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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Oh boy, I knew something would be wrong from the start when you see a woman and a kid driving at night in the dark. But hey, it's the kid that's actually had the problem. |
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| Now that was a scary episode, if you are a parent. |
| This was creepy, I liked it. Poor kid, nobody picked her up. |
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| Best episode of the series so far. |
| 4/5 Good, but... too much strange ¬_¬ |
"No matter where you go, everyone's connected." Iwakura, Lain. |
| It was just creepy because of the background. A little confused. |
| I liked what it was going for, but not actually sure it nailed it. The thing that bothers me the most is Michiko's death. I'd like to say that's just the mother's thoughts on the matter. Like her spirit or whatever, was imagining the "what if she didn't die" and that with Michiko as she starts to remember her horrible thoughts of what happened as a result of her absence took over. It makes sense that she'd think Michiko would've died in that instance, but in reality, why the hell would the Day Care just leave a child to die? They care enough to call way past their business hours, you're telling me they're just going to say "screw it" and leave the girl out in the run in the hopes that the parent arrives? I just don't buy that and unfortunately, the episode pretty much states that's what happens. The episode ended with the mother's sand head sliding off the sand body, as witnessed by the boy, but next to that body is Michiko's sand body without the sand head. And when she disappeared in the car, she did it by having her body turn to sand with the head sliding off the body. So clearly the episode is signaling her death. Another problem is that it's a bit tough to grasp the actually context of what's happening. My personal assumption isn't that there's some evil sand spirit, but that it was perhaps a meeting of two spirits post-death. Because the mother was clearly devoted to getting Michiko being her dying breath, whereas Michiko was clearly hoping to get picked up, since she was building her family (which based on the sand, is just her and her mother [which makes sense]). So like, I'm guessing that was the case, it was just witnessing the two spirits try and continue in like the afterlife or something, before before realize their death. Though Michiko knowing that the mother dies, and in detail, makes no sense under that theory, but would under the mother only theory which can be disapproved easily so again, not sure how this is suppose to be contextualized. So this doesn't work as well for me as say, episode 3. Watching it I wasn't able to emotionally connect with it really because of the aforementioned issues but I still really appreciate this season attempts at telling different short stories, ones with more emotionally leanings. I also think the rain made it slide off was a pretty good closing line, because it kinda obfuscates the supernatural element, like the car accident clearly happened because of the rain and so that lines ties into it, cause the rain made the car have issues and hit the mother. So that final line could be interpreted as a way for the episode to discount the supernatural leanings entirely, and make the horror story be about a common occurrence that lead to death, which in a way, is a lot more chilling since it's a lot more tangible. The pile themselves just serve as a metaphor in this instance, and I think it works well in that case. I mean, it makes sense after all, the first and last shots of this episode is on the rain, and that's for a reason. On that note, the rain is like a connector from the sky to the ground, from heaven to earth, between the living and the dead. Or at least I can follow that logic train in order to further justify my personal reading of the situation with the two ghosts interacting. It's not something I think the episode itself particularly leans. Finally, I really liked the music in here. Overall, I wish it was executed a little more clearer because I really do like the premise but even with my big gripes, I do feel this is one of the stronger entries. These four minutes certainly got a lot of text out of me. |
Terrestrious said: Another problem is that it's a bit tough to grasp the actually context of what's happening. My personal assumption isn't that there's some evil sand spirit, but that it was perhaps a meeting of two spirits post-death. Because the mother was clearly devoted to getting Michiko being her dying breath, whereas Michiko was clearly hoping to get picked up, since she was building her family (which based on the sand, is just her and her mother [which makes sense]). So like, I'm guessing that was the case, it was just witnessing the two spirits try and continue in like the afterlife or something, before before realize their death. Though Michiko knowing that the mother dies, and in detail, makes no sense under that theory, but would under the mother only theory which can be disapproved easily so again, not sure how this is suppose to be contextualized. It was more symbolic than anything. The ghost of mother finally "picked up" her child but both of them were ghosts. They have never met in human world and the mother probably felt big remorse while dying. Therefore is doing this every day without realizing that she is doing it again and again. The ghost of kid knows but maybe is not fully aware of the situation(as the kid never knew why this happened). Pure symbolism of playing the same scenario in your head with a futile attempt at changing the unavoidable. It is uncertain if the girl died. Maybe she is alive and thats why she is turning sand? And her mother ghost makes sand figure because of it? happybivouac said: Best episode of the series so far. Easily TOP 3 so far. Damn good. |
tearofmankind said: It was more symbolic than anything. The ghost of mother finally "picked up" her child but both of them were ghosts. They have never met in human world and the mother probably felt big remorse while dying. Therefore is doing this every day without realizing that she is doing it again and again. The ghost of kid knows but maybe is not fully aware of the situation(as the kid never knew why this happened). Pure symbolism of playing the same scenario in your head with a futile attempt at changing the unavoidable. It is uncertain if the girl died. Maybe she is alive and thats why she is turning sand? And her mother ghost makes sand figure because of it? Oh, so something kind of like a Death Echo from Supernatural, looping through a scenario over and over again. That makes sense, and I do think she's dead for the aforementioned sand stuff but I'll have to watch it again I guess since it's been several months but I could see the reading of this all being some reflection of the mother's turmoil over leaving her kid working out. Again, regardless, I just want to say this was only four minutes and yet I feel there's a lot of discussion coming up from this, I love that. Only season of Yami Shibai to accomplish that, a few times actually. |
| don't think I understand how the child died though.... |
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| Such a tragic and emotional episode. This season so much better than then previous ones. |
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| Oh man, that was sad... The mom was still dedicated to picking up her daughter I wonder how the kid died though... She was still under the daycare workers' care right? Did they just leave her in the playground or smth? Great episode. Made me hella sad though ngl |
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