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Nov 21, 2013 9:01 PM
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Can't believe after all that attention whoring from Saki, no one really cares about her at this point.
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symbv said:
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So the leak in the last week of a screenshot of L-Elf holding Lieselotte's body is authentic after all !
You mean this? http://i.imgur.com/BR1qtLA.jpg
This is fanart, not a leak.
How are you so sure it is a fan art?
Because the artist posted it on her twitter.
http://twitter.com/ruro_/status/401606167727579136
Nov 21, 2013 9:10 PM

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Why?! why ?! Why?! Why ?!
Why did this have to happen ?!
It was a big shock, the battles were intense and all I wanted was to see my ship sail.
A-Drei always there at the good time ( found ya moment)
Q-Vier from Kajikaji saw and felt like a little bit of Kanato their ,crazy mode( at first I thought he would target Lieselotte ( good thing he didn't) but the thought killed me
L-Elf 's plan worked but those bullets scarred me my gosh I asked for those two to not die
T^T

Lisselotte and her past made me tear up,her memories, I am at least glad that she loved L-elf back the same way ,but the ending of the episode got me .
Nov 21, 2013 9:19 PM

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Wow Saki just can't catch a break at all in S2.
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Nov 21, 2013 9:27 PM

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I'm nearly forgot that in last season PV at the end of episode 12 Saki is meeting with Cain.
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Nov 21, 2013 9:29 PM

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windy said:
symbv said:
windy said:
symbv said:
So the leak in the last week of a screenshot of L-Elf holding Lieselotte's body is authentic after all !
You mean this? http://i.imgur.com/BR1qtLA.jpg
This is fanart, not a leak.
How are you so sure it is a fan art?
Because the artist posted it on her twitter.
http://twitter.com/ruro_/status/401606167727579136
Then I wonder how she knew how the story turned before the episode was aired.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Nov 21, 2013 9:29 PM

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R.I.P. Lisollette
so the Magius are all aliens then
Nov 21, 2013 9:44 PM

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symbv said:
Then I wonder how she knew how the story turned before the episode was aired.
What she drew didn't happen, though. Liese's death was hardly out of left field; someone thinking it was going to happen and drawing it doesn't mean they knew in advance (especially since she got it wrong).
She's just a very good artist who is extremely skilled at emulating the official art style.
Nov 21, 2013 10:41 PM
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What happened to Rukino?! Is she captured as we seen on preview (Is that her in the bodybag?!)?!
Nov 21, 2013 11:23 PM
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So predictable, Christ, Sunrise, can't you do something different.


Blame the script writer instead of the fucking company for fuck sakes.
Nov 21, 2013 11:38 PM

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So after rewatching, I wonder if there's anything more to the part where Unit 1 appears to be slitting its wrist to cool off its blade. I mean, this is coming from the same machine that commits seppuku routinely.

http://imgur.com/R3pxEP2

What is it with Unit 1 and suicide?
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BlueBusterJeff said:
What happened to Rukino?! Is she captured as we seen on preview (Is that her in the bodybag?!)?!


yup, pretty sure it's her, since it got boobs, and and it would make sense... It looks creepy

but seriously I don't like Saki very much, but still everyone is forgetting 'bout her and it's kinda sad
Nov 21, 2013 11:53 PM
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ex_necross said:
So after rewatching, I wonder if there's anything more to the part where Unit 1 appears to be slitting its wrist to cool off its blade. I mean, this is coming from the same machine that commits seppuku routinely.

What is it with Unit 1 and suicide?


To me it kinda reminds me more of that thing where the swordsman wipe the blood off his sword before putting it back in the sheath. Can't remember what anime or whatever but I know I've that type of thing before.
Nov 22, 2013 12:01 AM

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symbv said:
ThangLong said:
There goes our lovely couples. SUNRISE did it again ;_;
So the leak in the last week of a screenshot of L-Elf holding Lieselotte's body is authentic after all !


Actually, that wasn't a leaked screenshot at all, it was confirmed to be very good fanart.

ex_necross said:
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^ Liz said that they are spirits without physical appearances. When their ship crashed on Earth, they had to jack body of all living things including animals and humans to survive. So it can be inferred that Magius are gender-less. The situation of Pino and Prue is interesting though. I want to know why these two have a distinct physical body (even trapped in the engine).
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So you're making assumptions. All we know is that they are pseudo-immortal beings whom are capable of body-jacking, do not die of age, and feed off runes. We do not know how they reproduce, or if they reproduce at all. They could possibly reproduce as parasites, which would in turn give them a gender. To say they are genderless at this stage is not true.

We don't know.


Actually I think they do have genders. We've only seen males take control of males and females of females. Also, Prue and Pino who are confirmed Magius call themselves brother and sister which means there is definitely some distinction.

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Nov 22, 2013 12:43 AM

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Exblaster said:

To me it kinda reminds me more of that thing where the swordsman wipe the blood off his sword before putting it back in the sheath. Can't remember what anime or whatever but I know I've that type of thing before.


What you're referring to is called chiburi, and it does not involve slicing half way through your wrist like Unit-1 was doing...

Irenesharda said:


Actually I think they do have genders. We've only seen males take control of males and females of females. Also, Prue and Pino who are confirmed Magius call themselves brother and sister which means there is definitely some distinction.


I would agree that they have genders.
Nov 22, 2013 1:06 AM

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Man the way some of these scenes are directed and especially the delivery of the voice cast makes what could just kind of be pure cheese into some really edge of your seat stuff. This show really owes a lot to it's all star cast. I'm also feeling Kou Matsuo as a director for a sci-fi mecha series a lot more this season in general.

The scene of Lieselotte falling off the rocket kind of reminded me of the way Kai Shiden's doomed romantic interest Miharu Ratokie is killed off. Very similar kind of shot. Also the music choice for the final scene in Shi no Saki ni Aru Koto was spot on. That track in particular has been a favorite of mine since I got the soundtrack with it's somber string portions and variety. I kind of stand by my earlier claim now that Valvrave has the best soundtrack of anything airing this season, though I'm probably biased since this is my favorite Japanese composer really on his game.
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Nov 22, 2013 2:51 AM

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Wow... can't believe l-elf lost his loved one :(
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Nov 22, 2013 3:49 AM
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Wow... can't believe l-elf lost his loved one :(


NO shit. After L-elf reunites with Lisesotte then she died after that. You got to be fucking shitting me. Killing off a girl just like that.

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yup, pretty sure it's her, since it got boobs, and and it would make sense... It looks creepy

but seriously I don't like Saki very much, but still everyone is forgetting 'bout her and it's kinda sad


Yeah, but still NO one gives a shit about her. Even Haruto. are you shitting me?! This show is getting dumber & dumber!
Nov 22, 2013 3:55 AM
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Glad to hear I'm not the only one angry and extremely disappointed about Lisolette ;_;

Damn it. I've shipped them ever since they were first introduced in season one D':
Even though I knew the chance of my ship being sunk was 99.99% T_T

Not even one episode where they can happy together...
Nov 22, 2013 4:04 AM

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BlueBusterJeff said:
-Ariadne- said:
yup, pretty sure it's her, since it got boobs, and and it would make sense... It looks creepy

but seriously I don't like Saki very much, but still everyone is forgetting 'bout her and it's kinda sad


Yeah, but still NO one gives a shit about her. Even Haruto. are you shitting me?! This show is getting dumber & dumber!

The detailed plan for Saki's escape was written on L-elf note. They left Unit 4 to her as a vehicle to get back to the moon either with them or with the help of Dorssian royalist. It's not that they don't care, there's not enough time to go find her with Cain on their back. This plan by L-elf was very practical. It's just unfortunate that A-drei caught Saki in the act.i
Nov 22, 2013 4:24 AM

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The anime isn't even finished yet.

I think the time for anyone to get angry about plotholes is when the anime gets finished with still no explanations.

Also, goddamnit.
Liselotte is the most lovable girl in this anime so far (Far, far lovable than YOLO Shouko and HARUTO-PLS-R*PE-ME Saki). And she gets to die that quickly.
Nov 22, 2013 5:12 AM

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Lieselotte died for the sake of eruerufuu's chara development-
I mean it's nice seeing him filled with emotions that're rarely seen and seems that we'll get to see them more often after this??

also from the ED,
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L-Elf will move on and he will be stronger than before next episode.
Nov 22, 2013 5:33 AM

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Sad episode :( why did Lieselotte have to die? I came to like L-elf x Lieselotte ship but she die T.T its no more.

Then I feel sad about Saki, she has been left again without remembering her. How dare them. I hope she's not betray her friends, after all, in the preview of the season 2 showed Saki is with Cain.
"Anything is possible if you stop doubting yourself, so put some more faith unto you!"
Nov 22, 2013 6:13 AM

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Lieselotte's death will push L-elf to breaking point :( They didn't even show us what happen to Saki, I doubt she's back in the ship...most likely she is now captured >.<
Nov 22, 2013 8:00 AM
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Ok, so Lizzy is Maguise, and she's dead.

So what now for L-elf, will he desire for revenge or be devastated?
Nov 22, 2013 8:41 AM

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Lissorette !!!!!!!!!!!!!! T______________T
Nov 22, 2013 8:53 AM

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ex_necross said:
What you're referring to is called chiburi, and it does not involve slicing half way through your wrist like Unit-1 was doing...


Valvrave wiki says...
http://kakumeikivalvrave.wikia.com/wiki/Valvrave_I

Strike Brace

Mainly intended as a gauntlet-like defensive armament against fast-firing weapons, the Strike Brace (ストライク・ブレイス Sutoraiku Bureisu?) also functions as a cooling system for the Z-Edge.
Nov 22, 2013 9:07 AM
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Interesting revelation on the magius.
Nov 22, 2013 9:28 AM

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Now that saki is captured, does anyone think she might turn traitor? You can see her talking to Cain in the season preview.
Nov 22, 2013 9:43 AM

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ThangLong said:
The detailed plan for Saki's escape was written on L-elf note. They left Unit 4 to her as a vehicle to get back to the moon either with them or with the help of Dorssian royalist. It's not that they don't care, there's not enough time to go find her with Cain on their back. This plan by L-elf was very practical. It's just unfortunate that A-drei caught Saki in the act.i
You know, I really wonder whether a watcher could read everything in the instruction in real-time before it moves to the next scene... Come to think of it, I think the bodybag we see in the trailer may actually be a captured Saki - the bag is to prevent her from doing strange and wild acts (at least to those who are not Cain).

Watch the episode twice and I think it is also a pretty good episode. I like how the "perfect plans" coming up by none other than L-Elf fell apart everywhere: Lieselotte was not saved; Saki could not escape; the students were outguessed and outmaneuvered by Cain (which almost led to their certain defeat). Also like how Satomi has grown up to take lead (though only to a certain extent as he kept insisting on waiting for L-Elf's instruction lol).

And we got to know a lot more about Magius. That Lieselotte is a Magius is a bit of a surprise but now everything links together including those freaking green marks (so it is really an iron maiden she went inside after all! ).

Also we can see that the OS girl (Pico?) in Valvrave is not Magius because she does not recognize the life form Magius. So does it mean she is yet another alien life form captured and enclosed in Valvrave to do the donkey work? Why didn't Haruto's dad explain that as well in the previous episode?

I also love the depiction of Haruto when 1) he decided to save L-Elf and 2) asked Lieselotte not to think that she has no future with L-Elf -- it is so easy to see how he identifies it with his relationship with Shouko (unfortunately this is the only Shouko we see - the heroine is MIA in wait how many episodes so far?). It is just sad that despite this flag being set up, she just goes to die the next moment.

On the other hand, I am not sure what the purpose the knife fight serve in the story. Except to show us the crazy side of the kid and some cool sakuga, I don't see how the melee is necessary.

So now Lieselotte is gone - my guess of the pairings is now in tatters. So who are the ancestors of the prince we see 200 years later?
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Nov 22, 2013 10:10 AM

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DANG IT!

I wanna see more on Saki's part and how she's gonna escape but all we get is 2 minutes of Saki and A-Drei every single episode and stupid recaps of the last episode instead. I'm sorry but my mind works well enough to remember that L-Elf found Lizzy and don't need to see it again.
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Nov 22, 2013 10:33 AM

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Lieselotte!!!!!!!!!!! DX
Nov 22, 2013 2:33 PM

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Is it just me our is S2 much much better than S1 ?
I didn't like S1 but really enjoying and looking forward to each episode from S2

Nov 22, 2013 3:22 PM

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Damn episode was amusing in many ways, Liselotte reveals herself to be a Magius (also their motivation) and then saving everyone but lost in the sky, I don't know what to say in the last scene :( As for Saki, just about to escape and then being captured again. L Elf (or Michael) just being badass as usual until a sad moment in the end...

Nov 22, 2013 3:39 PM
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Yeah, but still NO one gives a shit about her. Even Haruto. are you shitting me?! This show is getting dumber & dumber!


No its not getting dumber... You're just very slow in the head.
Nov 22, 2013 7:53 PM

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First, it was space alien vampires. Now the bigger picture appears to actually involve a space alien infestation! What twist can they come up with next...

Irritainment at its finest, indeed. I guess that's the price L-Elf pays for being more super human than the actual super humans... the love interest he dodged countless bullets for and plotted to rescue for 10 years dies before he even gets to be with her for one full hour.

What a terrible waste of a character once again. Meh, gotten used to it.
Nov 22, 2013 11:32 PM

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Ahh, L-elf's hard work and blood loss were for nothing as Lieselotte dies :(
I thought Lieselotte would join their team. And so, what's left for L-elf to fight for?
Nov 23, 2013 2:10 AM

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NNNNOOOO! She can't die, L-elf will be heart and mind broken next episode if she is.

Great episode!!!
Nov 23, 2013 6:34 AM

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So... Saki was just left behind? Lol.
Nov 23, 2013 6:58 AM

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So... Saki was just left behind? Lol.
Yeah, pretty lame isn't it? :) there are so many people on board and no one could notice her disappearance :3
Nov 23, 2013 7:54 AM

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Ahh, L-elf's hard work and blood loss were for nothing as Lieselotte dies :(
I thought Lieselotte would join their team. And so, what's left for L-elf to fight for?


Revenge against Cain for killing his love('s body) .. Which never ends well.
Nov 23, 2013 10:36 AM

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So... Saki was just left behind? Lol.
Yeah, pretty lame isn't it? :) there are so many people on board and no one could notice her disappearance :3


They know she's left behind but have no idea where she is (though L-Elf managed to make sure Carmilla found it's way to her) or what they can possibly do about it right now. It is what it is, but lame isn't the word I'd used to describe it.
Nov 23, 2013 11:32 AM

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Kyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! OMG!!! I'm so happy that Haruto remembered Shouko :)) I really miss her -.- but oh no!!! :(( Poor L-elf. Poor Lieselotte :((
Nov 23, 2013 4:16 PM
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Does anyone else feel that shoko and rukino have downgraded to side characters? Especially shoko. The other pilots seem to have taken over "shoko time" and Rukino is less prominent in this season.
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Does anyone else feel that shoko and rukino have downgraded to side characters? Especially shoko. The other pilots seem to have taken over "shoko time" and Rukino is less prominent in this season.


there is just too many characters in valvrave thats why the lesser screen time of those 2
Nov 23, 2013 5:14 PM

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Well, Liselotte lasted so much ... And everyone forgot about Saki.

Btw, I don't like the new ending.
Nov 23, 2013 5:49 PM

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Saki gets her body back then we don't see her the rest of the episode!

L-Elf gets his girl, only to lose her (permanently). I think he should have been left behind though. It's kind of boring that he got picked up.
Nov 23, 2013 7:31 PM

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RIP Lieselotte
Nov 23, 2013 7:42 PM

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i hope rukino convinced a-drei to join on l-elf`s team,
Nov 23, 2013 8:44 PM

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holy shit!

what an amazing episode! I'm still mind blown...

I cried at the end. it's true.

edit...


symbv said:
ThangLong said:
The detailed plan for Saki's escape was written on L-elf note. They left Unit 4 to her as a vehicle to get back to the moon either with them or with the help of Dorssian royalist. It's not that they don't care, there's not enough time to go find her with Cain on their back. This plan by L-elf was very practical. It's just unfortunate that A-drei caught Saki in the act.i
You know, I really wonder whether a watcher could read everything in the instruction in real-time before it moves to the next scene... Come to think of it, I think the bodybag we see in the trailer may actually be a captured Saki - the bag is to prevent her from doing strange and wild acts (at least to those who are not Cain).

Watch the episode twice and I think it is also a pretty good episode. I like how the "perfect plans" coming up by none other than L-Elf fell apart everywhere: Lieselotte was not saved; Saki could not escape; the students were outguessed and outmaneuvered by Cain (which almost led to their certain defeat). Also like how Satomi has grown up to take lead (though only to a certain extent as he kept insisting on waiting for L-Elf's instruction lol).

And we got to know a lot more about Magius. That Lieselotte is a Magius is a bit of a surprise but now everything links together including those freaking green marks (so it is really an iron maiden she went inside after all! ).

Also we can see that the OS girl (Pico?) in Valvrave is not Magius because she does not recognize the life form Magius. So does it mean she is yet another alien life form captured and enclosed in Valvrave to do the donkey work? Why didn't Haruto's dad explain that as well in the previous episode?

I also love the depiction of Haruto when 1) he decided to save L-Elf and 2) asked Lieselotte not to think that she has no future with L-Elf -- it is so easy to see how he identifies it with his relationship with Shouko (unfortunately this is the only Shouko we see - the heroine is MIA in wait how many episodes so far?). It is just sad that despite this flag being set up, she just goes to die the next moment.

On the other hand, I am not sure what the purpose the knife fight serve in the story. Except to show us the crazy side of the kid and some cool sakuga, I don't see how the melee is necessary.

So now Lieselotte is gone - my guess of the pairings is now in tatters. So who are the ancestors of the prince we see 200 years later?
well said, perfectly put except for how you don't understand the concept of a knife fight. it's out of respect for eachother. it's to show skill and uphold honor. L-Elf couldof said, "fuck you." and shot him dead right there. knife fight/sword fight among two people familiar w/one another is a pretty classic move depicted far and wide in film.

I also gotta say that they are really giving the feel that they will kill of Haruto soon. I know, it's been in our face for a while w/the dream sequencing where they flash forward. I wonder if Shouko's lack of screen time is really a flag. I have more hope for the second season to not be so obvious to fall to the overused "death flag" quote. now I'm just really curious as to how many people will die before this season is over.
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