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Apr 2, 2016 4:39 PM
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The OP and ED were pretty nice.
Besides that pretty much nothing seems to have been changed from the OVA, though this is the first episode so nothing wrong with that. Well, apart from that bit before the OP, for whatever reason it was included there.
I preferred the first ep in the OVA but then it's one hour long and filled with material so yeah, that said, i'm hoping to see more new content (for the better, hopefully) in later episodes from the novels which were cut from the OVA version (or original content, as long as its good). Oh, and good thing they didn't change the OST.
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Apr 2, 2016 4:45 PM
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watched unicorn is wont be picking this up.seems like a waste of time regardless of how good unicorn was.
Apr 2, 2016 5:07 PM
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Believable pilots for a change rather than whiney or emotionless kids or kids playing with toys. Looking like one of the best anime this cour. But what an odd spot to end the episode.
Apr 2, 2016 5:13 PM
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Finally my GUNDAM UNICORN GREATNESS is back. Damn the OST is GOLD. That's Hiroyuki Sawano for ya. There really wasn't any change from the OVA, but this will be 25 episodes in the least. So there will be a lot more things that what the OVAs offered.
Apr 2, 2016 5:24 PM
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Not too happy with that scene in the beginning.
Apr 2, 2016 5:42 PM
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I like the OP & ED but man...the cuts are so obvs from the ovas and kinda awful, more so how the ep ended.
Apr 2, 2016 6:05 PM
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I've never watched any Gundam series before, but I've been getting into Mecha more lately so I thought I'd give this series a try and I'm glad I did..,, this first episode was just amazing!
Apr 2, 2016 6:26 PM
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I've never watched any Gundam series before, but I've been getting into Mecha more lately so I thought I'd give this series a try and I'm glad I did..,, this first episode was just amazing!


Yeah I wish people would stop scaring newcomers off by saying they have to watch all these series before getting into this.

This is a standalone story, you won't be missing out on much at all (just some references to past series). I would recommend not watching the OP or ED though, tons of spoilers.
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SakurasouBusters said:
I've never watched any Gundam series before, but I've been getting into Mecha more lately so I thought I'd give this series a try and I'm glad I did..,, this first episode was just amazing!


Yeah I wish people would stop scaring newcomers off by saying they have to watch all these series before getting into this.

This is a standalone story, you won't be missing out on much at all (just some references to past series). I would recommend not watching the OP or ED though, tons of spoilers.


ahh it's fine they won't know what it is they're looking at

that said, I then leave it to you to field any and all questions that could have been answered by watching the UC series that come before this.
Apr 2, 2016 6:51 PM

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Yeah I wish people would stop scaring newcomers off by saying they have to watch all these series before getting into this.

This is a standalone story, you won't be missing out on much at all (just some references to past series). I would recommend not watching the OP or ED though, tons of spoilers.


ahh it's fine they won't know what it is they're looking at

that said, I then leave it to you to field any and all questions that could have been answered by watching the UC series that come before this.


Unicorn mostly explains everything, the rest can be picked up on. Names would be the main confusing thing, but even then you can figure it out pretty easily.
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ex_necross said:
fst said:


ahh it's fine they won't know what it is they're looking at

that said, I then leave it to you to field any and all questions that could have been answered by watching the UC series that come before this.


Unicorn mostly explains everything, the rest can be picked up on. Names would be the main confusing thing, but even then you can figure it out pretty easily.
Oh my, so you're actually saying that we can watch it like that ? I was thinking to just skip it because people where saying that we had to watch the original story of the gundam universe before.
Apr 2, 2016 6:56 PM

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ex_necross said:


Unicorn mostly explains everything, the rest can be picked up on. Names would be the main confusing thing, but even then you can figure it out pretty easily.
Oh my, so you're actually saying that we can watch it like that ? I was thinking to just skip it because people where saying that we had to watch the original story of the gundam universe before.

Well I just watched the first episode and I found I was able to follow it pretty easily.
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DatRandomDude said:
ex_necross said:


Unicorn mostly explains everything, the rest can be picked up on. Names would be the main confusing thing, but even then you can figure it out pretty easily.
Oh my, so you're actually saying that we can watch it like that ? I was thinking to just skip it because people where saying that we had to watch the original story of the gundam universe before.


It is up to whether or not you are planning to watch all the previous stuff.

Here's the deal: You can watch Unicorn now. It is a standalone story with several references to older UC works, but it is absolutely not necessary to have watched them in order to enjoy this.

However IF you are planning to watch the earlier stuff anyway, then it makes sense to watch them first since you will understand the references in Unicorn. If you're not gonna do that, there's literally no reason you can't just watch Unicorn.
Apr 2, 2016 7:31 PM

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ex_necross said:
fst said:


ahh it's fine they won't know what it is they're looking at

that said, I then leave it to you to field any and all questions that could have been answered by watching the UC series that come before this.


Unicorn mostly explains everything, the rest can be picked up on. Names would be the main confusing thing, but even then you can figure it out pretty easily.


well yea, there won't be many, because the callbacks and references are unobtrusive enough that people watching this without the necessary background won't necessarily even realize they're missing anything, since some of them are practically throwaways, like when Bright briefly speaks to Amuro's picture as though he were there.

Still, a few lines of exposition, many of which are just passing mentions, do not necessarily constitute a complete substitute for relatively complex topics like Char's backstory (though in fairness not all of it is relevant to Unicorn).
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fst said:
ex_necross said:


Unicorn mostly explains everything, the rest can be picked up on. Names would be the main confusing thing, but even then you can figure it out pretty easily.


well yea, there won't be many, because the callbacks and references are unobtrusive enough that people watching this without the necessary background won't necessarily even realize they're missing anything, since some of them are practically throwaways, like when Bright briefly speaks to Amuro's picture as though he were there.

Still, a few lines of exposition, many of which are just passing mentions, do not necessarily constitute a complete substitute for relatively complex topics like Char's backstory (though in fairness not all of it is relevant to Unicorn).


It would help to be familiar with the Universe, definitely. But if you don't want to watch the older stuff for whatever reason, you can still watch this and enjoy this.
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tl;dr: Unicorn views well enough on its own, but without the backgrounding of the past entries you will be missing out on whole layers of meaning.
Apr 2, 2016 8:12 PM

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tl;dr: Unicorn views well enough on its own, but without the backgrounding of the past entries you will be missing out on whole layers of meaning.
pretty much, id say on its own its a 8/10 series, but with the context of the previous entries its a 10/10

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Apr 2, 2016 8:26 PM

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Y'know, i didn't particularly like Unicorn. I thought it was just fine, but i didn't love it or anything. But this makes me particularly hype. First off, by setting a TV series after CCA, we have a good jump-off point for a possible Late UC show (Late UC happens to also be my favorite Gundam time period). Now unite that with the fact that this sets a precedent for non-TV Series Gundam installments to become actual TV series, and you might notice that there's a tiny, tiny, tiiiiiny chance that Sunrise might make an F91 Anime, so that F91's wasted potential can be reused.
...Not really likely though, Sunrise isn't that kind.
Also, with this, we might actually finally get an HGUC Aqua GM.
It also gives me hope that with the extra time, Banana can get some much needed character development and stop being so bland. Although, i really shouldn't be complaining about boring protagonists when IBO just finished.

So this was basically just Unicorn with some bells and whistles here and there. Not much to say here.
I didn't really like the OP, i found the song and the video really bland.

All in all, this has a shit ton of potential. Let's see what they do with it.

P.S: I'd just like to remind everyone that Stark Jegan Guy died like a true man, fighting for the glorious Earth Federation Forces.
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Apr 2, 2016 8:32 PM

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Also, with this, we might actually finally get an HGUC Aqua GM.


That's a funny way of saying MG Jegan.
Apr 2, 2016 8:41 PM

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ex_necross said:
GhostofSide6 said:

Also, with this, we might actually finally get an HGUC Aqua GM.


That's a funny way of saying MG Jegan.


No reason why we can't have both.

...Oh. Right. Bandai hates us.
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Apr 2, 2016 9:01 PM

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The only gundams I've watched are 00 and IBO. I wanted to watch this so I kinda did some research on UC and watched the 1st ep of 0079 (hoping it helps).
This was kinda interesting and I might continue watching it to fill in the void until IBO season 2.
Btw, I'm kinda surprised this was in english.
Apr 2, 2016 9:02 PM

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While this may not out do the ova, I'll still be watching for the new little details they add for TV series. Whether this series is good or bad, only time will tell.
Apr 2, 2016 9:18 PM

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K now that I actually watched the thing...

What did they actually add that wasn't in the OVA? Not including the OP and them putting the end of OVA 1 at the start of TV 1...

-Added english voiceover in a bunch of places
-Different title in place of the OVA's title drop

No new scenes yet, OP/ED notwithstanding. At least, that's all I found.
Apr 2, 2016 9:26 PM

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that stark jegan will always remain the best thing that came out of unicorn

OP and ED are nice, pretty spoiler-ish tho
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What did they actually add that wasn't in the OVA? Not including the OP and them putting the end of OVA 1 at the start of TV 1...
wouldn't expect new scenes so early. there will be probably some new scenes in the middle like with Seed/Destiny HD or maybe some kind of short stories from the new novel
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What's up with that OP? It makes me question who this series is for.

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K now that I actually watched the thing...

What did they actually add that wasn't in the OVA? Not including the OP and them putting the end of OVA 1 at the start of TV 1...

-Added english voiceover in a bunch of places
-Different title in place of the OVA's title drop

No new scenes yet, OP/ED notwithstanding. At least, that's all I found.


Maybe me memory sucks but

Apr 2, 2016 9:39 PM

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What's up with that OP? It makes me question who this series is for.

fst said:
K now that I actually watched the thing...

What did they actually add that wasn't in the OVA? Not including the OP and them putting the end of OVA 1 at the start of TV 1...

-Added english voiceover in a bunch of places
-Different title in place of the OVA's title drop

No new scenes yet, OP/ED notwithstanding. At least, that's all I found.


Maybe me memory sucks but



It was in the novel, but not the OVA.
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What's up with that OP? It makes me question who this series is for.



Maybe me memory sucks but



It was in the novel, but not the OVA.


Would be cool if the fully followed the novel then, I heard the changed

because of the social climate IRL.
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It was in the novel, but not the OVA.


Would be cool if the fully followed the novel then, I heard the changed

because of the social climate IRL.


They cut out all references to her and her family being muslims if that's what you mean.
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"All those series"? 3 movies, a series and a film are far away from this description... There are of course other series, OVAs... covering the chronology in between or gravitating around the main ones but the bare minimum is only around 18 hours long.
I watched the first OAV when it was free on gundaminfo and... I don't see where is the appeal to be dropped in the main story whose implications and events are often related to the past (events or characters) when you have no grasp of any of those elements. No idea about the original novels, but when it was first released as discs, the series was clearly aiming the generations who knew the first Gundam (0079) and maybe grew up with it and its sequels. After all, it constitutes a conclusion to several more "little" stories started in the previous parts too.
Try to teach the Cold War period to someone who has absolutely no clue about the WWII.

Another U.C. series I can't follow during airing. -_- (still in U.C. 0083)
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They redraw some parts for the TV Version

https://twitter.com/gundam_unicorn/status/716398560481124352
Apr 3, 2016 3:29 AM

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I hadn't gotten to the OVAs so getting this was nice and fresh for me. Really enjoyed it and look forward to more.
Apr 3, 2016 6:03 AM

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Watched the first 4 episodes of the OVA, so I'll keep watching to see what they've changed. Actually kind of surprised that they decided to reanimate this altogether.
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After hearing the opening the Aldnoah Zero vibes are haunting me. I have nothing to complain about his work on UC OST but why has it to be Sawano? Regardless the song is not unpleasant but it's pretty bland imo. I hope that they will reuse some ending song (Ryuusei no Namida, merry go round or B-Bird) from the OVA at least.
Apr 3, 2016 8:35 AM

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Start driving again to see how you conclude the events of this story, for me is a kind of summary, in addition to acronyms, everything else is already my knowledge, except the seventh OVA. Excellent animations and designs, excellent fighting, back to opening and ending, I can already say that I like and agree with those who say that they are very rich in spoil, best to avoid seeing them.

Being a neophyte Gundam, I'm also looking at MS Gumdam 0079 to understand the UC, as the Unicorn series will last much, so I have plenty of time to watch the 0079 and go to Z and Gundam ZZ, and then get to "counterattack Char "and bring me up with Unicorn Re: 0096 anyway, I agree with those who say that you can gloss over the previous Unicorn anime series and watch it without problems.
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Sorry, my english is terrible.
It is Bad. Graphipcs still great, but it's all...
OVA lasted 8 hours , and it's just TV recap, no new material. Sunrise insolent, last 5 minutes of episode is advertising!
Apr 3, 2016 9:19 AM

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Sorry, my english is terrible.
It is Bad. Graphipcs still great, but it's all...
OVA lasted 8 hours , and it's just TV recap, no new material. Sunrise insolent, last 5 minutes of episode is advertising!

This is just the first episode and they did redraw some stuff

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I`m pretty happy that I have a new gundam series to watch! I didn`t watch the OVA so it`s all new to me!!
This new series give me the same feeling that the original gundam give me some years ago so I`m pretty excited for this!
The OST seems gold, tho!
Apr 3, 2016 9:22 AM

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Curious to see if it will add anything huge in the end, this episode only added an in media res sequence which frankly, was not needed at all and ruined the boldness of the OVA's intro on the beginning of UC. Not sure my opinion on Unicorn may change too much with this, the ending theme showing part of the finale has me groaning a bit.
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The OVA series is one of my favourite anime's of all time, everyone I know laments the fact I never shut up about it.

Found it a bit odd that Banagher is in the Unicorn at the beginning but I suppose you need a hook to get you into the series. My main complaint was where the episode ended. My worst fear was if they just took the OVA's and liberally chopped them up without paying attention to pacing, which is what they appear to have done, some extra scenes would be enough to leave you wondering what'll happen next, instead we're left with a straight cut to the ED which I found more than a bit jarring.

Going to give it a few more episodes for a fair judgement but if it doesnt adapt to the format of a TV series, I've got little reason to watch it since I've already seen it.

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I feel that the RE Version will also fill in the massive plot gaps they made it the original OVA. They're pretty much making Unicorn in reverse. Normally they'd make the 'in-depth' Unicorn version first then give us Unicorn Lite(which is what the Original Uni seems to be). I think part of the reason they're doing this RE version to make for droppin the ball in the OVAs.(i think it was the fuck-up that was 4 or 5 that forced them to make 7) It would be nice if they RE versioned something like gundam wing or the first Gundam.
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Time for more UC 10/10 greatness! Not even mad to be rewatching Unicorn in a tv edition since it has improved animation, gawdly OP and ED plus taking into account how long the OVAs are and the episode count for RE:0096 we will get like 3 hours worth of new content
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So are they going to add more new content, and rearrange some scenes like they did with the beginning or they just going to cut the OVAs to fit into tv episodes?

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GhostofSide6 said:

Also, with this, we might actually finally get an HGUC Aqua GM.


That's a funny way of saying MG Jegan.
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Apr 3, 2016 4:13 PM

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I was pretty bored up until the last 5 minutes. I'll watch a few more episodes and give it a chance though.
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So are they going to add more new content, and rearrange some scenes like they did with the beginning or they just going to cut the OVAs to fit into tv episodes?

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That's a funny way of saying MG Jegan.
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Everyone is saying there is gonna be ~50 minutes of new content, but I haven't looked into it to confirm.
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I didn't like what I saw. The edits were bad, the start felt awkward and the way the episode ended was abrupt.
Other than the hand changes, what else was re-drawn?
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The start was... yeah, sure.

OP was cool but spoilerish, and the ending of the episode wasn't so good.
But I haven't rewatched Unicorn lateyl so I guess I'll stick with this.
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Looks like ill just have to check up on this if anything note worthy happens OP is amazing though.
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Lol could barely follow the first half of the episode... I have no idea what's going on but I enjoyed the Sawano. Nice hearing Destiny in the bgm track and a new version of Next 2 U! The OP is pretty good too.
Will give it another episode.
Apr 4, 2016 4:43 AM
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Pretty much the same with OVA. OP and ED are a big advert from sunrise. But still i will watched it, maybe they will stretch the battle scene
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I was pretty bored up until the last 5 minutes. I'll watch a few more episodes and give it a chance though.

I don't blame you. When I first watched Unicorn years ago, I fell asleep watching the first OVA and never continued. Last year, I started watching the series over, and despite the same feeling of being slightly bored in the beginning, the latter part of the series was great.
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