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Oct 10, 2021 11:36 AM
#51
Render_1 said: I mean it was okay but what the hell was the ending??? how are two people gonna come find 1 child, with a dog happy and free and think logically "hm yes this is a smuggler" and then kidnap him without even speaking first, plus if the guy could smell the children leaving, why did they go there anyway? (other than maybe for the dog, but surely they could split up????) “Don’t worry about it” Sun Tzu, art of war |
Oct 10, 2021 11:36 AM
#52
They knew I was gonna skip the opening so they made it part of the episode. 200IQ pro gamer move. Very good episode, no flaws at all. |
Oct 10, 2021 11:48 AM
#53
Render_1 said: He came there and found the proud and revered Sacred Beast laying on a top of a guy (There are halflings and other races, so just because he looks like a child doesn't mean he really is; Look at Roxy, she's over 40) with a perverted grin who was touching it "inappropriately" and smelled he's getting excited... I mean it was okay but what the hell was the ending??? how are two people gonna come find 1 child, with a dog happy and free and think logically "hm yes this is a smuggler" and then kidnap him without even speaking first, plus if the guy could smell the children leaving, why did they go there anyway? (other than maybe for the dog, but surely they could split up????) So he obviously didn't really think he's the smuggler, but was so furious at him for acting the way he did towards their object of worship his mind clouded, he incapacitated him and suggested he is one of the kidnappers and to immediately execute him. You could see his father's reaction was quite different. They went there because someone gave them a tip that about the children there. And when they came they found out they were indeed there before, but noticed (by smell) they've left. So they found out they left after arriving there and thus couldn't split up before |
Oct 10, 2021 11:51 AM
#54
JanPri said: Render_1 said: He came there and found the proud and revered Sacred Beast laying on a top of a guy (There are halflings and other races, so just because he looks like a child doesn't mean he really is; Look at Roxy, she's over 40) with a perverted grin who was touching it "inappropriately" and smelled he's getting excited... I mean it was okay but what the hell was the ending??? how are two people gonna come find 1 child, with a dog happy and free and think logically "hm yes this is a smuggler" and then kidnap him without even speaking first, plus if the guy could smell the children leaving, why did they go there anyway? (other than maybe for the dog, but surely they could split up????) So he obviously didn't really think he's the smuggler, but was so furious at him for acting the way he did towards their object of worship his mind clouded, he incapacitated him and suggested he is one of the kidnappers and to immediately execute him. You could see his father's reaction was quite different. They went there because someone gave them a tip that about the children there. And when they came they found out they were indeed there before, but noticed (by smell) they've left. So they've found out they left after arriving there and thus couldn't split up before right but still why attack him and run off? he clearly couldn't have defended himself, they could have just yelled and asked what he was doing, and then if he didn't speak their language/respond well they could attack, I highly doubt they'd assume a child could hear them 2v1 lol, I get the confusion it's just such an over reaction to the point of making no sense imo |
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Oct 10, 2021 11:54 AM
#55
Render_1 said: I mean it was okay but what the hell was the ending??? how are two people gonna come find 1 child, with a dog happy and free and think logically "hm yes this is a smuggler" and then kidnap him without even speaking first, plus if the guy could smell the children leaving, why did they go there anyway? (other than maybe for the dog, but surely they could split up????) Near the cursed part of the episode it is nothing, and easy to bypass. - The blower beast-guy came to rescue the dog and found a person "profanating" it. - By the reaction of the dog, the damn beast-people don't pet him properly, so we can understand why the guy thought it wrong. - Despite the corpses of the smugglers, the kid could be another one, so he "finished" him without to think before he could make the dog a hostage. Better be safe than sorry. - The old beastman came for the kids, and proceed following the kids. Nothing wrong here. - Then the intemperate beastman takes the boy with him for proper interrogation. If was really clear that Rudeus could be another smuggler, Rudeus would be dead by now. - Btw, Ruijerd didnt asked the smugglers about their backstory to understand who was doing that by purpose and who was there by other circunstances. Certainly some dead guys there was not taking part in the child-torturing or aproving it. So nothing really wrong with all this event. Render_1 said: right but still why attack him and run off? he clearly couldn't have defended himself, they could have just yelled and asked what he was doing, and then if he didn't speak their language/respond well they could attack, I highly doubt they'd assume a child could hear them 2v1 lol, I get the confusion it's just such an over reaction to the point of making no sense imo Rudeus, if a bad guy, could use this time to make the dog a hostage. I doubt that if instead of the beastguy, the rescuing man was Ruijerd, Rudeus would be alive by now. martin12165 said: They knew I was gonna skip the opening so they made it part of the episode. 200IQ pro gamer move. Very good episode, no flaws at all. ? But MT has no proper OP visuals, since 1st season every episode is like this, with sequence of scenes under the OP song. |
Rob7Oct 10, 2021 11:59 AM
Oct 10, 2021 11:55 AM
#56
Render_1 said: JanPri said: Render_1 said: I mean it was okay but what the hell was the ending??? how are two people gonna come find 1 child, with a dog happy and free and think logically "hm yes this is a smuggler" and then kidnap him without even speaking first, plus if the guy could smell the children leaving, why did they go there anyway? (other than maybe for the dog, but surely they could split up????) So he obviously didn't really think he's the smuggler, but was so furious at him for acting the way he did towards their object of worship his mind clouded, he incapacitated him and suggested he is one of the kidnappers and to immediately execute him. You could see his father's reaction was quite different. They went there because someone gave them a tip that about the children there. And when they came they found out they were indeed there before, but noticed (by smell) they've left. So they've found out they left after arriving there and thus couldn't split up before right but still why attack him and run off? he clearly couldn't have defended himself, they could have just yelled and asked what he was doing, and then if he didn't speak their language/respond well they could attack, I highly doubt they'd assume a child could hear them 2v1 lol, I get the confusion it's just such an over reaction to the point of making no sense imo Literally explained above though... There are races that look like children but aren't, and informing the unknown person right next to the object of worship about their presence isn't exactly a bright idea. |
Oct 10, 2021 11:57 AM
#57
Mushoku Mondays are upon us, and this episode is JAMPACKED AS FUCK of things to say. My goodness for a viewer like me who likes to see little references and jokes in every episode, this in particular will make my post a full blown essay...I see no wrong there xD. Ah Elina, what a thirsty nymphomaniac you are. She's literally a magnet for gangbangs, and I can't believe that came out of my head in this instance. Sure like Tallhand has witnessed this time and time again for years (basically numbed out of it). And yo Roxy being in a party in the past where she just served as a comfort blob to the men, that is interesting and weird at the same time, nice Roxy reflection though. There were so many times that Roxy and Rudy could've met but nope circumstances after circumstances led them to venture just slightly off course, looks like the reunion will not happen soon. And yo I appreciate that dream scene that Rudy had, with a weird Jack and Rose pose from Titanic to boot. Feels nice and you gotta have a dose of fanservice from time to time. Another massa[redacted] again from Rujierd, geez when he pops, he really pops some lives...anyways. It was a surprise to see that Rudy was misunderstood by them beasts because of the sacred beast (which was also a surprise to me, but he's cute though). This was a surprise turn of events, so where the hell is the story going to go this time? |
Oct 10, 2021 11:58 AM
#58
The amount of time rudy and roxy missed each other during the last episode boggled me to death |
Oct 10, 2021 11:58 AM
#59
Rob7 said: Render_1 said: I mean it was okay but what the hell was the ending??? how are two people gonna come find 1 child, with a dog happy and free and think logically "hm yes this is a smuggler" and then kidnap him without even speaking first, plus if the guy could smell the children leaving, why did they go there anyway? (other than maybe for the dog, but surely they could split up????) Near the cursed part of the episode it is nothing, and easy to bypass. - The blower Elf guy came to rescue the dog and found a kid "profanating" it. - By the reaction of the dog, the damn elfs don't pet him properly, so we can understand why the guy thought it wrong. - Despite the corpses of the smugglers, the kid could be another one, so he "finished" him without to think before he could make the dog a hostage. Better be safe than sorry. - The old elf came for the kids, and proceed following the kids. Nothing wrong here. - Then the intemperate elf takes the boy with him for proper interrogation. If was really clear that Rudeus could be another smuggler, Rudeus would be dead by now. - Btw, Ruijerd didnt asked the smugglers about their backstory to understand who was doing that by purpose and who was there by other circunstances. Certainly some dead guys there was not taking part in the child-torturing or aproving it. So nothing really wrong with all this event. martin12165 said: They knew I was gonna skip the opening so they made it part of the episode. 200IQ pro gamer move. Very good episode, no flaws at all. ? But MT has no proper OP visuals, since 1st season every episode is like this, with sequence of scenes under the OP song. why not just knock him out or restrain him and ask him though, especially when searching for missing children? just poorly thought out, plus whatever the killed the over smugglers would have killed him if he was one. as for them splitting in the end, he can smell exactly the direction they are going whole underground, he sure as hell could have figured it out above ground, why didn't he split first is what I mean here. |
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Oct 10, 2021 12:00 PM
#60
The contrast between the violent/vicious scenes and the raunchy humor is something else. You go from the pretty funny desert island fantasy and "whale" scene to the nastiness occurring in the dungeon. Pretty dissonant, but it adds the outwordly feel of the world they are in. Elinaelise really goes all out doesn't she? Characters like her are seldom outside of borderline hentai |
"Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
Oct 10, 2021 12:01 PM
#61
Altter said: Render_1 said: JanPri said: Render_1 said: He came there and found the proud and revered Sacred Beast laying on a top of a guy (There are halflings and other races, so just because he looks like a child doesn't mean he really is; Look at Roxy, she's over 40) with a perverted grin who was touching it "inappropriately" and smelled he's getting excited... I mean it was okay but what the hell was the ending??? how are two people gonna come find 1 child, with a dog happy and free and think logically "hm yes this is a smuggler" and then kidnap him without even speaking first, plus if the guy could smell the children leaving, why did they go there anyway? (other than maybe for the dog, but surely they could split up????) So he obviously didn't really think he's the smuggler, but was so furious at him for acting the way he did towards their object of worship his mind clouded, he incapacitated him and suggested he is one of the kidnappers and to immediately execute him. You could see his father's reaction was quite different. They went there because someone gave them a tip that about the children there. And when they came they found out they were indeed there before, but noticed (by smell) they've left. So they've found out they left after arriving there and thus couldn't split up before right but still why attack him and run off? he clearly couldn't have defended himself, they could have just yelled and asked what he was doing, and then if he didn't speak their language/respond well they could attack, I highly doubt they'd assume a child could hear them 2v1 lol, I get the confusion it's just such an over reaction to the point of making no sense imo Literally explained above though... There are races that look like children but aren't, and informing the unknown person right next to the object of worship about their presence isn't exactly a bright idea. they are clearly powerful enough to just restrain him to the point of being able to speak, and sure take his weapon or whatever but it just doesn't make sense to consider him a smuggler. and they should have been able to smell the children before going underground, unless smell somehow travels better there (it wouldn't), surely the children are important enough for one of them to go after |
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Oct 10, 2021 12:02 PM
#62
Render_1 said: why not just knock him out or restrain him and ask him though, especially when searching for missing children? just poorly thought out, plus whatever the killed the over smugglers would have killed him if he was one. as for them splitting in the end, he can smell exactly the direction they are going whole underground, he sure as hell could have figured it out above ground, why didn't he split first is what I mean here. You're missing something here. One side is their Sacred Beast, one side is the children. Guess which one is more important? |
Oct 10, 2021 12:03 PM
#63
Render_1 said: why not just knock him out or restrain him and ask him though, especially when searching for missing children? just poorly thought out, plus whatever the killed the over smugglers would have killed him if he was one. as for them splitting in the end, he can smell exactly the direction they are going whole underground, he sure as hell could have figured it out above ground, why didn't he split first is what I mean here. "why not just knock him out or restrain him and ask him though" He is exactly going to do it, but in a safer place, right? Or for the sake of your argument the beastguy should let down his guard there in the smugglers hideout? "especially when searching for missing children?" The other guy is taking care of the search for the children. The younger man priority is the sacred dog. They obviously splited cause of this. |
Oct 10, 2021 12:05 PM
#64
Render_1 said: I'm not sure how else should I explain it to you...JanPri said: Render_1 said: I mean it was okay but what the hell was the ending??? how are two people gonna come find 1 child, with a dog happy and free and think logically "hm yes this is a smuggler" and then kidnap him without even speaking first, plus if the guy could smell the children leaving, why did they go there anyway? (other than maybe for the dog, but surely they could split up????) So he obviously didn't really think he's the smuggler, but was so furious at him for acting the way he did towards their object of worship his mind clouded, he incapacitated him and suggested he is one of the kidnappers and to immediately execute him. You could see his father's reaction was quite different. They went there because someone gave them a tip that about the children there. And when they came they found out they were indeed there before, but noticed (by smell) they've left. So they've found out they left after arriving there and thus couldn't split up before right but still why attack him and run off? he clearly couldn't have defended himself, they could have just yelled and asked what he was doing, and then if he didn't speak their language/respond well they could attack, I highly doubt they'd assume a child could hear them 2v1 lol, I get the confusion it's just such an over reaction to the point of making no sense imo right but still why attack him and run off? The younger guy (Let's not say his name yet) "attacked" him because he was furious to see some stranger getting too close and comfy with their worshipped idol. He didn't really think about it. As you could see, when his father came his reaction was far more mature and calmer. His son was just pissed off. You don't know how important that dog is. He ran off with him because his father ordered him to. Why? Because they've found someone in the den of kidnappers full of corpses with their Sacred Beast he clearly couldn't have defended himself, they could have just yelled and asked what he was doing, and then if he didn't speak their language/respond well they could attack He could. I mean, they can't know it but as someone who has mastered silent spell-casting he could defend himself if it came to it. Also, the younger guy really just yelled at him. He didn't harm him in any way, it's just that their voice has an ability to incapacitate their oponent. After that they (Well, the only one willing would be the father, I guess) really couldn't talk to him, as he can't move. |
JanPriOct 10, 2021 12:08 PM
Oct 10, 2021 12:06 PM
#65
Rudy continues to be the most despicable and unlikeable character in all of anime. |
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Oct 10, 2021 12:06 PM
#66
Altter said: Render_1 said: why not just knock him out or restrain him and ask him though, especially when searching for missing children? just poorly thought out, plus whatever the killed the over smugglers would have killed him if he was one. as for them splitting in the end, he can smell exactly the direction they are going whole underground, he sure as hell could have figured it out above ground, why didn't he split first is what I mean here. You're missing something here. One side is their Sacred Beast, one side is the children. Guess which one is more important? there's two of them, and they have a good enough sense of smell to detect people from far away, they should be able to tell to split up |
Call me Ren |
Oct 10, 2021 12:07 PM
#67
Rob7 said: Render_1 said: why not just knock him out or restrain him and ask him though, especially when searching for missing children? just poorly thought out, plus whatever the killed the over smugglers would have killed him if he was one. as for them splitting in the end, he can smell exactly the direction they are going whole underground, he sure as hell could have figured it out above ground, why didn't he split first is what I mean here. "why not just knock him out or restrain him and ask him though" He is exactly going to do it, but in a safer place, right? Or for the sake of your argument the beastguy should let down his guard there in the smugglers hideout? "especially when searching for missing children?" The other guy is taking care of the search for the children. The younger man priority is the sacred dog. They obviously splited cause of this. judging from the fact rudeus couldn't speak, no they just fully incapacitated him, I think they'd be more than confident enough to just fully restrain him. and again, they should have split before |
Call me Ren |
Oct 10, 2021 12:08 PM
#68
Render_1 said: Altter said: Render_1 said: why not just knock him out or restrain him and ask him though, especially when searching for missing children? just poorly thought out, plus whatever the killed the over smugglers would have killed him if he was one. as for them splitting in the end, he can smell exactly the direction they are going whole underground, he sure as hell could have figured it out above ground, why didn't he split first is what I mean here. You're missing something here. One side is their Sacred Beast, one side is the children. Guess which one is more important? there's two of them, and they have a good enough sense of smell to detect people from far away, they should be able to tell to split up Same answer For all they care the children could be all dead as long as the beast is safe |
Oct 10, 2021 12:09 PM
#69
JanPri said: Render_1 said: I'm not sure how else should I explain it to you...JanPri said: Render_1 said: He came there and found the proud and revered Sacred Beast laying on a top of a guy (There are halflings and other races, so just because he looks like a child doesn't mean he really is; Look at Roxy, she's over 40) with a perverted grin who was touching it "inappropriately" and smelled he's getting excited... I mean it was okay but what the hell was the ending??? how are two people gonna come find 1 child, with a dog happy and free and think logically "hm yes this is a smuggler" and then kidnap him without even speaking first, plus if the guy could smell the children leaving, why did they go there anyway? (other than maybe for the dog, but surely they could split up????) So he obviously didn't really think he's the smuggler, but was so furious at him for acting the way he did towards their object of worship his mind clouded, he incapacitated him and suggested he is one of the kidnappers and to immediately execute him. You could see his father's reaction was quite different. They went there because someone gave them a tip that about the children there. And when they came they found out they were indeed there before, but noticed (by smell) they've left. So they've found out they left after arriving there and thus couldn't split up before right but still why attack him and run off? he clearly couldn't have defended himself, they could have just yelled and asked what he was doing, and then if he didn't speak their language/respond well they could attack, I highly doubt they'd assume a child could hear them 2v1 lol, I get the confusion it's just such an over reaction to the point of making no sense imo right but still why attack him and run off? The younger guy (Let's not say his name yet) "attacked" him because he was furious to see some stranger getting too close and comfy with their worshipped idol. He didn't really think about it. As you could see, when his father came his reaction was far more mature and calmer. His son was just pissed off. You don't know how important that dog is. He ran off with him because his father ordered him to. Why? Because they've found someone in the den of kidnappers full of corpses with their Sacred Beast he clearly couldn't have defended himself, they could have just yelled and asked what he was doing, and then if he didn't speak their language/respond well they could attack He could. I mean, they can't know it but as someone who has mastered silent spell-casting he could defend himself if it came to it. Also, the younger guy really just yelled at him. He didn't harm him in any way, it's just that their voice has an ability to incapacitate their oponent. After that they (Well, the only one willing would be the father, I guess) really couldn't talk to him. my main issue is that it made him unable to talk, he should be a goldmine of information and you just silence him? doesn't check out. (and that they should have split after smelling the children beforehand) |
Call me Ren |
Oct 10, 2021 12:09 PM
#70
Render_1 said: Rob7 said: Render_1 said: why not just knock him out or restrain him and ask him though, especially when searching for missing children? just poorly thought out, plus whatever the killed the over smugglers would have killed him if he was one. as for them splitting in the end, he can smell exactly the direction they are going whole underground, he sure as hell could have figured it out above ground, why didn't he split first is what I mean here. "why not just knock him out or restrain him and ask him though" He is exactly going to do it, but in a safer place, right? Or for the sake of your argument the beastguy should let down his guard there in the smugglers hideout? "especially when searching for missing children?" The other guy is taking care of the search for the children. The younger man priority is the sacred dog. They obviously splited cause of this. judging from the fact rudeus couldn't speak, no they just fully incapacitated him, I think they'd be more than confident enough to just fully restrain him. and again, they should have split before You do realize that they just incapacitated someone with just their voices right? What's wrong about assuming the enemy can do that too? |
Oct 10, 2021 12:11 PM
#71
Can someone tell me how the smuggling deal worked, if I'm right it was skipped in the anime and I don't read the LN. But what I speculate happened is that they get them to millis continent in return for helping them smuggle stuff. Am I right? Skipping some small things doesn't seem like a big issue to me, I mean some of those can be easily imagined by oneself, like the smuggle scenario that I just made up without any idea, I'm not sure if it's exactly what happened but it fits the storyline so |
Oct 10, 2021 12:13 PM
#72
Good to see more of Roxy. She's so pure and innocent whereas Elinalise is something else. XD Ruijerd brutally killed that guy. He really held in that anger for so long. |
Oct 10, 2021 12:13 PM
#73
Altter said: Render_1 said: Rob7 said: Render_1 said: why not just knock him out or restrain him and ask him though, especially when searching for missing children? just poorly thought out, plus whatever the killed the over smugglers would have killed him if he was one. as for them splitting in the end, he can smell exactly the direction they are going whole underground, he sure as hell could have figured it out above ground, why didn't he split first is what I mean here. "why not just knock him out or restrain him and ask him though" He is exactly going to do it, but in a safer place, right? Or for the sake of your argument the beastguy should let down his guard there in the smugglers hideout? "especially when searching for missing children?" The other guy is taking care of the search for the children. The younger man priority is the sacred dog. They obviously splited cause of this. judging from the fact rudeus couldn't speak, no they just fully incapacitated him, I think they'd be more than confident enough to just fully restrain him. and again, they should have split before You do realize that they just incapacitated someone with just their voices right? What's wrong about assuming the enemy can do that too? pretty fair point I guess, can I bring up the fact the children didn't start with "hey look that's our sacred beast in that cage we just walked past, how about we free it now", they clearly passed it on the way in, so I assume they did on the way out aswell, might be a bit more compelling of an argument as to why to save it in the first place |
Call me Ren |
Oct 10, 2021 12:15 PM
#74
Altter said: Render_1 said: Altter said: Render_1 said: why not just knock him out or restrain him and ask him though, especially when searching for missing children? just poorly thought out, plus whatever the killed the over smugglers would have killed him if he was one. as for them splitting in the end, he can smell exactly the direction they are going whole underground, he sure as hell could have figured it out above ground, why didn't he split first is what I mean here. You're missing something here. One side is their Sacred Beast, one side is the children. Guess which one is more important? there's two of them, and they have a good enough sense of smell to detect people from far away, they should be able to tell to split up Same answer For all they care the children could be all dead as long as the beast is safe alright let's assume that's the reason, why didn't the children point out the beasts importantance, assuming they went out the same way they came in, they should have seen it, if its so important to their species why don't the children know about it, and how the hell did they let it get captured by some people who were easily defeated edit: and why did they split up in the end then |
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Oct 10, 2021 12:15 PM
#75
CreepHazard said: Can someone tell me how the smuggling deal worked, if I'm right it was skipped in the anime and I don't read the LN. But what I speculate happened is that they get them to millis continent in return for helping them smuggle stuff. Am I right? Skipping some small things doesn't seem like a big issue to me, I mean some of those can be easily imagined by oneself, like the smuggle scenario that I just made up without any idea, I'm not sure if it's exactly what happened but it fits the storyline so The deal (as least what the shady guy told them) is that the shady guy help them cross the sea in exchange for them recusing the "goods". The shady is on the same smuggler ring but is rival with the one in this episode want to weaken them so that he can gain more power within the ring. |
Oct 10, 2021 12:16 PM
#76
Render_1 said: Ok, last reply because this is really going nowhere. His son is very impulsive, ok? He saw Rudeus, got pissed off, without thinking incapacitated him and wanted to preferably off him right then and there for desecrating their dog. He didn't think about "gathering informations" or anything. JanPri said: Render_1 said: JanPri said: Render_1 said: He came there and found the proud and revered Sacred Beast laying on a top of a guy (There are halflings and other races, so just because he looks like a child doesn't mean he really is; Look at Roxy, she's over 40) with a perverted grin who was touching it "inappropriately" and smelled he's getting excited... I mean it was okay but what the hell was the ending??? how are two people gonna come find 1 child, with a dog happy and free and think logically "hm yes this is a smuggler" and then kidnap him without even speaking first, plus if the guy could smell the children leaving, why did they go there anyway? (other than maybe for the dog, but surely they could split up????) So he obviously didn't really think he's the smuggler, but was so furious at him for acting the way he did towards their object of worship his mind clouded, he incapacitated him and suggested he is one of the kidnappers and to immediately execute him. You could see his father's reaction was quite different. They went there because someone gave them a tip that about the children there. And when they came they found out they were indeed there before, but noticed (by smell) they've left. So they've found out they left after arriving there and thus couldn't split up before right but still why attack him and run off? he clearly couldn't have defended himself, they could have just yelled and asked what he was doing, and then if he didn't speak their language/respond well they could attack, I highly doubt they'd assume a child could hear them 2v1 lol, I get the confusion it's just such an over reaction to the point of making no sense imo right but still why attack him and run off? The younger guy (Let's not say his name yet) "attacked" him because he was furious to see some stranger getting too close and comfy with their worshipped idol. He didn't really think about it. As you could see, when his father came his reaction was far more mature and calmer. His son was just pissed off. You don't know how important that dog is. He ran off with him because his father ordered him to. Why? Because they've found someone in the den of kidnappers full of corpses with their Sacred Beast he clearly couldn't have defended himself, they could have just yelled and asked what he was doing, and then if he didn't speak their language/respond well they could attack my main issue is that it made him unable to talk, he should be a goldmine of information and you just silence him? doesn't check out. (and that they should have split after smelling the children beforehand) Opens the door, sees a guy touching their most important and worshipped animal, gets pissed off, screams, incapacitates the guy, kills him. Got it? And they couldn't smell a shit before because it smells like blood everywhere. They realised where the smells' coming from (where the kids are) after they reached their destination |
Oct 10, 2021 12:16 PM
#77
Render_1 said: Altter said: Render_1 said: Altter said: Render_1 said: why not just knock him out or restrain him and ask him though, especially when searching for missing children? just poorly thought out, plus whatever the killed the over smugglers would have killed him if he was one. as for them splitting in the end, he can smell exactly the direction they are going whole underground, he sure as hell could have figured it out above ground, why didn't he split first is what I mean here. You're missing something here. One side is their Sacred Beast, one side is the children. Guess which one is more important? there's two of them, and they have a good enough sense of smell to detect people from far away, they should be able to tell to split up Same answer For all they care the children could be all dead as long as the beast is safe alright let's assume that's the reason, why didn't the children point out the beasts importantance, assuming they went out the same way they came in, they should have seen it, if its so important to their species why don't the children know about it, and how the hell did they let it get captured by some people who were easily defeated edit: and why did they split up in the end then They didn't go the same way. If you look carefully they got in through the house and got out in the middle of the forest. |
Oct 10, 2021 12:17 PM
#78
Stark700 said: I have to agree that i found the first half silly too until like rudy went to that "basement" although it left me w/ suspense ,makes me wanna go to the manga tbhTHIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Glad to see Roxy back again this season and looks like she's searching for Rudy. I found the first half of the episode pretty silly until it got darker. Those slaves stuck like birds in a cage looks miserable. Just another cruel reality in their world I guess. At least Rudy is doing his part to help them. |
Oct 10, 2021 12:21 PM
#79
Altter said: Render_1 said: Altter said: Render_1 said: Altter said: Render_1 said: why not just knock him out or restrain him and ask him though, especially when searching for missing children? just poorly thought out, plus whatever the killed the over smugglers would have killed him if he was one. as for them splitting in the end, he can smell exactly the direction they are going whole underground, he sure as hell could have figured it out above ground, why didn't he split first is what I mean here. You're missing something here. One side is their Sacred Beast, one side is the children. Guess which one is more important? there's two of them, and they have a good enough sense of smell to detect people from far away, they should be able to tell to split up Same answer For all they care the children could be all dead as long as the beast is safe alright let's assume that's the reason, why didn't the children point out the beasts importantance, assuming they went out the same way they came in, they should have seen it, if its so important to their species why don't the children know about it, and how the hell did they let it get captured by some people who were easily defeated edit: and why did they split up in the end then They didn't go the same way. If you look carefully they got in through the house and got out in the middle of the forest. bit weird to go a different way despite knowing the first was safe but fair enough JanPri said: Render_1 said: Ok, last reply because this is really going nowhere. His son is very impulsive, ok? He saw Rudeus, got pissed off, without thinking incapacitated him and wanted to preferably off him right then and there for desecrating their dog. He didn't think about "gathering informations" or anything. JanPri said: Render_1 said: I'm not sure how else should I explain it to you...JanPri said: Render_1 said: He came there and found the proud and revered Sacred Beast laying on a top of a guy (There are halflings and other races, so just because he looks like a child doesn't mean he really is; Look at Roxy, she's over 40) with a perverted grin who was touching it "inappropriately" and smelled he's getting excited... I mean it was okay but what the hell was the ending??? how are two people gonna come find 1 child, with a dog happy and free and think logically "hm yes this is a smuggler" and then kidnap him without even speaking first, plus if the guy could smell the children leaving, why did they go there anyway? (other than maybe for the dog, but surely they could split up????) So he obviously didn't really think he's the smuggler, but was so furious at him for acting the way he did towards their object of worship his mind clouded, he incapacitated him and suggested he is one of the kidnappers and to immediately execute him. You could see his father's reaction was quite different. They went there because someone gave them a tip that about the children there. And when they came they found out they were indeed there before, but noticed (by smell) they've left. So they've found out they left after arriving there and thus couldn't split up before right but still why attack him and run off? he clearly couldn't have defended himself, they could have just yelled and asked what he was doing, and then if he didn't speak their language/respond well they could attack, I highly doubt they'd assume a child could hear them 2v1 lol, I get the confusion it's just such an over reaction to the point of making no sense imo right but still why attack him and run off? The younger guy (Let's not say his name yet) "attacked" him because he was furious to see some stranger getting too close and comfy with their worshipped idol. He didn't really think about it. As you could see, when his father came his reaction was far more mature and calmer. His son was just pissed off. You don't know how important that dog is. He ran off with him because his father ordered him to. Why? Because they've found someone in the den of kidnappers full of corpses with their Sacred Beast he clearly couldn't have defended himself, they could have just yelled and asked what he was doing, and then if he didn't speak their language/respond well they could attack He could. I mean, they can't know it but as someone who has mastered silent spell-casting he could defend himself if it came to it. Also, the younger guy really just yelled at him. He didn't harm him in any way, it's just that their voice has an ability to incapacitate their oponent. After that they (Well, the only one willing would be the father, I guess) really couldn't talk to him. my main issue is that it made him unable to talk, he should be a goldmine of information and you just silence him? doesn't check out. (and that they should have split after smelling the children beforehand) Opens the door, sees a guy touching their most important and worshipped animal, gets pissed off, screams, incapacitates the guy, kills him. Got it? And they couldn't smell a shit before because it smells like blood everywhere. They realised where the smells' coming from (where the kids are) after they reached their destination blood in the forest they just came through? sure lol but yeah this is going nowhere I don't expect a reply Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
babyakiNov 4, 2021 2:33 PM
Call me Ren |
Oct 10, 2021 12:22 PM
#80
CreepHazard said: Gallus smuggles Ruijerd across the sea in exchange for Rudy releasing/helping to escape some goods on the other side of the sea in Millis. The smugglers there don't know it though and expect Rudy to just come to collect his Superd and then get out of there (That's what Gallus told them). Can someone tell me how the smuggling deal worked, if I'm right it was skipped in the anime and I don't read the LN. But what I speculate happened is that they get them to millis continent in return for helping them smuggle stuff. Am I right? Skipping some small things doesn't seem like a big issue to me, I mean some of those can be easily imagined by oneself, like the smuggle scenario that I just made up without any idea, I'm not sure if it's exactly what happened but it fits the storyline so As you can see, even though all of them seem to be smugglers/kidnappers there's actually a whole lot of competing fractions that try to best and weaken the others |
Oct 10, 2021 12:28 PM
#81
Render_1 said: how the hell did they let it get captured by some people who were easily defeated Just because they're defeated by Ruijerd doesn't mean they are weak. The proper reason should be explained later. But basically, proud (and pretty brainless) race vs deceptive smugglers. The children not being comparable to the Beast doesn't mean they are not important. After the Beast is safe, if they can save the children, they would. |
Oct 10, 2021 12:30 PM
#82
Render_1 said: Well, in the LN they were not in the underground but on the surface and all the dead bodies were dragged into the forest and then set aflame by Rudeus, so I guess that depending on the wind the smell of their blood and burning meat might overpowered and basically "hid" any other smells.JanPri said: Render_1 said: JanPri said: Render_1 said: I'm not sure how else should I explain it to you...JanPri said: Render_1 said: He came there and found the proud and revered Sacred Beast laying on a top of a guy (There are halflings and other races, so just because he looks like a child doesn't mean he really is; Look at Roxy, she's over 40) with a perverted grin who was touching it "inappropriately" and smelled he's getting excited... I mean it was okay but what the hell was the ending??? how are two people gonna come find 1 child, with a dog happy and free and think logically "hm yes this is a smuggler" and then kidnap him without even speaking first, plus if the guy could smell the children leaving, why did they go there anyway? (other than maybe for the dog, but surely they could split up????) So he obviously didn't really think he's the smuggler, but was so furious at him for acting the way he did towards their object of worship his mind clouded, he incapacitated him and suggested he is one of the kidnappers and to immediately execute him. You could see his father's reaction was quite different. They went there because someone gave them a tip that about the children there. And when they came they found out they were indeed there before, but noticed (by smell) they've left. So they've found out they left after arriving there and thus couldn't split up before right but still why attack him and run off? he clearly couldn't have defended himself, they could have just yelled and asked what he was doing, and then if he didn't speak their language/respond well they could attack, I highly doubt they'd assume a child could hear them 2v1 lol, I get the confusion it's just such an over reaction to the point of making no sense imo right but still why attack him and run off? The younger guy (Let's not say his name yet) "attacked" him because he was furious to see some stranger getting too close and comfy with their worshipped idol. He didn't really think about it. As you could see, when his father came his reaction was far more mature and calmer. His son was just pissed off. You don't know how important that dog is. He ran off with him because his father ordered him to. Why? Because they've found someone in the den of kidnappers full of corpses with their Sacred Beast he clearly couldn't have defended himself, they could have just yelled and asked what he was doing, and then if he didn't speak their language/respond well they could attack He could. I mean, they can't know it but as someone who has mastered silent spell-casting he could defend himself if it came to it. Also, the younger guy really just yelled at him. He didn't harm him in any way, it's just that their voice has an ability to incapacitate their oponent. After that they (Well, the only one willing would be the father, I guess) really couldn't talk to him. my main issue is that it made him unable to talk, he should be a goldmine of information and you just silence him? doesn't check out. (and that they should have split after smelling the children beforehand) Opens the door, sees a guy touching their most important and worshipped animal, gets pissed off, screams, incapacitates the guy, kills him. Got it? And they couldn't smell a shit before because it smells like blood everywhere. They realised where the smells' coming from (where the kids are) after they reached their destination blood in the forest they just came through? sure lol but yeah this is going nowhere I don't expect a reply Guess it made more sense in there. Not sure why did they change the location like that. Nothing more I can say, I guess |
Oct 10, 2021 12:35 PM
#83
JanPri said: all the dead bodies were dragged into the forest and then set aflame by Rudeus They skipped this part, but basically corpses left alone would turn into monsters, so you always burn them if possible. The LN have proper explanations that the Anime had to cut, so there might be parts that seems unreasonable. But at least a somewhat reasonable explanation can be made from what was shown alone. |
Oct 10, 2021 12:39 PM
#84
Altter said: ???JanPri said: all the dead bodies were dragged into the forest and then set aflame by Rudeus They skipped this part, but basically corpses left alone would turn into monsters, so you always burn them if possible. The LN have proper explanations that the Anime had to cut, so there might be parts that seems unreasonable. But at least a somewhat reasonable explanation can be made from what was shown alone. Corpses left alone would start to rot and attract monsters. They wouldn't turn into monsters. This is not Grimgar lol |
Oct 10, 2021 12:42 PM
#85
JanPri said: Altter said: Yep, it's exactly as I mentioned in my post. There's so many scenes that won't make sense to people who watch only the anime, same with the Kishirika's scene from the last episode... JuwN said: In 1.49 minutes in we see Roxy see herself get patted by a big hog in armor on a table with a horse and what seems to be a young adult version of rudeus. Can someone explain that specific scene? Her old party when she just started. And we already met horse-face and pig-face before. I didn't read LN that far and nothing in anime looks confusing to me. It was obvious that it was Roxy reminiscing her past. Kishirika scene is pretty clear too. There is no complete information about her but it is completely normal because they just met her. LNs not necessarily have much more info about her at this point in the story. You just seem to be easily confused. Nikki24 said: Overall liked the episode but I hoped they explained Elinalise's curse properly since from the way it's portrayed she's just a huge slut lol And that's a spoiler. Did LN started with "on, by the way, Elinalise is cursed so don't be surprised by the following events" or it was revealed eventually? In any case, this is how anime decided to tell this story and there is nothing wrong with it. Her being a huge slut wouldn't be a problem, she is just a side character in a big story. |
Oct 10, 2021 12:42 PM
#86
Good to see elves being elves ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Roxy had some great expressions too! |
Oct 10, 2021 12:42 PM
#87
Was great to see Roxy's POV from all that was happening in the port town. She really took a run for it after she saw the Superd training with Eris. Back at their rest place she finds Elinalise having sex with a couple of (5) guys. I should have known it would have been Elinalise that Rudy heard having sex in the previous episode XD Roxy's reaction was just priceless. Roxy's describing the way she meets her first love sounds really adorable and best suited for her. I just have a difficulty understanding, is this her fantasy or a prophecy she has gotten before? Not gonna lie, Eris becoming seasick was not surprising in the least, but I freaking loved Rudy's fantasy story telling before that. So the goods Rudy had to get are some beastpeople who the smugglers captured and pretty much abused. Even though he did protect them, Rudy gotten himself into quite the big misunderstanding. Sad to see that Rudy and Roxy are going further into complete opposite directions.. Their reunion has got to wait a little longer.... Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
ShadowMonkeyOct 11, 2021 12:01 PM
Oct 10, 2021 12:43 PM
#88
JanPri said: Altter said: ???JanPri said: all the dead bodies were dragged into the forest and then set aflame by Rudeus They skipped this part, but basically corpses left alone would turn into monsters, so you always burn them if possible. The LN have proper explanations that the Anime had to cut, so there might be parts that seems unreasonable. But at least a somewhat reasonable explanation can be made from what was shown alone. Corpses left alone would start to rot and attract monsters. They wouldn't turn into monsters. This is not Grimgar lol Yep might be my mind playing trick on me then. TBH I always skim Volume 3 so might have remembered it wrong. |
Oct 10, 2021 12:49 PM
#89
Wow, this shit PISSED me the F off. Like Rijurd didn't HEAR ANYTHING? He has the senses to hear MAD far, and doesn't his eye see what beasts see? Just a stupid F'n thing to separate them. WTF. I seriously am so angry with this situation, ESPECIALLY since they SAVED the damn kids, why didn't he TALK?! Now we gotta wait a week or more to see this shit resolved. I love this show but so stupid |
Oct 10, 2021 1:05 PM
#90
DKDiabloLicht said: Wow, this shit PISSED me the F off. Like Rijurd didn't HEAR ANYTHING? He has the senses to hear MAD far, and doesn't his eye see what beasts see? Just a stupid F'n thing to separate them. WTF. I seriously am so angry with this situation, ESPECIALLY since they SAVED the damn kids, why didn't he TALK?! Now we gotta wait a week or more to see this shit resolved. I love this show hey hey, chill out and follow the advices of the Quote-kun. |
Oct 10, 2021 1:07 PM
#91
Its seems that Rudeus is in quite a bind. lmao |
Just watch anime instead of looking at forums |
Oct 10, 2021 1:07 PM
#92
Rob7 said: DKDiabloLicht said: Wow, this shit PISSED me the F off. Like Rijurd didn't HEAR ANYTHING? He has the senses to hear MAD far, and doesn't his eye see what beasts see? Just a stupid F'n thing to separate them. WTF. I seriously am so angry with this situation, ESPECIALLY since they SAVED the damn kids, why didn't he TALK?! Now we gotta wait a week or more to see this shit resolved. I love this show hey hey, chill out and follow the advices of the Quote-kun. Lol well the Capitals made me sound super angry, but I'm only irritated and just finished it. I can't wait til Twitter blows up because of the sex scene or the naked teenagers. Btw how old are they now? I know young still, hopefully we get a time skip soon. |
Oct 10, 2021 1:39 PM
#93
Oct 10, 2021 1:58 PM
#94
An interesting episode to say the least went from showing us a sex rabbid elf to ruijerd massacring a gang of child traffickers But really enjoyed the world building in this episode, showed us a more realisic view of an isekai rather than the usual care-free world we have been shown countless of times |
Oct 10, 2021 2:10 PM
#95
I hate how short the episodes feel every time. I wish it would be at least an hour long. Shit is so good, a 20+ mins episode feels like 5 mins one. |
Oct 10, 2021 2:16 PM
#96
Oct 10, 2021 2:24 PM
#97
Altter said: Yep, Ruijerd with the Chill Older Brother / Murder Machine mode. Also a little bit about Roxy's fantasy that was skipped (no, not a spoiler, but just to be sure) She actually tried dungeon diving alone in hope that scenario happen, but ended up clearing the whole thing and was invited as a court magician (before the letter scene back in cour 1) what me not understando?! |
Oct 10, 2021 2:36 PM
#98
yo someone who read the ln/manga please tell me the spoiler aobut the elf girl? someone said it isn't by choice she is a whore? |
Oct 10, 2021 2:43 PM
#99
The lack of set-up ruined the second half of the episode for me... who in their right mind thought that after the great build up of episode 12, was a good idea to leave out all the info and preparations regarding this quest. First episode of mushoku i can actually call "bad", fast paced & disappointing... at least the second half. |
tottojaOct 10, 2021 2:47 PM
Oct 10, 2021 2:50 PM
#100
That was a great episode. Loved how Studio Bind gave some additional focus of Roxy's perspectives on events in Episode 1, and give a taste of the comrades she's travelling with from the end of the first season and this one. It was a graphic episode, lots of sexual content surrounding Elinalise, gory surrounding killing of smugglers and one child having died previously, and much more. Studio Bind's going that extra length with the scenery too during these adventures and nailing the world and tone of the series as a whole. Elinalise is quite the 'fascinating' character but she's definitely a really good character as time progresses, but for now, she's painted quite a first impression in this series and boy did Bind hold nothing back. Only thing they would've done further might be in the BDs, or just have it be actual hentai lol. Also in this episode, from a LN reader's perspective who finished the series a year ago, I love the foreshadowing to stuff that happens way, way, way later on. It's the kind of thing that in the long run, makes me enjoy multiple rewatches of shows like these and re-reading of material and always feel refreshed, entertaining, or hungry to discover more details. Even seeing Rudeus for the first time implement the Beast God tongue in proper use is a nice thing, he's rusty in that compared to Demon God since he got to use Demon God a lot more after learning it throughout his adventures, but he did learn Beast God too through his own studies and help from Ghislaine so nice to see him try that out. Languages in a world like that can be such powerful tools to save people or communicate for other reasons, even in the real world (even though I'm an incompetent fuck who only knows English even though everyone else in my family knows a minimum of 4 languages lol). Overall, I have no complaints. Another amazing episode from a series I've been appreciating more, and more, and more as a whole year passed since reading the LNs and seeing season 1. Excited for episode 3 as Rudeus tries to get out of this chaotic misunderstanding. P.S: Regarding the hair thing, he had to grow it out since he was bagged the whole time during travel and once he was free, and was about to meet children to save them and not scar their memories forever, he shaved it off quickly. |
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