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Mar 19, 2021 8:28 AM
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Welp, at least the princess is back in control of his normal self now. And she got to spend some quality time with her friends in the baths.

But yeah, action came back full fold again in the second half. It seems everyone has a point to prove on the battlefield. Back Arrow seems more tense in his fight than usual. Pretty typical episode as usual, didn't feel like much really changed for this show.
Mar 19, 2021 9:05 AM
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Stark700 said:

Pretty typical episode as usual, didn't feel like much really changed for this show.


It's part one of a battle that is clearly still continuing, so that seems like a very odd phrase.


Mar 19, 2021 9:47 AM
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The amount of action during the 2nd half was pretty good, but sure Ren was stupid for trying to explode herself like that, at least Arrow was epic for most of his moves
Mar 19, 2021 9:53 AM
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welp, they're at war now so i guess thats cool. really dont know what direction this show is tryna go
Mar 19, 2021 10:00 AM
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Arrow becoming king would be an interesting twist lol. I hate how Ren is on this self destructive path, and hope that Arrow’s speech to her will get her back to her senses.

The war is here and can’t wait to see how it turns out.
Mar 19, 2021 10:21 AM
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I like Arrow's attitude, today's enemy is just a future's friend. And his ability that can end a fight without killing aligns with my no death principle. Though it look like a lot of people were already killed in this anime.

Anyway, while the overall animation quality is good, I don't understand while some scene is very bad, specifically, doctor's face is very long.

The next episode preview shows Shu's Briheight and take on Kai? Since this is two cour I'm confident that the kingdom will be united with Back Arrow as a ruler and together taking on the wall. And the second cour will be nothing like the first cour, just like Gurren Lagann.
Mar 19, 2021 11:02 AM
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all the mystery characters in the OP are now revealed i hope there will be a new OP soon

Shu and Lutoh is close to making artificial bind warpers eh
basically its nanomachines that amplifies conviction of the user
and all those metal found on Lingalind are this nanomachines eh

Arrow basically wants to save people rather than kill them to make them his friends later on lol (Son Goku reference belief?)
no wonder Arrow has that mystery of him of not killing his enemy when he defeated their robot BriHeights

the action was cool but damn the character drawings are bad
Mar 19, 2021 12:01 PM
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The first part was pretty meh, a lot of "development" but they really just give no time for emotional scenes (doctor and princess) so it just feels extremely flat and you just dont care.
The second part of the episode was honestly extremely fun tho, it focused on the thing the show actually does well, which is 3D action. Great action choreography and direction. I also liked that Ren started the episode calling back arrow a coward and then being called a coward by back arrow ahah, i really liked that dynamic. And, despite the first half, the last conversation between arrow and Shun was actually pretty good, they are by far the best characters in the show (and the emperor also seems like a great villain).
Probably one of, if not my favorite episode of the show.
Mar 19, 2021 1:31 PM
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So the liquid metals underground are conviction particles and those particles react to strong conviction. The prophecy in episode 2 said “But when the newcomer reaches self-realization, the world will be destroyed.” Maybe by destroying the world, it means turning Lingalind into a giant Briheight.

Aiming for Arrow to be the King of Lingalind huh? Weird development, in episode 9 Zetsu gave that one rebel the opportunity to become Emperor if he defeated him, so I guess Arrow will be given a similar opportunity.

New Mecha designs, Goh’s Baryu and Ren’s Shunretsu, really digging the design of the former one, nice dragon motif fitting for the Chinese inspired Rekka.

Good tactic taking advantage of Kai’s (Gigan) lack of air mobility, though kinda disappointing after all those cutaways to him training in the past episodes, only for him to be completely ineffective the next time he fights. It seemed like Shu wanted Arrow to kill him as well, not sure where this plot line is going now. Also confused to what Ren was thinking with that suicide bombing attempt, it’s not like conventional weaponry works on Briheights.

Nice javelin throw by Zetsu, seriously, this guy is a monster he was able to send Prax all the way back to the capital, if he ever uses a Briheight he’ll be incredibly overpowered.

With Zetsu challenging Fine to come and fight him and the bath scene showing Fine doubting her ability to win the war thinking her other personality is better equipped for this, definitely seems like Fine will use that Bind Warper to bring her back. Also there’s Sola, he was given a Bind Warper and since he was the previous Armored Supreme he should be comparable to Prax in strength. There’s also his goal of wanting to cure Fine, the reason he left and became a doctor.

Decent start to the war so far, hope that Rekka’s dreadnought which Shu mentioned before and the giant Katana ornament on the capital of Rekka don’t go unused.
Mar 19, 2021 1:39 PM

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Ok, so we see Shu helping that Lotuh scientist develop a Birheight that uses liquid nano particle, but hold on, didn't Shu just nicked 2 of them, so what he gonna do with those BirHeights?
Mar 19, 2021 3:13 PM

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The war has started and we got ton of action great action in the episode. I especially liked how Kai was beaten in an unconventional way, hurts him a lot.

Back Arrow actually becoming a king of the land sounds really intersting. Would love to see it so he can lead them all to or against whatever is beyond the wall. This war will probably end in next couple of episodes with him becoming king or whatever then they should discover what' behind the walls and I predict show's setting will radically change for the second half (similar to Guren Lagann). The Grandedger looking like a spaceship isn't a coincidence.

I also can't wait to see if Arrow will fight emperor Zetsu, or will Fine use her bindwraper and fight him. Both sounds epic and I am sure one of those will happen.
Mar 19, 2021 4:48 PM

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Hero did something heroic and saved someone who was about to waste her life away, that was pretty good.

More onsen scenes? sure, throw them all at me.
Mar 19, 2021 7:51 PM

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The staged kingdom war between Lutoh and Rekka has finally started...may the kingdom won reign supreme in unifying Lingalind.

On the one hand, Lutoh creating artificial Bind Warpers as opposed to Rekka just giving Bind Warpers of the same kingdom Conviction, well that's interesting enough.

Shu Bi's sugggestion to Back Arrow being king of the Lingalind land, that is a case worth warranting about for the 2nd half of the show.

Tsarko said:
Back Arrow actually becoming a king of the land sounds really intersting. Would love to see it so he can lead them all to or against whatever is beyond the wall. This war will probably end in next couple of episodes with him becoming king or whatever then they should discover what' behind the walls and I predict show's setting will radically change for the second half (similar to Guren Lagann). The Grandedger looking like a spaceship isn't a coincidence.
Oh yeah, definitely giving off those Gurren Lagann vibes.

The re-match of Ren Sin, Kai Rhodan, Shu Bi and Back Arrow for the 2nd half of this episode is matching the experience similar to Gurren Lagann (you can even tell where the inspiration came from). Arrow's prospect to prefer life rather than death, if he were to go this route of being king, that is a positive in and of itself.

Emperor Zetsu Daidan's power is truly fearsome, though I'd wonder if what he suggested about his hunger provides a hint for a weakness.

Probably I'd say, IMO one of the better episodes due to the action.
Mar 19, 2021 9:00 PM

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The war begins and big oof for Kai and Ren lmao. They were no match for Arrow and co.
Mar 20, 2021 3:28 AM
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Well, looks like nothing could stop the turmoil of war between the two largest country. Lutoh's side, Princess Fine, ready to took over alone, what the previous second princess personality had when mocking the Rekka's Emperor; by facing the responsibility leading against the challenge of the Rekka's war invitation. While Rekka Emperor himself, Zetsu, pretty sure excited against whatever Lutoh's got in the other side of the battlefield. The old geezer really loved the battle!

Well, left aside the exciting way of battle between the two sides of the country. I took it in a summary that the first day of the war can be conclude with everyone side got a fair lose: General Kai and Ren lost in the battle against Arrow. But at the same time Prax also lost there, with the only attack the Rekka's Emperor gave to them. A deuce. Interesting that even Zetsu also forfeited the war time for a while with a dinner excuse. Okay, then, the war shall continue to the next week! So, what happened after then, especially when Shu convinced Arrow to be the new ruler of Lingalind. What an ambitious idea of him, even stealing the two bind warper as a precaution way against that unpredictable war. However, Arrow looked pretty much enjoying his path there, gaining more friends will be his only target. So, yeah, everything will be alright, without a doubt....
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Mar 20, 2021 6:48 AM

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Big oofs for Ren and Kai, that's rough buddy. Good episode! The show honestly has some pretty good CG and their 2D animation isn't bad at all either.

Damn, so they gonna make Arrow their king. I am guessing there's going to be one big villain that hasn't been revealed later on where by that time Rekka and Lutoh would have aligned through Arrow. Maybe it's gonna be that Polpo looking ass, I don't know, we'll see. Looking forward to the next episode.
Mar 20, 2021 11:13 AM
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haha zetsu daidan really op, i want to see what will happen if Daidan vs Rudolf...and it's fun seeing Kai get trolled

but as usual, our mc is still good as shounen mc, can give some good word to other character
Mar 20, 2021 4:14 PM
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Ok, so we see Shu helping that Lotuh scientist develop a Birheight that uses liquid nano particle, but hold on, didn't Shu just nicked 2 of them, so what he gonna do with those BirHeights?


Sneaky Shu. Who are they for, we-ell, isn't the only two of the main cast without Briheights Shu and... Bit? Bit???! Haaaa!

Only minus for this episode was that Mad Doctor made appearance but the choir didn't. Sing me a song about nanomachines.
Mar 20, 2021 4:28 PM

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Boy, the first half of this episode was dismal. A full two minutes recapping the previous episode, then the world's stupidest military strategy session, followed by taking a bath. I really cannot understate how stupid that strategy bit was too. "They'll be attacking us where we're strongest." "Right, so it'll be an attack where we're most fortified, prepared, and expecting an attack." "But since nobody would expect them to attack where we're expecting them to attack, it'll be a complete surprise." It feels like I'm taking crazy pills trying to parse that out. And the less said about friendship baths, the better. Similar goes for the fancy boys yelling about how elegantly they'll be fighting on this beautiful midsummer day. I also guess we're just rehabilitating the mad scientist torturer and his pet ranch of terminally ill teenagers.

Which is all weird because the second half of the episode wasn't kind of back to its not-great-but-hitting-the-notes-it-should action bits. I'm likely never going to understand or get on board with the inexplicable raging hard-on that the entire cast has for Shu, but they put a tiny modicum of effort into the action scenes and Arrow himself did a good job dressing down Ren for being a suicidal obsessed lunatic. Not so much with Kai. That side of it probably needed to have Kai actually winning the fight to start out instead of being completely humiliated from the word go. For being the invincible ultimate general or whatever, he sure seems to quite badly get trounced in every one of his fights by being a big, dumb idiot.
Mar 20, 2021 6:23 PM
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Its funny... I have such a complicated relationship with this show. I don't like old anime, yet this retro revisioning/modernisim has all the things that make the old shows have that vibe like the art style and simple story. Its something comfortable about it. The show almost lost me with the whole shounen farm episode and the queen being able to kill her alter-ego with a bind warper even know it was caused by blood. But this episode reminded why I keep coming back every week. Arrow dropping Kai into Shu's blast over and over again is so fun... Shu is That smart character and knows that he can't go head to head with Kai so the fact he is so shameless about using that method is so cool. Shu's former assistant also tried to blow herself up which Back lectured her about then gave her that "we don't discriminate" wallop. This show is much more complex then I give it credit for tho and is so much fun. Im not gonna be super critical after this ep as long as it doesn't try to pull some bullshit
Mar 20, 2021 7:05 PM

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Nice big battle.

Jilted Ren Sin was scary. lol
Mar 21, 2021 3:01 AM
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nice the fights better animated than usual. nanomachines meme lol.
Expect Sola's skills hopefully soon.
wat Shu really planned to kill Kai his bestfrendo? And Ren is really lost.
Mar 21, 2021 10:42 AM

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A very action packed episode. Fine's bloodthirsty other self's insult to the Emperor of Rekka has brought war to Lutoh. The Emperor fights the flight-capable Prax and sends her back to Lutoh as a warning.

Back Arrow in his now-flight-capable Briheight and Shu in the Dreadnought work together to magnificently defeat Rekka's strongest and Shu's former friend, Kai.

Badass moments outside Briheights as Back Arrow takes a stab through his own hand and punches some sense into Ren Sin.

So the Briheights run on "conviction particles" which are actually nanomachines, this is also the same substance flowing under Lingalind that allows ships and other vehicles to levitate.

After we previously saw the wall and the ceiling having defenses aimed inward, this is more affirmation that the world is artificial. Who created Lingalind and what could be going on outside?


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Mar 26, 2021 3:19 PM

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Honestly feel bad for Kai. Betrayed by his close friend, and he gets his ass kicked over and over again.

Is this 2-cour?
Mar 26, 2021 4:05 PM

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Honestly feel bad for Kai. Betrayed by his close friend, and he gets his ass kicked over and over again.

Is this 2-cour?


Yes it is. Next week will be the official start of the second part.
Mar 26, 2021 9:50 PM

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Mormegil said:
Honestly feel bad for Kai. Betrayed by his close friend, and he gets his ass kicked over and over again.

Is this 2-cour?


Yes it is. Next week will be the official start of the second part.


Thanks. Good to know. Looking forward to more.
Apr 23, 2021 5:22 PM

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Once warmed up with the charas and the plot, the action seems more fun as well. The Gurren Lagann comparison is apt.

Emperor pretty OP as expected from the opening. He owned Prax.

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Jul 31, 2021 8:52 AM

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Very action packed episode, I hope Kai doesn't do anything stupid like Ren did here and sacrifice his life before peace comes.

Dec 9, 2021 8:50 AM

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Kai and Ren, utterly defeated. lol
That was a blast!

Back Arrow scolding Ren, that was epic.
Another moral lesson from Back Arrow.
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