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Sep 3, 2020 6:20 AM
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I feel like some of you may have seen that awful thread on GOHS saying how it was anime of the year before anything else had aired. But now, as we're coming towards the final few weeks of the summer season of anime, what do you all think?
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Sep 3, 2020 6:23 AM
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after watching 3 eps I dropped it. Garbo anime. I was hoping it would at least be fun but it's just Neon Genesis On Titan Online. Also I hate the gears. They look like something off Nick Jr
Sep 3, 2020 7:01 AM
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AOTS for me, easily.

The plot is interesting, the characters and their relashionship is awesome, and the animation is solid. Also, it's so cool to have this older, confident badass as a main character sometimes. I have nothing against teenage MCs if they're interesting enough, but I'm kinda tired of this trope at this point, so someone like Kabu as a main character is... refreshing. I love the cyborg part of the show too, it's not what I expected at the beginning (no one did, I guess) but it turned out to be an awesome and creative concept, for me at least. I'm loving this show so far.
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Sep 3, 2020 7:12 AM
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Perhaps. It's great and fun to get through regardless.
Sep 3, 2020 7:12 AM
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I'm not watching much else but only this and Re:Zero S2 come close to taking AoTS. Not a strong season so it doesn't mean much anyway. I will say it's in my top 5 of this year so far though.

The anime community doesn't really make sense. People claim to want original anime but when episode 2 aired so many people were disappointed by the direction the story chose to take. Most just want clones of things they've already seen or something. Well, I say most but I just speak of the vocal contrarians, majority of viewers can probably appreciate it in some way. It's just this time, the contrarians really confuse me with what they say.

Salty-GB said:
but it's just Neon Genesis On Titan Online.

What do you mean? Because it's post-apocalyptic, has ''humanity vs monsters'' and ''takes place in a game-like world''? Lol 2020 making people crazy it seems.
Sep 3, 2020 7:12 AM
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No. Fuck that.

I would say great Pretender but it technically aired in Spring?

I would ALSO say Appare-Ranman! but it first aired last season and continued this season.

So yeah, #VoteObakeZukanBestAnimeOfTheYear2020
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Sep 3, 2020 7:59 AM
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It's either this or Misfit of Demon King Academy for me.
Sep 3, 2020 8:01 AM
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nah, it's trash and not the fun kind.
Sep 3, 2020 8:02 AM
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Since Great Pretender started in Spring (thanks to Netflix Japan), yes. Its worthy of AOTS unless they mess up the ending.
Sep 3, 2020 10:26 AM
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Well, there isn't any other anime that I really like from the season. There's Fugou Keiji, which is my favorite anime of the season, even though it actually started in spring. Also, just like a lot of people here, I also thought Pretender was going to be the best of the season, but then I hated Ep5 so much that I don't care about it anymore.
Sep 3, 2020 10:51 AM

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It depends

If my lesbian ship Natsume and her wife Fei will kiss! So I can yell,,,,YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!... Then I can consider it as the best anime this season .My ship is still intact and god I am hopping for that kiss


Awwwwwww they are so cute together..Little lesbian lovebirds!




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Sep 3, 2020 12:20 PM

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I say yes,
For this season i am watching gibiate,goh,DD and rental Gf
(And i am not including Great pretender)

And if were talking about "worthy"(and not "it is") best summer 2020 anime than it is worthy
It's a fine decent anime.
Sep 3, 2020 6:26 PM

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Excluding sequels, yeah it might as well be. There is not a lot of competitor.
Sep 3, 2020 7:42 PM

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Kaasfondue said:
I'm not watching much else but only this and Re:Zero S2 come close to taking AoTS. Not a strong season so it doesn't mean much anyway. I will say it's in my top 5 of this year so far though.

The anime community doesn't really make sense. People claim to want original anime but when episode 2 aired so many people were disappointed by the direction the story chose to take. Most just want clones of things they've already seen or something. Well, I say most but I just speak of the vocal contrarians, majority of viewers can probably appreciate it in some way. It's just this time, the contrarians really confuse me with what they say.

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but it's just Neon Genesis On Titan Online.

What do you mean? Because it's post-apocalyptic, has ''humanity vs monsters'' and ''takes place in a game-like world''? Lol 2020 making people crazy it seems.


Because it literally looks like a knock-off Trigger show trying to do Attack on Titan. The visual and story telling similarities are super try-hard. Nothing wrong with taking inspiration but this is just the "can I copy your homework" of anime.
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Salty-GB said:
Nothing wrong with taking inspiration but this is just the "can I copy your homework" of anime.

Except that SnK is a painfully mediocre, forgettable show, while Deca-Dence is a noteworthy one.
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Salty-GB said:

Because it literally looks like a knock-off Trigger show trying to do Attack on Titan. The visual and story telling similarities are super try-hard. Nothing wrong with taking inspiration but this is just the "can I copy your homework" of anime.


It's not a knock off and neither is it trying to be lol but ok, you can form your own opinions, but as someone who's watched more than just 3 episodes, I find it hard to imagine that anyone would think it's an AoT copy. (hell even after 3 episodes, I could tell it wasn't like AoT lmao). If you do feel like it(probably not), try giving it a chance when it's finished airing and see if your opinion changes. If it doesn't, that's fine.
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I would say, yes. Even more so, given it is an original anime series.

It is harder for an original anime to be good, but it is easier for an anime adaptation based in a light novel or manga to be good given they already passed the popularity filter test to become adapted in the first place.
Sep 4, 2020 12:34 AM
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Hell yeah. Why not?
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spectrojan said:
Salty-GB said:

Because it literally looks like a knock-off Trigger show trying to do Attack on Titan. The visual and story telling similarities are super try-hard. Nothing wrong with taking inspiration but this is just the "can I copy your homework" of anime.


It's not a knock off and neither is it trying to be lol but ok, you can form your own opinions, but as someone who's watched more than just 3 episodes, I find it hard to imagine that anyone would think it's an AoT copy. (hell even after 3 episodes, I could tell it wasn't like AoT lmao). If you do feel like it(probably not), try giving it a chance when it's finished airing and see if your opinion changes. If it doesn't, that's fine.


It leans more on the TTGL/Kill La Kill/Evangelion/Promare side and really only takes "fluid flying combat with the aid of a mechanism against big monsta" from AoT.

It feels like if Trigger were given the rough outline for AoT and worked on it for like a month before throwing it out and Nut pulled it out of their garbage.

I probs won't come back to it. If the gears weren't so jarringly different from the other characters and if Natsume was even the slightest bit interesting I probably could have stuck it out and would have likely given it a 5 depending on the ending. Maybe ditching the "game but irl" aspect and just having the gears be like, aliens or something would have bumped it up to a 6. As it stands it just isn't my thing.
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So yeah, #VoteObakeZukanBestAnimeOfTheYear2020

I almost choking when read this. But, fuck, its too funny. Thanks for the joke, mate XD
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Sep 4, 2020 12:39 AM

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Kaasfondue said:
The anime community doesn't really make sense. People claim to want original anime but when episode 2 aired so many people were disappointed by the direction the story chose to take. Most just want clones of things they've already seen or something.

This.
The absolute state of the anime community.
Sep 4, 2020 1:51 AM

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Junchi said:
Salty-GB said:
Nothing wrong with taking inspiration but this is just the "can I copy your homework" of anime.

Except that SnK is a painfully mediocre, forgettable show, while Deca-Dence is a noteworthy one.


If that's how you choose to see it, no beef my guy. I also think AoT is painfully mediocre but my opinion on Deca-Dence isn't much higher.
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Well, since im saving Re zero and great pretender tilll theire over its hard to say, but if you bracket out those to its definetly the highlight of this season. Wonder what the score would be without the 30% that dont get the setting after a full episode of infodump or are pissed beacuse its /it is not AoT Clone... This is people critsizing shield hero all over again, just less politics this time xD Ah well, at least Its funny...

After having caught up with more stuff, I can say great Pretender was waay better, although i still very much enjoyed Deca dence.
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i dont think this is a Trigger show at all lol especially if you meant Imaishi anime since obviously its lacking that wacky animation and hyper energetic dialogues and pacing of the story also ecchi scenes since Imaishi is a damn pervert like me

there is nothing original in this show but as usual execution is what matters and this one delivered imo
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badabass said:
woopWOOOP said:

So yeah, #VoteObakeZukanBestAnimeOfTheYear2020

I almost choking when read this. But, fuck, its too funny. Thanks for the joke, mate XD

No problem dude lol

but what if I told you I wasn't joking?
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Sep 4, 2020 7:27 AM

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Yes. Absolutely phenomenal stuff.
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i dropped it cause it has bad storytelling after watching episode 1 to watching the intro to episode 2. not good story description placement.
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Salty-GB said:
Kaasfondue said:
I'm not watching much else but only this and Re:Zero S2 come close to taking AoTS. Not a strong season so it doesn't mean much anyway. I will say it's in my top 5 of this year so far though.

The anime community doesn't really make sense. People claim to want original anime but when episode 2 aired so many people were disappointed by the direction the story chose to take. Most just want clones of things they've already seen or something. Well, I say most but I just speak of the vocal contrarians, majority of viewers can probably appreciate it in some way. It's just this time, the contrarians really confuse me with what they say.


What do you mean? Because it's post-apocalyptic, has ''humanity vs monsters'' and ''takes place in a game-like world''? Lol 2020 making people crazy it seems.


Because it literally looks like a knock-off Trigger show trying to do Attack on Titan. The visual and story telling similarities are super try-hard. Nothing wrong with taking inspiration but this is just the "can I copy your homework" of anime.

Yeah ok, I can tell you're just hating or something after reading this and your other responses in the thread. You're not even making any attempts to justify your claims. Like at least explain a bit more how it's copying all these anime. I don't understand in what way it feels like both Gainax and Trigger works all together.

I'm not trying to be rude or aggressive btw, I just don't think having similar action scenes is enough to claim that the story is conceptually too similar as well. Like you're not really doing a good job at explaining why you're accusing it of being a copy of all those things imo. You're just saying it ''feels like all those other anime''.

Seems more like you just don't care and don't care to care, lol.
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Kaasfondue said:
Salty-GB said:


Because it literally looks like a knock-off Trigger show trying to do Attack on Titan. The visual and story telling similarities are super try-hard. Nothing wrong with taking inspiration but this is just the "can I copy your homework" of anime.

Yeah ok, I can tell you're just hating or something after reading this and your other responses in the thread. You're not even making any attempts to justify your claims. Like at least explain a bit more how it's copying all these anime. I don't understand in what way it feels like both Gainax and Trigger works all together.

I'm not trying to be rude or aggressive btw, I just don't think having similar action scenes is enough to claim that the story is conceptually too similar as well. Like you're not really doing a good job at explaining why you're accusing it of being a copy of all those things imo. You're just saying it ''feels like all those other anime''.

Seems more like you just don't care and don't care to care, lol.


It's not really something I can just show screencaps for and be like "look! see! Look at the that!". It's the framing, the palette, the flex and flow of the animation, the chunky but detailed mechanical objects, the shading and lighting, the way things are paced (by which I mean the time allocated to certain actions, not the plot plodding along), the scripting and expressions, character design elements, auditory quirks (not really the soundtrack though oddly enough). I'm not really sure how I could represent most of that in a digestible way without going through a ton of effort and even then I dunno if it would be worth all that work just to prove a point. For the most part it's a good dupe. I don't think having Trigger put out their version would have made the show better if that makes sense? Like it's not bad BECAUSE it feels like a Trigger show. It's just not a very good show.

I also am not trying to be rude or aggressive, I'm just bad at articulating what I mean. I did legitimately go in thinking I would like the show enough to finish it and even give it a decent rating.
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i dropped it cause it has bad storytelling after watching episode 1 to watching the intro to episode 2. not good story description placement.
Bad storytelling? Really? i know making a big twist through a comercial inst exacly amazing storytelling but still.
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It's not really something I can just show screencaps for and be like "look! see! Look at the that!". It's the framing, the palette, the flex and flow of the animation, the chunky but detailed mechanical objects, the shading and lighting, the way things are paced (by which I mean the time allocated to certain actions, not the plot plodding along), the scripting and expressions, character design elements, auditory quirks (not really the soundtrack though oddly enough).
I can see many things that are indeed trigger like, for example the simple character designs are somewhat similar, the pallete too, the character expressions are the "fun and comedic" type that trigger loves so yea thats also very similar, what i dont agree on is being similar is the lighting, that has nothing to do with trigger as the photography is much stronger here than most trigger shows, and the flow of animation which also has nothing to do with trigger because the timing are completely diferent, trigger has this choopy but very good timing and flow to their animation (not that there arent more fluid animators at trigger like yoh yoshinari but you get my point) and deca-dence has a far cleaner and fluid type of animation (fun fact alot of the action scenes are actually animated by foreign animators), they both have great but different animation styles. It kinda makes me mad that people say the script is similar to trigger shows, because although i actually somewhat agree on it, it just makes me think that everytime someone sees a show with an unique setting they just think "OH LOOK ITS TRIGGER".
And about the aot comparison, i think its somewhat right and somewhat wrong, the fact that deca-dence has air battles probably didnt come from attack on titan but from the saga of tanya the evil as that was also done by nut. I do think that the giant monsters part did come from aot as the director for deca-dence work on some episodes in attack on titan and the series composition was script writter for alot of aot episodes actually being the main series composition in season 4.
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Bad storytelling? Really? i know making a big twist through a comercial inst exacly amazing storytelling but still.

Well, that was kinda the point. Episode 2 begins with a sad and somber scene where humans have to bury their friends and beloved family members, and then we immediately jump to this happy "game commercial" scene. It's supposed to show the differences of the humans' and cyborgs' worlds - for humans everything is a matter of life and death, real suffering and saying goodbye to their loved ones, meanwhile for cyborgs it's just a fun game. In my opinion it's not a bad storytelling, on the contrary, I would say it is amazing in its own way. Same goes with the different artstyle. All the distinct and big differences between these two worlds are clearly intentional. I'm not saying that everyone has to like and appreciate these concepts, but it doesn't mean it's a bad storytelling.
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Bad storytelling? Really? i know making a big twist through a comercial inst exacly amazing storytelling but still.

Well, that was kinda the point. Episode 2 begins with a sad and somber scene where humans have to bury their friends and beloved family members, and then we immediately jump to this happy "game commercial" scene. It's supposed to show the differences of the humans' and cyborgs' worlds - for humans everything is a matter of life and death, real suffering and saying goodbye to their loved ones, meanwhile for cyborgs it's just a fun game. In my opinion it's not a bad storytelling, on the contrary, I would say it is amazing in its own way. Same goes with the different artstyle. All the distinct and big differences between these two worlds are clearly intentional. I'm not saying that everyone has to like and appreciate these concepts, but it doesn't mean it's a bad storytelling.
Fair enough, but my problem was that it seemed more of a way to explain things in very fast way,for me it was a strange way of doing an exposition dump. I do love the cyborg world tho, like you said it shows two extremely different worlds making the life of tankers even more fucked up, and the overall style of the cyborgs is honestly not that bad (It was also designed by the flip flappers director which says alot)
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spyro115 said:
i dropped it cause it has bad storytelling after watching episode 1 to watching the intro to episode 2. not good story description placement.
Bad storytelling? Really? i know making a big twist through a comercial inst exacly amazing storytelling but still.
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It's not really something I can just show screencaps for and be like "look! see! Look at the that!". It's the framing, the palette, the flex and flow of the animation, the chunky but detailed mechanical objects, the shading and lighting, the way things are paced (by which I mean the time allocated to certain actions, not the plot plodding along), the scripting and expressions, character design elements, auditory quirks (not really the soundtrack though oddly enough).
I can see many things that are indeed trigger like, for example the simple character designs are somewhat similar, the pallete too, the character expressions are the "fun and comedic" type that trigger loves so yea thats also very similar, what i dont agree on is being similar is the lighting, that has nothing to do with trigger as the photography is much stronger here than most trigger shows, and the flow of animation which also has nothing to do with trigger because the timing are completely diferent, trigger has this choopy but very good timing and flow to their animation (not that there arent more fluid animators at trigger like yoh yoshinari but you get my point) and deca-dence has a far cleaner and fluid type of animation (fun fact alot of the action scenes are actually animated by foreign animators), they both have great but different animation styles. It kinda makes me mad that people say the script is similar to trigger shows, because although i actually somewhat agree on it, it just makes me think that everytime someone sees a show with an unique setting they just think "OH LOOK ITS TRIGGER".
And about the aot comparison, i think its somewhat right and somewhat wrong, the fact that deca-dence has air battles probably didnt come from attack on titan but from the saga of tanya the evil as that was also done by nut. I do think that the giant monsters part did come from aot as the director for deca-dence work on some episodes in attack on titan and the series composition was script writter for alot of aot episodes actually being the main series composition in season 4.


I haven't seen Tanya but that would make a lot of sense. Good call!

As for the points we don't agree on, I guess we're just seeing different things and will have to agree to disagree. I think the points you make are super clear but I just can't see it your way.

It's been fun discussing with you! At least I got a positive experience out of Deca-Dence even if it was outside of the show itself haha
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I think it's tied. GoH is pretty awesome as well
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Nah, it's the same trash as the whole Summer 2020 season.

Great Pretender (technically Spring 2020, but it started in June, so who cares) is AOTS for me without any competition.
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ame-furi said:
VP2003boi said:
Bad storytelling? Really? i know making a big twist through a comercial inst exacly amazing storytelling but still.

Well, that was kinda the point. Episode 2 begins with a sad and somber scene where humans have to bury their friends and beloved family members, and then we immediately jump to this happy "game commercial" scene. It's supposed to show the differences of the humans' and cyborgs' worlds - for humans everything is a matter of life and death, real suffering and saying goodbye to their loved ones, meanwhile for cyborgs it's just a fun game. In my opinion it's not a bad storytelling, on the contrary, I would say it is amazing in its own way. Same goes with the different artstyle. All the distinct and big differences between these two worlds are clearly intentional. I'm not saying that everyone has to like and appreciate these concepts, but it doesn't mean it's a bad storytelling.
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spyro115 said:
i dropped it cause it has bad storytelling after watching episode 1 to watching the intro to episode 2. not good story description placement.
Bad storytelling? Really? i know making a big twist through a comercial inst exacly amazing storytelling but still.
Salty-GB said:

It's not really something I can just show screencaps for and be like "look! see! Look at the that!". It's the framing, the palette, the flex and flow of the animation, the chunky but detailed mechanical objects, the shading and lighting, the way things are paced (by which I mean the time allocated to certain actions, not the plot plodding along), the scripting and expressions, character design elements, auditory quirks (not really the soundtrack though oddly enough).
I can see many things that are indeed trigger like, for example the simple character designs are somewhat similar, the pallete too, the character expressions are the "fun and comedic" type that trigger loves so yea thats also very similar, what i dont agree on is being similar is the lighting, that has nothing to do with trigger as the photography is much stronger here than most trigger shows, and the flow of animation which also has nothing to do with trigger because the timing are completely diferent, trigger has this choopy but very good timing and flow to their animation (not that there arent more fluid animators at trigger like yoh yoshinari but you get my point) and deca-dence has a far cleaner and fluid type of animation (fun fact alot of the action scenes are actually animated by foreign animators), they both have great but different animation styles. It kinda makes me mad that people say the script is similar to trigger shows, because although i actually somewhat agree on it, it just makes me think that everytime someone sees a show with an unique setting they just think "OH LOOK ITS TRIGGER".
And about the aot comparison, i think its somewhat right and somewhat wrong, the fact that deca-dence has air battles probably didnt come from attack on titan but from the saga of tanya the evil as that was also done by nut. I do think that the giant monsters part did come from aot as the director for deca-dence work on some episodes in attack on titan and the series composition was script writter for alot of aot episodes actually being the main series composition in season 4.
it's bad storytelling because of story description placement, the concept of showing us something we thought was tense and realistic to something jolly and fake thats a bad concept for a story, at least for deca dence that is.
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Yes. Of course. And the best thing is that manga readers can't spoil anything like they spoil every single big manga property. We need more original anime.
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Talking about new shows only, I'd say Deca-Dence has given me the best plot, but Kanokari is the one I've enjoyed the most
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Aside from the twist on episode 2 which caught me off guard. I found the show to be very predictable, but yeah compared to the show I've seen this season, this may be the winner.
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Originality is a hard thing to make these days. It's becoming more of a rarity to come up with something completely new. However If someone can take what's already done and execute it in such a way that it feels fresh and new, then I say they've succeeded.

Take Megalo Box for instance. It's not original but imo it's execution is so well done that it makes for an exciting experience and I don't even like boxing.
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It's good but that's all

It can't even compare to Great Preteder for the battle of the best original anime this season
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One of the worst anime of the year, it does not reach the feet of Rezero and Great Pretender.
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One of the worst anime of the year, it does not reach the feet of Rezero and Great Pretender.
You've seen three episodes.
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Excluding sequels, yeah it might as well be. There is not a lot of competitor.


I can't believe I've actually said this. No, this is by far the worst anime of the entire year.
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Excluding sequels, yeah it might as well be. There is not a lot of competitor.


I can't believe I've actually said this. No, this is by far the worst anime of the entire year.

Lmao what changed your mind?
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I can't believe I've actually said this. No, this is by far the worst anime of the entire year.

Lmao what changed your mind?


Oh. I just watched the anime.
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ag_ said:

Lmao what changed your mind?


Oh. I just watched the anime.

Oh right, well at least you know now lmao.
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