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Apr 9, 2024 10:22 AM

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People miss the point of the op. Honestly, it comes off as poor writing that the goblins accept such a rule so fundamentally against their existance as a species. This is anime writing though so avoiding the topic would have made a lot more sense. It comes off as a plot hole. Like can you just free will out all your desires especially for goblins. Clearly the author did not want to write actual goblins.

To put an equivalent scenario to this, if a cow was reborn as a human would it chose never to eat meat now, and somehow convince every human underneath it now to never eat meat either. No way!
@rohan121 Thx, it's shocking that only so few people understand what I mean.

It's not about the rape per se, it's about PLAUSIBLE writing. Goblins rape, it's literally part of their biology, they procreate that way. In this anime, too, as we were shown.

Imagine a hero came from another world to you, and suddenly demands "everyone take off your clothes, clothes are evil!". Would you go naked? No, you'd fight back at all costs, because walking around naked goes against our very nature at this point in our civilization. But the author of this anime thinks he can just dismiss the goblins' very nature like that. It's poor, shallow writing, and like rohan121 correctly says: Clearly, he didn't want to write about goblins, it's just a random vehicle for all the other, generic isekai elements.
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Apr 9, 2024 10:23 AM

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Go watch Goblin no Suana on hanime instead dude.
@Zimzky Not interested in hentai.
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Apr 9, 2024 10:35 AM

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So first of all the pacing in the anime compared mange is of as theyt leave out things like HE GAVE THE WOMEN THE POISEN.

Second they would have cought the orc mine before he meet the red bear if i do not remember wrong so the pacing is off.

Third just for the morons, the goblin do not need human voman to reproduce, they got female goblins, thou they not as furtile as the human that is true, it is describe in the mange, to be fair second episode is disapoiting compared to the mange.
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Apr 9, 2024 10:41 AM
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MyllerPhiem said:
@Zimzky Not interested in hentai.

Yet you want the women in this anime to be raped by goblins. I just wanted to give you an outlet for your desires.
Apr 9, 2024 11:22 AM

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LostSpectre said:
The MC reincarnated as a goblin, but he has a different sense of morality because he used to be human, it's not that fucking complicated.

Bro is literally malding because the human women aren't being enslaved and raped like a typical goblin hentai or some shit. SMH

ejleon said:
This is not hentai dude, go to watch that if that’s what you want

The fact that I and these two dudes are on the same side on this just goes to show how fucking sick you are.

MyllerPhiem said:
@Tarrian I can rationalize all that. And I criticized that, too. But the behavior towards human women is just too crass and makes no sense. It's like MC being reborn as a lion and telling other lions "no more eating meat!".

Not quite. Killing to eat and raping for fun are arguably kinda different, don't you think? Like they said, these goblins have intelligence, language comprehension, and a means of reproduction within their own race. I know this will sound very fucking bad, but you could almost say that they are on the level of indigenous people. They just don't have civilization, which makes them barbaric and immoral. So when this guy comes along and begins acting humanely, suddenly his generation and everyone around him start becoming more powerful, almost like rape was holding them back. No, it was.

If you told a lion to not eat meat, the former would not happen. They don't have thumbs, so they can't do shit other than bite.

But none of that is relevant to the fact that you just said you want to see the kind of ugly ugly shit that would make a sane person's blood curdle and contact their local church for a second baptism. At least in gory shows like goblin slayer or berserk they get flattened, because no one wants to see them as MCs. (unless they become sanitized like this)
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Apr 9, 2024 12:12 PM

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People miss the point of the op. Honestly, it comes off as poor writing that the goblins accept such a rule so fundamentally against their existance as a species. This is anime writing though so avoiding the topic would have made a lot more sense. It comes off as a plot hole. Like can you just free will out all your desires especially for goblins. Clearly the author did not want to write actual goblins.

To put an equivalent scenario to this, if a cow was reborn as a human would it chose never to eat meat now, and somehow convince every human underneath it now to never eat meat either. No way!
@rohan121 Yeah, they accepted the rule because they were told rape was mean and not nice, and goblins shouldn't be bad...

Oh, no that's right he beat the offenders half to death in a public square and left them to die, that's why they fucking accepted it.

Really shocking that the person who singlehandedly has the worst fucking takes on gender would readily agree with this, though.

Not.
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Apr 9, 2024 12:26 PM

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@rohan121 Yeah, they accepted the rule because they were told rape was mean and not nice, and goblins shouldn't be bad...

Oh, no that's right he beat the offenders half to death in a public square and left them to die, that's why they fucking accepted it.

Really shocking that the person who singlehandedly has the worst fucking takes on gender would readily agree with this, though.

Not.
@LostSpectre
You can't just magically turn gay nor should a goblin somehow get no stimulus from stuff he evolved for. Breeding with humans is a biological evolution of goblins. Not merely some cultural event. It still makes no sense how the Mc has no biological predisposition for it
Again it seems people can't differentiate how species are. Of course it is fiction so biology takes no effect when the writer ignores it.
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Apr 9, 2024 12:27 PM

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@GrimAtrament You must be very young, because clearly you haven't read a lot of stories involving goblins.
@MyllerPhiem old then you clearly if you're basing your knowledge of goblins off typical modern literature like dnd or tolken. Old folk tales goblins are mostly mischievous in folktale not evil


Media brain rot is what made them "evil"

You clearly haven't read enough stories.

Pick mischievous but not evil.
Most famous goblin from folklore was robin Goodfellow which was a hero or a prankster never evil.

Goblin with the horn also was not evil. Would offer traveling knights water when they proclaimed "I thirst." In fact the humans in that were evil as they abused the goblins kindness stealing the horn from It.

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Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
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“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

Apr 9, 2024 12:27 PM
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People miss the point of the op. Honestly, it comes off as poor writing that the goblins accept such a rule so fundamentally against their existance as a species. This is anime writing though so avoiding the topic would have made a lot more sense. It comes off as a plot hole. Like can you just free will out all your desires especially for goblins. Clearly the author did not want to write actual goblins.

To put an equivalent scenario to this, if a cow was reborn as a human would it chose never to eat meat now, and somehow convince every human underneath it now to never eat meat either. No way!
@rohan121
1) Goblins aren't real, and are thus susceptible to creative liberty.

2) Regarding cows, it depends. If the reincarnation maintained it's cow-level intelligence, it would probably attempt to subsist on grass and struggle to sustain itself. If it gained sapience, it would probably come to realize the difference between a cow's diet and a human diet and adjust accordingly. Does that mean it will go full carnivore/omnivore? If it were you or the OP, you would probably make the logical progression of "me human" > "humans eat meat" > "me eat meat", and that's fine. I think most people would probably sympathize with they former species and choose vegetarianism, especially if they had memories of their time as a cow, and their cause of death was slaughterhouse. And if said cow-man had the means and desire to do so, they could very well stop others from eating meat too.
Apr 9, 2024 12:30 PM

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MyllerPhiem said:
@Zimzky Not interested in hentai.

Yet you want the women in this anime to be raped by goblins. I just wanted to give you an outlet for your desires.
@Zimzky Nah, read the thread, asshole.

@mods: This guy insinuates I desire rape. As is clear from my postings in this thread, it's about plausibility, not some personal desire for rape. This guy deserves punishment.
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@mafd12 Thx, this posting makes me happy <3
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Apr 9, 2024 12:32 PM

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@rohan121 Yeah, they accepted the rule because they were told rape was mean and not nice, and goblins shouldn't be bad...

Oh, no that's right he beat the offenders half to death in a public square and left them to die, that's why they fucking accepted it.

Really shocking that the person who singlehandedly has the worst fucking takes on gender would readily agree with this, though.

Not.
@LostSpectre Beating the other goblins shouldn't have worked in this case. Goblins raping human women is so ingrained in their DNA, their being, that you cannot suppress it like this.
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Apr 9, 2024 12:33 PM
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MyllerPhiem said:
@Zimzky Nah, read the thread, asshole.

@mods: This guy insinuates I desire rape. As is clear from my postings in this thread, it's about plausibility, not some personal desire for rape. This guy deserves punishment.

Ooof, straight for the report. Good on ya.
Apr 9, 2024 12:36 PM

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You can't just magically turn gay nor should a goblin somehow get no stimulus from stuff he evolved for. Breeding with humans is a biological evolution of goblins. Not merely some cultural event. It still makes no sense how the Mc has no biological predisposition for it
Again it seems people can't differentiate how species are. Of course it is fiction so biology takes no effect when the writer ignores it.
@rohan121 You're absolutely mental talking about the biological predispositions of a fantasy race, Jesus fucking Christ. Whether or not the MC wants to fuck as a goblin has nothing to do with overriding his human morals, as a previously evolved species over the goblins. All I see are thinly veiled justifications for wanting to see goblin rape, in which case, please go read some hentai and get it out of your system.
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Apr 9, 2024 12:41 PM

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@LostSpectre Beating the other goblins shouldn't have worked in this case. Goblins raping human women is so ingrained in their DNA, their being, that you cannot suppress it like this.
@MyllerPhiem Literal fucking brainrot, this is a series where goblins evolve into more intelligent beings. Go read hentai.
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@rohan121 You're absolutely mental talking about the biological predispositions of a fantasy race, Jesus fucking Christ. Whether or not the MC wants to fuck as a goblin has nothing to do with overriding his human morals, as a previously evolved species over the goblins. All I see are thinly veiled justifications for wanting to see goblin rape, in which case, please go read some hentai and get it out of your system.
@LostSpectre
My only point is simple:, the writer wanted to write a human that looks like a goblin. What this story is not is a story of a human becoming a traditional goblin. Also, one goblin changing the genetic habits of a whole species is absurd but ok in fiction.
Apr 9, 2024 12:44 PM

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@Zimzky Nah, read the thread, asshole.

@mods: This guy insinuates I desire rape. As is clear from my postings in this thread, it's about plausibility, not some personal desire for rape. This guy deserves punishment.
@MyllerPhiem Nah. You definitely desire rape, and practically admitted you would rape these women yourself, as the MC. lol

If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
Apr 9, 2024 12:45 PM

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My only point is simple:, the writer wanted to write a human that looks like a goblin. What this story is not is a story of a human becoming a traditional goblin. Also, one goblin changing the genetic habits of a whole species is absurd but ok in fiction.
@rohan121 It's a human who reincarnated as a goblin, if you thought they would abandon all their human morals, that kind of says a lot about you.
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@rohan121 It's a human who reincarnated as a goblin, if you thought they would abandon all their human morals, that kind of says a lot about you.
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Not saying human has to abandon all his morals now but the fact that other goblins follow his code comes off as strange.
Apr 9, 2024 12:56 PM

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Not saying human has to abandon all his morals now but the fact that other goblins follow his code comes off as strange.
@rohan121 No, the fuck it does not. He's much more powerful, and made a BRUTAL example of those who dare to disobey him.

He's also literally feeding them and training/teaching them how to evolve, when they would have been left to fend for themselves.
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Apr 9, 2024 1:06 PM

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Most people don't want rape in shows but this psycho is mad there was no rape lmao.
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@MyllerPhiem Literal fucking brainrot, this is a series where goblins evolve into more intelligent beings. Go read hentai.
@LostSpectre More intelligent goblins should be better at finding human women. You're equating "more intelligent" to "reaching human morality" which is a total non sequitur.

Honestly, your postings in this thread have been rather ... dumb.
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@MyllerPhiem Nah. You definitely desire rape, and practically admitted you would rape these women yourself, as the MC. lol

@LostSpectre Who's brain is rotting now? wow
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Apr 9, 2024 1:41 PM

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@rohan121 No, the fuck it does not. He's much more powerful, and made a BRUTAL example of those who dare to disobey him.

He's also literally feeding them and training/teaching them how to evolve, when they would have been left to fend for themselves.
@LostSpectre If he's that much stronger and behaves in a non-goblin way, then he's basically become a non-goblin and the other goblins should either fight him or run away.

Again, you seem incapable of understanding that you cannot change a species' very nature just by threatening them.
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drop it and go on a hike or something crybaby ass loser lmao
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This is why I hate MAL
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This is why I hate MAL
@Calal-Chan Yeah, the amount of dismissive drive-by posts is disheartening. I keep trying to have serious debates on MAL, but so many users just want to go "brabra, Jujutsu Kaisen the best, brebre!!1"
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@LostSpectre stop giving your time replying to these down bad mfs. They are just degenerates who just want to see rape

You and countless others have already countered OPs argument but the only thing he can come up with is "It should be this way because I think it should be" You're pretty much going in circles arguing with this guy so it's pointless
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@Calal-Chan Yeah, the amount of dismissive drive-by posts is disheartening. I keep trying to have serious debates on MAL, but so many users just want to go "brabra, Jujutsu Kaisen the best, brebre!!1"

Congratulations you've successfully made a clown of yourself, The guy who you replied to was saying he hated mal because of People like you who make pointless threads

You can keep going with your circular argument for as long as you want and embarrass yourself but no one's gonna stop you so please go on
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Yes, and how the entire tribe just went along with some pipsqueak asshole changing their traditional ways was ridiculous too. for some reason y'all argue over nothing here (wow rape is bad, yea no shit) but OP is absolutely right and I share their concerns. It's as if we aren't watching a pack of goblins but rather a modern human village who for some weird reason wear goblin skin.
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IhnalakoKaina said:
LostSpectre said:
The MC reincarnated as a goblin, but he has a different sense of morality because he used to be human, it's not that fucking complicated.

Bro is literally malding because the human women aren't being enslaved and raped like a typical goblin hentai or some shit. SMH

ejleon said:
This is not hentai dude, go to watch that if that’s what you want

The fact that I and these two dudes are on the same side on this just goes to show how fucking sick you are.

MyllerPhiem said:
@Tarrian I can rationalize all that. And I criticized that, too. But the behavior towards human women is just too crass and makes no sense. It's like MC being reborn as a lion and telling other lions "no more eating meat!".

Not quite. Killing to eat and raping for fun are arguably kinda different, don't you think? Like they said, these goblins have intelligence, language comprehension, and a means of reproduction within their own race. I know this will sound very fucking bad, but you could almost say that they are on the level of indigenous people. They just don't have civilization, which makes them barbaric and immoral. So when this guy comes along and begins acting humanely, suddenly his generation and everyone around him start becoming more powerful, almost like rape was holding them back. No, it was.

If you told a lion to not eat meat, the former would not happen. They don't have thumbs, so they can't do shit other than bite.

But none of that is relevant to the fact that you just said you want to see the kind of ugly ugly shit that would make a sane person's blood curdle and contact their local church for a second baptism. At least in gory shows like goblin slayer or berserk they get flattened, because no one wants to see them as MCs. (unless they become sanitized like this)

Nothing I said was “sick”, you are really off the wall with this claim.

As I said, the person wants to see humans raped by goblins and doesn’t like that this former human now goblin is introducing morality and ethnics to the group.

My statement about “watching hentai” was an insult to anyone who agrees with the OP.

People like that disguising and have something wrong with them.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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LostSpectre said:
The MC reincarnated as a goblin, but he has a different sense of morality because he used to be human, it's not that fucking complicated.

Bro is literally malding because the human women aren't being enslaved and raped like a typical goblin hentai or some shit. SMH

ejleon said:
This is not hentai dude, go to watch that if that’s what you want

The fact that I and these two dudes are on the same side on this just goes to show how fucking sick you are.

MyllerPhiem said:
@Tarrian I can rationalize all that. And I criticized that, too. But the behavior towards human women is just too crass and makes no sense. It's like MC being reborn as a lion and telling other lions "no more eating meat!".

Not quite. Killing to eat and raping for fun are arguably kinda different, don't you think? Like they said, these goblins have intelligence, language comprehension, and a means of reproduction within their own race. I know this will sound very fucking bad, but you could almost say that they are on the level of indigenous people. They just don't have civilization, which makes them barbaric and immoral. So when this guy comes along and begins acting humanely, suddenly his generation and everyone around him start becoming more powerful, almost like rape was holding them back. No, it was.

If you told a lion to not eat meat, the former would not happen. They don't have thumbs, so they can't do shit other than bite.

But none of that is relevant to the fact that you just said you want to see the kind of ugly ugly shit that would make a sane person's blood curdle and contact their local church for a second baptism. At least in gory shows like goblin slayer or berserk they get flattened, because no one wants to see them as MCs. (unless they become sanitized like this)
@IhnalakoKaina

I don’t see a previous comment from you, and you have not explained any context to what your point is, so your comment makes no sense at all.

Nothing I said was “sick”, you are really off the wall with this claim.

As I said, the person wants to see humans raped by goblins and doesn’t like that this former human now goblin is introducing morality and ethnics to the group.

My statement about “watching hentai” was to point out that regular anime doesn’t show this type of thing, except Goblin Slayer.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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@ejleon do you realize that I was saying I agree with you and lost spectre? I wasn't calling you sick, I was calling the op that because I agree with you. But indeed I'm sure the op now sees what I meant.
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IhnalakoKaina said:
@ejleon do you realize that I was saying I agree with you and lost spectre? I wasn't calling you sick, I was calling the op that because I agree with you. But indeed I'm sure the op now sees what I meant.

I sincerely apologize to you and ask your forgiveness.

I totally misread this as you addressing me and calling me sick.

I was totally wrong.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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Yes, and how the entire tribe just went along with some pipsqueak asshole changing their traditional ways was ridiculous too. for some reason y'all argue over nothing here (wow rape is bad, yea no shit) but OP is absolutely right and I share their concerns. It's as if we aren't watching a pack of goblins but rather a modern human village who for some weird reason wear goblin skin.
@Inexplicable Thx. I really should be easy to understand for anyone with basic reading comprehension. Instead we have a lot of negative iq-replies going "so you like rape". :|
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IhnalakoKaina said:
LostSpectre said:
The MC reincarnated as a goblin, but he has a different sense of morality because he used to be human, it's not that fucking complicated.

Bro is literally malding because the human women aren't being enslaved and raped like a typical goblin hentai or some shit. SMH

ejleon said:
This is not hentai dude, go to watch that if that’s what you want

The fact that I and these two dudes are on the same side on this just goes to show how fucking sick you are.

MyllerPhiem said:
@Tarrian I can rationalize all that. And I criticized that, too. But the behavior towards human women is just too crass and makes no sense. It's like MC being reborn as a lion and telling other lions "no more eating meat!".

Not quite. Killing to eat and raping for fun are arguably kinda different, don't you think? Like they said, these goblins have intelligence, language comprehension, and a means of reproduction within their own race. I know this will sound very fucking bad, but you could almost say that they are on the level of indigenous people. They just don't have civilization, which makes them barbaric and immoral. So when this guy comes along and begins acting humanely, suddenly his generation and everyone around him start becoming more powerful, almost like rape was holding them back. No, it was.

If you told a lion to not eat meat, the former would not happen. They don't have thumbs, so they can't do shit other than bite.

But none of that is relevant to the fact that you just said you want to see the kind of ugly ugly shit that would make a sane person's blood curdle and contact their local church for a second baptism. At least in gory shows like goblin slayer or berserk they get flattened, because no one wants to see them as MCs. (unless they become sanitized like this)

Nothing I said was “sick”, you are really off the wall with this claim.

As I said, the person wants to see humans raped by goblins and doesn’t like that this former human now goblin is introducing morality and ethnics to the group.

My statement about “watching hentai” was an insult to anyone who agrees with the OP.

People like that disguising and have something wrong with them.
@ejleon No, I don't want to "see humans raped by goblins". I want to see goblins being goblins. And they don't need to show the rape, just imply it and fade to black.
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@ejleon No, I don't want to "see humans raped by goblins". I want to see goblins being goblins. And they don't need to show the rape, just imply it and fade to black.

Yes, that’s what you said, so I do retract my statement, but your statement is saying that “Goblins can’t change”, “Goblins need to be Goblin”, yet why can’t they change from being regular goblins to more enlighten goblins?
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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@ejleon No, I don't want to "see humans raped by goblins". I want to see goblins being goblins. And they don't need to show the rape, just imply it and fade to black.

Yes, that’s what you said, so I do retract my statement, but your statement is saying that “Goblins can’t change”, “Goblins need to be Goblin”, yet why can’t they change from being regular goblins to more enlighten goblins?
@ejleon

1.) Because certain things are deeply ingrained in a species.

2.) IF it could be changed, then not by force and not this quickly.

You know what I would have accpted? If Goburou taught the other goblins to treat captured women nicely and court them, give the women a deadline within they must choose one of the goblins, and that's then "new way" then. It'd be a middleground between brutal rape and literally turning goblins into humans. But no, can't have that, the hero instantly pushes human morality on all the goblins.
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Apr 10, 2024 2:01 AM

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Yes, and how the entire tribe just went along with some pipsqueak asshole changing their traditional ways was ridiculous too. for some reason y'all argue over nothing here (wow rape is bad, yea no shit) but OP is absolutely right and I share their concerns. It's as if we aren't watching a pack of goblins but rather a modern human village who for some weird reason wear goblin skin.
@Inexplicable The reason the tribe goes along with his orders is completely fucking obvious, are you even paying attention?
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@LostSpectre stop giving your time replying to these down bad mfs. They are just degenerates who just want to see rape

You and countless others have already countered OPs argument but the only thing he can come up with is "It should be this way because I think it should be" You're pretty much going in circles arguing with this guy so it's pointless
@Kaitaka12 Yeah, I had my fun, I wasn't planning on entertaining this moron any further. I would actually give him more credit if he's just an edgy porn addict crying that there's no rape. Otherwise, imagine being fucking stupid enough to think that goblins in fiction can't be depicted as anything other than primitive murder/rape gremlins. He's probably just a troll, because he genuinely has awful takes every time he posts, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's actually this braindead.
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1.) Because certain things are deeply ingrained in a species.

2.) IF it could be changed, then not by force and not this quickly.

You know what I would have accpted? If Goburou taught the other goblins to treat captured women nicely and court them, give the women a deadline within they must choose one of the goblins, and that's then "new way" then. It'd be a middleground between brutal rape and literally turning goblins into humans. But no, can't have that, the hero instantly pushes human morality on all the goblins.

Taking your points into consideration, the episodes so far, and what I read about the story / characters.

Let’s say the goblins are portrayed as a more animalistic species that are controlled by their primitive urges, it seems true that more of the goblins would have been against what Rou was putting forth, due to not understanding such concepts, meaning that it would also take longer for Rou to convince them to change and be different.

In that same context, it seems like they are also ruled by the strongest goblin in the group, so the fight between the leader of the previous generation and the leader of the new generation, that being Rou, does fit this type of animalistic behavior.

So the rules set up by Rou, as the new leader, would need to be followed and enforced, as we saw in the same episode as this fight, Rou making a public example of those that didn’t follow the rules and did their own thing secretly.

I also agree that Rou teaching the Goblins to treat the women better and to court them into a relationship, instead of just completely restricting anything between them, would have improved relations between everyone, the goblins and the human women, making it so other relationships could develop amongst them.

(However, it seems like the author had other plans for those women and Rou.)

With this context, I would agree with your perspective on this anime.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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@Inexplicable The reason the tribe goes along with his orders is completely fucking obvious, are you even paying attention?
@LostSpectre That's not how it works, are you braindead?! If you were reborn as a lion and beat up the other lions, telling them "no more eating meat!", they wouldn't listen. They'd rather die figthting you than give up on what is so deeply part of their being.

You keep humanizing goblins, which, ironically, is exactly what the author did, too. And that's the fucking problem.
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i agree with the topic creator , this light novel / manga / anime is just a wish-fullfillment fantasy of the virgin incel writer . and the novel has many bad writings and many plot-holes .

re:monster , aka ret@rd:monster , lol .

the name of the main character (MC) is rou , aka bakayaROU , lol .

bakayaROU is just a selfish dictator animal . anyone , who doesnt obey its un-reasonable orders , will be punished .

bad writings :
a goblin gang killed all of the males of a human party , then they captured 5 human b!tches , then they just carried the b!tches through the forest for a few days , with big un-comfortable boners in their pants ?
yeah right , just another dog-sh!t nonsense from the writer , because when real goblins have a chance , they always rap* their captured "wife-s" immediately and ASAP .

the writer just wants the other goblins to act as grocery delivery boys , to deliver 5 virgin b!tches right to the mouth of the MC .

- bakayaROU : hey , i know that you are the ones who risked your life-s to capture these human "wife-s" , but could you let me f*ck them instead , pretty please ?

- bakayaROU : i gave the b!tches some soups that were made from human meat , or rat meat . i might be praising my own creation here because im a dog with a big ego , but even the sh!ts come out of my a$$ taste the most bestest . that is right , i eat my own sh!ts .
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I agree with other posts here that a big factor to consider is that he's a human reincarnated into a goblins body. It's entirely possible that the human value/experiences/instincts would override any inherent instincts/values/experiences of a Goblin, or channel them to make him live his life in different ways. They also showed how he won over the tribe to follow his rules, and I don't think we have seen enough of the show to explore deeper issues like what you want to see (why the tribe isn't fighting him or what goblin drivers they are having).

I don't follow the OPs logic with the storyline presented. It does feel like the OP is applying Goblin Slayer goblin character traits to this show...

The proposed alternative of a human isekaed into a goblin with no to limited control of their drivers/values/direction would make it less interesting for me as a watcher. I already know what goblins typically do in shows like Goblin Slayer, and the 1st ep already showed what their tribe did to date, so I don't want to see that again...

I might be in the minority in liking where this is headed. it's not the most excellent writing, but it's more interesting to me than seeing someone become a goblin and just live a Goblin Slayer life. To me you lose most of the audience when they don't agree with the MCs values or drivers. And based on how the show was progressing before the MC arrived, i don't think there was much where they could take the story.
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@rohan121 Thx, it's shocking that only so few people understand what I mean.

It's not about the rape per se, it's about PLAUSIBLE writing. Goblins rape, it's literally part of their biology, they procreate that way. In this anime, too, as we were shown.

Imagine a hero came from another world to you, and suddenly demands "everyone take off your clothes, clothes are evil!". Would you go naked? No, you'd fight back at all costs, because walking around naked goes against our very nature at this point in our civilization. But the author of this anime thinks he can just dismiss the goblins' very nature like that. It's poor, shallow writing, and like rohan121 correctly says: Clearly, he didn't want to write about goblins, it's just a random vehicle for all the other, generic isekai elements.
@MyllerPhiem Well they actually fought and lost to Rou, so that's why the aren't allowed to rape, also they tried later to rape the new humans and Rou stopped them, so then showed the rules to all the colony. I don't think that's bad writting, I mean, it's the law of the strongest.
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I was worried there were going to be rape scenes in the show. I'd rather watch hentai for that stuff. Still, I understand what OP's trying to get at here. 'Goblins gotta do goblin things, right?' My train of thought was the main protagonist (goblin) would become goblin king and restrict raping or fix their behavior and turn the series into the show similar to the Slime anime?

Was going to pick this up, but if turns out to be like another Slime anime route, probably skip on it. Cool character designs though, hopefully this show isn't over the top like Slime currently.

It's less like making a village with everyone and more like expanding his goblin group and evolving together, I also very much recommend the manga, it's a really fun read.
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Go watch Goblin no Suana on hanime instead dude.
@Zimzky Go get a brain dude
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I do feel like it was pussying out of the premise. The anime would've been way more unique if the mc went full goblin mode and discarded his human morality in order to help the race and tribe he reincarnated into flourish and prosper, but that kind of writing requires balls so big you won't find them anywhere near contemporary anime adaptations.
Even if we assume he was unable to get over his human self in less than a mere month (which is reasonable) and couldn't just allow the goblins to feast on those poor women, it could've been executed way better. However, that might've been the fault of the anime rushing things and skipping some parts of the original it attempts to adapt.
Also why do they even need human women, they have cute goblinas right there!
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I agree OP. Whole thing with group suicide is a lame joke. And then he went full-on human mode. Why even bother with goblin setting if you just throw away it almost instantly. Japanese goblins without rape and violence is dumb af. Even if author went with same direction but with severe consequences (actual tribe split at a minimum) and then explore consequences of banning goblin-human reproduction, then it would be more sane. The way story is told is too dumb, safe and uninteresting.
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