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| The crow seems like the final boss of the show . |
| That was super epic!!! The crow is starting to remind me of Kyuubey hahahaha This is totally like Madoka where it's like the whole "taking over" part ie. the witches and the person not being able to come back. |
| I really like how they use thier powers as a team in battle; MC for close combat, Ice girl for snipeing, shield girl for defense, and Moon girl for support/restricting enemy movements. |
VioLinkJul 13, 2013 10:36 PM
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newnar said: So Sun- Fire, Moon - Plants?, Star - Ice?, Temperament - Money??? The minor arcana are the cards that have a more direct correlation with some of the elements: wands-fire, swords-air, cups-water, pentacles--earth & money. The major arcana tend to have more complex meanings and I don't know that the correlations they are suggesting would necessarily be agreed to by most of the tarot community, however there are some visual elements that could lead you to that conclusion. I checked five different decks (Waite/Coleman, Witches, Golden Dawn, Old Path, Robin Wood) and the main tie ins with the attributes in this show would be the standard depiction of a dog and a wolf on the Moon card, and water on the Star card. As for Temperance--there is nothing to suggest any direct connection with money, takoyaki, or octopus of any sort. This show is probably not going to give you any kind of deep insight into the tarot, although the little summary of a single card's regular and reversed readings at the end is just that--a little (superficial) summary. |
Please don't feed the trolls! In my next life I want to collide at the corner with the cute transfer student carrying a piece of toast in her mouth...rodac |
| Hmm...this show gives off an "average" feeling (for me) but I'll keep watching anyways. |
| By the way, the crow reminds me a lot of Vividred Operation. |
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| i always tend to kind of dislike exposition episodes because they feel a bit rushed more often than not, but this one was okay i guess? i really do like the characters a lot. i've got to be honest, i'm not the biggest fan of the really serious, stoic type characters but i think seira is cool. she seems to just be a little cold and guarded, and that's fine (and understandable). the other girls are very cute. i... like the art style a lot. but i can understand why others may dislike it. the heads could be just a little smaller ahaha. as far as madoka comparisons go, is it necessarily a bad thing? mahou shoujo series are always thematically similar to other examples of the genre in many ways. all of them call back to older, popular series. madoka isn't old, of course, but it was very popular, so. i can see why others would want to ride on the success of it. i don't have much of a problem. |
manchesterJul 14, 2013 2:02 AM
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| I love how bad ass are they after the transformation. Nice ep. |
| talking animals?? probably QB in disguise. run away girls, your lives are in danger. their cards were so obvious... "luna what's your card" HMMM I WONDER. |
KanPaTo said: I don't get it if the person also dies when you kill the demon thing why don't they just kill the person with conventional weapons like guns instead of all this magic crap?!?! He's gonna die either way because if they kill the demons with their magic and whatnot, people associated with that killed person will have their memories wiped. on the other hand if one of the girls just went up to the person and stabbed them, newspapers everywhere would explode with headlines saying "random man murdered, no suspects found." |
| Another good mahou shoujo ;O? |
Omniknight said: underoath777 said: new madoka-like plot-twist incoming! Already revealed. Their role is to kill Daemonica, which incidently means they will kill the person as well. The only mystery left is Akari's mother, who probably just died to a Daemonica. Please stop comparing this to Madoka. You are only setting yourself up for disappointment. I think you got me wrong. What I meant was that there might be more to the organisation, than we currently know. Probably some kind of dark secret, and Taiyou's mother probably just became demonica herself. |
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| great episode ^^ I like Luna, she's just awesome ! |
underoath777 said: Omniknight said: underoath777 said: new madoka-like plot-twist incoming! Already revealed. Their role is to kill Daemonica, which incidently means they will kill the person as well. The only mystery left is Akari's mother, who probably just died to a Daemonica. Please stop comparing this to Madoka. You are only setting yourself up for disappointment. I think you got me wrong. What I meant was that there might be more to the organisation, than we currently know. Probably some kind of dark secret, and Taiyou's mother probably just became demonica herself. That's certainly true we don't know everything yet at this point, but they really did blunder this aspect of the show. This could have easily had a great amount of emotional impact since in all your happy-go-lucky shows, the person does come back unharmed after their "monster form" is defeated. I'm not sure if there's going to be another big reveal to be honest. The animals talking near the end of the episode already said that after she crosses this mental hurdle (killing people), they expect great things from her. That being said, I can't emphasize how much I love this shows OST and art direction. vampko said: Omniknight said: lightXTC said: I was hoping for great things from this anime but after seeing the second episode, I'm not sure I like it. The pacing felt incredibly off, as if they were rushing to animate as much as they could into this single episode. I agree with you. As much as I totally dig the artstyle and tarot cards, the pacing and direction of this episode was a little suspect. Scenes either felt too short, with missing details, or too long, with no meaningful things being discussed in that time. However, I really felt they dropped the ball on the dark reveal. The fact that killing Daemonica means killing the person was poorly presented. Not only was it presented in passing as a sort of fact of the magical system, they really tried too hard to leverage Fuyuna's death, so much that it ended up being a little cheesy. Not only was the relationship between Fuyuna and Akari basically not developed at all before they decided to write her off I've heard something similar before on something, and I dont' understand why every relationship with one's close family has to be developed first. I felt for Akari extremely when she went through that. I understand what it means to have a cousin you're close to. I didn't need the show to waste time on explaining that just to have her die. Can't some relationships just be implied? Why does everything have to have buildup? There's only so much time thy get to run with the show, so they can't sit there and be a super expository of information. Fuyuna was a plot device to show Akari the horrors of what being a Tarot user are. If they had taken episodes to show more of the relationshp, then that would have meant even more time waiting for Akari to become a magical girl. Which would just be dragging the show out. The point of this show is not to debate whether or not Akari should become a magical girl (unlike a different series that people keep on comparing this to for some reason). I can't really say what the show's aim is just yet, but I know that's not the point. I applaud them for not wasting time on something which is a small (but still very important) plot point. Probably because being family members doesn't necessarily mean you are necessarily close. I have a friend who basically is in a constant state of war with his sister. Also how did Akari SHOW she was close to Fuyuna exactly? She called her when she was stuck in vines? That's about all we have to go on. For about 5 minutes, we have happy Fuyuna and Akari. For the following 10 minutes, we have brooding Fuyuna, who is jealous about how Akari attracts all the attention, so much to the point where she is willing to make a wish with a Daemonica to kill her. Does that imply a closeness to the relationship. All I see here is a superficial family "friendship" will deep levels of underlying envy from Fuyuna. Thus, when it came down to wipping Fuyuna off and using her a plot device, it didn't work for me. I mentioned this in the Madoka threads as well. Emotional investment or buldiup is not TIME dependent. You can develop a strong character relationship in a very short amount of time (1/2 an episode even) if you put them through events that really show this (i.e. saving a person in danger, helping them get through a real life crisis, providing support that no one else could have provided...) Regardless of what the show means, at least to me, they squandered this aspect of the show. This reveal could have had a great deal of consequences (in which happy go lucky mahou shoujo do the people who turn in monsters actually die?). By front loading the "suffering and pain" without any context, viewers like me just tune it out or by the end of it, just get used to it. Because context really matters if you are going for this edgy, emotional side. I can easily reference Symphogear (I only watched the first 1/3 of the first season) because the show's characterization is zilch and the situations and fighting are so ridiculous that when people die, I ended up laughing instead of feeling sorry for them. That's why Kill Bill or Jango are treated as comedies, despite their body count. |
OmniknightJul 14, 2013 6:45 AM
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| Absolutely Excellent OST, good animation (although the character models just look stringy and weird to me) and a much more coherent directive focus compared to ep 1. Hopefully it keeps up the pace. Keen for more SUFFERING! |
| Im really liking the animation and expect great fight scenes in the future. This episode cleared up a couple stuff and was still entertaining. |
underoath777 said: I think you got me wrong. What I meant was that there might be more to the organisation, than we currently know. Probably some kind of dark secret, and Taiyou's mother probably just became demonica herself. I'm honestly more interested in the father.. If the father is deceased, why was it not even so much as mentioned while they where visiting moms grave? If hes missing, is he the big evil boss? If there truly is no trace, was her father a monster, making her not only inheriting her mothers card powers, but her fathers dark powers? Or, somehow the mother saving one of the monsters by turning them into her? Regardless, shes considered special, and the op even shows her being enveloped by the darkness (which we where given one possible interpretation this episode, although the fact she stabilized seems to say that isn't what it was about; If she can be stable killing her family with her own hands, it doesn't seem like strangers are going to be any worse) I'm expecting her to get taken in by the darkness, and eventually regain herself while acquiring the power of purification. |
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| O suspense, where art thou? Right now this series is incredibly anticlimatic, but I'm sticking to it in hope it gets better. I like the badass mahou shoujo aspect, I'm staying for that one. Also Akari should stay in her "released" form permamently, her voice is bearable then. |
| the shoutouts to Madoka are everywhere, any bets on the time left for the 1st team death? :/ i do hope this doesnt turn out a straight Madoka remake, the dark elements are great but... lets just say it has been already done. Wordsmith said: I don't trust the talking animals. Always expecting another QB behind them...  the 'True Neutrals' of anime are dicks :s begin the ship wars!! |
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| I've been sitting here for five minutes, trying to organize my thoughts. I give up, I simply enjoyed it for whatever reasons 4/5. |
| Although the transformations were rather simple, I liked them. The fight scene looked great as well. Now I kinda want to see the remaining tarot card users in action, but I doubt we will see all of the 21. |
| so far so good |
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WingsOfValor said: Although the transformations were rather simple, I liked them. The fight scene looked great as well. Now I kinda want to see the remaining tarot card users in action, but I doubt we will see all of the 21. "Yo, giant grasshopper. Wait for me to transform. I'll take me 30 seconds. Just wait, don't do anything funny." Transformations = 5 seconds, no more. I'm still scarred from that StrikerS episode where 6-8 people transformed and it took up more than half the episode... I'm all for awesome poses though. I also wish that they would draw the characters in different clothing. Why is Akari still wearing her old school uniform? |
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Cabron said: AnimeFan500 said: This.Wow just wow!!! The girls have to fight even though they are killing humans(Daemonia). The burden they carry T___T. Poor Akari. I already don't like the raven and cat On topic: This episode was better than the previous one imo. So we learn more about the tarot cards and about the Daemonia. Dat battle with the animation, pretty good. The auntie not knowing what Akari was talking about, when Akari mentioned Fuyuna, won't lie felt a little sad. Overall enjoyable episode. Quoting because my feelings toward this part. I'm not lying that I do tear up a bit... And that moment before that when Akari rememberd Fuunya... I feel for her, but oh man girl... You seriously need a hug. ;_ ; I obviously loved it, and explain a whole lot, but everything is all over the places that it may take time to put all the information together.. |
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| I like. It reminds me of Madoka! Also: I think Luna controls vines and such because they might be referencing moon goddesses that double as goddesses of nature. For reference: Diana Artemis Danu |
livingdeadashJul 15, 2013 12:26 AM
| Something does not feel right in this episode: I wonder why there is zero mention of what happens to Taiyou's old friends and classmates. The change of school seemed to just take place so casually. We don't even get to see any goodbye and then everything is about the new school... |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
 Ashe's Ult, LoL players will get the reference. Moving right along, This series is pretty good, Must say i'm kinda enjoying it. |
| Enjoying this so far! Hope it continues being this good. Transformation sequences were a bit simplistic but also nice and short. I like the character designs. |
| It's really good...better than the first one |
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RLinksoul said: Well this series has certainly taken a turn for the interesting. I can't say much for the transformations, since they're rather simplistic, but the seinen crowd seems to hate those anyway. I can't name a single character I dislike at this point. The blue one is kind of cold but she's not being a complete jerk like I expected. She's not acting like she's better than Akari. The circumstances, what they have to do, make me understand her harshness. I really like the blond fang girl. Can't put my finger on it but she reminds me of someone from another anime... possibly a Kugimiya character. And what circumstances these are. I'm surprised it was simply memory erasure and not complete time manipulation or something like that. There's bound to be evidence of these people's existences... especially if they're a parent. Photos, videos, distant relatives. The fight scene was pretty impressive. I wouldn't have minded seeing its resolution, but from a story standpoint I like how it went. I actually feel for Akari and her dilemma. If this show continues to keep my interest, I may shed a tear or two in the future. Wordsmith said: I don't trust the talking animals. Always expecting another QB behind them... As much as it pains me to say it, I can see that. Judging from the goth loli girl's reaction to the raven about people's feelings. At first I was suspicious that there might be something evil afoot, but now I see this as a "necessary cruelty" thing. And that part about how these monsters have had an influence on history... Ugh. This show is just TRYING to make people scream "It's like Madoka!" But whatever, it's still loads more interesting to me. 8/10. Reminds me of that blond girl from Astarotte no Omocha |
| I hope the pacing gets fixed a bit. It feels like they're majorly rushing matters when they can really take their time on this. It's a bit understandable if this series is a half-cour, but I think they can do better than this. |
Will I fall in love someday? I wonder? |
| Decent episode. I liked the fight and the OST though. |
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| I am having a very hard time taking this series seriously OTL The ost and music is nice and the action scenes are pretty awesome but the plot seemed really ridiculous. The flow of the story doesn't seem to be getting anywhere ;/ 3/5 |
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| About pacing, this doesn't have enough time or money to go monster of the week mode for too long like Precure or Sailor Moon, it feels rushed an awkward like Nanoha's first season beginning, where things relevant are revealed in a very non subtle way just because the show didn't get money and time at all to make the storytelling great. I like the potential of this as a Mahou Shoujo just because the fights might look cool and I watch Mahou Shoujo anime for this, who cares about plot anyways? The show will be fine as long as the money goes towards animating fights. Now that they revealed that there are 21 warriors you can just deduce the last boss will be from the Death arcana just because the others already fit other possible boss roles. Temperance girl didn't make sense at all if you relate her power to her arcana directly, healing would be more fitting, and her personality doesn't fit "Temperance" at all, maybe they are using some very far-fetched design and obscure meaning. I am not expecting any more precise depictions of the others at all after this... All the Madoka comparisons in the posts lmao |
| Finally, a clear-up about what happened to Fuyuna. That really sucks; it's really a cruel fate to be a tarot card user. But I'm glad, because it adds a nice layer of depth to the show. |
| More Madoka vibes. If this series is only 1 cour, I doubt it will explain everything. |
| I liked this episode more than the first, but I'm still not crazy about it. The characters are still very bland. The story got better, but I still feel like it's trying too hard. However, the style and music are so fantastic. I'll keep watching for now, but there is a high possibility I'll end up dropping this. |
| I fear for the girls... O.O bad thing are coming... The episode starts off with the title "the blood shed future" or something and I was like oh poop XD the raven and the cat are teaming up to be the biggest pricks of Summer 2013 oh well and something tells me that every girl had to kill someone important to them in order to awake or fully gasp their powers akari killed the cousin and in the bathroom Seira was thinking about something that looked like a dead scientist then she said "it never gets easier no matter how many times" then the other girls agreed. Don't know maybe that guy was her father or something ; / |
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| ^ It seems like the bird and cat will be contending for anime's next Kyuubei. Although Akari becoming part of this organization seemed a bit rushed, the main gist of what's happening has finally come to light. In order to save lives, they must take them. They must kill victims of the Daemonia in order to stop them. It must've been an eye opener when Akari regained her memories, especially when she said that it was as if she killed Fuyuna twice. I have a feeling it can only get darker from here, now I'm hooked in. |
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| Two words: Rip Off. I couldn't help but laugh at all the similarities to Madoka Magica. I'm not say this is a bad show, but come on now this was funny. I mean the demons in this show are made exactly like, the witches in Madoka. Also that crow is acting exactly like kyubbi. There are some many things but I don't feel like noting them. Overall this episode was a good laugh. |
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