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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I thought this episode was alright. We got to meet more of the local people and the neighborhood. For what's worth, I really like how they are developing the main characters slowly with their work and roles. Collectively, the group also seems to be more motivated together despite their rocky start. |
Stark700Apr 26, 2017 8:15 AM
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| So not everyone is open to new ideas and not everyone wants change but that doesn't change the situation. It looks like things are improving tho and it looks like the town has a few unique things that could keep it going. Still the first have to change the opinions of the residents before they can change the town. |
| Riri's bitch grandmother aside, this episode was great but it left me feeling really conflicted because I agree with both sides, but at the same time I feel like no matter how much we want things like traditions to stay the same, eventually you're gonna have to get with the times So seeing how Yoshino and the gang came up with all of these cool ideas, I was really excited to see if they could manage to get them off the ground, but the opposition to change is beyond strong here and so I just feel bad I felt even more for Sanae though......Poor girl went through a lot and after what that carving guy said to them, it's hard to not agree with him because he was right and so seeing Sanae just give up and that look on Yoshino's face really sucked >.< I hope that whatever it is they decide to do from now on will bring life back to Sanae and hopefully steer the town (And the girls) in the right direction because seeing Yoshino's team working together and just enjoying themselves is just a real joy to see and I truly feel like they can accomplish anything together |
| Trying to combine classic/traditional art with modern technique is essentially a nice idea, i understand the wood carver completely though. He probably thinks that the art is disrespected this way and no one is looking at it with passion like he does. I also liked that vending machine, looked really cool. I'm not sure if the drama with Sanae wanting to give up was too overblown at the end, was not feeling that. Her explaining the situation she was in before, that was informative and good though. |
| The lonely feeling of Ririko's grandma. :( And about Yoshino's idea for "fusing" the wood carve with exoskeleteon, I think Ririko's grandma and Kazushi really have a point about opposing those idea. For Manoyama's good. |
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| A very good episode again. I understand what Riri's grandmother is trying to do by wanting to keep traditions as they are, but she in a way just comes of as close minded just like our Old Man Kadota says. Anyway, I really liked watching Yoshi and co try to mix up tradition with technology, the stuff they made seemed like a lot of fun, shame that they were met with such opposition. The scene with Sanae apologizing to the older carving guy was sad but even though what he said made sense, he was definitely being quite harsh. Would've been nice if he could've offered some insight to point them in the right direction. Sanae talking about her past was pretty sad, the realization that you're just another person in a huge world can be downright demotivating for a lot of people. However, it's the endless struggle to leave our mark on the world in some form what makes us truly alive. Hope Sanae reconsiders her decision to quit the team. Also Tokoya said: Riri's bitch grandmother aside, this episode was great but it left me feeling really conflicted because I agree with both sides, but at the same time I feel like no matter how much we want things like traditions to stay the same, eventually you're gonna have to get with the times ^This, lot of traditional people especially in my country refuse to go along with the times. |
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| Nice episode. Man that exoskelet lol and no matter what i'll ship it... |
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 Sasuga Oden Detective! This show is getting better and better, that monologue at the end felt real and heartfelt - something that clearly echoed of Shirobako. I can see workers in the anime industry facing a similar predicament, not just the IT crowd. You have to toil till you drop, but at the end of the day, you could very well be replaceable, and your personal importance fades - in fact, sometimes it is that very fear that drives people to work harder. In Sanae's case, she chose to get away from that lifestyle. Seeing Kazushi's convictions made her feel inferior again, and left her dejected. Hopefully she will bounce back, with a little help from her friends. In contrast to Shirobako, though, there seems to be a romance brewing, although it's at a nascent stage right now. I'm interested to see where this goes, and how this show will handle it. |
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| Lovely episode. Combining modern technology with traditional art sounds like a good idea. But some people don't like that. Riri's grandmother and the woodcarver were against it. What he said made some sense. At least there are some people that are okay with it. Nice to see some backstory for Sanae. The transforming Buddha-vending machine was cool. |
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| Why did they have to end the episode like that. Seemed quite slow but overall it was a good episode. The guy was pretty harsh with Sanae. Ririko's grandmother was annoying in the first few episodes but after this one I just hate her. *Note: I accidentally didn't include (grandmother) after Ririko. Don't hate on me. |
LeoApr 27, 2017 2:17 PM
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| Even traditional national pride will be taken down if it doesn't make money, the corporate world is so lifeless :'( Sanae falling for the sculpture guy and she gets told off and depressed. |
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| Finally we get to see proper characteristic stuff about Manoyama The buddha vending machine was awesome, deshi-kun dude doesn't undestand art.  |
AnathorApr 26, 2017 12:04 PM
| Wow, the ending made me a bit teary, ain't gonna lie. The exosleleton was lit af, fam. |
 shit!! he got me! that fucking Poly boomed me! he's so good! (x4) |
| Yep, the real artist is the inventor here. This guy's imagination seems to not know any boundaries. On the other hand, in a moment where I lacked lucidity I began to ship Sanae and the ... asshole ... well I changed my mind quite quickly. Woah! Someone clever enough to quit an unhealthy lifestyle being arrogantly lectured by someone who will stupidly crush his head on a wall. No thanks. She deserves better. |
| That was such a great episode, probably the best one so far. I completely understand both sides, but yet it's a really complicated matter. I hope they'll figure a way out that works out for both sides. Also, Sanae's moment was heartfelt. |
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| All they need to do is promote the exoskele alone lol Ririko's curiosity of the technology the weird old man created is adorable somehow. The drama of "dont want traditions to change" is old and predictable. Also Kazushi's character and importance to the story can be predicted just from his first appearance. Sanae's characterization was great. It is a problem only fit to an anime about "obsession with cities". |
| I loved the episode this week. It got me absorbed in it. They are finally moving in a direction. |
If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
| that headband dude need to make smartphone wooden cases/any kind of accessories (they even discussed it before making that shitty exoskeleton ffs) and sell it online. 100% sold. 1 0 0 %. and that buddha machine need to stay no matter what. |
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| I really want more screen time for the guy with blonde hair. He seems so funny, I want to know his story. |
| Man, it's been a while since I have watched an episode that's left me on a fence as to which side I agree with more. The creativity that Yoshino's group had with the Buddha vending machine was really nice, but it does go against the opinion of Kazushi and Ririko's grandmother, who wants to keep the wood carving as it is. Although Kazushi was correct to criticise Sanae for her reasons for moving to Manoyama, he did say it a a slightly harsh way that's left her mentally and emotionally dejected. No doubt that it'll take something special from the other girls to spark the motivation in Sanae to get herself back on her feet and prove to Kazushi that her reason to moving to Manoyana wasn't a wasted choice. In the end, I still see something being made that'll gain the approval from both sides that should help them promote the town's wood-carving talent. Hopefully it'll give them a better chance to appeal to the more modern-tech obsessed public this way. Another great episode once again. =) |
| That was not a good episode for the queen, she always tried hard but just can't get the support she needs from the people. I thought some of those ideas were good but the people don't want to break tradition and just reject her all the time. Ririko's grandmother is the biggest opposition for them all the time. Unfortunately it looks like she lost a team member at the end there. |
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| Well this show getting 25 eps is pretty good on paper but I hope they won't spend the longer episode count on stuff like this too much. That was pretty boring at least, especially compared to the previous episodes :/ |
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Smudy said: It worked for me. I admit it may have lacked some buildup - I may be filling in the details, as I've wanted to do the same often in the last 20 years. She's been hiding, literally and figurative, for 6 months, lying to herself and anybody who reads her blog. He called her on it, and she realized she didn't even have a good reason why she was helping Yoshino. She even said earlier in the episode helping Yoshino was not her full time job. The implication then, she realized, is that her 'full time' job was lying...I'm not sure if the drama with Sanae wanting to give up was too overblown at the end, was not feeling that. |
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Meta_Yoshi said: Although Kazushi was correct to criticise Sanae for her reasons for moving to Manoyama, he did say it a a slightly harsh way that's left her mentally and emotionally dejected. No doubt that it'll take something special from the other girls to spark the motivation in Sanae to get herself back on her feet and prove to Kazushi that her reason to moving to Manoyana wasn't a wasted choice... I don't quite agree with that. So, a person who finally realizes how sad and shitty the modern city life is and made the choice to leave that wretched lifestyle is escaping? That said, they really did show her as sort of escaping... but this is about him, not her. He just so happen to get it right. His question to her, "why this town, it can be any town.", well, I can ask him that too, like he said, it can be any town, so why not this town? Is this some special town that only people he approve of is allowed? As for his "you have no right to talk if you don't even know what wood that is" is rubbish. It's like your opinion on taste is wrong unless you're a chef yourself. Bloody f--king rubbish. Anyway, their job is to promote the town, not wood-carving. Wood-carving is just something that they can use to do their job. MCs job is get people for the town/him and it's up to him to share the details to the people she manages to attract. Also his "nobody ask you to promote it"... it's shown that their wood-carving is recognized, in other words funds will be allocated to it (directly or indirectly) by the government and MC's working for the town's tourist board (i.e. government)... you see where that is going. P.S. Riri's grandmother, it's quite obvious that she's objecting for the sake of objecting and not because she's with the "traditional camp" or anything of the sort. |
IMACOPApr 26, 2017 9:48 PM
| Omae wa mou bakuhatsu desu! |
| Ahh it's the traditional vs. new theme again :( It's a really hard topic, because let's face it, some very traditional things aren't cared much for at all these days, with so many forms of entertainment out there and how we can find more "interesting" things just with a few clicks or search on the internet. I used to be in the traditional only camp, but I think it's just really hard to keep all traditional things, traditional. I understand completely though, Kazushi's perspective. He knew what he was getting into when he went to Manoyama and stuck to wood carving...but maybe he needs to see that what he loves might continue to die without any change. Will he be okay with that? He can keep doing what he loves, but why can't other people, who also love the same thing, do something different from him? (Honestly this reminds me so much of Shouwa Rakugo.) Will the team promoting woodcarving in Manoyama really change ranma? If there is a demand for something else, nothing is stopping him from doing what he's always been doing. Or maybe I just relate too much to Yoshino in this episode. My stepfather showed me some traditional wood carvings when I went to Taiwan, and I went into the tiny studio his friend/sometimes business partner worked at, and I was amazed at the intricate details of his work. My stepfather then told me that the works take a hell lot of time and are sold for a lot, not many people can afford it, or want to pay the price for even the smaller pieces. I thought it was sad and I said I hoped that it will continue on, that this kind of artwork would not die out (though I'm pretty sure it won't there is still a demand for it). But do you have to have knowledge the work to appreciate it, as Kazushi blatantly accused Yoshino and Sanae of not having? After all, don't we all start out with not having knowledge about something? Anyways, I'm really interested in seeing how this will go down, will the team be able to successfully promote the woodcarving (or specifically ranma), and/or if Kazushi would soften his stance. I think they might not be able to use ranma as a tourist attraction, at least not by itself...especially looking at the long journey ahead of them (and us). Oh yeah, and I totally understand Sanae, I'd love to run away too. I used to work overtime weekly (although nothing as bad as the Asian culture of working...) and then realized that I'm dispensable. I mean I know I am, but humans want to feel needed as that feeling is partially what gives us self-worth, according to my social relationship and health class. I'd be awed and feel even a bit envious of Kazushi as well. |
tingyApr 26, 2017 9:18 PM
| For some reason I thought they were gonna built a mecha suit. |
| "I lost all of what you could call feelings of love. They weren't sealed, so they can't be released. They weren't broken, so they can't be fixed. That which is lost, cannot be recovered." Shiba Tatsuya "There are no regrets. If one can be proud of one's life, one should not wish for another chance." Saber "No matter what happens, no matter how crazy things get, I'll always try to restore balance." Korra "It's madness to let others take what's yours and accept it blindly." Baatar Jr "Instinct is a lie, told by a fearful body, hoping to be wrong." Zaheer "Partner in crime, partner in time" Chloe Price and Max Caulfield |
| Nice Sanae moments in this episode. I'm glad we're getting to know more about her. |
| Pretty good episode more focus on Sanae and hopefully it turns out well for both parties, I think they can still stick with their traditions at the same time attracting tourists, like having a tour in Kazushi's studio for example while watching the process of making one of their sculptures. |
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| Teriffic episode! Its a goddamn shame that this isnt more popular! |
| Best episode so far. It was a nice flashy entrance and all we got was a vending machine lol, but I do think the hercule mk2 was really cool. It helped our team girls out. I loved the character study of Sanae and Kazushi, I thought it was just going to be a random pairing but the second half of the episode really touched on Sanae's character a lot, I loved it. Kind of an abrupt end I feel but this was a great episode. The highlight of the episode for me definitely was Sanae's phrase, "A future is made from the knowledge of the past." I hope the girls taste the success they're aiming so hard for soon. I need more of the flute guy lol, he's the best character in the show. |
| I do not understand the users, but as far as I'm concerned, this show deserves a lot. I like the frankness and extreme realism that put us in telling the story. The work of PA Works is as good as usual. I can not wait to see the next episode. :) |
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| Good episode with some really interesting insights from both sides of the fence. I cannot help but agreeing with the 'new' side though. Adapt or die the way I see it. Let's see how they solve it here. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
IMACOP said: Meta_Yoshi said: Although Kazushi was correct to criticise Sanae for her reasons for moving to Manoyama, he did say it a a slightly harsh way that's left her mentally and emotionally dejected. No doubt that it'll take something special from the other girls to spark the motivation in Sanae to get herself back on her feet and prove to Kazushi that her reason to moving to Manoyana wasn't a wasted choice... I don't quite agree with that. So, a person who finally realizes how sad and shitty the modern city life is and made the choice to leave that wretched lifestyle is escaping? That said, they really did show her as sort of escaping... but this is about him, not her. He just so happen to get it right. His question to her, "why this town, it can be any town.", well, I can ask him that too, like he said, it can be any town, so why not this town? Is this some special town that only people he approve of is allowed? As for his "you have no right to talk if you don't even know what wood that is" is rubbish. It's like your opinion on taste is wrong unless you're a chef yourself. Bloody f--king rubbish. Anyway, their job is to promote the town, not wood-carving. Wood-carving is just something that they can use to do their job. MCs job is get people for the town/him and it's up to him to share the details to the people she manages to attract. Also his "nobody ask you to promote it"... it's shown that their wood-carving is recognized, in other words funds will be allocated to it (directly or indirectly) by the government and MC's working for the town's tourist board (i.e. government)... you see where that is going. P.S. Riri's grandmother, it's quite obvious that she's objecting for the sake of objecting and not because she's with the "traditional camp" or anything of the sort. That's what I find pretty interesting about the whole scene with him speaking his opinion to Sanae. His reason for moving here has already been stated in the episode, although his question to Sanae about why she chose this place and not elsewhere can be used on him too. Obviously, Yoshino's role is to promote the town and the wood-carving is one thing that if done right, can help them get closer to that goal. Kazushi's current stance isn't helping Yoshino and the tourism board though, so if they can get Kazushi to co-operate with them, then that would be great for both sides. @Cratex has a good point about Sanae too. It makes me think about what she really wants to do after hearing Kazushi's opinion. She'll need time to think things over about what to do next, but I can't rule out Yoshino and the others trying their best to motivate her to help them out again with their goal. |
| Best way to come up with some ideas, get a bunch of friends, find a nice basement, get drunk and wright down everything you think of, realize how stupid those ideas were but also realize that those stupid ideas could work somehow... somewhere. This town sure has a lot of weird people, at least the inventor dude's stuff actually works. Also got quite a bit of backstory on Sanae, and now to see how they get her back next episode. |
A Wild and Small Otaku has Appeared! |
| That inventor/mechanic should be included to Yoshino's staff, that's some good inventions he got there... except the Kabura soda. Mixed feelings on this episode. |
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| Good episode a bit of drama at the end, though I don't think I wouldn't call that running away rather a change of pace, her workplace was killing her. |
| -wait is sanae narrating this episode -i like this doku guy already -eh ririko's grandma doesn't seem too bad from that exchange they had when ririko came home late -the dokushima dude makes me smile every time he shows up -the banter between the head honcho and ririko's grandma is always spicy -wow this turned kinda dark towards the end there -Wow the ending of this episode has the potential to be pretty interesting I will admit that the star mechanic in the middle of nowhere came as a pleasant surprise, but I was somewhat less thrilled with the subject matter of the episode. There was definitely an increased importance placed on art in the episode, but woodworking isn't exactly a form of art that I think is interesting in animation. I guess what was most important about the whole woodworking thing was that whole thing about "why Manoyama" near the end of the episode. The end of the episode was pretty much the only memorable thing about it because it got Sanae talking about the real reason she moved to the countryside. Also, she (probably only temporarily) is quitting the tourism board, which is something that I didn't expect. I just hope they handle that plot point well. Other than the parts toward the end of the episode, I didn't like this one too much. |
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| Apparently this is first trial of the 5 champions how will they (especially Sanae) overcome this? Can't wait for the next episode! |
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| Lol that Buddha vending machine. The future is here....  |
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| Wait, wait, wait.... there's a guy who created an exoskeleton and a guy who can create incredibly detailed wood carvings in the village? How the fuck is this village not more prospering? Even the issue in this episode could've been sold so simply; create an exhibition for the wood carvings and supplement said exhibition with wacky inventions like that folding vending machine. This entire issue is just so honestly simple to solve, it's amazing how absolutely none of them has figured even the slightest hint to it. Worst episode so far by a mile. |
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yhunata said: Wait, wait, wait.... there's a guy who created an exoskeleton and a guy who can create incredibly detailed wood carvings in the village? How the fuck is this village not more prospering? Even the issue in this episode could've been sold so simply; create an exhibition for the wood carvings and supplement said exhibition with wacky inventions like that folding vending machine. This entire issue is just so honestly simple to solve, it's amazing how absolutely none of them has figured even the slightest hint to it. Worst episode so far by a mile. It's not that simple to solve. If it was, they would have done it already. |
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Kittens-kun said: yhunata said: Wait, wait, wait.... there's a guy who created an exoskeleton and a guy who can create incredibly detailed wood carvings in the village? How the fuck is this village not more prospering? Even the issue in this episode could've been sold so simply; create an exhibition for the wood carvings and supplement said exhibition with wacky inventions like that folding vending machine. This entire issue is just so honestly simple to solve, it's amazing how absolutely none of them has figured even the slightest hint to it. Worst episode so far by a mile. It's not that simple to solve. If it was, they would have done it already. Okay, then tell me. Why is it not simple? |
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If it was as simple as you say it is, the 5 of them would have thought of your suggestion by now, whether they show it in the episode or not. Not that hard to understand. |
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| Best episode so far I think. Kazushi got on my nerves there, even if he wasn't completely wrong. That wasn't the right way of saying it. Sanae has her reasons, and he acted like he knows everything. Bleh. |
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Kittens-kun said: If it was as simple as you say it is, the 5 of them would have thought of your suggestion by now, whether they show it in the episode or not. Not that hard to understand. It is quite easy to understand. Them not figuring it out is bad writing. Unless you can properly explain why my solution is not possible or give an actual reason for why they couldn't have figured it out, I'll hold to the point that you're trying to defend this episode without any arguments at all. |
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| I really like how this episode focuses on the good ol' Tradition vs. Modernity argument. Despite the slow pacing, I'm enjoying this show so far. Looking forward to the next episode. |
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yhunata said: Kittens-kun said: If it was as simple as you say it is, the 5 of them would have thought of your suggestion by now, whether they show it in the episode or not. Not that hard to understand. It is quite easy to understand. Them not figuring it out is bad writing. Unless you can properly explain why my solution is not possible or give an actual reason for why they couldn't have figured it out, I'll hold to the point that you're trying to defend this episode without any arguments at all. You're solution wouldn't work because they live in a nobody town. No one's going to go to an "exhibition" in a rundown town they've never heard of. Even if they held it on TV, nobody would fucking watch it. You're the only person complaining about this because everyone else can see there's no "bad writing" here. |
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