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Mar 5, 2017 6:23 AM
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Hmm I think this episode was okay, not as intense or action packed as some of the others but the info dumping is interesting and build up.

The journey also continues for Sorey and his group after dealing with that conflict. Seeing Sorey taking on his responsibilities as a Shepherd shows that he is growing stronger every day. Rose and Alisha are adapting with their roles as well even though it looked painful.
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oh wow, They're really going to have Alisha use armatization. I wonder how she'll look like.
Mar 5, 2017 7:09 AM
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That was a nice ''calm before the storm'' episode.

I'm interested in the armatization.
Mar 5, 2017 7:22 AM
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Decent episode I guess.

Build up for the final battle, looks like they are just gonna straight out take us to the final boss and end the anime there.
Velvet's name was mentioned but at this point, I don't think we'll see her make an appearance or if the story will anyhow tie into Berseria, unless the Lord of Calamity has something up his sleeve like resurrection or something.

I loved the montage with the S1 ED "Calling" playing as an insert. Definitely showcased the whole 'Calm before the Storm' thing really well.

Squire armatization should be nice to see.
Mar 5, 2017 8:03 AM
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Didn't enjoy it since it was (again) a slow episode. They did too much on how people consider Alisha (she's a goddess or what?).
There were some good points: some funny scenes like when Rose and Alisha wake up, or when Rose is looking for good clothes for Sorey, and for once it seemed that the characters are a real group, each one interacting with each other (although it's a bit late considering the fact there's only three episodes left), and also Sergei is back...
But I don't like how they handle things. Still feel nothing and thinking that they should have included the scene when everybody is fighting against Tiamat on the battlefield, then the alliance between the two nations wouldn't have look "out of nowhere". So now everybody is going to the snowy land to fight against Heldalf? (it seems they really like showing dementors floating caped hellions)
Three episodes left until this mess ends.
But wait, Alisha is gonna be able to armatize? No way!
Mar 5, 2017 8:17 AM
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I think this final battle preparation episode is what would happen if the game was done right. i think Sergei should be one of main character to complete 4 Kamui party for each 4 seraph elements. but at least alisha (and basically everyone else) are not ignored this time. the game focus 100% on sorey party and leomon with no other 3rd party involvement at all. the anime is complete opposite, sorey party doing random shit for 20+ episode with random 3rd party faction while ignoring plot with leomon completely. I just hope for the best for the climax, hoping everything resolved and hoping for 3rd game for zestiria trilogy teaser at the end
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Mar 5, 2017 8:34 AM
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but at least alisha (and basically everyone else) are not ignored this time.

Pointless as heck, considering her terrible resonance. But OK, if that's the only thing you care about. I love this cancer fandom lmao.

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the game focus 100% on sorey party and leomon with no other 3rd party involvement at all.

Tiamat, Maltran, Lucas (ignored here)... oh, screw this. I almost forgot about >tales of cancer fanbase.
Btw, Berseria spoilers + let's just ignore Maotelus? <lol>

Kirie-san said:
But I don't like how they handle things. Still feel nothing and thinking that they should have included the scene when everybody is fighting against Tiamat on the battlefield, then the alliance between the two nations wouldn't have look "out of nowhere". So now everybody is going to the snowy land to fight against Heldalf? (it seems they really like showing dementors floating caped hellions)
Three episodes left until this mess ends.
But wait, Alisha is gonna be able to armatize? No way!

It was way better than this dragon purification bullshit.
Btw, that direction is pure cancer. Symonne appeared out of nowhere x2. Also, it doesn't make sense at all. They clearly said that Dezel was possessing Rose. She should be able to armatize right off the bat. #f*** logic
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Mar 5, 2017 8:42 AM
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Almost though sorey was about to read the Berseria story right there lol , i love the way they drew her you could immediately recognize her from the hand

man all this build up and connection sorey mentioned velvet several time now i hope they have Berseria anime in the store for us , hell it's not even far from to make third game now although this is another story i just want Berseria anime after this one end

Nice ep we may see kamui Alisha now wow ! , sorey is still too weak to face the LoC i wonder how they pull through that

Srsly i won't be funny if he die in the next battle when he's the only one who can save the dragons
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Nice ep we may see kamui Alisha now wow ! , sorey is still too weak to face the LoC i wonder how they pull through that

1:1 dragon purification. Simple as that.
Btw, Berseria is horribly overdramatic in endgame. I'd probably prefer Xillia anime instead.
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they are pretty much giving us everything the game should have been this is why the anime is alot better than the game imo

hopefully they can keep this up all the way to the end really wonder how they will end the anime already sure it'll also be better than the game
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Kamiyan3991 said:
Devil_Slayer said:
Nice ep we may see kamui Alisha now wow ! , sorey is still too weak to face the LoC i wonder how they pull through that

1:1 dragon purification. Simple as that.
Btw, Berseria is horribly overdramatic in endgame. I'd probably prefer Xillia anime instead.


I don't think he will purify LoC that completely different story xD honestly speaking i would prefer if they kept the 4 trials for sorey so they can show us his power-up , in the game he was able to fight Heldalf pretty much by himself but in the anime it would seems as pull for sure

xillia is meh i would prefer xillia 2 if i am forced to choose , either way it's highly unlikely
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I don't think he will purify LoC that completely different story xD honestly speaking i would prefer if they kept the 4 trials for sorey so they can show us his power-up , in the game he was able to fight Heldalf pretty much by himself but in the anime it would seems as pull for sure

Like pretty much everything here, so what's the problem? Btw, dunno if it's worse as game adaptation or as standalone production. Even w/o pointless changes we still have that broken pacing etc.

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xillia is meh i would prefer xillia 2 if i am forced to choose , either way it's highly unlikely

Zestiria was all the more unlikely, you know.
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Build up episode, and a decent one at that. Looking forward to the final boss

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Mar 5, 2017 10:10 AM

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So many people joined to fight the Lord of Calamity. Alisha and Rose were trying to do armatization, but it was painful.
Mar 5, 2017 10:36 AM

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Nice calm before the storm episode, but that obviously means shit is really gonna go down when they finally battle the Lord of Calamity, especially if they can't get Armatization sorted.
Mar 5, 2017 10:39 AM

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They are continuing to alter and change and add things to try to salvage the overall going ons.

Also they yet again upped the berseria reference count this episode. There's no way the anime original endgame won't tie somehow into Berseria.
Mar 5, 2017 11:36 AM

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This was a decent build up episode, they're changing a lot from the original game but it was to be expected considering the previous episodes, one thing that bugs me is the whole army thing though, I can understand the Normin because they buff the Shepard / Squires / Seraphs but what about all those humans in there who wanna fight or treat this as an expedition? Didn't they mention previously that only the Shepard or Squires can fight hellions because they have to purified in order to be defeated? So what are all those people gonna do then?

And speaking of changes the armatization thing was sorta weird too, it's such a simple thing in the game and you get it right away with Sorey and Rose (although Alisha can't do it) but now it's this big plot point on how it takes it's toll on the body? I guess they have to come up with some drama for the next episodes... And finally, about Dezel and Maltran... I wonder if they'll somehow still incorporate elements of their game counterparts but at this point I don't think much will happen with them

I'm also wondering about the ending too, or how they're gonna implement the Lord of Calamity's backstory and "other stuff" (trying to avoid spoilers) that happened at the end of the game, overall though this is not a bad adaptation at all considering what they had to work with
Mar 5, 2017 11:41 AM
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@GangsterCat : Loool. Sergei was a good character in the game but in the anime he's useless. Alisha and everyone else are not ignored this time? It's a bit late considering the fact that the anime is almost at its end. Of course the game focuses on Sorey's party, he's the main character, but the other characters also had a role: Alisha, Sergei (he's the one who taught Lion's Howl to Sorey), Maltran, Symonne and Lucas...
And also, characters were way more developped (Mikleo, Dezel, Heldalf). In the anime we learn nothing about them except for Alisha and Rose.

@Kamiyan3991 : I didn't know that fandom can be a huge cancer, that's sad.
I don't understand why they keep bothering showing Berseria while they will probably not tell us about Maotelus.
Alisha with her low resonance could now be able to armatize while Rose who has a great resonance can't do it? #Nonsense Anyway, they didn't manage to do it so good luck to beat Heldalf xD
Of course the battle against Tiamat was "way better than this dragon purification bullshit" as you said =)

And, yeah, another nonsense: everybody comes to help but they don't even have the power to purify hellions... Or does that mean that everybody except Sorey's group and the Normins are going to die? xD

I don't even wish for a Berseria or a Xillia adaptation considering the mess they've done with Zestiria.
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Fai said:
They are continuing to alter and change and add things to try to salvage the overall going ons.

Also they yet again upped the berseria reference count this episode. There's no way the anime original endgame won't tie somehow into Berseria.


Berseria end spoiler
Mar 5, 2017 12:06 PM

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Everyone is coming together to face this final boss. Lets see how it all turns out. Hopefully Rose and Alisha can get the Armatization thing figured out.
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And speaking of changes the armatization thing was sorta weird too, it's such a simple thing in the game and you get it right away with Sorey and Rose (although Alisha can't do it) but now it's this big plot point on how it takes it's toll on the body? I guess they have to come up with some drama for the next episodes... And finally, about Dezel and Maltran... I wonder if they'll somehow still incorporate elements of their game counterparts but at this point I don't think much will happen with them

Armatization was dangerous at first but they polished it up after Berseria. Welp, blame Ufotable for this nonsense.

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And, yeah, another nonsense: everybody comes to help but they don't even have the power to purify hellions... Or does that mean that everybody except Sorey's group and the Normins are going to die? xD

They don't even see them. <lol>

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Which would segue into announcement of Berseria adaptation anime telling Velvet's story.

Keep dreaming. Also, all these glorifications of Berseria are kinda funny. It has its own problems... including overdramatic/broken endgame. Not sure if I even want anime adaptation, knowing japanese studios.
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Fai said:
They are continuing to alter and change and add things to try to salvage the overall going ons.

Also they yet again upped the berseria reference count this episode. There's no way the anime original endgame won't tie somehow into Berseria.


Berseria end spoiler


I could see that.
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Hell yeah im really enjoying these changes in the anime.

Also the FUCK THOSE BITCHING VIDEO GAME FANBOYS that think its cancer just because its different.
Mar 5, 2017 12:44 PM

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...that think its cancer just because its different.

That's not the case here. It's very bad even as a standalone production. TBH, I don't rly know other animes with so horrible pacing. Hm... maybe Re:Zero but it wasn't this bad.
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the calm before the storm episode

Sorey and company have lots of help now for the final fight against the lord of calamity

and Rose and Alisha are practicing armatization
Mar 5, 2017 2:42 PM

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your standard calm before the storm episode
Mar 5, 2017 3:05 PM

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i dont know why it took me till now to realize that the anime is practically damage control from the Alisha outcry in the game considering her larger role in this...also she should have her hair down more often



i do love that almost everybody is tagging along to this journey now..even the Normins
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Another transition episode, but this time was alright since they are heading to the final battle and the party is finally completed.
I hope for an epic final battle against Heldalf. The fact this is anime original and they are tying this with Berseria makes me really excited.
I can't wait to see the Armatizations of Rose and Alisha animated.

Nice Berseria spoilers too (not kinda). Too bad I already completed the game :)

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Zestiria was all the more unlikely, you know.
The reason why they made Zestiria adaptation was to promote Berseria. It was logical adapt the game who is actually connected with Berseria.

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Berseria end spoiler
That would be really interesting. I agree, that would be the only way to
Mar 5, 2017 3:13 PM

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Was pretty surprised to see Alisha try armatizing. I mean seeing as how they didn't ditch her like in the game it was to be expected she would eventually try at least but still a surprise none the less. Well hopefully they manage to succeed, I would like to see hers.
Mar 5, 2017 3:16 PM

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A pretty decent and build up episode. Really enjoyed it.

Did anyone else noticed that scene where everyone was camping at the stone ruin was similar to the ending at the previous season? The song was the same as well.

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HollowIchigo58 said:
...that think its cancer just because its different.

That's not the case here. It's very bad even as a standalone production. TBH, I don't rly know other animes with so horrible pacing. Hm... maybe Re:Zero but it wasn't this bad.
I think its really great and the pacing in here never bothered me because im just really enjoying the visuals and the characters, also I say this because I noticed that there's some parasites in this discussion.

I don't consider it bad because its my opinion and has pretty decent score here on MAL.
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Definitely getting interested.. I really like when everyone gathers & go for the final fight (gets you hyped up)
I expected them to purify the Edna's brother before the final fight tho but they didn't which was unexpected >.> Last fight is going to be epic. Can't wait >w<
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HollowIchigo58 said:
Kamiyan3991 said:

That's not the case here. It's very bad even as a standalone production. TBH, I don't rly know other animes with so horrible pacing. Hm... maybe Re:Zero but it wasn't this bad.
I think its really great and the pacing in here never bothered me because im just really enjoying the visuals and the characters, also I say this because I noticed that there's some parasites in this discussion.

I don't consider it bad because its my opinion and has pretty decent score here on MAL.
there are some people that make this out to be way worse than it actually is why¯\_(ツ)_/¯


everything is changed i don't know whats happening anymore lol they really did take that Alisha backlash to heart if this was a enhanced version the game she would be a permanent party member by now and it looks like were even getting a anime version of armatization for her as well.
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I guess they are just gonna fight the final boss like this. Was hoping for a 3rd season, but whatever. Only thing this season has better than season 1 is that they brought Zaveid more times
Mar 5, 2017 5:29 PM

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I love the adaptation, the uniqueness and novelty of it and also the fact that they do justice to other characters this time around.

On the other hand, if the anime was the game - extended version, then I would have probably been 1/4 as excited about the whole thing. The creators probably thought about it in the same way, since we got this new and improved version.
Mar 5, 2017 5:38 PM

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Pretty much a calm before the storm episode.


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Woah purifying the Dragon took out Rose & Alisha for quite a while.
Cool to hear the 1st Season ED song while everyone is gathering to take on the
Lord of Calamity.

Atakk is back.

Really want to see Rose & Alisha's armatization.
Haha that preview skit.
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HollowIchigo58 said:
I think its really great and the pacing in here never bothered me because im just really enjoying the visuals and the characters, also I say this because I noticed that there's some parasites in this discussion.

I don't consider it bad because its my opinion and has pretty decent score here on MAL.
there are some people that make this out to be way worse than it actually is why¯_(ツ)_/¯


everything is changed i don't know whats happening anymore lol they really did take that Alisha backlash to heart if this was a enhanced version the game she would be a permanent party member by now and it looks like were even getting a anime version of armatization for her as well.
I mind this with Alisha because I love seeing more of her and she's my favorite female character in Zestiria and I can't wait to see her Armatization Form.

The only backlash im hearing is Heldarf's bitch servant turning on him with no reason, which I don't care about ever.

Also the only thing I care about is seeing THIS as the Final Boss in the anime. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YZdoidsu5gs/maxresdefault.jpg
Mar 5, 2017 6:40 PM

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I like Alisha and Rose, so no problem for me.
Mar 5, 2017 8:42 PM
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I love the adaptation, the uniqueness and novelty of it and also the fact that they do justice to other characters this time around.

On the other hand, if the anime was the game - extended version, then I would have probably been 1/4 as excited about the whole thing. The creators probably thought about it in the same way, since we got this new and improved version.


This is actually my sentiment about this adaptation. If I liked the game story more then I would have hated this. But to be honest, the game story was very "meh" so I wouldn't mind an alternate version.

Of course, this adaptation suffered from really weird pacing and story arc issues. It ended up rushed as hell and I'm concerned how they will finish everything within a few episodes. In other words, this series as its own is actually pretty bad. But still more interesting than if they adapted the game plot.
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Mar 5, 2017 8:47 PM

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I really did enjoy this episode. I was expecting Rose to succeed the Armatization.

Armatized Alisha will be glorious. I always wanted to see that... but it is not guaranteed.

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So many Berseria references and they tease Velvet in the OP, I have a feeling they will somehow fit her into the climax. Also by the end they really need to show best boy Eizen being purified.
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Things are getting harder from now on huh? can't wait to see what's next!
Mar 6, 2017 6:23 AM

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Another great episode of Tales of Alisha the X
I wonder when will Alisha stop dreaming so we can get to what actually happened, though.
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Another great episode of Tales of Alisha the X
I wonder when will Alisha stop dreaming so we can get to what actually happened, though.

Excellent lol! If only it was her dream so we could get a real adaptation of the game. I think Edna said something about Alisha wanting to come with them (in the game). But in the game Alisha is not a selfish person who leaves her country while the war didn't stop.
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Kirie-san said:
Veldin461 said:
Another great episode of Tales of Alisha the X
I wonder when will Alisha stop dreaming so we can get to what actually happened, though.

Excellent lol! If only it was her dream so we could get a real adaptation of the game. I think Edna said something about Alisha wanting to come with them (in the game). But in the game Alisha is not a selfish person who leaves her country while the war didn't stop.


But Anime Alisha has legitimate reasons to go with Sorey...

1. If Sorey dies, she dies. Such connections were not made in the game.
2. Malevolence is about to engulf the world. Edna said it best --- there's no point bringing her brother back to a dying world --- there's no point staying behind to rebuild a country that will be destroyed. In the game, Alisha's presence was making Sorey blind and was also weakening his senses. She was a burden in the game, not in the Anime.

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In the game, Alisha's presence was making Sorey blind and was also weakening his senses. She was a burden in the game, not in the Anime.

Yeah, we all love Deus Ex (they didn't give her better resonance in anime).

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Another great episode of Tales of Alisha the X
I wonder when will Alisha stop dreaming so we can get to what actually happened, though.

aka the worst heroine ever
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aka the worst heroine ever


Your subjective opinion of course. My own subjective opinion is that this is exactly what makes Alisha so lovable. She goes at any lengths to do exactly what she wants to do, never caring about anyone that says otherwise and in the end she actually accomplishes it.

I remember that this was exactly the case when she went to look for the Shepard, then held the ceremony to select the Shepard (when everyone ignored her) or when she went and stopped the war when everyone around just wanted conflict. They even wanted her assassinated for it. Guess who was the assassin that actually thought that war was the only correct option there....
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Naiveness + stupidity + retardation + horrible gameplay (dat spear lmao) = lovable heroine? If you say so.
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@FrozenSheep : Of course, in the game they weren't stupid enough to bring up a condition like that (the fact that squires can die if the Sheperd dies). Moreover, in the anime, she calls Sorey for help while in the game she didn't know that her being Sorey would affect him, and after that she handled things by herself.
People are not supposed to know that there's a Lord of Calamity who brings chaos, so it would have been more realistic for her to stay and reassure people. And it doesn't make sense that everybody comes to help Sorey to fight while they can't even see hellions.
It's time to accept that the anime is a mess and that everything was done just to put Alisha in the spotlight, even if it brings nonsense (seems they don't care about that).
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