| The art is lazily drawn, lack of detail, lazy backgrounds, unimpressive effects and lack of motion. It looks like a badly drawn flash animation back when flash was still owned by Macromedia. |
yvancJul 22, 2017 9:24 PM
| I didn't really have much of an issue with the art style, it looked different and it was one of the things that initially had me intrigued when seeing the PVs, however the animation really sucked, the fight scenes were slow, dull and frustrating to watch. The sound and ED were nice though, so thats a thing. |
| Im cool with the comicbook artsyle but the animation is not very smooth. |
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| Studio Deen should be praised for making another shitty animated show that is actually worse than whatever Toei produces. A new era has begun. |
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| im fine with the animation since its trying to copy the american comic book look anyway what i do not like is the very boring and slow story telling/pacing so thats why i dropped it the director of this show is known for his boring and slow story telling/pacing too anyway with the likes of Mushishi and Aku no Hana so i should have expected that |
Symphyon said: Elegade said: Studio Deen should be praised for making another shitty animated show that is actually worse than whatever Toei produces. A new era has begun. >Another shitty animated show I'm sorry if this comes off as, rather off but... don't know, KonoSuba and other shows they made were good. And for fucks sake people blaming DEEN for everything just like with most studios is rather absurd... I am kind of getting tired of it but I'd digress. I misworded my first point, Deen making another show that has shit animation is what I meant, and Deen deserves the shit they've been getting since they can't seem to improve their visuals. The best looking show I've seen them make is Sakura Trick, but even that is sub-par. |
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| @Symphyon Aku no Hana has a different animation style called rotoscoping (basically tracing/drawing over a live action footage or 3DCG but in this case they draw over live actors movements), this director likes to make unique animation style thats for sure but he should work on his story pacing lol |
| i personally dont like how they punch, it feels week and boring. |
j0x said: im fine with the animation since its trying to copy the american comic book look anyway what i do not like is the very boring and slow story telling/pacing so thats why i dropped it the director of this show is known for his boring and slow story telling/pacing too anyway with the likes of Mushishi and Aku no Hana so i should have expected that the director isn't known for being boring (that's just your personal take on it) nor is he known for slow storytelling. What he's known for is being an auteur who almost exclusively does adaptations and does them incredibly well. He's a master stylist and once again with this he's made something stylistically unique. Whether or not the visuals are good is a matter of taste - I happen to like them. There are some really amazing shots. The animation is pretty clunky for sure but I didn't find it too offputting. I don't really see how the pacing is slow. It's not hyperkinetic craziness like Trigger's stuff, but that's a good thing... this is doing its own thing. Oh and the director made Detroit Metal City, one of the most frenetic shows ever made. So there. |
| Simple designs can, and do work if there's enough movement and action. Slow pacing can, and does work if there's enough details to appreciate in character's expressions and backgrounds. This show is the worst of both worlds. It feels like it wastes my time. It feels like I was forced to watch a series of incredibly boring static pictures. |
jin_raito said: watch it at 2x speed, framerate/animation became smooth, it's finally watchable. And you won't miss any important lines because none are. |
| Possibly the worst thing I have tried to watch in modern times and I got through several episodes of Gundam Reconshit and all of Dragonlance. |
| Maybe the animation isn't that good but I don't want to judge the whole Anime just because of how it looks. The artstyle looks unique and I like unique artstyles. |
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| You little kids have never seen cel shading or what ? This is way better than those crappy flat 3DCG with drooling polygons we've been served recently. |
| You mean it has worse animation than Hand Shakers, Super Kid, and Chaos Dragon?! |
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CodeBlazeFate said: the animation of hand shaker is good lol the camera movement isn't thoYou mean it has worse animation than Hand Shakers, Super Kid, and Chaos Dragon?! |
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kikyo1hinamora said: The animation is terrible, especially in fight scenes. The characters constantly skip frames, almost every episode has a decent amount of reused animation (which is unacceptable by today's standards), the frame rate often dips to absurdly low degrees, and the characters don't even feel like they have contact with anything other than each other. Plus, the CGI is abysmal. The character art looks nice, but the actual animation is terrible.CodeBlazeFate said: the animation of hand shaker is good lol the camera movement isn't thoYou mean it has worse animation than Hand Shakers, Super Kid, and Chaos Dragon?! |
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| I just wish people would learn what they should actually be criticizing. The actual animation quality was good. The art direction is fairly good. The problem is the scenes themselves are drawn out painfully, along with a few very questionable decisions or perhaps lazily done scenes of minor characters with very little detail. Like someone else said already, if you watch it at 2x, the flow is a lot better. This attests to that the actual final animation is of good quality, but for some reason they decided they had to draw it out, I guess to pad 22 minutes or something. Does that make it acceptable? That's up to you. Second of all, Stan Lee isn't an animation studio, chill guys. He is a collaborator, he didn't call all the shots regarding the animation. |
| I like the style even if the animation could have been more fluid. But I've seen worse. Actually that isn't close to the worst. |
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private_eye said: If you're still left wondering why the speed has caused such a big difference in your perception, then it might do some good to listen to the lead animator for Skullgirls talk about 2D animation and the perception of it.Srsly, i don't mind the artstyle(actually like it even though some scenes looks dull) but punching and animation is rly lacking, but now when i played it 2x the speed everything looks natural and there is weight to the punches, so weird. If they had cut the run time and kept animation fluid as it is at 2x i think it would be tolerable to watch. Although it's centered around video games, it still applies to any sort of 2D animation. |
| LMAO... There is a difference between shit animation and art style! Worst animation is when you choose a type of animation but fail on apllying it to the show. Art style refers to the choosen art to your anime adaptation! And the art choosen for this anime is great for where I see it. Except from the fight scenes where the fight is not that big of a deal, the rest is just great LMAO... This was a co-production with Stan Lee... Of course it would have a cartoonish style! You shuld do your homework before watch any anime! |
azertz99Jul 23, 2017 5:13 PM
azertyY said: LMAO... There is a difference between shit animation and art style! Worst animation is when you choose a type of animation but fail on apllying it to the show. Art style refers to the choosen art to your anime adaptation! And the art choosen for this anime is great for where I see it. Except from the fight scenes where the fight is not that big of a deal, the rest is just great LMAO... This was a co-production with Stan Lee... Of course it would have a cartoonish style! You shuld do your homework before watch any anime! Dude, they will NEVER understand what you're saying haha even tho it should be common sense. |
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| Studio Derp strikes again. Even 1990's spiderman looked better that this shit. I mean I love Konosuba but lets not pretend the animation was good. Deen do their reputation no help |
art style is part of animation dude since animation is moving art/drawings anyway, the less hard to draw something the better the movement should be but in this case its not lol still my only complain is how boring and slow pace the story telling is |
| All this hate for DEEN. I'm ashamed, MAL. |
| The problem is the show is being done by a Japanese studio trying to imitate an American comic book art style but still keeping all the bad habits associated with Anime; too many still frames, no actual life drawing input, etc. Huge lack of oversight either from Stan Lee's side or from oversees for letting Studio Deen handle this project. I mean common, Studio Deen? Might as well flip a coin. |
| Aku no Hana all over again. All anime should look generic it seems. |
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| I see some people just can't get it through their heads there's this thing called intentional stylizing. Every time a show uses animation different from the generic moeblob style we see these kinds of threads... Last time it was for Mob Psycho 100, I think? Well, I guess some people just never want to learn. |
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LordLagann said: The problem is the show is being done by a Japanese studio trying to imitate an American comic book art style but still keeping all the bad habits associated with Anime; too many still frames, no actual life drawing input, etc. I have read 60s and 70s US superheroes publications and most of them had very little dynamism, despite having lots of action scenes. This lack of movement sounds actually like a good imitation. @LordLagann Understood. |
Rei_IIIAug 7, 2017 11:29 AM
Rei366 said: LordLagann said: The problem is the show is being done by a Japanese studio trying to imitate an American comic book art style but still keeping all the bad habits associated with Anime; too many still frames, no actual life drawing input, etc. I have read 60s and 70s US superheroes publications and most of them had very little dynamism, despite having lots of action scenes. This lack of movement sounds actually like a good imitation. Except we're not talking about still images in a comic book and for the sake of argument even if we were it's still an animated television series. Unless you purposely were trying to make look like a motion graphic novel you need to take liberties into adapting it for the sake of the show. There are plenty of adaptions, both comics and manga, that make a point to go above and beyond whats written and show on the source material simply because it's whats needed to make a good adaption. Honestly I'm not sure where it went wrong here. Maybe it's Studio Deen for being so bureaucratic when it comes to management, maybe it's the association with Marvel and their style lack luster cartoon series, or Stan Lee simply biting off more than he can chew at his age. At any rate something is wrong and it can be seen clear as day. |
| Isn't the best animation but isn't the worst. For example, episode 3 was developed in a right way and was smooth. It improved the speed from the last two episodes. They are trying to mix old comic ideas and old comic animation with a palette from that era, for the smooth part, the comics (50 - 80s) had gaps and pauses (similar to what we are seeing). New comics, 90 - 2010 changed that idea and are more smooth. If the production were that BAD, ¿do you think that Stan Lee will give his voice for the advance titles or be a part of the production? Also, he is one of the creators. Finally, if you can't stand the animation is better to stop watching the show. We can't compare this animation with any other because the technique used is very different (American Comic in Motion), and honestly, they are doing it in acceptable way. |
Who are you quoting? |
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Crashmatt said: I mean I love Konosuba but lets not pretend the animation was good No one's pretending, it's called having a different taste. Konosuba's animation is supposed to be funny and derpy and it succeeds in that. It fits well for such a silly and wacky a show. I mean, it literally has breasts flapping around all over the place. Deen did Rakugo Shinjuu; I think that's a good reminder that studio doesn't automatically determine quality. |
LeeTailorAug 9, 2017 8:45 PM
ZetaZaku said: Aku no Hana all over again. All anime should look generic it seems. Seems that way, I just wonder how the fuck they could just look at these anime and then go "this is fine". The Reflection animation doesn't even look like the final product they put out lol |
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