There's another full-blown 47 ep series between Zeta and CCA, but it's an unpopular entry that's slightly less crucial to the overall narrative.
Given the 'old' air dates and relatively high episode count, it's not surprising that many decide to bypass this the prelude altogether. You can definitely view Unicorn on its own. Just know that it's very much interconnected with these past entries, and is filled with direct references; including returning characters, so you'll definitely be missing the 'full picture.'
Do note that RE:0096 will presumably be essentially the same thing as the already completed OVA series. RE0096 might enhance, degrade, or simply be the same experience with a few add-ons - we don't truly know at the moment.
ZZ is also somewhat worth watching, although it features mostly different cast (and first half of the series is pretty bad, compared to Zeta but it gets better later), there are several references to that series present. Mostly it's related to Marida Cruz character.
Ckan said: There's another full-blown 47 ep series between Zeta and CCA, but it's an unpopular entry that's slightly less crucial to the overall narrative.
Slightly less crucial? Marida's background is presented in ZZ, also
the establishment of Neo Zeon is shown in that series
Yes, ZZ is kind of wacky at the beginning but it's still a part of Universal Century and has important characters from the previous series and the ones that appear in later entries.
Ckan said: There's another full-blown 47 ep series between Zeta and CCA, but it's an unpopular entry that's slightly less crucial to the overall narrative.
Slightly less crucial? Marida's background is presented in ZZ, also
the establishment of Neo Zeon is shown in that series
Yes, ZZ is kind of wacky at the beginning but it's still a part of Universal Century and has important characters from the previous series and the ones that appear in later entries.
Yes, slightly less crucial.
OP asked for 'prerequisites', and in the strictest sense there aren't any. But if one is willing to go for the barest minimum understanding pertaining to Unicorn, it's important to note how 0079, Zeta, and CCA are explicitly interlinked; moreso than ZZ is. (
Most crucially, they contain the thread of Amuro and Char's rivalry, as well as the major events dealing with Zeon, Mineva, and the Zabis.
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Marida is certainly an important character, but she is far less crucial when it comes to understanding Unicorn's essence and main story.
Yes, ZZ continues directly on from Zeta and features many returning characters, but what impact does it have on an overall understanding of those characters, Unicorn, and UC? A relatively negligible one, and it arguably detracts in some ways.
As it portrays the events between Zeta and CCA, it is obviously a key part of the in-universe timeline. That it depicts the course of the Neo Zeon war, the ultimate fate of Argama's crew, Axis's defeat, and Haman's demise is certainly noteworthy for those coming from Zeta.
Yet to what extent do the events of ZZ impact on Unicorn? ZZ's depiction of the First Neo Zeon War is haphazard and indistinct. While there are some ties, (the presence of the Neo-Zeon African corps,) and one might be able to infer the larger story, (such as how the war may have affected the colonies and the Federation, and thus resulting in the events of CCA,) the actual portrayal of key events within ZZ itself, and their mentions within both CCA and Unicorn are essentially non-existent.
So for a completer picture of UC, it certainly has value, but hardly enough such that it becomes essential for understanding CCA or Unicorn, nor even as a closing act to Zeta.
As the main cast is almost entirely unique to the show, there are only a few returning characters of note.
1. Marida
Certainly, ZZ adds a lot to her character, and as an aside, it reinforces the image of Cyber-Newtypes and introduces the cloning element to Gundam. The implications of Marida's origins, and her being a Puru make her character all the more in Unicorn. But these aren't nearly as essential to the plot as Full Frontal and Mineva's legacies.
Marida's place in the story is cursory enough that what's provided in Unicorn can suffice. Missing out on her character is indeed the greatest loss in skipping ZZ, but it is not a crippling one in comparison with the three other entries.
2. Bright
I doubt many would argue that his oft ineffectual leadership and diminished presence in ZZ are particularly worthwhile to the franchise.
3. Sayla
Boils down to a tiny cameo that is admittedly probably the most explicit foreshadowing of CCA.
4. Mineva
Not even her.
Lastly, on a thematic level, ZZ has little major to add to the Newtype and Colony narrative that isn't already covered within Zeta and CCA.
So, is the gain worth going through the 47 episodes? I don't think so. At least not for those simply gunning for a reasonably intact viewing of the much abuzz Unicorn.
Don't mistake me, I'm not dismissing ZZ itself, as it's undeniably a core entry of the UC timeline; flaws and all. But when push comes to shove, the scales don't fall in ZZ's favour.
Now, if the question here was "how to watch Universal Century", "getting the most out of Gundam", or some such, then certainly, ZZ's value rises correspondingly.
the establishment of Neo Zeon is shown in that series
No it wasnt, the neo zeon was established in the final stretch of zeta gundam and even then CCA which comes afterwords is the one that truly wraps up that plotline anyway so ZZ ultimately is pretty skippable in the end
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,
tokiyashiro said:
Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me
ExoticBankai said: I've seen gundam 79 and zeta, also Iron-Blooded Orphans that isn't related to any other, i think it should be enough to watch this one ?
You might want to consider watching ZZ or at least CCA before it.
ExoticBankai said: I've seen gundam 79 and zeta, also Iron-Blooded Orphans that isn't related to any other, i think it should be enough to watch this one ?
You might want to consider watching ZZ or at least CCA before it.
I don't really have the time so i'll try it and if i see i don't get what's going on i'll just put it on-hold, thanks for the suggestion !
ExoticBankai said: I've seen gundam 79 and zeta, also Iron-Blooded Orphans that isn't related to any other, i think it should be enough to watch this one ?
You might want to consider watching ZZ or at least CCA before it.
I don't really have the time so i'll try it and if i see i don't get what's going on i'll just put it on-hold, thanks for the suggestion !
dont bother to watch ZZ cause its frankly pretty bad and while deifnetly having its placement in unicorn isnt that important all things considered, just watch CCA, its only a movie but its the most important once to unicorn and then your basically set for everything in unicorn.
Seriously its just a movie and unicorn spoils it theres no reason to skip it especially when your about to start watching something way longer.
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,
tokiyashiro said:
Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me
ExoticBankai said: I've seen gundam 79 and zeta, also Iron-Blooded Orphans that isn't related to any other, i think it should be enough to watch this one ?
You might want to consider watching ZZ or at least CCA before it.
I don't really have the time so i'll try it and if i see i don't get what's going on i'll just put it on-hold, thanks for the suggestion !
dont bother to watch ZZ cause its frankly pretty bad and while deifnetly having its placement in unicorn isnt that important all things considered, just watch CCA, its only a movie but its the most important once to unicorn and then your basically set for everything in unicorn.
Seriously its just a movie and unicorn spoils it theres no reason to skip it especially when your about to start watching something way longer.
Yeah your right i'll watch the movie, i was trying to watch gundam in the order that it aired but can't be helped, thanks again for the help !
There's another full-blown 47 ep series between Zeta and CCA, but it's an unpopular entry that's slightly less crucial to the overall narrative.
Given the 'old' air dates and relatively high episode count, it's not surprising that many decide to bypass this the prelude altogether. You can definitely view Unicorn on its own. Just know that it's very much interconnected with these past entries, and is filled with direct references; including returning characters, so you'll definitely be missing the 'full picture.'
Do note that RE:0096 will presumably be essentially the same thing as the already completed OVA series. RE0096 might enhance, degrade, or simply be the same experience with a few add-ons - we don't truly know at the moment.
I completely agree with this poster. I tried watching unicorn OVAs by itself long ago. I dropped after 3rd OVA because I wasn't enjoying it. Few years later when the OVA was complete, I decided to watch 0079, zeta and CCA and finally unicorn. This time it was it felt like an epic final chapter of amuro/char's saga.
I wanna watch Unicorn, but I know I won't be able to handle those ancient long tv series (no offense, old school is just not my cup of tea), but I was spoiled on major plot points from them long before now anyway and will try to watch CCA as one of the posters above recommended since it's just a movie and I should be able to handle 2 hours of old school animation.
CG said: I wanna watch Unicorn, but I know I won't be able to handle those ancient long tv series (no offense, old school is just not my cup of tea), but I was spoiled on major plot points from them long before now anyway and will try to watch CCA as one of the posters above recommended since it's just a movie and I should be able to handle 2 hours of old school animation.
So far as CCA goes, I hope you'll be able to appreciate how goddamned fantastic 'old school animation' looks.
It's just too bad the film's a rather horrible place for a new guy to be dropping into - even fans have issues with it aplenty.
CG said: I wanna watch Unicorn, but I know I won't be able to handle those ancient long tv series (no offense, old school is just not my cup of tea), but I was spoiled on major plot points from them long before now anyway and will try to watch CCA as one of the posters above recommended since it's just a movie and I should be able to handle 2 hours of old school animation.
So far as CCA goes, I hope you'll be able to appreciate how goddamned fantastic 'old school animation' looks.
It's just too bad the film's a rather horrible place for a new guy to be dropping into - even fans have issues with it aplenty.
i bet he will be disappointed coz you said old school animation is 'fantastic'.
just watch and enjoy, and be prepared coz the animation isnt that cool compare to current animation
ZZ Gundam is pretty much necessary for Unicorn, since most of the good in Unicorn was related to ZZ. Marida Cruz is pretty much the only worth character in Unicorn, and she's connected to ZZ (makes her more interesting).
Other than that, Unicorn is not worth watching if you don't care about UC fanservice. Main characters are pretty bad, almost Seed Destiny level, and the plot is pretty ridiculous, especially the final twist. Marida Cruz and some other ZZ fanservice moments were the only things worth in the OVA, so you're losing a lot by skipping ZZ, which was okay. It had a rough start with weird Tomino comedy, but it gets back on tracks. Heck, ZZ has better characters and story than Unicorn, it's just the first 1/3rd that fucks it over and really leaves a bad taste.
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"
When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one
For the Union makes us strong
It more or less presumes knowledge of 0079, Zeta, and ZZ, and is a direct sequel to Char's Counterattack. You could probably follow the narrative well enough with a little background knowledge even without actually watching all of that, but you honestly won't get as much out of it if you don't.
Also, contrary to what some people have insinuated, the only reason Zeta isn't more skip-able than ZZ in relation to Unicorn (which isn't to insinuate that either of them are particularly skip-able) is that ZZ is a direct continuation of Zeta and so itself makes no sense if you haven't watched Zeta.
Damn I don't feel like watching anything before this and they're not even so great, I think they should reboot this franchise for younger audience cuz older series just doesn't live up anymore.
i personally never watched the full original 0079 TV series, I saw first two movies, but i have the entire The Origins Comic series. SO I am more than covered on the original plot line.
It is not easy for many with little idea on the political setup and past rivalry of both sides to get some of the minor plot details and get less impact on the fate of characters and events. Such as where the back plot with Marida, audience have not watched or known about ZZ storyline will scratch their heads over who the heck is Ple and what was that damaged MS made her crazy. Knowing what happen gives more depth and impact to her character arc over all.
The repeat footage use of the Char's counter attack also key to unlock what may or may not be the real Char with the Full Frontal guy.
The 0083 series has dealt with the back ground on the AE military enterprise as well as why Zeon troops still remain on earth.. so watching those gets one some idea on why things happen the way they happen with old MS worthy of museum put to use.
Then bulk of Z and ZZ and Chars counter attack are required to enjoy the various fan service MS popping up here and there as excuse to sell kits.
Dizzee said: Damn I don't feel like watching anything before this and they're not even so great, I think they should reboot this franchise for younger audience cuz older series just doesn't live up anymore.
on its own, it is not a bad stand alone, the exploration on the meaning of war, hate, revenge, meaning of life and meaning as a solider are very, very good and deep, just audience have not seen the stories from 0079 - 0092 would not get the many deeper meaning on what unfolds, especially when they start dealing with the super natural new type abilities which even long time fan like me find it too much to handle.
really i guess even the original creator cant handle those lol