| I really liked Psycho-Pass, although I felt they had a great universe to explore and sadly they decided to focus only on police drama and everyone that questioned the system was a sick psychopath... but Makishima was a great character anyway, and the series was very well written. Psycho-Pass 2 attempts on getting philosophical and logical are laughable, especially the logic part, it's just all dumb... somehow the so smart Tsunemori start from totally wrong assumptions the character would never had, stuff like "Sibyl is perfect" (and to maintain such perfection... and all that stupid talk about omnipotence paradox) wut??? Sibyl from the start said it was looking for improvement, evolution, that's kinda the opposite of perfection. Sibyl never saw itself as perfect as Tsunemori stated, and she wasn't dumb enough to think such things... What about the "to judge Kamui - the 'collective being' - Sibyl would have to be judged too"... this makes no sense at all! Let's say the guy is a collective being and so on, Sibyl stills the one to unlock or not the trigger, it's stated that Sibyl is manually making the judgments (they talk about delays to get psycho pass results, it's only automatic using the guns 'cause they have priority on the request), why would it shot itself? And a bigger problem is, Sibyl can't be judged not because it's a "collective being", but because everyone there is asymptomatic, even if it could be "judged" they are still asymptomatic. 184 corpse on that guy... that's just... argh... was the guy even alive or was he just a piece of minced meat on the ground? Why 184 corpses? It looks like there is no legal issues to be resolved so you can just gather pieces of corpses on the ground to use as you wish, so apparently in this world dead bodies belong to the State, that would lead us to assume they have corpses to use for transplants and stuff - although mechanical parts seemed pretty common... well... I can't see any logical explanation to use parts from 184 differents -totally destroyed- corpses to sew up some boy, it would be easier to get what was left of him and put on some more complete dead body... To say he became some kind of collective being you have to add some spiritual and religious stuff, say he had the souls of all those people, otherwise it wouldn't make sense as no scan checked DNA or any individuality, they just checked some kind of brain wave's lenght, or maybe some kind of kirlian photography, not the person identity - and that's why those helmets from first season worked. Did you notice that the thing about the holograms was so so so bad that even the writters gave up on that? No explanation why so many people looked like the ones that died in the airplane accident... people that look like that for years and years so they weren't wearing any hologram - and no explanation why even the first victims on the drug store look like the dead kids. How there was a big wide and open entrance from the subway to the most secret and protected place in the whole country? On the first season they were extremelly meticulous about investigation and intuition was a big taboo, you couldn't act based on assumptions... but on Psycho-Pass 2 they are just like "hey, check this out, this guy went to same school as Kamui 20 years ago, several other people also did, but screw that, let's arrest that guy for no reason at all, I just feel like it" The message left on Tsunemoris apartment.. let's say it was Kamui cause he could get there "undetected", he may be invisible to the scans but not for the cams! Somehow they trust only scans - even knowing the guy isn't invisible - and don't waste time checking cam images... There are several other part that are just stupid - like Sibyl couldn't do anything to prevent the stolen gun from being use, as a detective that ran away and is cooperating with a criminal is not enough to deny access... and even so, Sibyl could make arbitrary rules as much as it want, it did it two times for Tsunemori in the end of the first season... Anyway, Psycho-Pass is awesome, but Psycho-Pass 2 is an abomination, more than that, it felt like an insult. |
PxHCOct 25, 2018 12:25 PM
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| I agree 100 % But sadly season 2 exists and there is nothing we can do about it |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| it was not that bad i feel like most the fans were just mad that kougami Shinya is not in it i honestly enjoyed season 2 |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
| I'm glad Kougami was spared from second season... And he was on the movie and it was really good, I just didn't like Tsunemori's last speech as it had nothing to do with her, by the end of Psycho Pass she shows herself as a total machiavellian, not only using Sibyl to achieve her goals, but also even while disliking Sibyl, saying that it is a necessary evil to maintain social order... but suddenly, for a totally destroyed society, she gets all idealistic and say Sibyl is not necessary and that corrupt and evil politicians are a better choice for the sake of democracy... it's really inconsistent... or maybe it's easir playing the idealist on other people's house... 'cause in Japan, knowing everything about Sibyl, she doesn't move a finger against it... |
PxHCOct 25, 2018 12:27 PM
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pirahc said: I'm glad Kougami was spared from second season... And he was on the movie and it was really good, I just didn't like Tsunemori's last speech as it had nothing to do with her, by the end of Psycho Pass she shows herself as a total machiavellian, not only using Sibyl to achieve her goals, but also even while disliking Sibyl, saying that it is a necessary evil to maintain social order... but suddenly, for a totally destroyed society, she gets all idealist and say Sibyl is not necessary and that corrupt and evil politicians are a better choice for the sake of democracy... it's really inconsistent... or maybe it's easir playing the idealist on other people house... cause in Japan, knowing everything about Sibyl, she doesnt move a finger against it... The movie was also pretty bad Basically the hole plot was sibyl trolling akane so she would go on pointless missions |
gabrielrroiz said: The movie was also pretty bad Basically the hole plot was sibyl trolling akane so she would go on pointless missions Was it Sibyl that showed that Kougami was there? I don't remember... |
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| LOL just rewatched some parts... Sibyl didn't use Tsunemori as an excuse to take over the country, it already had all control... the thing was all pointless :P |
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| the reason they never used cam is probably because they could all be edited remember they never caught sogo on camera before they had to use akanes memories also there are holo suits that could be used as a way to hide there identity remember |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
| It is a filler, so that is fine. |
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hazerddex said: the reason they never used cam is probably because they could all be edited remember they never caught sogo on camera before they had to use akanes memories also there are holo suits that could be used as a way to hide there identity remember They never caught Makishima 'cause he was smart and always avoided cams - and the only one that knew how he looked like died. He deleted the school recordings but he was directly connected to their server and even so they could see the files were deleted. Kamui wasn't any hacker genious either, so probably to delete her building recording he would have to get to where it's stored, having more chances to have an eye witness, and probably would left traces that the files were deleted/replaced too... but that's not even the problem, we are not talking about private cams of a building, but street scans owned by the police, and the scans records the image too, it may not have recognized anyone walking by it, but it was on the image, like when you're using a face recognition software and it doesn't see your face, the software may say no one is there, but you are still on the image... and they never bothered checking anything like that. |
PxHCOct 25, 2018 12:28 PM
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JeffreyZin said: What the fuck am I reading this... Geez, you guys are really trying to hurt my feelings. I mean I still don't understand why people still hated over the sequel of PP. In fact, there are so many loose ends as seen in season 1. well it basically was a side story that did not add nothing to the franchyse and even ruined some of the logic of the series(the game when people where controlling real machines was ridiculous) |
| Can you people list loose ends or just bad stuff about season 1? One thing that really bugs me is that the police had no means at all to deal with asymptomatic people, specialy when Sibyl knew that they existed... but then I thought: Maybe police is extremely inneficient against asymptomatics on purpose, 'cause that way it's easier for them to wreak havoc, to discover more weakness in the system and have a more diverse experience, that way they will add much more to Sibyl when they are assimilated. Other thing is the extreme inefficiency of the guns (and inefficient design too)... a society so worried about mental health, where people can be labaled as latent criminals just for being under too much stress, why the hell the police have to deal with so much shit as to see people exploding? It makes no sense at all.. and it not even have a 100% kill rate (there is that guy that just his arm exploded). I'm sure they would have enough technology to create a more potent stun that could kill without all the bloody gore thing and having 100% kill rate. |
PxHCOct 25, 2018 12:30 PM
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| But it also has flaws |
| bruh |
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