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Nov 27, 2009 5:48 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Serious development between Ken and Chizuru....It looks like Aka-chan gets jealous over Ken holding Chizuru's hand. Chizuru's deathnote thing is back eating a apple like people said before and did Minatsu take a look at the deathnote book? Don't you die if you do that? Things really got serious in the begining and at the end but how far is to where Chizuru had to go? She took a bus to there....Aka-chan was cute in the red hiding hood dress reading the story. Anyone know what was that manga Minatsu was reading? Looks like Mafuyu is back to her BL things. Who in the world is the Daniel guy with the USA flag....insult to USA for eating like pigs? I will assume that Chizuru used to be a person that liked painting in middle school/her previous school and that girl Kanade threw things that Chizuru gave to her? Absolutely adored Chizuru's old school uniform and Chizuru making a peace sign though it was one until Proselyt told me XD. Also funny how everyone got under the table with just one teacher expression. My favorite was Chizuru's gentle/loving side she can have with Ken and he is so lucky. Ken's head on Chizuru's head....so nice and also the hand shake was great! Hand shake....Aka-chan is jealous :P =>
This was great part of Mafuyu....Loli love VS Boy love. I want to add that Mafuyu's expressions were a favorite around there to me=.
BTW what is up with Daniel and this:
some insult to USA?
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Nov 28, 2009 1:29 AM
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This episode wasn't very special. Either i'm blind and didn't get the references or they were very scarce this time around. Death Note was obvious, but it just isn't that funny the second time.
francismeunier said:
Chizuru's deathnote thing is back eating a apple like people said before and did Minatsu take a look at the deathnote book? Don't you die if you do that?
No something different happens. Do watch Death Note.
francismeunier said:
I will assume that Chizuru used to be a person that liked painting in middle school/her previous school and that girl Kanade threw things that Chizuru gave to her?
I will assume that she was bullied in middle school.
francismeunier said:
Absolutely adored Chizuru's old school uniform and Chizuru making a peace sign.
So in France you make the piece sign with three fingers?
Good to know.

I don't think that portraying the people of the United States as they are (fatty Daniel) can be considered an insult - it's a fact.
Nov 28, 2009 2:55 AM
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Proselyt said:
This episode wasn't very special. Either i'm blind and didn't get the references or they were very scarce this time around. Death Note was obvious, but it just isn't that funny the second time.

I hear you but it was funny to me...maybe because I did not see it yet.
francismeunier said:
Chizuru's deathnote thing is back eating a apple like people said before and did Minatsu take a look at the deathnote book? Don't you die if you do that?
Proselyt said:
No something different happens. Do watch Death Note.
Spoil me then.....
francismeunier said:
I will assume that Chizuru used to be a person that liked painting in middle school/her previous school and that girl Kanade threw things that Chizuru gave to her?
Proselyt said:
I will assume that she was bullied in middle school.

She was? Poor Chizuru bullying is so bad everywhere....
francismeunier said:
Absolutely adored Chizuru's old school uniform and Chizuru making a peace sign.
Proselyt said:
So in France you make the piece sign with three fingers?
Good to know.
No but it must be Chizuru's way of doing it...at least it looked like a peace sign.

Proselyt said:
I don't think that portraying the people of the United States as they are (fatty Daniel) can be considered an insult - it's a fact.
I don't think all from the USA here on MAL will like this part even as a fact.

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Nov 28, 2009 4:32 AM
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francismeunier said:
No but it must be Chizuru's way of doing it...at least it looked like a peace sign.
No it isn't she says it herself; it's a sign meaning: "it ends with today" or similar. Japanese people somehow have a lot of hand signs (like extending only the little finger meaning anything related to women and so on), but this one is so new to me i think she definitely made it up that moment.
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Proselyt said:
No something different happens. Do watch Death Note.
Spoil me then.....
When you touch it, you will see what is eating the apple (Shinigami), but do watch the anime anyway.
francismeunier said:
Proselyt said:
I don't think that portraying the people of the United States as they are (fatty Daniel) can be considered an insult - it's a fact.
I don't think all from the USA here on MAL will like this part even as a fact.
Yes it's a bitter pill to swallow and seeing they can't even get healthcare passed i assume most Americans are not used to swallowing pills of any kind. It's hard.
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Proselyt said:
francismeunier said:
No but it must be Chizuru's way of doing it...at least it looked like a peace sign.
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No it isn't she says it herself; it's a sign meaning: "it ends with today" or similar. Japanese people somehow have a lot of hand signs (like extending only the little finger meaning anything related to women and so on), but this one is so new to me i think she definitely made it up that moment.

So did she invent it or it actually exists in the world?
francismeunier said:
Proselyt said:
No something different happens. Do watch Death Note.
Spoil me then.....
Proselyt said:
When you touch it, you will see what is eating the apple (Shinigami), but do watch the anime anyway.
Guess that was not shown properly.....
francismeunier said:
Proselyt said:
I don't think that portraying the people of the United States as they are (fatty Daniel) can be considered an insult - it's a fact.
I don't think all from the USA here on MAL will like this part even as a fact.
Proselyt said:
Yes it's a bitter pill to swallow and seeing they can't even get healthcare passed i assume most Americans are not used to swallowing pills of any kind. It's hard.
Yes it is and I agree with that.

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Nov 29, 2009 8:05 PM
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It's sad seeing this show becoming more boring one episode after the other... somehow I just don't really care about anyones backstories (mostly cos they aren't portrayed well). I wish they just stayed on comedy, it would make the series far better >:

@ francismeunier
The manga Minatsu was reading reminds me a bit of Bleach with different outfits.
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It's sad seeing this show becoming more boring one episode after the other... somehow I just don't really care about anyones backstories (mostly cos they aren't portrayed well). I wish they just stayed on comedy, it would make the series far better >:

@ francismeunier
The manga Minatsu was reading reminds me a bit of Bleach with different outfits.

Interesting SunyiNyufi, thank you.

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Dec 2, 2009 2:23 AM
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My eyes are burning from the tl;dr posts present.

Anyways, I always enjoy episodes that have minimal contact with Ken, so a yay week for me. I'm just going to take a wild guess and say we won't see Kanade again, but I'd love to see more of her; I like those kinds of girls.
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This episode had tons of funny moments. I like how the choice of books fit each girl's personality. The Death Note reference was quite obvious and one I could see coming a mile away (though it doesn't make it any less funny).

And I'm tempted to think that Ken doesn't really have to try much harder to win over Kurimu. With the jealous fits she's been displaying in the past episodes, I think it's becoming quite clear that she actually likes him, but doesn't want to admit it. Then again, I think that goes for the rest as well; they just do a (slightly) better job at hiding it.

Interesting development on Chizuru's side.
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Even though I love Death Note to death, using a joke twice is just fail.
And I don't like people over analyzing a show that holds no depth whatsoever in the first place.
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haha.. this episode is the weakest in terms of jokes and references (some of them recycled) but it's nice to see chizuru development and the girls becoming more obvious that they are jealous.. mafuyu made me laugh again with her female otaku vs male otaku fight with ken.. and lol at the kanji quiz while the preview was running (Echo of Death, Railgun, Blacksmith, Seitokai).. haha.. fall season..

desolato said:
And I don't like people over analyzing a show that holds no depth whatsoever in the first place.
well.. that's what happens when certain people watch it raw when they did not understand 100% of it..
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OH NO THEY DIDN'TTTT!!
Dec 2, 2009 4:44 AM

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desolato said:
OH NO THEY DIDN'TTTT!!

It looks like it but I did not see this anime.
desolato said:
Even though I love Death Note to death, using a joke twice is just fail.
And I don't like people over analyzing a show that holds no depth whatsoever in the first place.
Please don't tell me I did that.....I am just curious, I decided to only say what I liked/did not like or ask some things I was confused about nothing more. I like to analyze with people but not to make people angry at me.

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desolato said:
OH NO THEY DIDN'TTTT!!
No they didn't - you altered the screenshot. It's like this:

Though Yomi and Chizuru are very similar.
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desolato said:
And I don't like people over analyzing a show that holds no depth whatsoever in the first place.
well.. that's what happens when certain people watch it raw when they did not understand 100% of it..
I have no idea to whom you may refer.
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desolato said:
OH NO THEY DIDN'TTTT!!
OMG!! I SHAT BRICKS!! haha.. Ga-Rei-Zero FTW!

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argilium said:
desolato said:
And I don't like people over analyzing a show that holds no depth whatsoever in the first place.
well.. that's what happens when certain people watch it raw when they did not understand 100% of it..
I have no idea to whom you may refer.
i think i meant francis in this specific case.. but generally, i see other people doing it in other episode forums.. i, myself, do it sometimes..

francis, it's a good thing you have this forum.. as an anime beginner, it's hard to survive the number of anime references in this show..
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Well that's certainly Chizuru's flag there..yeah that comic is Bleach
And why Ken is calling who i presume Chizuru "senpai"? she is 2nd year the same as Ken right? am i missing something?
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At first glance, the comic Minatsu is reading looks like a reference to Bleach. But I think it's reference to other mangas as well. Yeah the big guy is Chad from Bleach. The guy in the middle looks like the hero from Psyren manga, Yoshina Ageha. The glasses-wearing guy at the right looks like one of the characters from the manga Code:Breaker, Heike. Don't know who the other two are.

I read some mangas so thats what I thought. Please correct me if Im wrong :D
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Really boring compared to the previous episode. I started watching this anime for random jokes, like Lucky Star. Not for... a story!
I want it to be like the first episode again. ;___;
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Really boring compared to the previous episode. I started watching this anime for random jokes, like Lucky Star. Not for... a story!
I want it to be like the first episode again. ;___;


This anime will truly be a failure if there is no story. This show is better than Lucky Star in that respect.

Go Chizuru!!
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I want to know something based on a pic of mine....the one not spoilered is that....Ken when he just broke up with those 2 girls or related to that event. If so then Chizuru knew about all this affair. Seriously Kanade must be really selfish to do this to Chizuru....I guess after the subs I can safely say that I am glad again for the hand shake, for Chizuru of taking care of Ken at his most needed time when his heart suffered emotionally and that the council helped her problems of the past. +5 for Chizuru, this episode made it that much higher for me towards her. You can say a 50% increase for me liking her more than before.

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i really want to know kens backstory. this show is really great
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rreggiebryant1 said:
i really want to know kens backstory. this show is really great
Same here and that of Kurimu...only ones missing right?

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Looks like they are trying to add some more seriousness to the show, regarding the beginning (wonder what scar Ken have?) and Akaba's earlier school days. I really didn't expect her to be a person to have been bullied.

Mafuyu's part where she complained that Ken didn't work on her route enough and that he should ask her properly about her book interest was hands down the most hilarious part though xD
Especially when they started to argue which of their preferences was most "normal" =P


With all girls being in love with him though I wonder who he is going to end up with, since Ken seems to jump with his choices between them all and his harem ending from episode to episode.
My guess would be Kurimu since she's always had one of the bigger roles and we don't yet know her full back story, saving the best for last kind of thing.

But the 'perfect' ending is where he gets them all and continue to live happily ever after =D
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But the 'perfect' ending is where he gets them all and continue to live happily ever after =D

our hopes lie in these words , every girl has become to special to be left out , wonder if it ends horible...
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Great episode, I loved it how the funny and the serious parts were combined!^^
The hand-shake fortune-telling was somehow heart-warming^^ This episode showed a complete new and nice side of Chizuru (besides her sadistic and Mokyu~sides xD )
I lol'd at Kimuru's "stare"-comment XD
I don't know if I'm write, but it seems to me that the very beginning of this episode is chronologically after this episode. If it's true, I hope that will be included detailfully if the next episode^^

Just 4 episodes left... :'-(
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mrmuk said:
I don't know if I'm write, but it seems to me that the very beginning of this episode is chronologically after this episode.

I don't think so...I think it's implied that the beginning scene was the first time Chizuru ever called Ken "Key-kun."
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minatsu pushed aka-chan at the end!
= jealous minatsu?
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asdf1248 said:
mrmuk said:
I don't know if I'm write, but it seems to me that the very beginning of this episode is chronologically after this episode.

I don't think so...I think it's implied that the beginning scene was the first time Chizuru ever called Ken "Key-kun."


either way, this needs to be explained better

as for the rest of the episode I thought the jokes were good, but the serious stuff is not what I watch the show for.
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meh this ep was ok....Mafuyu's scene was the best one though

http://gamesmind.wordpress.com/2009/12/02/seitokai-no-ichizon-09-evil-books/ my entry on it
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Character development is always welcomed :)

Now I'm very curious hmm...
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I definitely want to know more about Ken...hopefully they do a good job with whatever backstory (or new story) is made regarding Ken.
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I'm interested in Ken's story as well. I also wonder about the two-timing incident, because it doesn't seem as if he was dumped because of it, more like the other way around. Maybe he noticed it and let them go before he actually hurt them. Chizuru's been a favourite character for a while, and she just got even more of my respect after this episode.
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Hmm. First time I see SS-Eclipse make a typo.

francismeunier said:
Who in the world is the Daniel guy with the USA flag....insult to USA for eating like pigs?

Hmm. I didn't think about that. Now that joke seems funnier.

francismeunier said:
Proselyt said:
When you touch it, you will see what is eating the apple (Shinigami), but do watch the anime anyway.
Guess that was not shown properly.....

Cause it's a reference. It's not aimed at people who does not know about that anime.

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haha.. this episode is the weakest in terms of jokes and references (some of them recycled) but it's nice to see chizuru development and the girls becoming more obvious that they are jealous.. mafuyu made me laugh again with her female otaku vs male otaku fight with ken.. and lol at the kanji quiz while the preview was running (Echo of Death, Railgun, Blacksmith, Seitokai).. haha.. fall season.

Yeah the extra Mafuyu screen time was nice. She knows she lacks screen time and forced more into this episode lol.

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desolato said:
And I don't like people over analyzing a show that holds no depth whatsoever in the first place.
well.. that's what happens when certain people watch it raw when they did not understand 100% of it..

Yeah... always happens...
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I've always hated it when Seitokai no Ichizon becomes of a serious anime, especially one revolving around Sugisaki, but Chizuru's backstory didn't irritate me at all. Maybe because it didn't end with a sad ending, it ended with the pres falling over. lol.

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Chizuru's best episode, more feeling developing, the harem end is near!

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minatsu pushed aka-chan at the end!
= jealous minatsu?


How do you noe its Minatsu? Why not Mafuyu or Aka herself o_o

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GDODAMNSHIT, where's the loli?!!! I need MOAR loli, this show feels so hollow without that loli...;(

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nerdzo said:
minatsu pushed aka-chan at the end!
= jealous minatsu?


How do you noe its Minatsu? Why not Mafuyu or Aka herself o_o


Okay, how about ALL of them? Even my cat and Echo of Death and BitchMaster itself all jealous like a KittyCat... Happy?



If he's not with us, he's AGAINST us!!!

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desolato said:
OH NO THEY DIDN'TTTT!!


hahaha cant believe you actually noticed that lol, i love ga rei they should turn the manga into an anime

i loved this episode btw, gave the series alil bit of "story development"
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another death note reference. but whats up with chizuru and ken at the beginning of the episode?
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another death note reference. but whats up with chizuru and ken at the beginning of the episode?

Thank god someone brought that up. This isn't the first time something like this has happened. A few episodes back, Ken had a similar "flashback" with a conversation between himself and Minatsu, but he didn't seem to acknowledge it like he did this time. Now that he has, however, his reaction was quite odd, he seemed...surprised. Did he somehow forget? It's making me very curious. Could he have encountered each of the girls before joining the student council and somehow forgot about it?

(The scene with Minatsu I'm referring to is in Episode 6, by the way.)
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bleachh style?????


awwwwww
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Another good episode, it's great to see an underlying plot in addition to the comedic genius. It seems that Ken had a down time the previous school year where he maybe hit rock bottom. It seems that he was insecure and wanted to be like Minatsu.(ep 6 flashback) In ep 8, he has a brief flashback where he meets Kurimu to cheer him up. This episode, it shows him being comforted by Chizuru. It seems that Ken has some history with all of them, which pushed him to get his life on track and aim for the Student Council. Maybe Mafuyu will be next.
The series is great so far, and I really liked how they ended up naming other animes airing at the same time during the end of the show :)
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Another good episode, it's great to see an underlying plot in addition to the comedic genius. It seems that Ken had a down time the previous school year where he maybe hit rock bottom. It seems that he was insecure and wanted to be like Minatsu.(ep 6 flashback) In ep 8, he has a brief flashback where he meets Kurimu to cheer him up. This episode, it shows him being comforted by Chizuru. It seems that Ken has some history with all of them, which pushed him to get his life on track and aim for the Student Council. Maybe Mafuyu will be next.
The series is great so far, and I really liked how they ended up naming other animes airing at the same time during the end of the show :)

No Mafuyu and Minatsu already had a past story....we need Ken and Kurimu pasts badly...want to know about them more.

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Kinda touching episode. It was great. Kurimu was so cute and childish again and Chizuru cute, and well scary as always xD



And then there was that yuri letter... XD

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And then there was that yuri letter... XD

Absolutely delicious to all fan service male lovers. Well done too, yes definitely.

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toragon said:

And then there was that yuri letter... XD

Absolutely delicious to all fan service male lovers. Well done too, yes definitely.

Yeah it was a very nice image indeed (^_^)
Though it was definitely needed to balance out all Mafuyu's BL :P
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If the producer decides to explain about "kens scar" I'd say 20$ on the cheating thing, well, the reason he cheated in the first place is probably the scar.

I enjoyed the episode, since there isn't any real plot, i just watch it and like it, in that aspect, it's kinda like to heart, not much story, just enjoyable. As for reference anime goes, I'd say this is kicking the living daylight out of Lucky star for now.
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This episode wasnt that bad, well there was some development between ak-chan and ken, and also this episode was more focused on her.
i liked that handshake fortune telling ^^
pres getting jealous well apparently.
but still no plot going on
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I liked the handshake fortune telling too. First time Kurimu jumped in and second time Minatsu pushed Kurimu. I think if we get a conclusion to Ken's harem ist will Kurimu or Minatsu.
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EternalDreamer said:
francismeunier said:
toragon said:

And then there was that yuri letter... XD

Absolutely delicious to all fan service male lovers. Well done too, yes definitely.

Yeah it was a very nice image indeed (^_^)
Though it was definitely needed to balance out all Mafuyu's BL :P

Oh please no BL my eyes will hurt and will have nightmares of Nagamegane or whatever is his name. I admit Mafuyu's reactions and hand/body movements were very good and the best I find around that time....it was fun the whole BL VS Loli thing. Took even a pic of it since it was a favorite of mine.

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