Why Angelica’s logic is stupid

Firehazard105 said:
Angelica calls Shirou a faker multiple times throughout this movie. However, isn’t she just using stolen power from Gilgamesh? At least Shirou is fighting using his own abilities. How she has the gall to fight using Gilgamesh’s power and call Shirou a faker is beyond me. Anyone else think that was really dumb? Or am I forgetting something that will make me look like an idiot in retrospect?

dierubikdie said:

Gilgamesh's power (and by extension, Angelica's) comes from using the originals of countless Noble Phantasms, while Shirou's Projection Magic (which he uses to create his swords) creates copies of weapons.

From Angelica's point of view, Shirou's copies are fakes, which she sees as inferior to her originals.

That's what I gathered, anyway. It's similar to the conflict between Shirou and Gilgamesh himself near the end of UBW (Gilgamesh throwing NP's at Shirou, and getting angry about Shirou making "copies"), so I thought it was meant to mirror that, in a way.

Firehazard105 said:
At least Shirou is fighting using his own abilities.

Firehazard105 said:


Right, GILGAMESH’s power is the original noble phantasms. She isn’t Gilgamesh, she’s just as much of a fake as Shirou is for stealing power from another and acting all high and mighty as if that power is hers. She doesn’t have the right to be arrogant like Gilgamesh. Those are just my thoughts though