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Ahri said: KayChan4U said: Lol wow 20 000% done with Valvrave. That was so fucking retarded 'I HAD SEX WITH YOU WHICH WAS MORE SO RAPE, SO MARRY ME.' Yeah No Fuck that lol Yeah, I don't know I'm still holding onto a bit of hope but if things continue this way... It's highly likely I'll keep the status on this one as dropped and keep the rating at 1. At this point I'm just like 'Fuck Haruto, fuck Saki. Let Shouko and L-elf hook up' Cause honestly I have no faith in Haruto as a main character or a love interest anymore cause that's just fucking wrong. |
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| Shouko is either next Euphemia or next Darth Vader. Can't decide right now, but either seems VERY possible and either way Best Girl Saki wins again. She is bound to NOT take the whole Saki/Haruto news that well, especially considering Haruto just killed her father. Also the whole "everything will TOTALLY be ok once we reach the moon" pretty much implies a huge fucking bloodbath. |
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Lykros said: what I am saying is you can not rape the willing. Wrong. Gross. Get Out. |
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| yeah saki x haruto!!......but i still have a feeling that shoko is still gonna crawl her way back to haruto... |
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KayChan4U said: Ahri said: KayChan4U said: Lol wow 20 000% done with Valvrave. That was so fucking retarded 'I HAD SEX WITH YOU WHICH WAS MORE SO RAPE, SO MARRY ME.' Yeah No Fuck that lol Yeah, I don't know I'm still holding onto a bit of hope but if things continue this way... It's highly likely I'll keep the status on this one as dropped and keep the rating at 1. At this point I'm just like 'Fuck Haruto, fuck Saki. Let Shouko and L-elf hook up' Cause honestly I have no faith in Haruto as a main character or a love interest anymore cause that's just fucking wrong. I second this. Lykros said: Well remember he doesn't see himself as a human anymore. Also he understands her for being alone. That's my thinking that it's alright I guess. While everyone saying "rape", come one now she wanted him since episode 2 I think it was, or was it 1, but what I am saying is you can not rape the willing. He thinks thought he raped her, but really now thinks that she loves/wants him. Okay so a girl has a guy who she's liked for years (note: she's barely talked to him). And then somehow they start getting closer, and then suddenly the guy pounces on her and rips her shirt off forcing her down. Right. Totally not rape. |
LaciieJun 20, 2013 6:20 PM
| Oh wow...so much happened this week. Shoko finds a situation she can't think her way out of, L-elf has helped them win again, but ends up being out smarted by Cain! And now the school is being damaged beyond repair, the students are under attack and Haruto proposes marriage?! Okay, Okay first things first. I thought they glanced too much over the events at the end of last episode and I hope they really address that or it will feel as if they just used rape as a shock and awe tactic with not real purpose. Yet, it was slightly addressed by Saki and Haruto going on a sort-of "date" and Haruto proposing marriage to her in the end (which I think is really out of his sense of duty, more than the fact that he loves her or anything). Next we are faced with the Dorssians charging ex-Prime Minister Sashinami with war crimes (ironic!) and giving him a sham trial with a sentence of death. They try to use this as a way to twist Shoko's hand, but while highly conflicted, she doesn't stand down. L-elf by the way, tells her that his plan to defeat the advancing army is to use Haruto's harakiri attack, however, this will certainly kill her father. Shoko struggles with what to do. L-elf seems though to have no hesitance in actually killing her if necessary, and prepares his gun even as she is trying to negotiate. However, there is really no way out of this one and time runs out. Haruto does his attack, destroying 74% of the Dorssian fleet and killing Shoko's father in the process. However, we find out that L-elf has actually fallen right into Cain's trap, as Cain uses the lull after the victory to attack Module 77 and successfully boards it. It seems Cain was L-elf's teacher and thus he really knows his student. However, we have yet to see L-elf's expression and response to Cain's invasion and since he left no notes regarding it, I'm a bit suspicious of his motives here. Did Cain really out think him? Or did he know Cain's plans but deliberately kept them from the students? He seems willing to kill Shoko should it prove necessary, so I'm guessing his not holding too closely with his contract with Haruto. What's going on here? And does it have something to do with H-neun. We haven't seen a continuation of what went on with him since last episode, so we'll have to see. Other than all of that, we get a little more on Akira. We find out that while she can interact with Shoko and is climbing a little out of her shell, she is nowhere near wanting to socialize with others. She has a panic attack after talking with Shoko and friends and Satomi says that he will deal with it. However, it seems she is too crippled to even answer his calls. We see that her family are posh socialites and this is a nightmare for an anthropophobic like Akira. Now how that will be addressed next episode I have no idea. How the heck are we going to get a girl with this bad of a social phobia to pilot the last Valvrave? This was a great episode and I didn't want it to end. However, next week is the final episode of the season and I can already tell it's going to be a dozy. I give this episode a 9.5/10. Had to give it slightly less then ten because of the largely unaddressed issue between Saki and Haruto from last week. However, other than that, loved it! |
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| This episode wasn't retarded... NOOOOOOOOOOOO |
Mubashwer said: I really hope that neither Haruto nor Saki die... the rest can die XD... I have a feeling sth tragic is going to happen to either Haruto or Saki.. surely Saki can't die we see her 200 years in the future in one of the previous episodes. |
| DAMNIT, Sir Rapealot (Haruto). Asking her will you marry me? HE DONE FUCKED UP NOW!!! |
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Raito said: This episode wasn't retarded... NOOOOOOOOOOOO It was pretty god damn retarded, man. |
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| OH MY GOD JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, now we really know that the minister actually die, killed by haruto..... poor shoko, she always been tortured since first episode, and I don't feel any pity for her LOL..... after all those buildup, a PROPOSAL ???? wut ? is it because haruto has raped saki and he wants to redeem his guilt by marying her ??? so it's not "pure" love |
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lplayer19 said: Fai said: Lykros said: what I am saying is you can not rape the willing. Wrong. Gross. Get Out. Well it was confirmed at the beginning of the episode that she was ok with it. She said she would not let him apologize to her and still harbored feelings for him. We'll just have to see what happens in episode 12 I guess. Jus tbecause she does not consider it rape, does not make it not rape. |
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billng said: You guys are all overreacting here. Saki Marie is best girl! Fixed. |
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Ajunky said: physicx92 said: That seems to be the case.1) The writer fucking hates Shoko. The writer also wrote Code Geass. And Shouko is Euphemia and Shirley rolled into one so... |
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physicx92 said: 1) The writer fucking hates Shoko. Okouchi Ichiro (the script writer) hates childhood friend it seems. Proven in the following animes Maybe he has something against his own childhood friend?! (Do not take me seriously please). Edit: @Fai, use spoilers tag please. |
ShihJun 20, 2013 6:56 PM
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| this anime is one huge shitstorm, lol, i love it. loled at the scene where he saw the bikini billboard at the beginning, and i wonder how that marriage proposal will work out... hmmm, interesting. oh yeah, and about this whole rape business, IT WASNT FREAKING RAPE, SHE WANTED THE D AND SHE GOT IT. lol, but seriously, she didnt consider it rape, she still loves haruto. |
Shih said: 1) Why is L-Elf trying to make Shouko break down mentally? He clearly put her in an isolated area, and have her watch her father's death (I sure L-Elf already saw that coming). My Theory is that L-elf is trying to shape her into the leader he needs her to be since he cannot directly take full control of Modulal 77 |
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SapphireDragon said: Some MAL users don't agree with that.this anime is one huge shitstorm, lol, i love it. loled at the scene where he saw the bikini billboard at the beginning, and i wonder how that marriage proposal will work out... hmmm, interesting. oh yeah, and about this whole rape business, IT WASNT FREAKING RAPE, SHE WANTED THE D AND SHE GOT IT. lol, but seriously, she didnt consider it rape, she still loves haruto. |
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| I gotta say, that was a really good episode. Good good, not bad good. I think the show is totally stepping up. Poor adorable Akira. I just wanted to give her a big hug. I don't understand what social anxiety is like, but I can totally feel for her. It's great that Shouko cares about her so much, but she can't quite understand why Akira is like that since she's so extroverted herself. I actually really liked Shouko in this episode. I felt so bad for her though. She got to confirm that her dad is still living and see him again, but then he was taken away from her forever. I was hoping she would come up with one of her stupidly brilliant ideas, but she couldn't do a thing this time. Dang. That ending though. Oh my gosh, I didn't expect it. I was laughing my head off. These twists in this show never fail to surprise me. That was pretty manly of Haruto taking responsibility like that. I really hope he does end up falling in love with Saki, because it wouldn't be fair to her otherwise. Also why am I not surprised that the Valvrave tag in Tumblr is full of idiots as usual? I should really stop going in that tag or else they'll infect me with their stupidity. |
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lplayer19 said: Fai said: lplayer19 said: Fai said: Lykros said: what I am saying is you can not rape the willing. Wrong. Gross. Get Out. Well it was confirmed at the beginning of the episode that she was ok with it. She said she would not let him apologize to her and still harbored feelings for him. We'll just have to see what happens in episode 12 I guess. Jus tbecause she does not consider it rape, does not make it not rape. I really think it would be up to the person who had it happen to them. Saki didnt consider it rape. Maybe it was though or maybe it was not. The producers probably had it in there just so there would be an argument like this. Most of rape victims have a strong need to rationalize what has happened to them, especially those who have feelings for their rapists. It changes nothing. You can be stabbed with a kitchen knife and no matter how much you try to convince you were not, you still have been stabbed with a kitchen knife. SapphireDragon said: oh yeah, and about this whole rape business, IT WASNT FREAKING RAPE, SHE WANTED THE D AND SHE GOT IT. lol, but seriously, she didnt consider it rape, she still loves haruto. People with mindsets like that is everything that makes the rape culture of our society thrive.... 1. You can "want it" and still be raped. 2. You can be in love with the perpetrator and still be raped. 3. You can end up liking it, give up midway or not be conscious at a ll, and its still rape. 4. You can try to rationalize and justify it as not a rape, but its still rape. haruto did not have Saki's consent upon initiating the intercourse, he ripped her clothes off, raped her and left her nearly-catatonic. Sounds like rape to me. Crimsonflame512 said: Shih said: 1) Why is L-Elf trying to make Shouko break down mentally? He clearly put her in an isolated area, and have her watch her father's death (I sure L-Elf already saw that coming). My Theory is that L-elf is trying to shape her into the leader he needs her to be since he cannot directly take full control of Modulal 77 Crimsonflame512 said: Shih said: 1) Why is L-Elf trying to make Shouko break down mentally? He clearly put her in an isolated area, and have her watch her father's death (I sure L-Elf already saw that coming). My Theory is that L-elf is trying to shape her into the leader he needs her to be since he cannot directly take full control of Modulal 77 Yeah. After this episode, instead of 99% possibility of SHouko being new Euphemia, there's 50% possibility of that and 50% possibility of DArth Shoko(especially if she goes all yandere after finding out Haruto/Saki stuff) Still:  dat death flag. |
AhenshihaelJun 20, 2013 7:14 PM
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| oh jesus... cant help but to think the end is gonna be depressing and filled with drama... and whoa wonder what happened to Akira that made her so afraid of the outside world and people physicx92 said: 1) The writer fucking hates Shoko. Yeah seriously what the fucking hell is going on in Okouchi Ichiro head... I'm starting to think he has something against girls or have a sick fetish... how many female characters he have get badly tormented, tortured, or killed? Lykros said: what I am saying is you can not rape the willing. dont god start start something.... we dont need another 10 page argument whether its rape or its not rape OR FUCKING WHATEVER Cabron said: billng said: You guys are all overreacting here. Saki Marie is best girl! Fixed. hell yeah Marie is the best! |
| Dang I was hoping we could get past the rape discussion after this episode. But no such luck. |
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| The ending was pretty surprising, but that's probably little for what's to come ahead. |
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| Let's take a look at Haruto's latest achievements: -Rapes Saki(inb4 dude not rape, love!) -Kills Shoko's papa -Proposes to Saki WHAT WILL HE DO NEXT?! This anime is a fucking riot. diyedas said: All aboard the rape train! We're going another 20+ pages today!Dang I was hoping we could get past the rape discussion after this episode. But no such luck. |
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AlexTheRiot said: Let's take a look at Haruto's latest achievements: -Rapes Saki(inb4 dude not rape, love!) -Kills Shoko's papa -Proposes to Saki WHAT WILL HE DO NEXT?! This anime is a fucking riot. diyedas said: All aboard the rape train! We're going another 20+ pages today!Dang I was hoping we could get past the rape discussion after this episode. But no such luck. Haruto: I'm going to Disneyland!! Sorry, had to do it. Shh. Don't encourage them! Don't give them any ideas. XD |
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lplayer19 said: AlexTheRiot said: Let's take a look at Haruto's latest achievements: -Rapes Saki(inb4 dude not rape, love!) -Kills Shoko's papa -Proposes to Saki WHAT WILL HE DO NEXT?! This anime is a fucking riot. diyedas said: All aboard the rape train! We're going another 20+ pages today!Dang I was hoping we could get past the rape discussion after this episode. But no such luck. You know what? Good point plenty of other crazy things happened this episode. I think Saki will accept the proposal and Shoko is kind of the wild card as to how she will react to Haruto accidentally killing her dad. I think Akira may end up piloting the las Valvrave (I'm rooting for her or Saki honestly) But Saki already pilots a Valvrave. XD |
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| Dat ring might cost a fortune... |
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| They're ministers now, they don't need to pay for a ring. |
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| Any ideas as to why Haruto proposed to Saki? I already have one idea, but I just want to know what everyone else thinks? |
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Cabron said: Any ideas as to why Haruto proposed to Saki? I already have one idea, but I just want to know what everyone else thinks? I was thinking out of guilt and feeling the need to take responsibility. Also possibly because he doesn't want her to be lonely anymore. Could be several reasons. Mostly I'd say because he feels responsible. He probably thinks the rape is his fault, so he needs to do something about that. Saki doesn't seem to see it that way, and she's right. It's why she won't let him apologize, because he shouldn't have to. Despite all that happened Saki's strong and she still likes Haruto, or else that date wouldn't have happened. I do believe that Haruto has some feelings for Saki with the way he acts and that could be another reason he proposed. |
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