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Niello said: The episode score's messed up. I thought that'd be an episode with a lot more 5, are guys really that salty? This episode is remarkable, but the scores are to be expected in a site like this |
| surprised how this episode went considering how i watch this show expecting cute girls doing cute things. and only that. im relieved that narata's trauma of men is caused by an actual cause and not just "men bad men scary" thing, though that was quite uncomfortable to watch. what a shitass mom |
uncleqrow said: yeah i think the stalker dude isn't necessarily a Bad guy, him going to the dorms was definitely not the move thoNow that I watched this EP, i started to think the "stalker" dude, might actually be a good person.... Let's just see how the story develops. The ED though, I really liked it. It's like a 90s shoujo anime themes, so nostalgic. |
| wtf taichi never gets old. |
| Jeez, this show became real real quick. I definitely was not expecting anything like a backstory of any of the characters, except for maybe Watanabe, but a dark one? Damn. It turns out there's more to Ai's trauma than just a creep holding her hand. Her mom is sick for treating her like some doll and leaving her with some random guy. I also didn't expect the teacher to flat out call the shy girl fat. The entertainment industry sure is cruel, especially on young girls. Great depiction of that kind of reality. |
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| A locked bedroom door is going to stop a sexual predator, really? Ugh. 😒 |
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Blue_Maroon said: ponpokorin said: Loved that scene where Ai mowed down all the men, lol. hope no one calls me out for saying that (or have those types of guys all dropped this by now?) If you want to see a group of people killed because of their race, ethnicity, gender, sex, orientation, etc., I suggest that you go to therapy. Men kill women, abuse women, degrade women, sexually objectify women all the time and get away with it, but the minute a woman wants men to die because of all the abuse they give women, plenty of examples here with "my slave waifu" and even the "waifu concept", they suddenly need therapy? No, it is all the men that need therapy that think it's wrong to hate men. |
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| I can usually handle controversial heavy topics in media, but man this episode made me feel so uncomfortable that I had to pause a bit in between scenes. That was super well done, fantastic episode. Feel really bad for Yamada too, the entertainment industry do be like that though. Sarasa is the sunshine that is needed in the industry. Honestly think the fan is not a bad dude and is just there to apologize to her, very stalker-ish and his looks don't help lmao, but he has no bad intentions. Really looking forward to the next episode. |
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| ....well, this brought back some old memories and feelings I've subdued for many years now. Great episode, loved how they didn't hold back from portraying pedophilia and assault. |
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| Best episode so far. At least we have something happening Fu*ck the mother. What kind of mother leave her child with strange old man |
| Hell yeah I had already gotten the dark vibes from the start so here we go BOOM... |
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| damn god .. that ugly bastard need to die soon !!! |
| It's pretty understandable why Ai chooses to strafe away from Sarasa's enthusiastic personality, and that she only chooses to confide in Taichi since she hates people in general, especially men. Her direct family isn't all that better as well, but of course, all critics boil down to the actual work. Even her mom's "re-marriage" of a stepfather Seiji is nothing but trouble with the "Darker than Black" vibes of her growing-up years. It's certainly disgusting and untolerable no doubt to watch all of this drama unfold of an innocent child being raised by a stranger whom is just plain creepy. Pretty controversial, but these topics were striking with every inch so much that it was handled well. The analogy of the teddy bear resembles Ai at the very core, so that is also very apt for Taichi to provide her a safe haven. Even the Kouka Revue has strict rules to follow of its elegance, and teachers there make it all the clear if these newbie girls are to debut as stage girls. Direct to before enlisting in the Kouka Revue, Ai's time with JPX48 doesn't stop the tremor with the stalker who's been chasing her outside of the school's walls. And immediately Ai runs back to Taichi for help, but Sarasa takes the role...what will eventually be of this outcome? |
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Maverynthia said: Blue_Maroon said: If you want to see a group of people killed because of their race, ethnicity, gender, sex, orientation, etc., I suggest that you go to therapy. Men kill women, abuse women, degrade women, sexually objectify women all the time and get away with it, but the minute a woman wants men to die because of all the abuse they give women, plenty of examples here with "my slave waifu" and even the "waifu concept", they suddenly need therapy? No, it is all the men that need therapy that think it's wrong to hate men. I’m sorry that you feel this way. There are certainly people out there that do horrific things to others and some of them even escape punishment for it. However, making generalizations based on those people is very close-minded and sexist. There are so many men that do not do any of the things you listed to women, but you think it is acceptable that they should be punished because of the other people that share their same sex? What about the women that kill men, abuse men, degrade men, sexually objectify men and get away with it? Husbando culture is very prevalent in the anime community as well as well as creating gay fan-fiction around straight, male anime characters. Obviously, I am not calling for all women to be killed because of the horrible actions of some women. Hell, even in this episode Ai’s mother is shown to be a horrible person that neglects her daughter and leaves her alone for weeks at a time will a paedophile. It would be asinine to say her actions (if we accept that they are realistic for the sake of argument) are a reflection of all women’s true nature and all women should be punished as a result. This is stereotyping and isn’t something we should do to groups of people because it leads to biases and discrimination. I hope that you can see how problematic this view is and find someone to help you through any deep-seated trauma that led you to this belief. |
Blue_MaroonJul 18, 2021 1:04 PM
| That is really dark, so that's why Ai has a fear of men Just thinking what that fucking pedophile stepfather did to her makes me want to kill him and the mommy I don't know wtf did she in him nevertheless she is a shitty parent And finally that stalker really is the guy who called a "creep" by Ai, now I don't think he is a bad guy but given Ai has that awful trauma it's gonna be difficult for him to communicate with her |
RedChromeJul 18, 2021 10:54 AM
| Poor Ai. It's clear that that the stalker fan guy reminded her of her father somehow (unkempt appearance probably), maybe even had some creepy behavior during that handshake event that we haven't seen yet. No matter the guy's intentions, he was still very creepy for researching where Ai went to school and turning up there. Good for Sarasa for sticking up for her and not being obnoxious about pushing Ai to be her friend. She saw that a girl needed a hand and helped, even if that girl was standoffish to her earlier. |
| Very realistic episode touching on some topics that are important. It makes me love Ai's character even more because she reminds me exactly of someone I know in real life who experienced a very similar situation. I was expecting the tone to stay the same about the show business and slice of life-y school life vibe, but it was a pleasant surprise to see its tone shift like that. I'm hoping more people will get into this series now! |
| knew Narata was not a fan of males but didn’t think she would be a hardcore misandrist lmao, dude at the end seems chill |
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| what a sad childhood life of Narata, Ai! so that's why she's freakin' afraid of men! lolz! with an exception of her Uncle Taichi...haha 4/5. YEAH! so many DEBU's out there! just like ChouChou! LOLZ!! |
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| Seiji really is a trash. Saying things like "I can see your pants" and kissed his girlfriend's daughter?....I don't even know what else to say. A man like him should just disappear from this earth. Ah, Ai's mother... so many humans who don't deserve to be parents. Poor Ai. She doesn't know who her father is, she has to keep wearing a mask for her mother's sake, and she gets sexually assaulted by her mother's boyfriend. I'm so grateful that Taichi came. He also looks after and supports Ai. What a good man. But really... Ai was really pretty when she had long hair. Cute! She's still pretty now, but it's a little bit different when she was a little girl. Sarasa still continues to be a cheerful and kind girl. ♡ |
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| One of the worst moms in anime. That mf is disgusting af, sick ppl like that just... Still, Ai character is dumb, poor Sarasa, having to deal with that girl, also the last minutes, why you cant just talk like normal ppl? Then you wont lose minutes on run/scream/cry drama |
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| Oh shit, Naracchi backstory, worst than i thought before. No wonder she got that trauma. Oh shit, man. Here, he comes. I thought there's something more bad that stalker did in the past. Lol. But, mostly its just Ai loosen some word and calling him, her fan, a creep that instantly got herself fired too. Well, not that its her wrong. But, oh well, thats the idol industry code of conduct, right? Shit got her crazy. But i think that stalker actually just wanna do some support shit or apologize, by being the reason behind Ai quitting the idol group. But, well, that's it the cliffhanger. Left aside that intense feeling. Finally i get some picture behind Ai's habit all the time. What do you do next, Watanabe? |
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| the score for this show is quite low (i can kinda guess why) so i almost didn't pick it up but i'm so glad i did. has much darker and deeper themes than i thought it would which i'm glad to see anime cover in a serious way. kudos to the original mangaka. that part which showed ai gunning down men was hilariously unexpected but i feel her lol |
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RakuennoTsubasa said: Marinate1016 said: Grooming, sexual assault, body shaming and eating disorders holy shit I was not expecting this series to get this real. Set us up with the cutesy stuff and then introduced some very real concepts, shojo again showing why it’s the peak of the medium. I’ll never understand parents like Ai’s, tho. I can’t fathom how you could put a man over your own flesh and blood. Like your daughter is clearly afraid of your bf and you just write it off as her being a crybaby? Some mfs really don’t need kids, and it’s sad because although this is anime, there’s a lot of people who actually do this shit. It’s highly unlikely a kid is going to make up being molested, it may happen 1 in a million times, but no way would there not be some type of digging from any reasonable parent. Idk who directed the Ai childhood flashback sequence, but the animation and choreography was absolutely amazing despite the horrible subject matter. Great episode, picked up the first manga volume from the store the other day, looking forward to reading it It's not body shaming. It's job requirement. You wonldn't want to see Chris Evans / Scarlett Johansson fat on screen, would you? There are differences among body shaming, job requirement and personal preference. It’s body shaming. She wasn’t even fat, she had gained like 5 pounds. And I don’t care how they look long as they can act. |
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RakuennoTsubasa said: Gween_Gween said: Because weebs are extremely afraid of facing the reality that some women endure because they want to keep the privilege First of all, from my understanding, wokeness is about CRT(critical race theory, you can think of it as cultural marxism or racial essentialism) and social justice politics. It seems that you misunderstand what wokeness is. Gween_Gween said: ... Weebs be afraid of this level of wokeness and realness though Secondly, the story you refers to has nothing to do with wokeness. The man is a pedo and he wanted to hurt children. That's it. Thridly, the story and scene is heartbreaking (at least to me). Saying that a category of people be afraid of that seems really far-fetched to me. Fourthly, what's the definition of weeb to you anyway? the orginal meaning of weeb is that people who want to be japanese. the general meaning is people who like japanese ACGN(anime/manga, game, light novel). Fifthly, the word "privilege" you use, sounds like someone who is into the woke cult. The woke cultists says similar stuff, for example, "white people have privilege", which is racist, judges people base on their skin color, DNA, how they are born. Example of wokeness: 1. dailymail news: 'Every officer is up to speed on diversity training. Not so much ship handling': Scathing official report finds US Navy is too woke for war because of risk averse, politically correct, control-freak top brass link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9783807/Navy-disarray-focusing-diversity-training-warfighting-report-says.html or video: Navy Unprepared For War As Diversity Training Supersedes War Training Causing US SURRENDER To Iran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQUbdMRwgmI 2. Insider Leaks Critical Race Theory ‘Indoctrination’ Within Children’s Toy Manufacturer Hasbro link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwN8NFRLpo8 uhh ok i was just playing around, didnt meant to hurt you |
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| I understand Ai’s trauma but I am not liking her radical feminist “all men are trash” personality. This episode had some dark themes but it kept me engaged and on my toes, anxiously anticipating what would happen next. Looking forward to next week and (hopefully) some character development from Ai. She’s not a likable character. |
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Basiccake said: I understand Ai’s trauma but I am not liking her radical feminist “all men are trash” personality. This episode had some dark themes but it kept me engaged and on my toes, anxiously anticipating what would happen next. Looking forward to next week and (hopefully) some character development from Ai. She’s not a likable character. I think what you are missing is that this trait of her is clearly shown as something bad grown out of trauma. |
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| I think this episode and this show are both bad. Gween_Gween said: uhh ok i was just playing around, didnt meant to hurt you Do not flatter yourself. Not sure you could make the user angry in your dreams, let alone in an argument here. You on the other hand, seem in full sarcasm mode. Did something good happen?  |
sspit said: I think this episode and this show are both bad. Gween_Gween said: uhh ok i was just playing around, didnt meant to hurt you Do not flatter yourself. Not sure you could make the user angry in your dreams, let alone in an argument here. You on the other hand, seem in full sarcasm mode. Did something good happen? Well the guy went full alt right debate mode, I dont like playing with people like him in these topics because they gain visibility |
sspit said: ponpokorin said: it is nothing more than a comedic visualization of her mental state, I do find it funny, especially since I can personally relate Then I guess a sexually explicit drawing of a child is just a drawing for you too right? Because if a massacre in your mind is just a joke, then a picture is just a picture and not a CP. But you seem, no offense, more aligned with the silence is violence and muh boundaries crowd, which would position you on the other side of the spectrum: drawing of a child is a CP, punishable and all that - which would mean a harmless thought is not so harmless after all? Or are you going to say these are not the same? I'd like to hear your thoughts on this, if you dont mind. I wonder how many people would get stuck in an infinite loop in this simple conundrum. I wonder how many people are going to say, anime drawings cause child abuse by encouraging acts of evil and must be banned while saying massacres in their mind are a joyful occurrences to lighten up their day. I wonder how many people are going to say those pictures must be banned, but bona-fide pedefillic material right here in this show is a OK, because it shows it in proper, discouraging, manner. Uh oh. While I understand your point of view and partially agree, I think that it is dishonest to not distinguish the act of portraying a reality and psychological state to denounce something and encouraging it in terms of what is or not correct |
sspit said: Gween_Gween said: Well the guy went full alt right debate mode, I dont like playing with people like him in these topics because they gain visibility I dont like playing with people like you either. For completely different reason of course. Pardon my honesty, but I guess you dont mind, not after allowing yourself to exercize that right. At least you showed to everyone what kind of person you are. If you do not like someone, you will openly try to suppress that person, logic or debate be damned. You spared me an effort and made yourself look bad on your own. I wish you become more wise and open-minded in the future. Nah, but when they talk about CRT and accuse me of joining the woke cult when I was obviously just messing around some random stereotype of anime fans (Because apparently I cant use the weeb word) that hates any sort of social commentary (And that exists, but I was just generalizing for the sake of self enjoyment), then why should I try to? I don't like to supress people, but I don't play with negationism and delusion. As I said, if he didnt went full alt right I would have keep playing with him, no need to link me dailymail bullshit or youtube videos that will mess up my youtube algorithm And since I'm not from the US I can't give two shits about racial commentary, but he somehow tries to move the argument there? |
sspit said: ponpokorin said: it is nothing more than a comedic visualization of her mental state, I do find it funny, especially since I can personally relate Then I guess a sexually explicit drawing of a child is just a drawing for you too right? Because if a massacre in your mind is just a joke, then a picture is just a picture and not a CP. But you seem, no offense, more aligned with the silence is violence and muh boundaries crowd, which would position you on the other side of the spectrum: drawing of a child is a CP, punishable and all that - which would mean a harmless thought is not so harmless after all? Or are you going to say these are not the same? I'd like to hear your thoughts on this, if you dont mind. I wonder how many people would get stuck in an infinite loop in this simple conundrum. I wonder how many people are going to say, anime drawings cause child abuse by encouraging acts of evil and must be banned while saying massacres in their mind are a joyful occurrences to lighten up their day. Well like any sane person, I think lewds of kids are gross and immoral, but I really don't think that has anything to do with the topic at hand. A person could become more likely to victimize a child if they watch fictional child porn, but nobody is going to go on a man-killing rampage because they saw an anime character fantasizing about offing men who scare her. Let me clarify that I am not making the "it's just a drawing" argument. The argument I am making is that the character is imagining that situation. If an anime character actually started killing a bunch of innocent men just because they were men then I would find that morally wrong (on the character's part). But since Ai doesn't actually murder men and just uses that fantasy as a way to cope with her trauma, I think it's ridiculous of you to get so offended that you would compare it to child porn. |
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sspit said: Gween_Gween said: While I understand your point of view and partially agree, I think that it is dishonest to not distinguish the act of portraying a reality and psychological state to denounce something and encouraging it in terms of what is or not correct Well, that's a valid argument I guess, let's summarize it to 'context matters', according to which, the same picture is ok in one context and not ok in other. This seemingly benign reasoning is a favorite fallacy to flip everything on its head and open the front door to the thought police. Because it conveniently ignores the fact that this so-called context is immaterial and most of the time in the eye of the beholder and abuses that to full advantage. Just like a beautiful drawing of a naked woman may be considered a high art by an esteemed collector, it can be considered erotic material by an aroused child. We both know how goes in practice. Collector in prison and the child watching porhnub instead - crisis averted. You brought this point out nicely, because it is relevant here: A glorified exploitation by a bona-fide pedo in this show (too bad A1Pictures didnt make this, he would have red glowing eyes) is a deep realistic take on real-world issues of the evils of men. However a bitter woman wrongly accusing a man of raping her in other is an incel fantasy depicting women in bad light causing real-world discrimination by a horde of brainwashed weebs that could have stayed harmless if only certain bad author did not poison them to his (oops, I meant her) vile interpretation of all women - we all know Tatte Yuusha was written by a woman, after all. I hope you wont try to pull out the 'you are just angry because your favourite show is <insert word here>'. Anyway, enough of meandering. As I tried to demonstrate, there are valid reasons to assume that there exists a blinding double standard when it comes to interpretation, I mean, accusation of certain media and certain groups of people, and some poeple in this thread have demonstrated it poignantly. The fact that this show ravishingly entices them with completely insane antics and that they even go so far as to claim them to be comedic is worrying, just like the growing number of such shows in recent years. Then again, I suppose the wallet decides which shows succeed and which not, so let the Darwin do his thing. Though looking at the score, it may have very well already done, much to the dismay of the people in the 'why so low' rating thread. As for me, I have little time to spend on forums and shows that do not interest me and I have already seen more than I should of this show (even despite massive skipping), so I'm dropping this, of course. I have seen my fair share to only ever be interested in this show for its controversial nature (that I took notice of), which is also why I actually descended to the earthly forum realms of this site. Now I know what the buzz is about and have gotten year's worth of adventure talking here, so I can safely move on. This exchange has not been a waste of time for me, but I will not continue it any further (I will read any replies though). Sorry. Be well. There is no disagreement to do here because I agree with how the perception is matter of the holder (Like, in this case I don't see any sort of incitation to insane antics because it is clear that it is the pov of the mc, but you see it), and with such in mind I abhor the concept of censorship of media if it doesn't openly incit criminal behaviour or misinformation, or, in other words, that there is no gray scale to the intent (Like there is in hentai or entertainment, as an example). I just said that it is dishonest to reduce the context of a matter to none and do such equivalence. There are for sure morally bankrupt (Based on basic human decency) animes on their given context, but as we can both agree, the way to go forward with them is not censoring them or advocating for boycotts, because like you said, the behaviour of the masses should be the one that decides which is or not an accepted view when we are not talking about education of children or more delicate matters, because the moral is relative to the culture of the beholder. To call out, then, a person because they think that the mental imagery that this depicted is OK and the sexual drawing of a children is not OK is, in my opinion and based on what I said before, dishonest, because the context of both is vastly different and you have to do some huge mental gymnastics (That could be logical though) to make them apparently morally equal in terms of intent (Mostly because the MC of this anime is not put into much of a role-model, and, while I don't know about the mange, part of her character arc will be probably accepting men). You could've used other example (Like, Cuties? where the context of the movie provides a framework to openly sexualize children), but then the argument probably woulnd't be as strong to the replied, I guess |
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