| Some of you might be confuse of sudden change of expression in the episode 12. I won't explain in too detailed, but I will write some "points" & "details" for you to understand more, everything from novel itself. 1) The fight between Nidaime and Akadama-sensei happened at least 100 years ago. As you can see in episode flashback the reason of fight was all because of one girl. Nidaime lost and left to other country. 2) Suprisingly, Benten looked exactly like the girl(Nidaime's 1st love). Thats why Nidaime not just dislike Benten, he hates her. 3) As you can see Nidaime sudden change of personality, is he originally a gentleman? :) Why he keep saying he is not a tengu? 4) As noted Nidaime has at least 100 years of experience, so in theory Benten who only has 20 years cannot beat Nidaime. Benten's sudden boost in power was because she ate the blue pebble. Well in the end she still lost though. 5) Without doubt Soun's plan to fail in many ways(like real kureichiro return etc). He and Tenmaya plan this "perfect" plot together, but they are not really in a loop. Because previous episode showed that the gun was a toy, why his perfect plan use the toy instead of a real gun? All because Tenmaya gave him the toy which should have been a real gun. Well thats one of the reason why Soun atked Tenmaya, the other being her daugther Kaisei involved, Soun at least still care for her:) 6) The clear hierachy of Uchouten world, Tengu>Human>Tanuki. See the Jurojin like a boss to want to capture all Tanuki? He doesn't faze at all, despite in front of many Tanukis who have the power to whack him.(In novel he was more clearly decribe at that moment and all tanukis really afriad of him) Oh yeah, Jurojin successfully ran away in this episode if you are wondering. *the topic of eating Tanuki tradition is too deep, I can't explain in here, it will be freaking long. lol 7) Why Yasaburo return back to tanuki the moment he sees Kaisei, the reason is simple, Kaisei in his eyes is toooo cute. Basically in Yasaburo's mind, Kaisei is number 1 cutest tanuki. The tragic "mushroom" trauma make him forgot about it and at that time both are still small. Tanuki kids didn't know how to transform to human yet also. novel volume 2 chapter 6(half chapter past) 8) A slight change of event? Yasaburo & Kaisei's part at the end should have been in after episode 8. Yasaburo & Benten's part should have been at the very very end of this of this episode. 9) "The red string of fate" in japanese isn’t limited to couples, or a single person who one is destined to find. Its about 2 people will make important history and all those whom we will help in one way or another, so it can also apply to best buddy and so on. Weirdly Yasaburo and Kaisei's red string is not a one-line type, but a more chaotic one, which has another meaning. Anyway In the end Yasaburo and Kaisei engaged again. Yasaburo pretty "chill" about the thought of relationship and still hasn't become so smitten to Kaisei yet, and he thinks this will take time(his heart still has Benten, he knows its impossible and Benten already told him that). Well there is still volume 3 to be the last of the series(also means season 3), will they end up together? :) This series(anime) may not be deep, but many things are unanswered also, so you guys will definately have many question(even I have). The novel only have 2 volumes up till now, even if you read both do not mean you will get all the answer... so you know what I mean... |
valvravetruthJul 17, 2017 12:20 PM
| Ty for sharing... I was wondering too if there ever will be a third season... |
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| >As you can see Nidaime sudden change of personality, is he originally a gentleman? :) Why he keep saying he is not a tengu? Probably because the girl he was in love with was human which was the cause of the fight with Akadama. Nidaime dislikes his tengu nature because of this history so he's adopted the lifestyle of a human. Benten being a human and Akadama's pupil contrasts this heavily and infuriates Nidaime further. |
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| thats been my favorite anime i've seen in years and one of the best one at that the ending made me really happy, the scene with Kaisei and being engaged, scene with Yasaburou patting Benten on the head. If season 3 will ever come out it'd be about the best thing ever. |
valvravetruth said: Interesting... she looks like my first love so i hate her. wtf?1) The fight between Nidaime and Akadama-sensei happened at least 100 years ago. As you can see in episode flashback the reason of fight was all because of one girl. Nidaime lost and left to other country. 2) Suprisingly, Benten looked exactly like the girl(Nidaime's 1st love). Thats why Nidaime not just dislike Benten, he hates her. 3) As you can see Nidaime sudden change of personality, is he originally a gentleman? :) Why he keep saying he is not a tengu? 4) As noted Nidaime has at least 100 years of experience, so in theory Benten who only has 20 years cannot beat Nidaime. Benten's sudden boost in power was because she ate the blue pebble. Well in the she still lost though. Anyways, after this explanation that dialogue between Nidaime and Akadama-sensei makes more sense. Thanks for the contribution. |
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| So did this change will effect next season story? (if they make another) valvravetruth said: 7) Why Yasaburo return back to tanuki the moment he sees Kaisei, the reason is simple, Kaisei in his eyes is toooo cute. Basically in Yasaburo's mind, Kaisei is number 1 cutest tanuki. The tragic "mushroom" trauma make him forgot about it and at that time both are still small. Tanuki kids didn't know how to transform to human yet also. OOOOOHHHHH I SEE (and for other detail) |
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Aria said: Interesting... she looks like my first love so i hate her. wtf. Well, it seems like she left him at the end, so maybe he hates her for that reason. Btw, now that I think of it, maybe Akadama noticed that Benten resembles that girl when he saw her, and that's the reason why he took her and teached her how to be a Tengu, to introduce her to his son. |
| Valvravetruth, is there explanation in the book why Benten is wearing a tattered witch outfit this last episode? She usually dresses immaculately. |
| @tropicaldaruma Thats just simply her style. |
heiqi1hu said: What is the mushroom tragic? Did Kaisei transform into the mushroom? You saw it the flashback where mushrooms grows on Yasaburo's butt and kin/ginkaku making fun of him. |
| Wait. So Soun was never shot? It was a fake gun? It looked like he was severely wounded lying on the ground as a tanuki. That's actually one of the main things I was confused about. How did Soun fake his death? He just came back and they never really explained it. And then he was dragged down to hell in the final episode. |
| A small detail i noticed was that the clock tower in the lake that benten lives in is the same hotel that the woman from Nidaime's past was in, and she was also sitting on the chair the same way as Benten. I kind of see the possibility of benten being a descendant of this woman. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Aria said: valvravetruth said: Interesting... she looks like my first love so i hate her. wtf?1) The fight between Nidaime and Akadama-sensei happened at least 100 years ago. As you can see in episode flashback the reason of fight was all because of one girl. Nidaime lost and left to other country. 2) Suprisingly, Benten looked exactly like the girl(Nidaime's 1st love). Thats why Nidaime not just dislike Benten, he hates her. 3) As you can see Nidaime sudden change of personality, is he originally a gentleman? :) Why he keep saying he is not a tengu? 4) As noted Nidaime has at least 100 years of experience, so in theory Benten who only has 20 years cannot beat Nidaime. Benten's sudden boost in power was because she ate the blue pebble. Well in the she still lost though. I guess he's just really salty about being heartbroken and is immature? *gahh* "That hurts" |
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-Ronin said: Aria said: Interesting... she looks like my first love so i hate her. wtf. Well, it seems like she left him at the end, so maybe he hates her for that reason. Btw, now that I think of it, maybe Akadama noticed that Benten resembles that girl when he saw her, and that's the reason why he took her and teached her how to be a Tengu, to introduce her to his son. These small details just make the show ever so much more engaging and better to watch :) |
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yamurama said: Its without a doubt immaturity. But lets also not forget Benten has kind of been immediately pompous to him the second they met. Nidiame is probably deluding himself in an attempt to not find attraction in Benten out of fear of the past repeating itself. Its kind of a shitty thought given that Nidaime is the one who finally knocked Benten off her high horse, and hard at that, but if he was more honest with himself he probably would have been infatuated with Benten and not of knocked her down the way he did and she so desperately needed to be.I guess he's just really salty about being heartbroken and is immature? *gahh* "That hurts" I also kind of subscribe to the theory that Benten is that woman's grandaughter or something. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| I have an easy question: ¿Does this season use exactly the same soundtrack as former season? |
Xesucrist0 said: I actually think it doesnt, A ton of really used tracks from last season were straight up not present at all. I'm sure there was some overlap but to my knowledge even these 2 songs were not used and they are kind of synonomous with the first season as they played borderline every episodeI have an easy question: ¿Does this season use exactly the same soundtrack as former season? Again i could be forgettful but I seriously dont think either of these or most of the 1st ost actually played this season. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
JizzyHitler said: Xesucrist0 said: I actually think it doesnt, A ton of really used tracks from last season were straight up not present at all. I'm sure there was some overlap but to my knowledge even these 2 songs were not used and they are kind of synonomous with the first season as they played borderline every episodeI have an easy question: ¿Does this season use exactly the same soundtrack as former season? Again i could be forgettful but I seriously dont think either of these or most of the 1st ost actually played this season. I can remember it had a lot of 1st season tracks. But I'm not sure now if there were new ones. And I can't find any S2 ost stuff anywhere, just OP and ED, maybe it isn't published yet. I know nothing. That's why I'm asking. Thank you for the answer! |
| I have some unanswered questions about the series.. Some might be already answered in the show but I forgot about it: 1. Who Benten actually is? A magician/witch? 2. Who Tenmaya actually is? A mage too? He can fly and use hypnosis as well. He's supposed to be already dead and crawled out from hell using the golden thread? 3. Why was Nidaime drunk, crouching, and buried by the Tanuki after the collision? A few moments ago he was standing without problem. 4. What is the meaning of the 'x' letter? Akadama and Nidaime both have that letter.. Is it just rejection letter? So the past girl rejected them both? 5. Does female tanuki lives much longer than the male? We never see any old female except the grandmother. Will all female tanukis become furball when they're old? valvravetruth said: 7) Why Yasaburo return back to tanuki the moment he sees Kaisei, the reason is simple, Kaisei in his eyes is toooo cute. Basically in Yasaburo's mind, Kaisei is number 1 cutest tanuki. The tragic "mushroom" trauma make him forgot about it and at that time both are still small. Tanuki kids didn't know how to transform to human yet also. Is this just your speculation? I think maybe it's because she got the red string thing with Yasaburo? JizzyHitler said: A small detail i noticed was that the clock tower in the lake that benten lives in is the same hotel that the woman from Nidaime's past was in, and she was also sitting on the chair the same way as Benten. I kind of see the possibility of benten being a descendant of this woman. I think that's the reason Akadama kidnapped her |
LeonLanford said: I have some unanswered questions about the series.. Some might be already answered in the show but I forgot about it: 1. Who Benten actually is? A magician/witch? 2. Who Tenmaya actually is? A mage too? He can fly and use hypnosis as well. He's supposed to be already dead and crawled out from hell using the golden thread? 3. Why was Nidaime drunk, crouching, and buried by the Tanuki after the collision? A few moments ago he was standing without problem. 4. What is the meaning of the 'x' letter? Akadama and Nidaime both have that letter.. Is it just rejection letter? So the past girl rejected them both? 5. Does female tanuki lives much longer than the male? We never see any old female except the grandmother. Will all female tanukis become furball when they're old? valvravetruth said: 7) Why Yasaburo return back to tanuki the moment he sees Kaisei, the reason is simple, Kaisei in his eyes is toooo cute. Basically in Yasaburo's mind, Kaisei is number 1 cutest tanuki. The tragic "mushroom" trauma make him forgot about it and at that time both are still small. Tanuki kids didn't know how to transform to human yet also. Is this just your speculation? I think maybe it's because she got the red string thing with Yasaburo? JizzyHitler said: A small detail i noticed was that the clock tower in the lake that benten lives in is the same hotel that the woman from Nidaime's past was in, and she was also sitting on the chair the same way as Benten. I kind of see the possibility of benten being a descendant of this woman. I think that's the reason Akadama kidnapped her I think him reverting back to tanuki form has more to do with what she represents. Yasaburo wants to be a free spirit that does what he wants not being weighed down by responsibility forced onto him. This is why he fell hard to benten because she is everything he wants to be. But as season 2 shows that the more repsonsibility you shake off the more you bring harm to those around you and yourself till you are left alone helpless when someone like Nidaime comes along and knocks you off your throne. Kaisei on the flip side represented responsibility and fate being forced on Yasaburo, she was his fiance without his choice so Yasaburo naturally rejected it as he saw it as a way to deny fate. This is the reason I think he loses his form, is Kaisei is his biggest fear or fate deciding things, but I also think it partially has to do with him realizing he kind of wants to follow fate with kaisei since the thing really holding them back really did seem to be as simple as him not seeing her. Pretty much every single conversation they had would consistently come back to Yasaburo getting frustrated that she hadn't shown herself to him. So in a way I do think to some degree Kaisei being cute does play a part. Yasaburo genuinely liked her the whole series but just got stuck on (kind of justifiably) the fact that she refused to show herself, but then after seeing her fate kind of decided to mess with him. If this is the real reason, I have no clue how exactly they will remedy the de-transformation. I assume there will be something more specific when novel and season 3 roll around. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
JizzyHitler said: LeonLanford said: I have some unanswered questions about the series.. Some might be already answered in the show but I forgot about it: 1. Who Benten actually is? A magician/witch? 2. Who Tenmaya actually is? A mage too? He can fly and use hypnosis as well. He's supposed to be already dead and crawled out from hell using the golden thread? 3. Why was Nidaime drunk, crouching, and buried by the Tanuki after the collision? A few moments ago he was standing without problem. 4. What is the meaning of the 'x' letter? Akadama and Nidaime both have that letter.. Is it just rejection letter? So the past girl rejected them both? 5. Does female tanuki lives much longer than the male? We never see any old female except the grandmother. Will all female tanukis become furball when they're old? Is this just your speculation? I think maybe it's because she got the red string thing with Yasaburo? I think that's the reason Akadama kidnapped her I think him reverting back to tanuki form has more to do with what she represents. Yasaburo wants to be a free spirit that does what he wants not being weighed down by responsibility forced onto him. This is why he fell hard to benten because she is everything he wants to be. But as season 2 shows that the more repsonsibility you shake off the more you bring harm to those around you and yourself till you are left alone helpless when someone like Nidaime comes along and knocks you off your throne. Kaisei on the flip side represented responsibility and fate being forced on Yasaburo, she was his fiance without his choice so Yasaburo naturally rejected it as he saw it as a way to deny fate. This is the reason I think he loses his form, is Kaisei is his biggest fear or fate deciding things, but I also think it partially has to do with him realizing he kind of wants to follow fate with kaisei since the thing really holding them back really did seem to be as simple as him not seeing her. Pretty much every single conversation they had would consistently come back to Yasaburo getting frustrated that she hadn't shown herself to him. So in a way I do think to some degree Kaisei being cute does play a part. Yasaburo genuinely liked her the whole series but just got stuck on (kind of justifiably) the fact that she refused to show herself, but then after seeing her fate kind of decided to mess with him. If this is the real reason, I have no clue how exactly they will remedy the de-transformation. I assume there will be something more specific when novel and season 3 roll around. I understand what you explained but still not convinced.. Here's what my take on their relationship. From what I see Yasaburo was mad because his supposed to be fiancee never show up in front of him and never explained the reason. Yasaburo didn't hate her or maybe actually like her because she already helped him multiple times. The transformation weaknesses are quite strange, ranged from thunder to Tofu trumpet. He got transformed regardless Kaisei is in human form or tanuki form, that's why I think his weakness is 'fated person' not 'cute person'. If his weakness is 'cute person', he would already transformed back multiple times before.(his mom is cute too :)) There will be a season 3? Great! Do you have any source? |
LeonLanfordJul 17, 2017 9:20 AM
LeonLanford said: Here's what my take on their relationship. From what I see Yasaburo was mad because his supposed to be fiancee never show up in front of him and never explained the reason. Yasaburo didn't hate her or maybe actually like her because she already helped him multiple times. The transformation weaknesses are quite strange, ranged from thunder to Tofu trumpet. He got transformed regardless Kaisei is in human form or tanuki form, that's why I think his weakness is 'fated person' not 'cute person'. If his weakness is 'cute person', he would already transformed back multiple times before.(his mom is cute too :)) There will be a season 3? Great! Do you have any source? @JizzyHitler Just like I posted its just some small details, all from novels itself. So no speculation of course. Your theory of 'fated person' being Yasaburo weakness doesn't make sense. Tanuki's transformation is just like a mental thing, a certain something that shocks them enough will turn back to tanuki(Benten & gunshot etc), and the other is personal kind of fear/trauma(mother=thunder). Think a little bit logically, how can one be shocked simply by being 'fated'? Plus if you read my number 7 again Yasaburo reacted to Kaisei being cute, not about "cute person". To make more sense to you, imagine a virgin boy's reaction eveytime he meets the girl he likes, your form would crumble~ Well to a more concrete proof, read novel volume 2 chapter 6(half chapter past) To be specific novel volume 3 has been announced at the end of volume 2. Given that volume 1 & 2 release timing close to anime season 1 & 2 respectively, season 3 will definately be animated after volume 3 is released. I mean its the last volume of the story after all. |
valvravetruthJul 17, 2017 12:24 PM
valvravetruth said: LeonLanford said: Here's what my take on their relationship. From what I see Yasaburo was mad because his supposed to be fiancee never show up in front of him and never explained the reason. Yasaburo didn't hate her or maybe actually like her because she already helped him multiple times. The transformation weaknesses are quite strange, ranged from thunder to Tofu trumpet. He got transformed regardless Kaisei is in human form or tanuki form, that's why I think his weakness is 'fated person' not 'cute person'. If his weakness is 'cute person', he would already transformed back multiple times before.(his mom is cute too :)) There will be a season 3? Great! Do you have any source? @JizzyHitler Just like I posted its just some small details, all from novels itself. So no speculation of course. Your theory of 'fated person' being Yasaburo weakness doesn't make sense. Tanuki's transformation is just like a mental thing, a certain something that shocks them enough will turn back to tanuki(Benten & gunshot etc), and the other is personal kind of fear/trauma(mother=thunder). Think a little bit logically, how can one be shocked simply by being 'fated'? Plus if you read my number 7 again Yasaburo reacted to Kaisei being cute, not about "cute person". To make more sense to you, imagine a virgin boy's reaction eveytime he meets the girl he likes, your form would crumble~ Well to a more concrete proof, read novel volume 2 chapter 6(half chapter past) To be specific novel volume 3 has been announced at the end of volume 2. Given that volume 1 & 2 release timing close to anime season 1 & 2 respectively, season 3 will definately be animated after volume 3 is released. I mean its the last volume of the story after all. That's why I don't understand why Yasaburo feared Kaisei because she's cute? What is cute in this context? Appearance? Tanuki can shapeshift to something else, so if Kaisei transformed into someone else, will Yasaburo still get transformed back? And if some other Tanuki transformed to Kaisei, what happens? We saw that the tanuki and human form can revert him back. If you imagine virgin boy then he's shocked first time because Kaisei is too cute, after that he will get over it eventually right? That means his weakness will be gone? Is the 'shock' because Kaisei is cute or because of too cute person in general? I still don't understand.. I just hope if there's a season 3, all my questions above will be answered. This anime is the first anime that received 2nd season by PA Works so I never imagined this will get season 3 before. |
LeonLanford said: That's why I don't understand why Yasaburo feared Kaisei because she's cute? What is cute in this context? Appearance? Tanuki can shapeshift to something else, so if Kaisei transformed into someone else, will Yasaburo still get transformed back? And if some other Tanuki transformed to Kaisei, what happens? We saw that the tanuki and human form can revert him back. If you imagine virgin boy then he's shocked first time because Kaisei is too cute, after that he will get over it eventually right? That means his weakness will be gone? Is the 'shock' because Kaisei is cute or because of too cute person in general? Your way of thinking is unique:). Firstly Yasaburo doesn't "feared" Kaisei. Think logically again, have you ever heard anyone feared because of someone being cute? Yasaburo only transform back to tanuki by seing Kaisei's tanuki form, anything than that is fine. Kaisei to Yasaburo, is the number 1 cutest tanuki in the world(thats how Yasaburo describe it), that shock apon seeing tanuki Kaisei make Yasaburo unable to continue his human form(basically mental disturb). your part about virgin boy are not entirely complete, well from the start its just an example. Just like you said virgin boy will be shock at the first time, but after that he will still be nervous(unable to focus & relax) for some time. So yes this kind of stuff can be gotten over(maybe, never heard of it in story), but isn't that why Yasaburo said he will deal with it somehow? You don't really need to think too much in this, just think that Yasaburo transformed back because Kaisei is too cute in his eyes, the same as how his mother transformed back because of thunder. |
valvravetruth said: LeonLanford said: That's why I don't understand why Yasaburo feared Kaisei because she's cute? What is cute in this context? Appearance? Tanuki can shapeshift to something else, so if Kaisei transformed into someone else, will Yasaburo still get transformed back? And if some other Tanuki transformed to Kaisei, what happens? We saw that the tanuki and human form can revert him back. If you imagine virgin boy then he's shocked first time because Kaisei is too cute, after that he will get over it eventually right? That means his weakness will be gone? Is the 'shock' because Kaisei is cute or because of too cute person in general? Your way of thinking is unique:). Firstly Yasaburo doesn't "feared" Kaisei. Think logically again, have you ever heard anyone feared because of someone being cute? Yasaburo only transform back to tanuki by seing Kaisei's tanuki form, anything than that is fine. Kaisei to Yasaburo, is the number 1 cutest tanuki in the world(thats how Yasaburo describe it), that shock apon seeing tanuki Kaisei make Yasaburo unable to continue his human form(basically mental disturb). your part about virgin boy are not entirely complete, well from the start its just an example. Just like you said virgin boy will be shock at the first time, but after that he will still be nervous(unable to focus & relax) for some time. So yes this kind of stuff can be gotten over(maybe, never heard of it in story), but isn't that why Yasaburo said he will deal with it somehow? You don't really need to think too much in this, just think that Yasaburo transformed back because Kaisei is too cute in his eyes, the same as how his mother transformed back because of thunder. Yasaburo also transformed back when he saw Kaisei in human form.. First time was when he was a bear, second time at the reveal time she's in tanuki form, the rest is alternating between human and tanuki form. That's why I wonder what will happen if someone impersonate Kaisei whether in tanuki or human form. If it's just physical attraction(not the red string thing), then he should be transformed back. I don't think I think too much of this, I just can't understand the 'cute' reason and trying to explain why I can't understand. The thunder is understandable because her mom afraid of it, she's shown shivering everytime she hear the thunder. After all, Yasaburo is one who resembles his father the most(said his father). His father also got weird weakness like Yasaburo, there's no explanation why he can't transform when seeing Benten so maybe it's just hereditary. |
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