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Blackbird said: I don't hate Miki that's her personality, you can't just simple changed the way she is. Haruka such a sweet girl but sure can feel lonely sometimes, if she had someone important person that care for her and she could talk with she probably will feel better, but now Producent-san fall down she going to feel even worst and believe all was her fault. She quit idol and can't force to smile anymore. Probably in the end of next episode it will solved again. Come on in the previous it's only show 3 scenes. Ya really agree with u as thats just Miki attitude and they cant change that like the same can be said for Haruka in that she wants to spend time with the other idols which can be seen as selfish as well to others and they also cant change that it depends on how people see it. Btw that 2ch pictures made me LOL rather than feeling sad |
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| Yes! This is exactly what I was waiting for to happen, I cant wait for the next episode, however I don't see a good ending with only 2 episodes left they gonna rush it And what's with the credits? I thought it was the last episode cause of it lol |
daikafoeDec 10, 2011 12:56 AM
| This episode is like the one w/ chihaya full of :( and I feel bad for haruka...she just wanted to be w/ her friends :/ and I'm still hoping for a lovely concert on episode 25....dedicated to the producer(alive or not :p) |
| I totally did not see that ending coming at all! I honestly don't think it's anyone's fault because the Producer would have done the same thing for any of the girls. It was just an unfortunate accident. Miki's reaction to Haruka could go either way in my opinion because of how stuck she is on Producer. She may be a bit spoiled and self centered but I don't think she's a bad person. Haruka seemed like the most well adjusted character but in reality she is the worst off because she always wants to pretend that nothing is wrong or she thinks she will burden people if she talks about her true feelings. I mean it's understandable she feels lonely now that everyone is so busy and wishes they could all be together but she needs to realize with success comes sacrifice. I see the ending being them putting on the concert and it being awesome and the Producer NOT being dead or anything. Probably just backstage in a wheelchair. |
kaitota said: There is obviously a conflict of ideals here. I see what you mean, but I would find it hard to fight to the end for the lead role while at the same time still supporting your opposition. Miki is able to do stuff on her own, while Haruka still yearns for some friendly connection to keep herself going. So, I didn't find her mean at all towards. In fact, I see it as helping Haruka, in a sense, overcome her need of dependency.destructo22 said: I also don't get the hate for Miki in this ep. I found it perfectly okay for her to want that lead role really badly. Personally, my problem with her in this episode wasn't about the fact that she wanted the lead role - that's natural. My problem was the fact that she treated Haruka as if she were just a rival, and not her friend. It's possible to support each other and still compete for the same goal... :/ And that is why, overall, I hate Miki. Not that she wants to 'be the best' - it's the fact that she acts like an entitled brat and 'it's ok' because she's 'cute'. The fanbase arguing that her behavior is natural in her profession doesn't help, either. Like Leon-Gun said - if it was Chihaya that Haruka was working with, she would have agreed and been a supportive friend while they both did their best to try and snag the lead. This is where I think Haruka's strong point of her preserving the good ol' "danketsu" of 765PRO is also her downfall. They're not always gonna be together, and I think Haruka needs to realize it. |
destructo22Dec 10, 2011 6:15 AM
| It saddens me that this show is slowly coming to an end. Any idea if there will be a season 2? |
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| I cried when watching the last scene...PRODUCER-SAN!! *sobs* I want to fricken kill Miki...she is so selfish and she just wants "Honey" Pro-san to be with her. I like the sleepy Miki better..since she is "awaken" now..she drives people nuts. I hope Pro-san is alright :( this and the next episode will be the saddest. |
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| anyone know when the ost will be released?? the music when Haruka was walking alone in the bridge is really addictive.. :P AND i really wonder why most (if not all) of you taking Haruka's side and start cursing poor Miki.. from my view, Haruka is weak.. she is unable to face the changes for being an idol.. she feels lonely and missing the old days when she was supporting and supported by others.. she have to face what being an idol means.. she have to remember her dream and not give up on her feelings..right now everyone is going on their own way, they change and aim for their dreams.. she have to realize that and start doing the same.. feeling lonely and unable to change wont do anything.. and i really think that she wanted to stop being an idol :P "I'll sing! On behalf of my proud dream!" .. from this line next episode.. after she stands up on her feet, she will say it proudly and take the lead of course..... well.. my own guess.. |
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| Holy Shit. This episode shocked me alot. I'm sure miki's lost alot of fans already (including me) Hope producer's alright or this is gonna turn real depressing ;( |
| Haruka is stealing all of Miki's fans I love this show. Now all we need is an epic moment where Haruka gets over herself and is followed by a hotblooded singing number. C'MON GAINAX THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOOD AT |
| Haruka's trying so hard to keep the group together despite everyone having their own schedules. She isn't looking at it realistically. She values the time they spend together so much that she can't take it anymore. All her proposals are getting turned down and nobody can make it to the scheduled rehearsals either. You can see her getting more down and down every time it happens. On top of that the show "Are We Live?!" got cancelled and Miki will most likely end up getting the main role (she was being selfish too!) in the musical because Haruka was worrying so much and just wasn't herself. But of course the main thing is the Producer falling down the lift-shaft trying to save Haruka! Now Haruka will also be feeling guilty on top of all her sadness lately. Poor Haruka. =( |
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| HOLY CRAP. These guys are not fucking around. This is turning into one of my favorite shows this season. I love how it started out as a basic slice-of-life show and then turned into something with so much character development and drama. Here's to a second season! |
kaitota said: Saying that would be frontin. And no one likes frontin lol. Miki keeps it real.destructo22 said: There is obviously a conflict of ideals here. I see what you mean, but I would find it hard to fight to the end for the lead role while at the same time still supporting your opposition. Miki is able to do stuff on her own, while Haruka still yearns for some friendly connection to keep herself going. So, I didn't find her mean at all towards. In fact, I see it as helping Haruka, in a sense, overcome her need of dependency. This is where I think Haruka's strong point of her preserving the good ol' "danketsu" of 765PRO is also her downfall. They're not always gonna be together, and I think Haruka needs to realize it. About Haruka: Definitely. But, just because I think she needs to realize that fact, I don't think it condemns the way Miki spoke to her. She could have just as easily simply said "Do your best" or "Let's do our best" and left it at that. When it comes down to it, what bothers me is the fact that Miki is supposed to be Haruka's friend. Had it been someone she barely knew or someone from outside of the group acting that way, it wouldn't be an issue, I think. BUT, then where would the end-game drama be? :] Someone needed to drive the final nail intoProducer's the coffin. But yeah, we always need that drama! |
Onyxthegreat said: IMO she was being as realistic as possible, she even stopped Chihaya from postponing her overseas plans. The whole problem is how everyone except Chihaya and Haruka just blindly kept accepting new jobs and prioritizing their individual events rather than the concert. It's not even like Haruka was making unreasonable demands here, the concert is an scheduled event and as members of 765 their schedules should have been handled appropiately in order to make it work. It's not like the concert was a last minute thing or something not related to their career like the Xmas party.Haruka's trying so hard to keep the group together despite everyone having their own schedules. She isn't looking at it realistically. She values the time they spend together so much that she can't take it anymore. All her proposals are getting turned down and nobody can make it to the scheduled rehearsals either. You can see her getting more down and down every time it happens. On top of that the show "Are We Live?!" got cancelled and Miki will most likely end up getting the main role (she was being selfish too!) in the musical because Haruka was worrying so much and just wasn't herself. But of course the main thing is the Producer falling down the lift-shaft trying to save Haruka! Now Haruka will also be feeling guilty on top of all her sadness lately. Poor Haruka. =( I think the biggest blow to Haruka was the cancellation of the program (due to industry greed no-less) and Miki's blunt and unnecesary aggresive answer to a vulnerable and strained Haruka (it's not like it was hard to notice she was tired and needed some friendly rivalry, not an "I'll beat you down" relationship). |
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destructo22 said: There is obviously a conflict of ideals here. I see what you mean, but I would find it hard to fight to the end for the lead role while at the same time still supporting your opposition. Miki is able to do stuff on her own, while Haruka still yearns for some friendly connection to keep herself going. So, I didn't find her mean at all towards. In fact, I see it as helping Haruka, in a sense, overcome her need of dependency. This is where I think Haruka's strong point of her preserving the good ol' "danketsu" of 765PRO is also her downfall. They're not always gonna be together, and I think Haruka needs to realize it. I agree to this. While I also agree Miki can be very self-centered and doesn't choose her words right, that's just the way she is and she's not a mean person. You also have to take into consideration how she was brought up, her age and her character. She doesn't see it as being insensitive. She's confident and her will to be a top idol is unshakable. Also, how is Producer's fall Miki's fault? She wasn't even near him. People that curse at her after crying over Producer, be realistic. This was straight up Haruka's fault. (It really was. I'm sorry Haruka, you're actually one of my fave idols but I'm being realistic here.) Yes Miki said mean things, but Haruka's obsessiveness over getting everyone together, which in turn is making her depressive is the cause of it. |
LuxtressDec 10, 2011 8:21 PM
Mau-Kun said: This really, just this. Isn't it perfectly logical to want to do such a big event right? It feels to me like a big concert would bring in more fans than the small events they keep ditching practice for. It's not like they could limit some events to, I don't know, ACTUALLY GET SOME PRACTICE DONE !!!ArcanaTrace said: Ya really agree with u as thats just Miki attitude and they cant change that like the same can be said for Haruka in that she wants to spend time with the other idols which can be seen as selfish as well to others and they also cant change that it depends on how people see it. Btw that 2ch pictures made me LOL rather than feeling sad I don't think that Haruka is selfish because of that, she didn't want them to practice together because of the fact that she wanted, she wanted that because they will all sing in the New Year Concert as 765 All Stars, so it's perfectly understandable. |
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| OMG just when I thought this show couldn't get any better they dropped this on me. Someone need to put a "drama" to the genre of this show so that it could get the title the best drama of the season. P.S. Honestly you can hate Miki all you want but saying she is wrong doesn't make it right. And I believe most people here agree with this. |
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watercraker said: DarkMorford said: HOLY CRAP. These guys are not fucking around. This is turning into one of my favorite shows this season. I love how it started out as a basic slice-of-life show and then turned into something with so much character development and drama. Here's to a second season! seconded, going into this I didn't expect much at all, but it's turned out to have some of the best drama and character development over the past 2 seasons Third! I want a second season too. 25 episodes is just not enough |
| The fuck?! It's really a Bad End, they made it just like in visual novels with credits without any pictures and just a roll of texts. This was totally, totally unexpected. |
| Leaked episode 24 OP screengrab: |
| If you haven't seen it already, here's the script cover image that Nakamura-san and Hasegawa-san had. Hasegawa-san was the one who held it up to the camera in the video for the discussion (I think?) about 24. Cover image may be somewhat of a spoiler about the Producer's condition (maybe?). I adjusted the levels a bit so that the image can be a little clearer. By the way, thanks stevewiess01 for confirming about how idols normally are in the industry. |
kuroikishi said: If you haven't seen it already, here's the script cover image that Nakamura-san and Hasegawa-san had. Hasegawa-san was the one who held it up to the camera in the video for the discussion (I think?) about 24. Cover image may be somewhat of a spoiler about the Producer's condition (maybe?). I adjusted the levels a bit so that the image can be a little clearer. By the way, thanks stevewiess01 for confirming about how idols normally are in the industry. so Pro-san is alive?? |
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| @yagamisignum Of course, if they'd kill him than this show would turn so much into drama that it will even become infamous because of it, because it is a show made more for the happy things than the sad things, and yes I know there was some drama earlier but that was incomparable to this. |
| Now that kinda spoils it. I don't know if I should watch the episode week by week or watch them straight. Hope it ends good b'coz bad endings doesn't suit this kinda of anime. |
| I like the turn of events here. Due to it, I can't wait to see what will happen to Pro-san and the idols. |
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Magito said: Now that kinda spoils it. I don't know if I should watch the episode week by week or watch them straight. Hope it ends good b'coz bad endings doesn't suit this kinda of anime. In all honesty, Super bad endings is not a nature from the games. The Bad endings in the game is sad, but not tragic sad. So, the possibility of a happier ending is higher, and I doubt this will end in a bittersweet note. |
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| i was like.... really??? , totally didnt expected this. |
| Wow, Miki is kind of a bitch. And holy shit this thing got depressing fast. |
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tealeafkitty said: But everyone sucks at everything compared to Miki-- isn't that normally what is conveyed in the story? (except Chihaya at singing xD) Miki is only good at sleeping&being a b*tch. |
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tealeafkitty said: Haruka has always been the team unifier so it's obvious she feels lonely now that everyone is slowly drifting to their own worlds. That said, the original trigger is actually less selfish and actually something everyone is guilty of. They are going to have a New Years Concert with all the 765 Pro Stars and even though it's an important concert everyone besides a few, like Chihaya, are just giving the most minimal effort to even try to mold their schedules in order to be able to practice (Miki in particular didn't seem to go to any of the practices at all since she kept going on tours and things like that). It's not like Haruka has no work, in fact she has plenty and even more if she'd go with the flow of things. But she always tried to mold her schedule to go to every practice and to go back to the office at the end, even if it was late. Basically she feels like she's the only one who actually wants to do things as a team, and the others are just prioritizing their personal agendas over their team efforts.Question though, aside from everyone growing apart and such, why is Haruka so upset? Is she upset that the show got cancelled? Or that she has an emptier schedule than everyone else? Or all of the above? I kept struggling to see why she's so upset-- everyone's busy and stuff, and that's a good thing right? Besides everyone just got together for an Xmas party even though they were all busy, so shouldn't she be a little less worried about everyone moving apart? The show's cancellation was more like one final blow to their unity because now they wouldn't even have a single place they would all work together. With that blow she pretty much felt like their unity had vanished. |
Leon-GunDec 14, 2011 6:26 PM
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| :( Wow, I was NOT expecting all of this to pile up onto Haruka like that... And the ending, it was completely unexpected... I'm kind of worried for the next episode since the Producer might... not be up to speed anymore. >.> P.S. Miki pissed me off even MORE this episode. |
| "Aiming for the mark takes precision, balance, and patience." ....Screw that, let's shoot the damn thing! |
| I love how the Genre section doesn't have the word "Drama" on despite the recent 6-7 episodes. Poor Haruka. |
mrghost_00 said: I'd say, try to add and see what the admins do with it. I agree with you.I love how the Genre section doesn't have the word "Drama" on despite the recent 6-7 episodes. Poor Haruka. |
| Haruka is my official #1 idol now. I feel so bad for her since she's always so positive and tries not to make her problems known to everyone else. She probably thinks it is her fault and is now traumatized by what happened. I lost some respect for Miki especially when she told Haruka that she didn't want to work together and was only after the part to make herself shine in front of the producer. NO! Producer-san! Your sacrifice will not be in vain! |
HikariNatsumi said: She's one of my favorites too, also because we share the same birthday date. :DHaruka is my official #1 idol now. I also like that she feels more human than some other idols in this show. |
| Man, I wished I hadn't fallen behind watching this. Pretty shocking ending. BAD END |
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