Yumemiru Danshi wa Genjitsushugisha Episode 6 Discussion

Markis86 said:
I just want to correct part  of this statement. Natsukawa wasn't limiting him, but he was limiting himself due to his behavior regarding her. He was the problem, not her. He is now gradually learning and finding new opportunities and hopefully we'll see him start gaining his confidence since he is actually, as we see many others notice about him, a great guy.

I like Kei, too, but they give me that friend, best buds, only vibe which is nice to see with no drama involved between the two rather than seeing the female friend attached to the female character as the connecting point and not really established with the male MC like in many others. Too bad, though, Kei so far has a good personality match and disposition as well it feels like, at least in some regards.

Unrelated, this episode felt oddly filler / pointless. I got vibes that new girl wont be important but we'll see. If she is it turns out okay, but if not it feels like a waste of an episode for such a minor fleeting moment with a limited episode count.
I'm surprised to see how much hate the main female lead gets. She hasn't actually treated the main character badly. If anything, she is being quite nice to him. I'm quite confused by some of the reactions. Granted, if this was a comment about her in the manga that would be another story entirely as she is utterly brutal if not abusive (fortunately, the adaptation is much improved over the early parts of the manga I read which was awful). Sure, she doesn't like him (at least not yet) but she is working on figuring out her feelings. You guys can't expect a girl to just be immediately responsive and fawn over confessing their love for a guy they don't yet actually love, especially considering how the MC was behaving before.

Markis86 said:
I just want to correct part  of this statement. Natsukawa wasn't limiting him, but he was limiting himself due to his behavior regarding her. He was the problem, not her. He is now gradually learning and finding new opportunities and hopefully we'll see him start gaining his confidence since he is actually, as we see many others notice about him, a great guy.

I like Kei, too, but they give me that friend, best buds, only vibe which is nice to see with no drama involved between the two rather than seeing the female friend attached to the female character as the connecting point and not really established with the male MC like in many others. Too bad, though, Kei so far has a good personality match and disposition as well it feels like, at least in some regards.

Unrelated, this episode felt oddly filler / pointless. I got vibes that new girl wont be important but we'll see. If she is it turns out okay, but if not it feels like a waste of an episode for such a minor fleeting moment with a limited episode count.
I'm surprised to see how much hate the main female lead gets. She hasn't actually treated the main character badly. If anything, she is being quite nice to him. I'm quite confused by some of the reactions. Granted, if this was a comment about her in the manga that would be another story entirely as she is utterly brutal if not abusive (fortunately, the adaptation is much improved over the early parts of the manga I read which was awful). Sure, she doesn't like him (at least not yet) but she is working on figuring out her feelings. You guys can't expect a girl to just be immediately responsive and fawn over confessing their love for a guy they don't yet actually love, especially considering how the MC was behaving before.

CorbanEsp said:

I can buy the part about him being limited by his obsesion, but the show tries to imply how Natsukawa wants things to return to that "normal", which would drag Wataru down again.
You say it feels like filler, but this new girl has made more to boost his confidence than all the heroines (outside of  Kei, but she goes on her own) combined, so we could consider this a pivotal moment for him. The one that the fight with his sister should have been but they treated as absolutely nothing with 0 values nor lessons learned.

SHlROHA said:
Figuring out her feelings? She has 2 years, 2 YEARS to figure things out and when Wataru decides to take a step forward and focus on himself then Aika gets all lonely all of a sudden, it's better go out with someone who's willing to cherish me than someone who is Aika. Clinging to false hope will slowly kill you. Maybe someone will tell (oh but she loves him, she's just a tsundere) tsundere is just good in anime not irl. (this is a realist anime after all)

Markis86 said:
This is just my take, mind you, but I believe she doesn't want to return specifically to the "normal of before" but to just having him around and she notices she misses his presence and lack of attention now that he is distant / gone. I believe she is basically confused about her feelings in the transition state of "something" moving towards -> "like / love" and doesn't really get her feelings yet or even the notion of what they actually entail while Kei as a third party clearly has better understanding of her emotions than she, herself, does. She is stumbling trying to figure how she feels out and also return to having the main character around her, but ideally in a healthier (though, overall, she probably doesn't know what type of relationship yet) manner.

I don't think the new episode is bad, but it feels like filler where this random girl from a college whom only really knows him at his current very temporary summer job will probably fall off the story when summer ends or is about over, soon. I could be wrong, mind you, and she could play a bigger role sticking around but I didn't get those vibes which, with the very limited episode count (less issue in a more detailed any length light novel, for instance) feels a bit wasteful for an entire episode to be slowly dedicated to when they could of sped up the pacing while including her. The episode, itself, I like as well as the new girl.

I didn't get the vibe that she will inspire his confidence though, tbh, but I could be proven wrong. This is the other reason it felt a bit pointless because she didn't instill any real changes in him, yet, such as confidence or anything. This could totally change, though, if she ends up playing a bigger part down the road or even if she is only there briefly during later episodes so my take on her value may end up wrong (to be seen).

The fight with the sister leaves me a bit mixed. It fleshes out his background, confidence issues, feelings and family relationship some. However, it doesn't actually change anything and just acts as an extension of various background story / character elements. He isn't improving or changing because of it which is a bit unfortunate, not even in a gradual way... though the whole student council / moral's committee aspects IF anything comes from them could be part of that route that invokes such a change eventually (remains to be seen). I still appreciated the section but wish they did more with it like, myself.

Not necessarily. Keep in mind 2 years of annoyance with the main character creating a sort of metaphorical barrier to progress and being partially / very annoying to her and the overall state of their relationship can readily result in a deadlocked progress and ignoring her feelings. Even the main character only after taking a step back begin to realize the impact on her and himself he was having all that time and why it was not good. There is also the saying that you don't know what you had until you lose it. Overall, while she might have actually liked him around which the other classmates seemed to believe to be the case as well, she likely didn't really understand or properly recognize the value of having him around in her life due to the unhealthy state of how the relationship was engaged. What they need going forward is to both understand their feelings and value and reach a healthier relationship state than the prior tag along pestering sidekick stalker type situation from before. Kei seems to have the best understanding of things between the two while the other two have various misgivings and issues like confidence problems, not understanding one's feelings, etc.

If you mean better to engage in a relationship with someone who will cherish him is a reference to the new girl, Fuuka Sasaki, then keep in mind they're also no where near progressed to such a point. They're merely brand new acquaintances and she has some interest in him due to both her unfamiliarity with boys, his nice actions towards her brother and her, she feels more comfortable around him, and potentially a developing but not yet there crush. That said, if this wasn't an anime I'd be willing to bet her odds of landing a good and happy relationship with MC are better than Aika's, at least for now, but this neglects the fact that the MC actually does really like Aika so even if he might be somewhat interested in the nice pretty girl or whatever showing interest in him he might not actually be willing to date her (yet) and will need time for his feelings to change or sort them and make a decision.

Tsundere are fine in real life. Aika hasn't actually done anything wrong or mean, and she isn't even the typical full tsundere. She just knows she wants him around somewhat but doesn't quite get her feelings or have the confidence to speak to him properly. She isn't being mean really or doing anything bad or hurtful to his confidence. In fact, in real life most people don't have actual ability to show humility or honesty with their feelings in situations that make them nervous, or often with issues like making a mistake.