individual, but he’s also able to bring out the best of his subordinates, really liking this character. I also imagine Ren seeing the Muga sword combination with Atlee (Ryuju) and Arrow telling her to think of a way to help her ally instead of killing herself inspired the Gattai. Didn’t really care for Ren’s character before, but I really liked her in this episode, it’s also nice that people apart from Arrow can gain new abilities, Reppu’s bow and flying and Ryuju’s lightning whip.

If conviction is strengthened by adversity, then the Edger villagers would have tons of potential, if anyone has gone through adversity in this series it’s them. From barely surviving in the Iki Territory with barely any food and losing people to epidemics. Also, Elsha, Atlee and Bit all losing their parents meaning Burk had to bury his own child. To being attacked by the officials of Iki and forced to relocate and almost being killed again by Fine’s other personality. The Grandedger is also named after their old village, so there’s definitely a power up down the line with their name on it, literally.

The OST that played when Kai got his resolve back and formed Gigan Reppu with Ren was pretty sweet. Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem like a rematch is going to happen next episode if Arrow’s problem is the same thing that interrupted his fight with Prax in episode 9.
Mar 26, 2021 12:48 PM

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spaesu said:
Marinate1016 said:


It’s not. But if you don’t like this show, just don’t watch it it’s pretty simple.
really getting tired of people telling me not to watch something just because i dislike it, does it really bother you that much? :/


Yea it kinda does. When someone is constantly bashes something yet continues to watch it, it’s very odd. This show is never going to be enjoyable to you. Just give it the 3-4 and watch JJK or AoT .
Mar 26, 2021 1:16 PM
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spaesu said:
really getting tired of people telling me not to watch something just because i dislike it, does it really bother you that much? :/


Yea it kinda does. When someone is constantly bashes something yet continues to watch it, it’s very odd. This show is never going to be enjoyable to you. Just give it the 3-4 and watch JJK or AoT .
I have watched both of those shows, i do not drop any anime, that is all. i see you feel the need to reply to me because i dislike this show, if a negative opinion on this anime makes you feel offended, i suggest you go visit a local counsellor or watch this video:

Mar 26, 2021 1:52 PM

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Think that Ren x Kai fusion mech looks cool as fuck. That little bit of 2D animation by Toshiyuki Sato was great but too short :3

Now that we seen it's possible for mechs to fuse I wonder if there will be more fusions in the future and up to how many it's possible to fuse. I would for example love to see Arrow fusing with others depending on what's needed in situation, etc.
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Mar 26, 2021 4:15 PM
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so if you lose your fighting spirit you die eh together with the conviction particles

Kai and Ren gattai/combination looks great

looks like Arrow is imploding? might be because he is confuse of not wanting to kill his enemies but at the same time he sometimes need to kill in order to win
Mar 26, 2021 7:03 PM

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I'm getting frustrated with this anime.

When I think Arrow will fight the Emperor. Kai appear again because he wants his lover back. But no, this time is to kill the one who stole the lover, with the help of the woman who he fear losing his lover to.

The now I can fly part was strange to say the least. Arrow okay because basic Plot Armor, Prax because science, and we have Rekka because yes.
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Mar 27, 2021 12:43 AM

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THIS is what this anime should do more often, focus on the actual interesting characters, pretty much most people in roku´s faction, be it the emperor, ren or kai, they are by far the most interesting characters, everyone in lutoh just brings boredom and the village people just make angry. Despite that tho, Shun and Arrow are growing on me for sure, i do like that arrow isnt sure about killing people, because well, his power is literally not killing them lol.
The animation this episode was by far the best, nothing spectacular, but there were some honestly sakuga moments. So whats the reason for the sakuga? Did they actually make this episode on Studio VOLN and finally NOT outsource an episode? Nope, it was outsourced to A1, which makes a lot more sense :)
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That little bit of 2D animation by Toshiyuki Sato was great but too short :3
Indeed ;_;
Mar 27, 2021 2:03 AM

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Pretty good episode! Honestly, Ren Sin is probably my favorite character in the show, well next to Shu Bi of course. Damn, that animation though when Ren was training with that general dude. The show has some pretty exceptional CG already, but the 2D animation is also pretty good.

The Gigan Reppu fusion briheight looks sick, I wonder what that injured hand is going to do to Arrow.
Mar 27, 2021 3:17 AM

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Kai-Ren's Gattai robot looks Getter as hell, I love it.
Mar 27, 2021 7:25 AM
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Conviction particles? Ugh I'm pretty sure this was meant for 5 year olds, it's like the old school go nagai mecha stuff for kids who've never seen anything else. Look kids winning just takes determination uh oh the bad guys got more determined hopefully next week the good guys get even more, more determined. <_<
Mar 27, 2021 10:40 AM

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So Briheight pilots become the conviction particles (which we know are nanomachines) if they are killed in battle? They're killed because their conviction/spririt is weak, too. Either the nanomachines rearrange the human's body on an atomic/molecular level and use them as raw building material to replicate, or the "humans" are made of conviction particles initially and return to being individual conviction particles if they disintegrate. I'm hoping this goes the route of sufficiently advance technology being indistinguishable from magic since Lingalind itself is implied to be artificial someone doesn't want its (possibly artificial) inhabitants to get out.

Ren Sin gets her own Briheight and it can gattai with Kai's. I like the red and blue design.

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Mar 27, 2021 11:27 AM
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Ah, the way Arrow injured like that, something must be happened. So, thats it, some kind of limitation maybe happening there, or some kind of mal-function? Idk. But one thing for sure, the alter ego princess possibly intervene directly to face the difficulties ahead....

Well, the episode actually continuing Kai and Ren lne sided anger toward Shu. As expected, the woman was never tired to chase the impossibility, especially after hearing that annoying Sugita laughs xd. The way Zetsu just threw her off like that. Well, as a result, they got a fusion, even got a wing as an additional booster. Everything sounds very possible, without caring how that thing works, and any other power system details. Mecha logic.

So, anyway, lets see how well Arrow Briheight conviction power developed after that sudden change of the situations. Not gonna mention Prax may contribute too, especially after getting such a let-down. So, yeah, lets wait for it...
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Mar 27, 2021 12:11 PM

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We got some nice action and a new powerup from Kai and Ren. I have a feeling something big is going to happen next episode.

Btw Code Geass and Back Arrow are both good, calm down guys.
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Mar 27, 2021 8:17 PM

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The Emperor and pals humiliate, and attempt to kill Ren for her disgrace, and she uses that as yet another excuse for how Arrow's really the evil one for making them abuse her like that. So she goes running right back to them, is given a new wingier mech, which, shock of shocks, becomes the wings for Kai to remove his weakness… next week. Maybe. Assuming Arrow's crippling hand ouchie that sends him into paroxysms of screaming violent pain at the end of the episode doesn't send us off in some other direction. Why are we even defending this country of lunatic murderers anyway?
Mar 28, 2021 3:53 AM
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spaesu said:
ahh we're finally at least halfway there... this anime is so scuffed lmao. feels like a bootleg of code geass or something, if you like this anime please just go watch that instead, its 100% better than this


That would even compare it to Code Geass tells me how utterly ignorant you are of mecha anime. Go watch Dunbine or something then come back to me.
Mar 28, 2021 3:54 AM
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spaesu said:
ahh we're finally at least halfway there... this anime is so scuffed lmao. feels like a bootleg of code geass or something, if you like this anime please just go watch that instead, its 100% better than this


That would even compare it to Code Geass tells me how utterly ignorant you are of mecha anime. Go watch Dunbine or something then come back to me.
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Mar 28, 2021 8:01 AM

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the heck happened to back arrow!?!?
Ren powered-up huh...
4/5.


Mar 29, 2021 3:18 PM
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This was a good episode! Kai's realization of how his judgment had been clouded was very believable and nice to see. Now he is a true warrior again.

Still don't like Shu's perpetual smile as if he knows everything. Only once did it disappear, in the last episode. When he was facing Kai here, it should have disappeared again. It would have made him more realistic.

Anyway, nice to see some good fight scenes. Let's pretend the sparkling-boy-farm episode never happened, or the cartoon-fat guy below ground, and just enjoy the combat technology.


Ehh, an account with three posts since 2011 says this? "That would even compare it to Code Geass tells me how utterly ignorant you are of mecha anime." Like, that is what makes you come out of your coma? That's your priority? Holy crap.

More fighting next episode! Gotta listen to some Manowar until then.


Down from the sky
Into the fight
Hearts full of rage, full of thunder and glory
Swords in the wind
Crossing the sky
Lords of doom, bring an end to their story

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Now we will fight for the kingdom fighting with steel
Kill all of them, their blood is our seal
Fight till the last of the enemy is dead
Ride through the blood that we gladly have shed
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Apr 2, 2021 9:05 AM

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Kai and Ren keeps getting more and more annoying. As expected Ren finally got her briheight and her briheight kind of looked cool untill it merged with Kai's one, meh.

Kai's back to normal and he wants to crush Back Arrow so that Shu's dream will be shattered. Jokes on him lol.
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Why would those people trust the princess just because she's adorable? That seems unrealistic in a time of war.

So the robots can combine now, for whatever reason other than the obvious one of giving Kai wings, too. Shu was apparently planning to let Kai die out there.

The whole show is taking quite the turn to worse, with this war between two crazy-functioning nations that I'm supposed to care about as a viewer.
Apr 5, 2021 9:22 PM

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Why would those people trust the princess just because she's adorable? That seems unrealistic in a time of war.


I would argue she's their princess and her personality has already been established, so I don't see why that would be an issue.


So the robots can combine now, for whatever reason other than the obvious one of giving Kai wings, too. Shu was apparently planning to let Kai die out there.


One, mecha anime has a very long tradition of combinations throughout its history.

Two, the "mecha" in this series are made up of conviction particles and not solid materials.

In other words, the process is supernatural or unrealistic, but it's easier to accept under that premise.


The whole show is taking quite the turn to worse, with this war between two crazy-functioning nations that I'm supposed to care about as a viewer.


I don't know what you will care about, but as for me, I'm enjoying the show a lot lately.

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Tomislavr7 said:
So the robots can combine now, for whatever reason other than the obvious one of giving Kai wings, too. Shu was apparently planning to let Kai die out there.


One, mecha anime has a very long tradition of combinations throughout its history.

Two, the "mecha" in this series are made up of conviction particles and not solid materials.

In other words, the process is supernatural or unrealistic, but it's easier to accept under that premise.

Those are not good excuses, either. At this point, anything the author wants at the moment goes because it's magic.
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Those are not good excuses, either. At this point, anything the author wants at the moment goes because it's magic.


This tells me you would dislike any Super Robot anime then, or at least most of them.
Jul 31, 2021 9:11 AM

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Its nice that Kai and Ren managed to bounce back from having lost, will make for a good fight.
Ominous end with Arrows' hand going out of control which is something I can relate to every time after a night session with my fap hand.

Dec 10, 2021 1:46 AM

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I was actually shipping Ren and Shuu from the start but from where this is going, it will be Ren and Kai... >_<

Yup, they tried making it more dramatic than it should be and it also felt rushed in this episode.

What will happen to Back Arrow, I wonder...
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